Schmincke Akademie Christmas Set | First Impressions & Comparison with Schmincke Horadam Set of 12
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2017
- Today we're taking a first look at the Schmincke Akademie and compairing them to the Schmincke Horadam Set of 12. Have you used Akadamie? How to they stack up against different brands? Let me know if you want to see a second video comparing them to other brands and and/or a demo painting!
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3:48 Pigment Information & Comparison to Horadam
7:05 Unwrapping Pans & Palette Set Up
8:38 How to Snap in Pans
11:16 Swatching Begins
28:56 Final Thoughts
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So glad to see student lines improving in quality. Sennelier and Schminke will blow Cotman away.
One can only hope! Hahaha :D I'm glad to see the quality as well. I have the Sennelier set as well that I'll be doing soon!
In Liquid Color Wheres your sennelier la petite review? Cant seem to find it. Been 6 months. O.o
@@richieray6619 I just saw your comment while rewatching the vids. Would also love to see a sennelier la petite vs l'aquarelle comparison :)
Great comparison! It's neat to see the exact comparison between Student and Pro ranges. I wish I had had the Akademie paints when I started painting, instead of the Cotman...
And I don't regret enabling you to buy that set, if only for the tin. It's worth it ;)
Haha, yes, no worries about the enabling! I love the tin so much - Thank you! I sooooo wish I had the Akademie over Cotmans to start. They put the Cotmans to shame, and I wont stand for anyone telling me otherwise hahah.
I LOVE real time swatch videos! They’re so calming! Hope to see more of them!
Excellent video, as always, Denise! I personally prefer to hear your comments and reactions to the paint as you make the swatches, instead of a speedup, fyi. And, yes!, demo painting please!
Thanks Milena! Noted!
Sample paintings are everything for me when choosing a paint brand! I NEED to see how it works for people along with swatches and a review like you’ve done here and comparisons are Always helpful!!!
hi Denise, I am so glad you did this comparison. I have the 12 akademie set and a dozen random horidam colors so I could not to a direct comparion. I think the reasom akademie is hard to get here us becayse a long time ago grumbacher bought rights to manufacture the schminke line of oaints in the usa and they developed the grumbacher academy line of paints still sold widely in the US. grumbacher and schminke are still distributed by the same company today (chartpak) so I reckon thesy might just be the same formula (one tube and the other in pans) to appeal to different markets as the grumbacher academy is excellent too.
Oh wow! Thanks for all the additional information. That's really helpful! A viewer actually just sent me some Grumbachers as well so I'll take a look. Your review on the Akadamie was really helpful too as I remember watching it a while back, but I'll have to go back and watch it again to see if there's any other info I missed :)
Just a quick comment to keep the numbers guru's happy! Wonderful job once again! Lovely voice over as well!
This was fun to watch and I'm even more convinced that getting either of these sets would not fit my current color palette but it's fun to see them swatched out! The student set seems so nice much nicer than what I started with and a great step up toward artist quality paints ^_^
Jennifer Charlee Art I'm surprised you had time to watch it, but I totally agree that this color selection wouldn't suit you. I'm so happy you got to pick out your own colors! Can't wait to see what you can do with them
Oh my the tin is just sooo gorgeous I want it!!
Today I became a happy owner of this set. My husband is in Germany on a business meeting. The local art supplied store carries the brand as well as this particular set. Based on your video I can hardly wait to try them out. Thank you for your info. 💖
Yay! Congrats on your new set!
I'm so heartbroken that I missed out on this set! They are beautiful, thanks for the review. Now I know their student line is worth keeping an eye out for.
You can still find them on ebay, but they're quite pricey :(
I live in Denmark and I found this akademie set yesterday for about 37$ for me that’s an ok price. It also came with a no 6 round da Vinci nova synthetic brush. I really wanted to try schmincke and the box is something that will make me happy every time I see it. I loved your review and your explanation on the colors. I do have some prima sets too and an old travel set from Van Gogh but with this new set I can fill up with extra pans from other brands and lines and get a nice set I think...I might watch more reviews to see what I wanna look for when I get to the capital next time.
I'm drooling. These are so awesome and I can tell you love them too :)
Great review, thanks you.
