@Gar Or "denial of service" attacks on the enemy pilots by bombarding them with threats to arrest them for not paying their taxes. It's hard to dogfight when your out buying gift cards to pay off your "warrant." :)
@Ruturaj Shiralkar We are making fun of all the phone scammers (mostly from India or Pakistan) who call US households with ridiculous scams like that "they are Tech Support and something's wrong with your computer" or "I'm from the IRS and there's a warrant for your arrest. You need to go buy me these gift cards to pay off your warrant or else." There are reaching epidemic proportions in the USA.
Same here, even if it tends to be overshadowed by later Sukhois on the tree. I used the Su-37 to finish the campaign, and the TLS turned out to be quite useful against certain particularly annoying targets. Good luck dodging LIGHT, Mihaly!
The SU-37, SU-47 and SU-57 are the most beautiful aircraft ever... but its 2020, high observable dogfighters can get AIM9'ed from 100miles away. Lockheed didn't steal the YAK33 design. Lockheed paid 430 million to further develop YAK-141 and the X-35. Theres no controversy between the two companies. Ethically sound and morally dubious business at its best.
Another great video! I learned something new. Here's a video suggestion, the Saab 35 Draken! When jets at the time looked like the Mig-21 and the English Electric Lightning, Saab came up with this double delta winged beauty that wouldn't look out of place alongside today's fighters. It was the first jet ever capable of doing the cobra maneuver. Saab Viggen and Grippen are great planes too, a video on Swedish jets would be really cool!
Not sure if you haven't seen it but I mention the Draken in the F-16XL video: ua-cam.com/video/6l3Ixa_WmSg/v-deo.html I do plan on a series of the Swedish fighters, they have some innovative designs and need to be talked about. Thanks for commenting!
Im a Flanker fan and love all its offsprings, especially to 30 and 34. I never knew about to asymetrical thrust vect. The influencial legacy of the Yak 141 is very intetsting. Excellent information as always👍🏾
The Berkhut would stand a chance at being produced if a practical approach to an articulating wing could be devised. It is a striking presence in the air to say the least. With respect to the Sukhoi line of thrust vector capable aircraft, while there is an inherent problem with severe energy bleed off during radical maneuvers, a highly focused program aimed toward using the 360 degree vectoring capability in specific scenarios coupled with extensive training could yield remarkable results. Great video!
Indeed - ultimately it comes down to materials research and composites I think. Maybe in the next decade that problem can be solved. Thanks for commenting!
@@kresnik_ss thats actually an interesting thought... from BFM to BVR and back to BFM. While the technology evolves, the practical combat seems to go backwards
Mikoyan-Gurevich once tested a rocket-powered interceptor called the I-270. Killed test pilots like the Me 163 and was outdated once SAM tech came through, but for 1946 it was an interesting concept.
Great video as always. I was surprised by the cancellation of the Su-37. Up until now I honestly thought it was in service. One plane you missed out - the Mig-31 Firefox :-P
Thanks for commenting and your continued support! I really thought about giving the Firefox and honorable mention but A) its a fictional airplane and B) most people would think it’s a browser 🤣
The real MiG-31 'Foxhound' is a Mach 2.8 capable heavy interceptor that when developed was SUPER advanced - it pioneered target-data sharing where one plane could 'paint' a target and another launch the missile. It was developed in the Soviet era to cover the northern airspace - a flight of 4 could control an almost 1000km wide area of airspace. Today it has been further developed to allow its use as the launch platform for the Kinzhal (dagger) Hypersonic missile. (Also Su-37 lives on in the current Su-30SM and Su-35S)
@@boffinboy100 All true. The MiG-31 is an amazing aircraft. It was built to intercept the SR-71 Blackbird - which it did. But the title of this video is about fighters the the Russians should have built. It didn't specify whether they were real or not. When they saw the movie of Firefox, I think they should have built the Firefox. :-) Otherwise the title of this video should be 'Top 5 fighters the Russians started to build, and maybe built a prototype but foolishly did not follow through with mass production' XD
another few from Lavochkin - the La200, La250 Anakonda and the La-15 .. La200 looked like a beast to say the least - Twin engines ..but looked like it only had one .. interesting concept though ..
the Yakolev 141 utilizes the same Convair 1960's 3DSN patents as the F-35 ... that's why Lockheed choose to finance the protptipes ... to easilly get performance data out of a funcioning airframe. They owned the patents for the system already ... no need to copy the copycat. :)
Great video. I really enjoy the footage you select. I was kicking myself after your last Top 5 shoulda been video.....I said add the TSR.2 and YF-12. I cant believe I forgot what should have been tied for #1 on my list (along with the YF-23)......the mighty Vought XF8U-3. The B-70 also deserves a place. Great stuff keep it coming.
Thank you much appreciated! I plan a video all about the F-8 series and will include the Super Crusader for sure. Also plan a dedicated video on the B-70 and A-12...stay tuned!
