Love this! I ride in FL heavy traffic training, pace lines, group rides, etc. Most of my cycling buddies have varias, but I’ve always even afraid if I got one, I’d become too dependent on it. There are many situations where our bike lanes end and we must take the lane. Turning around and waving/ communicating with motorists behind a group is crucial. Also, when pulling off the front of a pace line it signals to the riders behind that you’re about to make a move! Subscribed, keep up the great content Mitch!
Garmin Varia radar just lets you know a car is behind you and I won’t ride without it. The eyeglass or helmet mounted mirror lets you know if they’ve moved over.
It only shows things if they are closing with you. If a car paces you for a while waiting for a spot to pass, it will think they are gone. The first time that happened to me, when I shoulder checked and there was a car RIGHT THERE I flinched so hard I almost hit the curb.
@@benbencom This is why the radar should always be complimented with a mirror. Have both and would never hand them back even for a £1m. Been cycling for over 40 years and drivers rarely understand why you are looking back (eye contact). I've had dangerous passes using both methods, and it makes very little difference in the new age of 'I need to drive quick it's my road'.
I’m 70 and have back and neck issues. 10 years ago I could look back but now I can’t. I just bought a mirror and find it works reasonably well. I cycle quiet roads and avoid busy traffic.
I think that most drivers will notice you turning your head and this is an indication of intention. Another good practice is to use hand signals!! I tried helmet mirrors in the past but I found this very distracting. Always remember, you're a small vehicle on the road: be patient, your life is on the line. Some people are not nice, this is just life. If you feel unsafe, get off the road and find a safe path.
I grew up in Washington, DC, and I can ride in traffic and never use mirrors. I advise riders to use all their senses, sight, sound, etc. Never ever wear earbuds on the road. It is really easy to get fooled by the image in a mirror. One critical thing you should have mentioned was establishing eye contact with as many drivers as possible, especially those turning right on red. It is also frequently possible to make eye contact with drivers' mirrors. If you are going to ride in traffic, turning your head is mandatory, in addition to the ability to sprint and understand the flow of the traffic lights.
I've used earbuds for over a decade now. Never had a problem. I ride defensively, look back frequently, even when I'm not turning, communicate with drivers to show intentions, etc. I can still hear traffic coming up behind me.
Like it or not, the issue with earbuds is that you are giving a portion of your brain's processing to the music. If you are just tooling along, listening to Taylor Swift, and thinking about which post-ride IPA you will have, the mirror on your handlebar will do zero for you when that a-hat in the pickup truck turns you into road mush.
@@Shadowboost Tried earbuds once and was snuck upon by a white bmw as I was turning my head to look back. I could not believe how close the car got to me without me feeling a thing. Overconfidence is dangerous in this regard I think. I only use open-ear bone conduction ear piece on off-road only rides now. Just my 2c.😅
No one suggested a mirror should replace turning the head 😅. Turn your head, use a mirror on the handlebar and and if you like the Radar and you are set 😁. Just keep in mind that the radar can fail too if you are unlucky, hehe. Cheers from Switzerland's Mountain region with way less cars but some steep Hills and Motorcycles :P
You mention something that not enough people talk about. I discovered this years ago, and I teach it to cyclists. I use a mirror, and I can see very well. It's 90% reliable, so I know I might look and not see anything and then find that I'm wrong. But it's still useful for me. I 100% agree that turning my head to give a signal is the most important thing. I will have a car passing me, and the driver won't know that I know he is there. I turn my head to let him know. I don't turn my head to see as I already know he's there. Not only that, I turn my head TWICE. This redundancy makes the signal clearer. I've been told by cyclists behind me that I'm extremely clear to everyone else on the road. I make a lot of signals with my head. It's a skill, and it takes practice. Do the practice, and build the skill! I rarely use hand signals because I believe my head signals are as clear or clearer.
For me helmet mirror is best really close. Because it looks less nerdy? Yes, but also the field of vision is better. I can turn my head and scan the situation behind, while having the other eye watching ahead. I like the take-a-look mirror. Largeish, rectangular, sits just under my helmet visor. Hand signals and making eye contact are important too.