Thanks, helped me very much! 😊
i recently got the 12 full pan set of akademie paints as a present from my mom (which i was SO excited about when i opened that amazon package aahh schmincke pans are just so beautiful) and of course immediately wanted to swatch them. since they come with a little swatch card ready to be painted on already, i thought id just use that to swatch. holy shit, schmincke do not do themselves favours by their included swatch cards lmao, the paper somehow managed to create backruns even with a tiny swatch, and layering is basically impossible on that paper. i was like "?????" when i tried it first, bc since im german, im no stranger to schmincke horadam colours and how beautiful and high quality they are, and i was confused. then i tried them on the cheap/affordable canson xl watercolor paper and they of course had no problem layering (some colors obv are more liftable than others but i mean i know the difference) and i of course got no backruns either. so yeah - whatever paper theyre using there, they should use something else cause if someone who has no clue abt watercolors uses them first time on that piece of paper, theyll think the colours are hard to work with or something.
Would love to see the same kind of video comparison between the Talens Van Gogh and the Talens Rembrandt watercolours
I don't have matching colors from those two lines unfortunately. I have a couple colors of each, but it wouldn't be a side by side like this one :(
In Liquid Color that's a shame, you always do such a great job 👍
Great review, love your channel. I have the Akadamie watercolour set I bought a few years ago cost me over $100 Australian. I’m glad it didn’t spring the extra $100 for the pro version, I’m really happy with the set I got. Schminke are great paints so hard to get here too. 😢
Oh no! I know it's hard to get supplies in Australia - I'm sorry!
I love real time swatching!!!!!
Awesome, thanks Nadine!
Thank you sooooo much! You just saved me a ton of money. 😅
After watching the video, I hunted for them and managed to buy it! (For the colorful tin of course 🙈) It just arrived in the mail today and I can’t stop looking at it lol. Thanks for the recommendation! This is going to be my travel palette! 😍
Also my palette doesn’t droop like in the video. The fold-out is level to the ground :)
Yay! Glad you found one! :)
I just ordered a 2018 Schmincke Advent Calendar from SAA for about $27 usd with 23 Akademie and 1 Horadam, no tin. I own a 24 set of Horadam already and love them but I cherish them and feel like when I get the Akademie I can use them more. Thank you for this review, I am so excited! For anyone seeing this who want the deal it was cheaper for me to buy in GDP and let my bank convert. They also have awesome Hahnemuhle 100% cotton Expression blocks for about $14usd. Shipping changes drastically with weight so play with that!
I've bought this palette after seeing this review (found it for 25 euros here in Germany) and in mine that flap doesn't droop like that.
Juliane Rogofski oh that's nice! Both of my Schmincke palettes droop so I'm glad to hear some don't.
Schminke Akademie is their Student line but color beautifully. Not available in the US because Akademie is a copyrighted word by Grumbacher, and they block any imports. Look for them in Japan, and you can find them with free shipping. Don't balk at buying these, they have a great price, and like the Video, it's hard to find any differance between both paint sets.
Thanks for the video! I was looking at them the other day. I have to find a successor to my non vegan paints.
I'd love a sample painting to get to know them better :)
sample paints (aka dot paints) you can get from Schmincke site I believe. If not search around for free Dot card Schmincke
p.s im vegan
Yes! There are few dot cards available from Schminkce.
This examination reminds me of my experience with Prismacolor Scholar (student grade) and Prismacolor Premiere (artist grade). I was annoyed to find out their are essentially the same pencils and I got the same results from each. It seems the Scholars are marketed to students with less fancy packaging. It makes me wonder if that's a similar case with the Schmincke paints, as well? It's hard to say without using them and getting the tactile feel, but based on watching you lay down the paint and the color representation, there is only a slight difference, that to many, I'm sure, wouldn't be severely noticeable. In a blind taste-test, I would know which was which! lol! Wonderful presentation and the camera angle was helpful! Cheers! :)
Thanks Mark! it is super disappointing to hear about all the cases of student grade materials being the same product but rebranded. In this case, I think the Christmas tin was even better than the black one haha, but overall Akadamie do feel less pigmented, thought the difference is definitely slightly. I had fun with the puffin for patrons, and look forward to painting with them more!
I use Horadam and Akademie regularly and the main difference I notice is how the Horadam rewet much more easily and I also have the impression that I am using up the Akademie ones much faster because Schmincke has this fancy way of filling up their artist's grade pans which they don't use for the student line... Akademie are definitely very good paints but not the same as Schmincke's artist grade paints.