Since you've knocked out a lot of the 4th gen what-could-have-been airframes, perhaps you could explore the myriad designs that emerged immediately post WWII and the beginning of the Cold War Era. This period saw rapid adaptation of jet technology, as well as the ensuing slew of design challenges designers had to overcome and many aviators paid a high price for that knowledge to mature. For example, outside of raw velocity, many early jets would be danced around by the mature prop designs. There were some crazy shapes and designs on those early jets. 50s aesthetics taken to the extreme. Keeping to more modern 4th/5th gen birds, perhaps an overview of how essentially, the Chinese air fleets adapted soviet designs (by hook or by crook), and innovated upon those base platforms to develop their own native designs, such as that J20. India, Israel, and Japan likewise went through their processes of native vs. purhased tech developing their air forces, and came up with their own native products or interesting variants/derivatives. Another interesting branch could be how the OPEC nations essentially purchase any bit of leading edge tech as soon as its available on the market; case in point, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates' air fleets. I'm seeing a lot of Ace Combat comments on here... and yeah, it's interesting to see the proliferation of essentially one-off or theoretical Russian birds vs the in-production US counters in the video game industry. If we are talking experimental birds, then dammit I want to see the Tigershark, F16XL, and F15 Active more. When Eurofighter and J-20 are arguably the most modern competitors in bulk numbers, its crazy how far ahead F-22 and F-35 are. Sorry, Su-57 lovers... 10 developmental airframes and ONE serial production airframe ain't enough to constitute much of a production run; if you lump all of them together, you get one squadron, and I bet half of those wouldn't have all the avionics installed to make them combat ready, being test birds and demonstrators. The backbone of the Russian Bloc air forces are still the venerable Mig-29 & Su-27/35 (and its derivatives). Even then, expect India to be the main operator of any future Sukhoi innovations. Its been pointed out in other comments, but yes, it is interesting how worldwide, the design evolution of 4.5 gen fighters have leaned towards twin-engined, canard-featuring, delta (blended tailplane) designs with the Rafale, Typhoon, the aborted 1.44, etc. Europe, Russia, and USA have all discarded variable wing geometry, at least, on a large scale that featured so heavily in the Tornado, Flogger, Fencer, Tomcat, Aardvark, etc. That 1.44 had a really streamlined, lifting body, style of fuselage, and yeah, you can directly overlay its planform over the J20 and see the similarities. Kinda funny how Kfir and Viggen unlocked the key way back in the day, and those concepts are now the apogee of conventional (non-stealth) fighter design.
The su37 IS being built, its called the SU35S, it has all the su37 thrust vectoring and avionics, and the su30 just started as a 2 seater su27, the versions youre talking about are just derivatives of su30
@@jebise1126 yes a lift fan is less heavy than a lift jet, BUT and this is the point you are missing it still takes up useful volume, approximately the same the same volume as a lift jet. Volume that could be used to extend range or carry a gun with ammunition or extra sensors.
@@jebise1126 Yes, the lift fan is much lighter than a jet engine, even with the gearbox included. It also creates a cold air flow that is far safer for the main engine intakes to ingest. Hot air from a lift-jet exhaust can cause major thrust loss when ingested by the main engine intake. All thing's considered, F-35B is a very smart design.
@PilotPhotog Thanks for another great video mate. I am fascinated with Cold War Era planes and technology and how far ahead of their times they were. Personally I think it is time we should revisit some of these designs, but anyway keep up the good work mate
I love this channel as i'm interest in military especially fighter jet. When i read down the comments section the honest reply from you makes my heart melt 😇😇 love it👍
Flatpack is actually the codename for the prototype, Poject 1.44; the codename given to the final product (Project 1.42) was Foxglove. It's like the difference between the YF-22 Lighting and the F-22 Raptor: they're very similar but still distinctly different planes.
Russian aviation will always produce some of the best aircraft you could never imagine. Anyone who believes that Russia builds bad aircraft isn’t really smart. The Mig15-17, Mig21,Mig 25-31 and Mig29 and many SU flankers are all excellent aircraft.
Let's get this guy more subs. Can you imagine the production value? It's already fantastic, mostly because of Juan, and the way it's pieces together.. it's great. But with more subs means higher production value, getting paid well for his time, and we'll have the best aeroplane channel on YT.
A l9ng while back, I was able to get my hands on a die-cast miniature of the SU-37 Terminator. Such a cool aircraft. The SU-30SM wasn't the only aircraft to be built using technology from SU-37. The SU-34 Fullback also uses canard air surfaces and thrust vectoring technology.
Please note the lift jet + 3bsd design was already proposed by Convair in the 1960s in their Convair Model 200 VTOL delta wing design proposal. Anyone here claiming that the Yak 141 was copied by Lockheed, please research what the Convair model 200 was
A few corrections. Su-37, by the time of its crash, was no longer Su-37, but became Su-35 once again. Originally it was a standard Su-27M/Su-35 and had been upgraded to interest Russian Air Force and foreign militaries. At the time noone bought it for different reasons. As a result Tail 711 had been returned to original specification with the whole mission avionic suite and TVC engines replaced with older originals. Later on Su-35BM program started which was going to completely rebuild the whole set of Su-35 fighters built to date. Airframe was going to be extensively upgraded with composites and zero-timed, engines replaced, electrical systems replaced wholesale together with avionic suite. Essentially bringing them into 21st century and surpassing everything apart from F-22 it was a much more ambitious program. Russian Air Force went a whole step further and ordered not an upgrade of existing Su-35s, but full-rate production of brand-new Su-35BM-spec fighters, today known as Su-35S. Su-30MK that became Su-30MKI was made at the similar time to Su-35. It took time to modify, integrate and fix avionic teething problems thanks to the Indian demand for western and Israeli systems. So it did exist even prior to Indian interest, just in a slightly different spec. Su47, AKA S-37 started life not based on Su-27, but as a whole separate project, built as a carrier fighter project. Entire airframe is different, while there is use of some parts to speed up the development. It was not going to even be a gen-5 as it is known today. When USSR was dissolved, the need for the new carrier fighter (the role of which was adopted by Su-33) was gone, but there was a need for PR, and the S-37 prototype became it. Media and some figures called it a gen-5 prototype, hype caught on and the rest is history.
Very nice - Iike how I see some of my suggestions :-). There are some very good books out there about cancelled soviet projects; fascinating ideas and designs that never were alas. The Su-35S and Su-30SM would be considered the 'successors' to the Su-37 - they both use the concepts pioneered and have 3D TVC engines to name a few (SM means Serial, Modernised - the suffices of Soviet/Russian equipment matter a lot as, for example, a T-80U is a very different machine with advanced characteristics compared to the original T-80). To that end, quite a few technologies from the 1.44 were put into the MiG-35 series, although with the nature of Russian aerospace companies all under UAC, concepts are shared where mandated (so Sukhoi research could be given to MiG). We moving onto bombers and/or other nations now? I know Britain has a plethora of designs that never were but alas I don't know that much about them.
Thanks for commenting and the suggestions in previous comments. I agree that the SU-35S and SU-30SM could be considered successors to the SU-37. Up next in the series are European fighters, and eventually bombers.
Nice introducing of this video with clearly explaining of each aircraft of past USSR and Russian today..which arenot any one of them reaching 5 generation +level .
Suggestion: Do a top (US) flying wing or cranked-kite aircraft list. Even just counting those in service, the number approaches 10. Many are fascinating/surprising: is the B2-sized RQ-180 really super-cruise capable, as is generally supposed?
I like this idea, can you evaluate what a cranked kite is? Is that like a double delta wing? If you can give examples I am happy to start researching. Thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog The X-47B is a good example. If you think of how the F-16XL cheats out of the delta towards the rear, it's like that but applied to a kite shape. X-47A is more of a normal kite for comparison.
Top 5 European Fighters That Should Have Been Built: --ALR Piranha (Switzerland) --SOKO Novi Avion (Yugoslavia) --IAR 95 (Romania) --Dassault Mirage G (France) --VFW VAK 191B (Germany)
My mom said if you don’t have something nice to say don’t say anything at all so I didn’t speak for 8 years. These are my 3 favorite aviation books: - Scream of Eagles by Robert Wilcox - A-10 Warthog Illustrated by Lou Drendel - Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
@@PilotPhotog whelp I've been noticed, rest of you scrubs can make like the Black Widow.... And fail before me due to politics and politicians being required to make choices on stuff they know little about
I’d add another aircraft to the list that, while not designed as a fighter, definitely could’ve been converted into something like one: the Sukhoi T-4. Basically, this was the Soviets’ belated response to the XB-70, and like the XB-70 was a mach 3-capable bomber. The project was cancelled under unknown circumstances before testing was completed, but had it been completed... Seeing as it was supposed to be capable of reaching Mach 3 with a 9-ton payload, I could see this being loaded up with as many air-to-air missiles as it could carry and being deployed as an interceptor of sorts, flying combat air patrols at the edges of Soviet airspace waiting for NATO bombers to be detected, then letting loose a salvo of dozens of missiles into the incoming formation. Coincidentally, the T-4 does have a passing resemblance to the fictional MiG-31 “Firefox” from the film adaptation of the book “Firefox” (not to be confused with the ACTUAL MiG-31, codenamed “Foxhound”)
regardless of the ideology of the soviets, they made some badass sexy planes, that whole cobra styling where the cockpit sleeks back into the fuselage is stunning, the MiG-29's lines are still spectacular
The Turks have the latest F4 ( Phantom) version called " Terminator" though.. Well maybe 6th gen US plane F24?? with that name, and Air Wolf helicopters😁
I really like the design approaches the russian engineers took. Using a successful design and improving it seems like a more logical choice than to always start from scratch. MiG-29 to MiG-35, Su-27 to Su-37 ...
Look at that yak 141 especially Head on it looks so much like a mig 31 and even from the side it's not far off must of been designed by someone from the mig 31 design department 😉
The SU-47 is my favorite of this list. It was shown at a Russian air show that really made me take notice of the out of the box thinking that had been taking place over there. I admit I still don't really understand the forward swept wing design & why that was chosen for this cool plane- its maneuverability & performance was outstanding & looked "cool"- lol
SORRY. you shorten stuff here a bit too much. so... planes with 2 nozzle and 2-dimensional thrust vectoring also have "asymmetrical(as you call it)" thrust vectoring and can mannouvre in two dimensions(roll and pitch). So most importantly only russian aircraft have the ability to controll jaw by vectoring aswell. Maybe you got axisymmetrical nozzles(wich meand round nozzle) and 2D nozzles (wich mean anything bot a perfectly round circle as nozzle) mixed up with the possible dimensions of movement you gain by applying TV to a plane (wich can reach from 1 up to 3 Pitch/Roll/Jaw)?
Thanks for commenting - the SU-37's exhaust nozzles were capable of rotating 360 degrees and moving independent of each other, hence the term asymmetrical thrust vectoring. By comparison the F-22's exhaust nozzles pivot in two dimensions up and down only, so the reference is to the range of motion for both systems.
@@PilotPhotog Hi there! thanks for the fast response. So yeah, i get what you mean... but the nozzles on f22 can indeed move independently, one up one down to enhance rolling. wouldnt that be asymmetrical movement ?
You can say whatever you want about the russians, but you have to admit that they really take huge risks, Sukhoi managed to develop two very expensive prototype aircrafts (Su-37 and Su-47) with an economical crisis over the 90's. Despite never been build on mass production, it's thanks to those models that now we have the Su-35S, Su-30 SM and the Su-57. I feel kind of bad for Mikoyan, that Mig-1.44 could have been one badass multi-role aircraft, like Typhoon on steroids xD instead we have the chinese version...
Thanks for commenting and agreed, you have to admire the scientists, engineers, designers, and pilots who produced these airplanes as their government was collapsing and transforming itself.
Wow, never knew the Su-37 Terminator was only an experimental plane. That said, it's a shame the Berkut was not mass-produced. Seeing a squadron of those would be epic.
Two great videos. Now do British fighters that should have been built. TSR.2 would easily make the top 5 obviously but the list is way longer than 5 should, woulda, coulda's. The SR.177 has to be my favourite story, killed by Lockheed's bribery.
@Beverly Mandahl kamov and mil just mergered to form the biggest helicopter producer in the world. Not because either was bad, in fact they were already the two best. They just want to combine efforts at a national level. I expect the aircraft corporations to merge as well, they would benefit from it more. I wouldn't doubt mig anyway, the last air kill I can think of is by a mig 21 on an f16. If you're talking costs, you can't get any cheaper than that.
Didn’t the canards and thrust vectoring nozzles make there way onto the su-30 platform that Russia has sold to foreign countries. I’m pretty sure Malaysian su-30’s have the canards and thrust vectoring nozzles.