Akademie swatches are nice but they don't perform well in mixes.
they dont perform well in mixes? i dont believe that. because its not true
M.D. Campbell The difference will also be lightfast ratings - more fillers in student grade paints affects lightfast ratings so while colours may look similar, in reality they are less pigmented. I have the both prismacolour and the scholar, they are not the same imho, the scholar have more filler and are not as pigmented or creamy.
Bought myself their Akademie set (12 colors in a mini case) off eBay recently for around $40. Bought it from someone in Columbus, OH! Sadly the winter store is impeding their time to come to me at the moment.
I will mix my paints at some point mix some akademie etc but at the mo im comfortable with my 48 set.
Hello there! My neighbour recently gave me a schmincke set of 12 full pans, which she use to use about 10 years ago. How do i tell if its akademie or horadam?
Part 2!
This was exactly the video I needed, thank you so much :)
So glad it was helpful!
I looked it up and they are so incredibly avaliable here in Germany. I could find them in the next not even big town and in my area it's very hard to get any bigger selection of art supplies, so chances that you can find a specific brand in your local art store aren't big.
Hello Anna!
Is there any chance you could buy it and send them to me if I send you the money first? Please? I would love to buy it! 😱
@@CarolinaJovenich right now it's honestly pretty difficult to get anything because any store that doesn't sell food got closed so that includes the two local art stores, so not in this weird time
@@wa11ie of course!
We are in a horrible time right now. Maybe when all of this passes. Thank you for your quick response! Please stay safe and healthy!
You can find these and Van Gogh easily at Michaels and Blick Art Supplies!
I love the hue of Schmincke´s prussian blue! The only problem is that the pan is really flakey and hard to rewet! Does anyone else have this problem?
I have a mix of artist and student grade watercolor paints in my palette, most of them are Van Gogh, but some artist-grade paints are worthy on their own, and I think Van Gogh's student quality to be mostly sufficient to be mixed with the artist grade ones, I have few colors from Rembrandt, Daniel Smith, and Holbein, and I don't think I need any more artist-grade colors that I'm satisfied having the Van Gogh version of. In the case of manufacturers selling high quality student paints, I think they're just 'great' manufacturing companies, sans few special colors. 😂
I agree, these Schmincke in particular knock it out of the park for student quality, and the Van Gogh is right there with them.
Nice review, but I like D.S. better than either of these! I'm also concerned about Ivory Black - do you know what Lamp Black is made of? Curious even though I don't use black.
Sharon Nolfi from my understanding, lamp black is made from the soot (carbon?) from lamps. Think if you put a piece of glass over a candle flame and the black that gathers on it.
Do you notice a difference in quality between the meeden tins vs the schmincke tins?
Quality, I don't think so. There are a few general differences though. The one I mentioned in the video about the orientation of the clips, the smaller wells on the Meeden are larger and more useful for me, and the side with the smaller wells sits parallel to the surface on the Meeden without drooping. Overall, I actually prefer the functionality of the Meeden for those reasons, but I couldn't resist such a cute tin :D
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I love watching your first impressions and comparison videos!!! I have to say that I actually prefer their academie set to the hordam set. I’m surprised at the amount of single pigment colors in their student grade set. I am definitely going to do some internet searching to try and buy the academie set!! Bit bummed I probably won’t find it in that tin though... that tin is amaze balls!!!! TFS.... ((((HUGS)))) Kimmie 😘🎄
Thanks Kimmie! I was really impressed with the single pigments too, and the lightfastness ratings! Really remarkable. I hope you can find a set!
I just bought the 12 set of their Horadam range and I got such a gat deal that I’m worried it really is the student grade. Is there a way to l he different based on the individual half pans? Are there identifying words on the half pans?
The pans should say Akademie or Horadam on them. The first is student grade the latter is professional.
Real time swatchin is the bestttt
The only thing i can say is that if your looking at vegan watercolor, schmincke is a line to avoid. While I prefer them I do always let people know. Not just due to ivory black but also the oxgall.
A second quick note. You can fix the drooping flap by using a pin to push the wire out grab the end take it out and fully separate the flap from the box. Take the wire and gently bend it 10 or 15 degrees then push it back in lining the flaps back up. That will add the tension back and push the flap up.
The Akademie line is vegan. Only the Horadam professional line uses oxgall.
Hi. In my country horadam is very expensive. Im using van gogh and i would like to have new watercolor.
Do you think white nights and akademi is the same? (Or akademi much better than white nights)
Ooor should i wait and save money for horadam. I’ll really be happy if you can give me advice.