Well, there is this aircraft which went by the name of MiG-33, known as the MiG-29M before that. It's a little complicated, but, in the late '80s, MiG-29 went under serious modernization program, giving it FBW, much more capable multi mode radar as well as fire control system which altogether gave it much better capabilities as multirole fighter, using A-A as well as guided A-G weapons. It was designated as MiG-29M, and soon after, the MiG-33. However, the collapse of the USSR and we all know how that story goes, it all grinded to a halt. About a decade later, technology from that aircraft was incorporated in the MiG-29 and redesignated as the MiG-29SM or SMT. Interestingly enough, further development gave creation of another plane designated as MiG-29M and it's two seater version MiG-29M2, only this MiG-29M by now was much more advanced than the original MiG-29M or as they called it a little bit later - MiG-33. Anyhow, that was also further modernized only much more than before, and it gave us the ultimate MiG-35.
With modern combat jets focusing on better radar, better missiles, and beyond visual range capability, what is the benefit of thrust vectoring? It's counterintuitive to me
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@@giovannibuenafe996 lol
7:32 It's crazy how similar the Eurofighter would end up looking more than 20 years later.
Yeah.....I saw that too.
Meanwhile in Ace Combat: "yeah our airforce just has 300 of them"
300 is an understatement 💀💀💀
@@aceofaces1506 genuinely.
The MKI in Su-30 MKI stands for "Modernizirovannyi, Kommercheskiy, Indiski" meaning, which roughly translates to Modernized, Commercial, Indian.
Thank you I did not know that, much appreciated!
@Gar Or "denial of service" attacks on the enemy pilots by bombarding them with threats to arrest them for not paying their taxes. It's hard to dogfight when your out buying gift cards to pay off your "warrant." :)
Modernizovani Karavelniy Istrebitel
Modernized Naval Fighter !!!!!
@Ruturaj Shiralkar We are making fun of all the phone scammers (mostly from India or Pakistan) who call US households with ridiculous scams like that "they are Tech Support and something's wrong with your computer" or "I'm from the IRS and there's a warrant for your arrest. You need to go buy me these gift cards to pay off your warrant or else." There are reaching epidemic proportions in the USA.
@@sashejaneski6501 Really? Then try to explain MKI(A), MKK and MKM
The Su-37 is one of my favorite fighters in Ace Combat 7.
Same here.
Thanks for commenting- I’m looking at streaming AC7 on twitch
One of the best looking aircrafts of all time
Same here, even if it tends to be overshadowed by later Sukhois on the tree. I used the Su-37 to finish the campaign, and the TLS turned out to be quite useful against certain particularly annoying targets. Good luck dodging LIGHT, Mihaly!
@@PilotPhotog You should do a video on the various fighters from Ace Combat.
The SU-37, SU-47 and SU-57 are the most beautiful aircraft ever... but its 2020, high observable dogfighters can get AIM9'ed from 100miles away.
Lockheed didn't steal the YAK33 design. Lockheed paid 430 million to further develop YAK-141 and the X-35. Theres no controversy between the two companies. Ethically sound and morally dubious business at its best.
Aim9? Thats a sidewinder mate, which wont hit anything near 100 miles away.
@@nemanja162 F-35B can also carry AMRAAM as well.
BVR missles made dogfights obsolete
@@damirderek8827 electronic counter measures should change that
And what about hypersonic missles are they harder to counter than regular ones
Another great video! I learned something new. Here's a video suggestion, the Saab 35 Draken! When jets at the time looked like the Mig-21 and the English Electric Lightning, Saab came up with this double delta winged beauty that wouldn't look out of place alongside today's fighters. It was the first jet ever capable of doing the cobra maneuver. Saab Viggen and Grippen are great planes too, a video on Swedish jets would be really cool!
The Draken went into service and was a very successful design .. this series is about jets that NEVER went into service
Not sure if you haven't seen it but I mention the Draken in the F-16XL video: ua-cam.com/video/6l3Ixa_WmSg/v-deo.html I do plan on a series of the Swedish fighters, they have some innovative designs and need to be talked about. Thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog oh really? Forgot you mentioned it in the video, guess I'll have to watch it again :D And looking forward to your new videos!
The su47 is a nice looking jet but the mig144 also look good to
Agreed and thanks for commenting!
Fun fact: China purchased the blueprints of the Mig 144 and created the J-20.
That it is.
they're both cool concepts
Im a Flanker fan and love all its offsprings, especially to 30 and 34. I never knew about to asymetrical thrust vect. The influencial legacy of the Yak 141 is very intetsting. Excellent information as always👍🏾
Thank you very much! The Flanker is a formidable platform and has been incredibly successful.
The Flanker family is awesome.
i love the Su-47 but the Yak-141 would be cool cause it looks like a V-TOL MiG-31 which i like
Thanks for commenting
Waited for it :D Nice man, as always!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it and more to come!
1.44 was my choice also. I kept thinking where is the 1.44. YES SIR, you rock. Awesome video and channel!
Awesome! Thank you! Glad you liked the video.
That was a really good video!
The forward swept wings design is fascinating!
Glad you liked it!
The Berkhut would stand a chance at being produced if a practical approach to an articulating wing could be devised. It is a striking presence in the air to say the least. With respect to the Sukhoi line of thrust vector capable aircraft, while there is an inherent problem with severe energy bleed off during radical maneuvers, a highly focused program aimed toward using the 360 degree vectoring capability in specific scenarios coupled with extensive training could yield remarkable results. Great video!
Indeed - ultimately it comes down to materials research and composites I think. Maybe in the next decade that problem can be solved. Thanks for commenting!
The SU-47 is my all time favorite aircraft. It looks so cool. Maybe in 100 years when materials are stronger they can mass produce them easier...
It is a great looking machine, thanks for commenting!
@@kresnik_ss thats actually an interesting thought... from BFM to BVR and back to BFM. While the technology evolves, the practical combat seems to go backwards
Mikoyan-Gurevich once tested a rocket-powered interceptor called the I-270. Killed test pilots like the Me 163 and was outdated once SAM tech came through, but for 1946 it was an interesting concept.
Fascinating - and dangerous - thanks for sharing I did not know about that.
Gracias Jetman ! Cool series... keep blasting off.
honorable mentions:
-Yak201 , basically the russian F-35B
-Mikoyan LMFS, If the money allowed.
That was the Yak 141, hope this helped!
Great video as always. I was surprised by the cancellation of the Su-37. Up until now I honestly thought it was in service.
One plane you missed out - the Mig-31 Firefox :-P
Thanks for commenting and your continued support! I really thought about giving the Firefox and honorable mention but A) its a fictional airplane and B) most people would think it’s a browser 🤣
The real MiG-31 'Foxhound' is a Mach 2.8 capable heavy interceptor that when developed was SUPER advanced - it pioneered target-data sharing where one plane could 'paint' a target and another launch the missile. It was developed in the Soviet era to cover the northern airspace - a flight of 4 could control an almost 1000km wide area of airspace. Today it has been further developed to allow its use as the launch platform for the Kinzhal (dagger) Hypersonic missile.
(Also Su-37 lives on in the current Su-30SM and Su-35S)
@@boffinboy100 All true. The MiG-31 is an amazing aircraft. It was built to intercept the SR-71 Blackbird - which it did.
But the title of this video is about fighters the the Russians should have built. It didn't specify whether they were real or not. When they saw the movie of Firefox, I think they should have built the Firefox. :-)
Otherwise the title of this video should be 'Top 5 fighters the Russians started to build, and maybe built a prototype but foolishly did not follow through with mass production' XD
Same for me. I always assumed it was Russia's premier fighter. For me, I blame Ace combat.
@@f.wallace8969 I blame the plane's beauty XD
Awesome video keep up the good work
Thanks! Will do!
another few from Lavochkin - the La200, La250 Anakonda and the La-15 .. La200 looked like a beast to say the least - Twin engines ..but looked like it only had one .. interesting concept though ..
I'd like to also add that the Yak-141 project was not bought out by Lockheed till 2006, by which time the X-35B prototype had already been made
Excellent point and thanks for commenting!
the Yakolev 141 utilizes the same Convair 1960's 3DSN patents as the F-35 ... that's why Lockheed choose to finance the protptipes ... to easilly get performance data out of a funcioning airframe.
They owned the patents for the system already ... no need to copy the copycat. :)
@@smparreira Also Convair was already absorbed by Lockheed so
@@F22raptor46 ... I had already said that on another tread 🤔
@@smparreira oh yeah lol
Great pictures as always. 2 seat Yak-38 trainer actually on a carrier deck!
Indeed and thanks for commenting!
Great video. I really enjoy the footage you select.
I was kicking myself after your last Top 5 shoulda been video.....I said add the TSR.2 and YF-12. I cant believe I forgot what should have been tied for #1 on my list (along with the YF-23)......the mighty Vought XF8U-3. The B-70 also deserves a place.
Great stuff keep it coming.
Thank you much appreciated! I plan a video all about the F-8 series and will include the Super Crusader for sure. Also plan a dedicated video on the B-70 and A-12...stay tuned!
@PilotPhotog, it's not the Mark 1 Sukhoi 30. MKI stands for "Modernizirovannyy Kommercheskiy Indiyskiy"
Indeed as I have discovered via the comments, thank you for clarifying much appreciated.
Since you've knocked out a lot of the 4th gen what-could-have-been airframes, perhaps you could explore the myriad designs that emerged immediately post WWII and the beginning of the Cold War Era.
This period saw rapid adaptation of jet technology, as well as the ensuing slew of design challenges designers had to overcome and many aviators paid a high price for that knowledge to mature. For example, outside of raw velocity, many early jets would be danced around by the mature prop designs. There were some crazy shapes and designs on those early jets. 50s aesthetics taken to the extreme.
Keeping to more modern 4th/5th gen birds, perhaps an overview of how essentially, the Chinese air fleets adapted soviet designs (by hook or by crook), and innovated upon those base platforms to develop their own native designs, such as that J20.
India, Israel, and Japan likewise went through their processes of native vs. purhased tech developing their air forces, and came up with their own native products or interesting variants/derivatives.
Another interesting branch could be how the OPEC nations essentially purchase any bit of leading edge tech as soon as its available on the market; case in point, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates' air fleets.
I'm seeing a lot of Ace Combat comments on here... and yeah, it's interesting to see the proliferation of essentially one-off or theoretical Russian birds vs the in-production US counters in the video game industry. If we are talking experimental birds, then dammit I want to see the Tigershark, F16XL, and F15 Active more. When Eurofighter and J-20 are arguably the most modern competitors in bulk numbers, its crazy how far ahead F-22 and F-35 are.
Sorry, Su-57 lovers... 10 developmental airframes and ONE serial production airframe ain't enough to constitute much of a production run; if you lump all of them together, you get one squadron, and I bet half of those wouldn't have all the avionics installed to make them combat ready, being test birds and demonstrators. The backbone of the Russian Bloc air forces are still the venerable Mig-29 & Su-27/35 (and its derivatives). Even then, expect India to be the main operator of any future Sukhoi innovations.
Its been pointed out in other comments, but yes, it is interesting how worldwide, the design evolution of 4.5 gen fighters have leaned towards twin-engined, canard-featuring, delta (blended tailplane) designs with the Rafale, Typhoon, the aborted 1.44, etc. Europe, Russia, and USA have all discarded variable wing geometry, at least, on a large scale that featured so heavily in the Tornado, Flogger, Fencer, Tomcat, Aardvark, etc. That 1.44 had a really streamlined, lifting body, style of fuselage, and yeah, you can directly overlay its planform over the J20 and see the similarities. Kinda funny how Kfir and Viggen unlocked the key way back in the day, and those concepts are now the apogee of conventional (non-stealth) fighter design.
This channel is very informative..love it!