Thank you sooo much
Hi there. I think Van Gogh and Akademi are very similar. White Nights has a different texture to them but is a similar quality as well. If you have access to Roman Szmal, I recommend them for affordable, professional quality paint. Between the other three, I would go with whichever is most affordable and/or has the colors you want!
@@InLiquidColor thank you soooo much 🤩
Camera Shake: Is there a nearby table you could clamp the microphone and camera to and then cantilever the camera over to your work area so you don't have to purchase a separate wall mount? This would obviously depend on how far the camera and microphone boom reach for you.
Thanks Morgan, unforunately there isn't. I work in a VERY small space and I don't have anything that I can attach it too, which is why I'm looking into wall mounts :)
Oh bummer. Don't suppose the edge of your window sill is large enough to clamp it to then either. Oh well. I'm sure you'll work something out. (if you're a DIY sort then I feel like that this would be a project for the PVC tubing aisle at Home Depot, or maybe that's just my desire to make something out of all the bits and bobs in that aisle talking...) :-P
Clueless Morgan my window is really odd here and goes down to a few inches from the floor and lacks a window sill at all. Oh the joys of apartment life. My tentative plan was to get a piece of wood and drill a wall mount camera holder (like for security cameras) into that, then attach it to the wall somehow. I do remember seeing the pvc stands a while back though. I'll see if I can find a video on that again.
I bought this set a few weeks ago at wetpaintart.com for $75! Very excited!
Have you gotten them yet?
I wanted that limited edition christmas tin so much, but I didn't want another set of student grade paints ),:
I hear you! I was only convinced because I make these reviews for all of you, and the tin was a bonus since it's so unique. But it is hard to justify buying student grade paints!
Wet Paint, a US art supply store, had a small number of a custom Schmincke Horadam (artist quality) set in this tin as of two weeks ago. 😎
Just keep in mind that none of the Horadam watercolors are vegan: they use a wetting agent derived from cows.
I don't really see a difference between those two sets. For my eyes Horadam's colours look better and dry more soft and smooth.
Where to purchase this tin?
It no longer available unless you can find it on eBay or similar sites.
You can purchase it on this Swedish site: www.penstore.com/schmincke/akademie-aquarelle-limited-edition-12-set , but the shipping can be really expensive, depending on which country you want it delivered.
£36 on amazon co uk, 2 left :P im a Haradam person myself
Oh awesome! It does look like there are several sets over there! Though sadly it does look like they don't ship to the US for the US viewers wondering.
ya most likely >< well if the UK comes out of the EU, i'm gonna find it hard to get hold of paints and other stuff from EU sites. Might have lots of tax import as well..grr
tyvm for the video's you do btw :)
Ugh!!
*That’s a fancy tin.*
I would buy less colors just the basic sorta primary colors in the professional artists colors. You will be more happy than having 25+ tubes of cheap colors. In order to sell academic sets for students beginners, obviously it has less pigment. They can’t do it any other way.
They probably have less because they don’t want to “discredit” the name rep. which is for high pigment colors for professionals. That said, their student grades are probably better than many off brand what they call their top shelf paints period.
I just think it’s better to start with the primaries, look to mix colors and then begin to add in the special colors that you can’t make up or colors you use a lot and don’t want to keep making up and trying to match. For sure whites would be like that but also the mineral types, the granulating or some of the other delicious colors.
Anyone who has a grandma with lots of deviled egg plates, ask if she like to give up the one she really doesn’t care for, or go to the goodwill store where you will find them, if not other thrift, consignment, or antique shops. They are never expensive unless you pick a really nice one. But they have the big open area in the middle where pickles etc go and then the egg half sections to put your paint. They are perfect for watercolors.
14:36 you pronounced it "arsch" and that means butt in German😂
Horror dam 😂
As much as I love Schmincke paints, their sets don’t do them justice. The selection of colors is bad in every way. In the Horadam line have a more interesting strongly granulating ultramarine, a prettier ochre with a redder undertone, more interesting neutral yellows, there is no burnt umber, useless sepia and blacks, no true magenta. It’s just a very limiting color selection, while with 12 colors you can combine something much more versatile.
I totally agree that the selection does a disservice to their gorgeous offerings!
I think they want you to add the colors you like more to fill the whole tin up tu 24 colors. Good marketing trick... Buying a cute tin like this half full you sure be tempted to add more!
@@esinfa I don’t think it’s a bout marketing, this set is supposed to be “traditional” and kind of cater to everyone. But as it usually is, trying to please everybody you please no one.