Glad you think so!
Could do a top ten or top five Chinese (PLAAF) fighters that should’ve went in service or just Top 5/10 in general
Indeed, I plan on doing these per region/country...thanks for commenting and for being a subscriber!
@@PilotPhotog Hell yes the Chinese MiG and SU copies!
impressed with your knowledge and interest in fighter breeds.
Highly informative and beautifully presented fighter concepts , good voice , keep it up
these are really good...thank you...enjoyed the watch
One more: attack aircraft Sh-90 (shturmovik 90-x), ш-90 from Sukhoi to replace the Su-25.
An excellent candidate and I may do an all ground attack airplanes list. Thanks for commenting!
The su37 IS being built, its called the SU35S, it has all the su37 thrust vectoring and avionics, and the su30 just started as a 2 seater su27, the versions youre talking about are just derivatives of su30
It does not use the Irbis-E radar as SU-35. The computers might also be different
Super nice video about Soviet ,Russian aircrafts with clearly explaining of characters and countries which interests...thanks
Thank you and thanks for all of the comments!
Instead of dead weight it's dead space. The lift-fan concept dates back to the early days of V/STOL, see the Ryan XV-5.
@@jebise1126 dead SPACE not dead WEIGHT. This means internal volume that cannot be used for fuel, weaponry or avionics.
@@jebise1126 yes a lift fan is less heavy than a lift jet, BUT and this is the point you are missing it still takes up useful volume, approximately the same the same volume as a lift jet. Volume that could be used to extend range or carry a gun with ammunition or extra sensors.
@@jebise1126 Yes, the lift fan is much lighter than a jet engine, even with the gearbox included. It also creates a cold air flow that is far safer for the main engine intakes to ingest. Hot air from a lift-jet exhaust can cause major thrust loss when ingested by the main engine intake.
All thing's considered, F-35B is a very smart design.
@PilotPhotog Thanks for another great video mate. I am fascinated with Cold War Era planes and technology and how far ahead of their times they were. Personally I think it is time we should revisit some of these designs, but anyway keep up the good work mate
Thank you so much and will do! BTW I’ve visited Australia - beautiful country and amazing people!
@@PilotPhotog Cool mate glad you liked it
I love this channel as i'm interest in military especially fighter jet. When i read down the comments section the honest reply from you makes my heart melt 😇😇 love it👍
That 141 looks so much like the J-20.
Indeed and thanks for commenting!
141? Yak-141? What?
Only to the uninitiated :D
You should look at Ye-150,Ye-151,Ye-152 I think their basically bigger interceptor versions of the MiG-21
All 5 are great, but it can be top 6, because mig 29ovt was also good testing platform.
Flatpack is actually the codename for the prototype, Poject 1.44; the codename given to the final product (Project 1.42) was Foxglove.
It's like the difference between the YF-22 Lighting and the F-22 Raptor: they're very similar but still distinctly different planes.
did not realize that, thanks for commenting!
Information might be scarce, but are there any plans for currently in service Migs or a series of videos on the Su-27 Flanker family?
Russian aviation will always produce some of the best aircraft you could never imagine. Anyone who believes that Russia builds bad aircraft isn’t really smart. The Mig15-17, Mig21,Mig 25-31 and Mig29 and many SU flankers are all excellent aircraft.
Good interesting content, thumb up
Glad you enjoyed it
I grew up with the Ace Combat 4, 5 and Zero which I knew most of these super planes are prototypes and had unique characteristics on each own designs.
Thanks for commenting - AC4 and 5 were great but Zero is my favorite in the series.
Let's get this guy more subs. Can you imagine the production value? It's already fantastic, mostly because of Juan, and the way it's pieces together.. it's great. But with more subs means higher production value, getting paid well for his time, and we'll have the best aeroplane channel on YT.
A l9ng while back, I was able to get my hands on a die-cast miniature of the SU-37 Terminator. Such a cool aircraft. The SU-30SM wasn't the only aircraft to be built using technology from SU-37. The SU-34 Fullback also uses canard air surfaces and thrust vectoring technology.
Please note the lift jet + 3bsd design was already proposed by Convair in the 1960s in their Convair Model 200 VTOL delta wing design proposal.
Anyone here claiming that the Yak 141 was copied by Lockheed, please research what the Convair model 200 was
Excellent point and thanks for commenting
A few corrections.
Su-37, by the time of its crash, was no longer Su-37, but became Su-35 once again. Originally it was a standard Su-27M/Su-35 and had been upgraded to interest Russian Air Force and foreign militaries. At the time noone bought it for different reasons. As a result Tail 711 had been returned to original specification with the whole mission avionic suite and TVC engines replaced with older originals. Later on Su-35BM program started which was going to completely rebuild the whole set of Su-35 fighters built to date. Airframe was going to be extensively upgraded with composites and zero-timed, engines replaced, electrical systems replaced wholesale together with avionic suite. Essentially bringing them into 21st century and surpassing everything apart from F-22 it was a much more ambitious program. Russian Air Force went a whole step further and ordered not an upgrade of existing Su-35s, but full-rate production of brand-new Su-35BM-spec fighters, today known as Su-35S.
Su-30MK that became Su-30MKI was made at the similar time to Su-35. It took time to modify, integrate and fix avionic teething problems thanks to the Indian demand for western and Israeli systems. So it did exist even prior to Indian interest, just in a slightly different spec.
Su47, AKA S-37 started life not based on Su-27, but as a whole separate project, built as a carrier fighter project. Entire airframe is different, while there is use of some parts to speed up the development. It was not going to even be a gen-5 as it is known today. When USSR was dissolved, the need for the new carrier fighter (the role of which was adopted by Su-33) was gone, but there was a need for PR, and the S-37 prototype became it. Media and some figures called it a gen-5 prototype, hype caught on and the rest is history.
Is there a video about entry level jets like trainer aircrafts.👌
Too nice video ...thanks for sending..with clear explaining of characters ot Russian-Soviet aircrafts..
Great list. I would have given an honourable mention to the La-15, which was apparently better than the MiG-15 but was more expensive to make.
Good point!
@@PilotPhotog Probably a good thing since the La-15 may have proved better than the F-86 Sabre.
Why NATO uses the names that starts only with F?
Vm Vm F is for fighter. B is bomber like TU-95 is Bear and Tu-160 is Blackjack
@@MeanLaQueefa H for helicopters, Hind for Mi-24, Havoc for Mi-28
Pao Gene I know
NATO picks names starting with F for russian fighters, uses names starting with B for bombers.
And C for Soviet Cargo Plane like : Il 76 Candid
Very nice - Iike how I see some of my suggestions :-). There are some very good books out there about cancelled soviet projects; fascinating ideas and designs that never were alas.
The Su-35S and Su-30SM would be considered the 'successors' to the Su-37 - they both use the concepts pioneered and have 3D TVC engines to name a few (SM means Serial, Modernised - the suffices of Soviet/Russian equipment matter a lot as, for example, a T-80U is a very different machine with advanced characteristics compared to the original T-80). To that end, quite a few technologies from the 1.44 were put into the MiG-35 series, although with the nature of Russian aerospace companies all under UAC, concepts are shared where mandated (so Sukhoi research could be given to MiG).
We moving onto bombers and/or other nations now? I know Britain has a plethora of designs that never were but alas I don't know that much about them.
Thanks for commenting and the suggestions in previous comments. I agree that the SU-35S and SU-30SM could be considered successors to the SU-37. Up next in the series are European fighters, and eventually bombers.
Nice introducing of this video with clearly explaining of each aircraft of past USSR and Russian today..which arenot any one of them reaching 5 generation +level .
Glad you liked it!
@@PilotPhotog thanks with pleasure
Suggestion: Do a top (US) flying wing or cranked-kite aircraft list. Even just counting those in service, the number approaches 10. Many are fascinating/surprising: is the B2-sized RQ-180 really super-cruise capable, as is generally supposed?
I like this idea, can you evaluate what a cranked kite is? Is that like a double delta wing? If you can give examples I am happy to start researching. Thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog The X-47B is a good example. If you think of how the F-16XL cheats out of the delta towards the rear, it's like that but applied to a kite shape. X-47A is more of a normal kite for comparison.
Cool let's see them all
Really nice analysis 👍 There is so much crap about aviation on UA-cam, it feels as relief to watch your channel. Thank you 🍾🥂
Top 5 European Fighters That Should Have Been Built:
--ALR Piranha (Switzerland)
--SOKO Novi Avion (Yugoslavia)
--IAR 95 (Romania)
--Dassault Mirage G (France)
--VFW VAK 191B (Germany)
My mom said if you don’t have something nice to say don’t say anything at all so I didn’t speak for 8 years.
These are my 3 favorite aviation books:
- Scream of Eagles by Robert Wilcox
- A-10 Warthog Illustrated by Lou Drendel
- Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
Was that ejection above Mach 2 the fastest survived ejection?
As far as I know yes. Thanks for commenting
Its awesome to bleed off velocity faster than any adversary.
PE!
Learned more chemistry, history, and geography in six mins than a whole year of 9th grade
While Yak 38 follwing BAE Harrier design, Yak 141/Yak 41 followed by F 35 😁
I’m and old Marine that was assigned to a Hawk Battery, it would have been difficult to lock on to that Su37 hot rod. Beautiful plane, wow.
Russian weapons and lack of funding is a better love story than Twilight.
I laughed so hard at this...and you are correct!
I waited till I watched the last one to like it, it was so good I liked this one before the ad was skippable on mobile
Thank you much appreciated!
@@PilotPhotog whelp I've been noticed, rest of you scrubs can make like the Black Widow.... And fail before me due to politics and politicians being required to make choices on stuff they know little about
I’d add another aircraft to the list that, while not designed as a fighter, definitely could’ve been converted into something like one: the Sukhoi T-4. Basically, this was the Soviets’ belated response to the XB-70, and like the XB-70 was a mach 3-capable bomber. The project was cancelled under unknown circumstances before testing was completed, but had it been completed...
Seeing as it was supposed to be capable of reaching Mach 3 with a 9-ton payload, I could see this being loaded up with as many air-to-air missiles as it could carry and being deployed as an interceptor of sorts, flying combat air patrols at the edges of Soviet airspace waiting for NATO bombers to be detected, then letting loose a salvo of dozens of missiles into the incoming formation.
Coincidentally, the T-4 does have a passing resemblance to the fictional MiG-31 “Firefox” from the film adaptation of the book “Firefox” (not to be confused with the ACTUAL MiG-31, codenamed “Foxhound”)
regardless of the ideology of the soviets, they made some badass sexy planes, that whole cobra styling where the cockpit sleeks back into the fuselage is stunning, the MiG-29's lines are still spectacular
The SU-37 is like an areal ballet dancer.
It really is and thanks for commenting!
The Terminator should have been built, just because of the name!!!
Agreed and thanks for commenting!
It lives on in the Su 30 MKI and MKK varients
The Turks have the latest F4 ( Phantom) version called " Terminator" though.. Well maybe 6th gen US plane F24?? with that name, and Air Wolf helicopters😁
@@xamanikia13 and also MKM and MKA
I really like the design approaches the russian engineers took. Using a successful design and improving it seems like a more logical choice than to always start from scratch. MiG-29 to MiG-35, Su-27 to Su-37 ...
Look at that yak 141 especially Head on it looks so much like a mig 31 and even from the side it's not far off must of been designed by someone from the mig 31
design department 😉
Nice vid, but didnt the Su-37 eventually became the su-35? ( minus the TVC)
Thanks for commenting; yes the SU-37 spawned or helped develop both the SU-30 and SU-35
Su-35 has TVC but no canards
@2:05 Does that mean 8 missiles are released at the same damn time or are they staggered?
The SU-47 is my favorite of this list. It was shown at a Russian air show that really made me take notice of the out of the box thinking that had been taking place over there. I admit I still don't really understand the forward swept wing design & why that was chosen for this cool plane- its maneuverability & performance was outstanding & looked "cool"- lol
MiG YE-8? More like "MiG-YEET!"
I'm kind of surprised you didn't pick the Ye-8. Refinements to that promising design would have led to a far better fighter than the eventual MiG-23.
These are all from about the same time, did the su37 really warrant inclusion for thrust vectoring? Some good choices from as early as ww2
Ye-8 looks a lot like the JF-17. Both derived from the MiG-21, but JF-17 didn’t go with canards.
Ye-8 looks alot like J10
SORRY. you shorten stuff here a bit too much. so... planes with 2 nozzle and 2-dimensional thrust vectoring also have "asymmetrical(as you call it)" thrust vectoring and can mannouvre in two dimensions(roll and pitch). So most importantly only russian aircraft have the ability to controll jaw by vectoring aswell. Maybe you got axisymmetrical nozzles(wich meand round nozzle) and 2D nozzles (wich mean anything bot a perfectly round circle as nozzle) mixed up with the possible dimensions of movement you gain by applying TV to a plane (wich can reach from 1 up to 3 Pitch/Roll/Jaw)?
Thanks for commenting - the SU-37's exhaust nozzles were capable of rotating 360 degrees and moving independent of each other, hence the term asymmetrical thrust vectoring. By comparison the F-22's exhaust nozzles pivot in two dimensions up and down only, so the reference is to the range of motion for both systems.
@@PilotPhotog Hi there! thanks for the fast response. So yeah, i get what you mean... but the nozzles on f22 can indeed move independently, one up one down to enhance rolling. wouldnt that be asymmetrical movement ?
The F35b didn't borrow from the Yak for its design, that design was paid for in a formal partnership, it's not borrowed, it was bought.
You can say whatever you want about the russians, but you have to admit that they really take huge risks, Sukhoi managed to develop two very expensive prototype aircrafts (Su-37 and Su-47) with an economical crisis over the 90's. Despite never been build on mass production, it's thanks to those models that now we have the Su-35S, Su-30 SM and the Su-57.
I feel kind of bad for Mikoyan, that Mig-1.44 could have been one badass multi-role aircraft, like Typhoon on steroids xD instead we have the chinese version...
Thanks for commenting and agreed, you have to admire the scientists, engineers, designers, and pilots who produced these airplanes as their government was collapsing and transforming itself.
Wow, never knew the Su-37 Terminator was only an experimental plane. That said, it's a shame the Berkut was not mass-produced. Seeing a squadron of those would be epic.
Two great videos. Now do British fighters that should have been built. TSR.2 would easily make the top 5 obviously but the list is way longer than 5 should, woulda, coulda's. The SR.177 has to be my favourite story, killed by Lockheed's bribery.
I can’t believe nobody is buying MiG-35... that’s a pretty amazing aircraft
@Beverly Mandahl kamov and mil just mergered to form the biggest helicopter producer in the world. Not because either was bad, in fact they were already the two best. They just want to combine efforts at a national level. I expect the aircraft corporations to merge as well, they would benefit from it more.
I wouldn't doubt mig anyway, the last air kill I can think of is by a mig 21 on an f16. If you're talking costs, you can't get any cheaper than that.
@N.W. Jonkhart care to name any besides suikoi
It's obviously American political pressure
Beverly Mandahl Gripens are cheap
Didn’t the canards and thrust vectoring nozzles make there way onto the su-30 platform that Russia has sold to foreign countries. I’m pretty sure Malaysian su-30’s have the canards and thrust vectoring nozzles.
Harrier jump jet was lagend
Oh, I remember this, a buddy of mine sent a few minute clip in an email to me,,,,,,> SO MUCH MORE than the F-22.
Well, there is this aircraft which went by the name of MiG-33, known as the MiG-29M before that. It's a little complicated, but, in the late '80s, MiG-29 went under serious modernization program, giving it FBW, much more capable multi mode radar as well as fire control system which altogether gave it much better capabilities as multirole fighter, using A-A as well as guided A-G weapons. It was designated as MiG-29M, and soon after, the MiG-33. However, the collapse of the USSR and we all know how that story goes, it all grinded to a halt. About a decade later, technology from that aircraft was incorporated in the MiG-29 and redesignated as the MiG-29SM or SMT. Interestingly enough, further development gave creation of another plane designated as MiG-29M and it's two seater version MiG-29M2, only this MiG-29M by now was much more advanced than the original MiG-29M or as they called it a little bit later - MiG-33. Anyhow, that was also further modernized only much more than before, and it gave us the ultimate MiG-35.
Wonderfully stated and thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog At your service :)
The Su-37 is technically being built, the design morphed into the Su-35S
Great point and thanks for commenting!
What about the hypersonic MiG-31 Firefox prototype that Clint Eastwood stole?
Should have given it an honorable mention - thanks for commenting!
I wonder how much technology Yakovlev received from Line X free of charge? LOL!
Good video.
The chinese absolutely copied the 144 with Berkuit flair (asymmetrical tail booms and style). Awesome vid. Love your content!
How possibly could you leave out the MIG--29 OVT??
Great video👍🏻
I think Russian fighters are so mysterious
I think so too, thanks for commenting and for your continued support!
The YE8 looks a lot like the Eurofighter Typhoon to me! Or rather the Typhoon looks like the YE8.
I can’t unsee that now lol. Thanks for commenting!
PilotPhotog thanks for the excellent videos!
MiG 29ovt
The Yak 141 lives on in the F35. the US bought 4 and modified the technology for the new plane.
With modern combat jets focusing on better radar, better missiles, and beyond visual range capability, what is the benefit of thrust vectoring? It's counterintuitive to me
The Chinese j-20 might be inspired by the mig-144?!? NOOOOO! You're crazy. That's crazy talk. They don't look ANYTHING alike whatsoever.