I have used a helmet mirror for about 40 years. (you have yours set way too far forward for me) They are great. I still turn my head and look some, but I don't have to. Mine is flat. Scan and you'll see it all. Get in the habit of using it and you'll always depend on it
Yes! Very important to use a small flat mirror very close to your head. The field of view grows when it's a lot the closer to your eye and the eye stays focused for distance, a much better option than a big floppy mirror.
This advice is very important with vehicles being quieter than in the past, and many drivers on cellphones. Those of us survivors who started riding before radar and decent mirrors will look back, and being over 70 with shoulder/neck injuries, I practice shoulder drop lookback before taking a bottle regardless of circumstance.
I use a mirror all the time. HOWEVER, bike mirrors, just like cars have BLIND SPOTS. I still need to look over my shoulder because I’m an older cyclist. I have avoided many dangerous situations because I LOOKED.
Always looking back, when you’re riding in an urban environment, you just have to be super aware of everything and always pay attention. And I completely agree that when you look back it does let the driver know you’re aware of them and they will feel more comfortable passing you, instead of cautiously following behind because they’re not sure if you know they’re there.
There can always be an argument against any solution e.g. one could argue that the mirror blocks some of your forward vision. Bottom line (as you said)... there are various options, and people just need to find what works for them. If it's a mirror, great. If it's a safe turn of the head, great. If it's a radar, great. Whatever it is, if it's legal and it keeps you and other roads users / pedestrians safe, great.
I am excited to start using your techniques today to correct weaving out of my lane when I turn my head. Using mirrors only assist and should never replace turning to see who is hanging in the blind spot no matter driving or cycling. Never trust motorists to turn their heads to look for you. When merging I also use hand signals right or left with a friendly wave to cooperative motorists. Like Mr. Cyclingskills says Eye contact. Very good content.
I ride a MTB, often in traffic and always with pedestrians or other bikes etc in front/behind. I use two mirrors on my bars, both underneath - basically like a motorcycle. They are great and I could never confidently ride without them in traffic - imagine taking your mirrors off of your car! That said, your tip the last time for looking back without swerving has been really great - I use it when my mirrors are fogged up or when I'm in situation which requires quick confidence and looking back is faster/safer than trying to focus on the mirror. I think people forget that even with cameras and mirrors on our vehicles, we still physically look over our shoulders.
I bike with a mirror, but I also turn my head as the verification check. The mirror lets me know what is around me. It gives me an ongoing watch of traffic behind me. I don’t rely on the mirror as my only look before moving. I must turn my head before moving. Thanks for the video.
I got a little goggles-mount mirror a few years back, and I don't know why I ever rode without it. However, if I need to cross traffic lanes, I still look over my shoulder. It's the same as checking your blind spot before a lane change when driving. When your life is on the line, check twice.
My daily commuter has a straight bar with a pretty big mirror on the left side. It works great but I still never go from right to left without a good shoulder check. Comes from years on a motorcycle where the stakes are much bigger. Love the advice you give to use everything that is available to you.
In the last 50 years I have bicycled 40,000 miles and driven a half million miles in cities, towns and rural areas in many states. It is important to be able to turn your head to look back, but I do not like to bike without a mirror. I have tried several mirrors but a $25. Take A Look bike mirror clipped on my glasses works best for me. I ride on a lot of city streets and rural roads. I use a Garmin Varia RTL 510 radar taillight with my Garmin bike computer. It is worth having, but it does not replace my mirror. The 510 will tell me if one or more vehicles are approaching behind me, but it does not tell me which lane they are in or what type of vehicle. I need to tilt my head a bit to see what is behind me in my mirror, but I can see what vehicles are in each lane and if a vehicle is signaling a turn. The 510 alerts me to the speed and distance of vehicles - if I I have not looked in my mirror for a while, if a vehicle is just around a curve or just over a hill behind me. The 510 is also helpful along with my mirror when I want to change lanes or when the sun is low enough to be shining directly in my mirror. I never assume any driver or pedestrian sees me and I never assume which way they are going. If I have the right of way I don’t assume a driver will comply. I pump my arm in the direction I am turning to increase the visibility of my hand signals. A helmet, bright clothing and a flashing day and night headlight and taillight (like the 510) are great safety essentials. I have used Cycliq front and rear cameras the last few years which ma show who is at fault in a crash.
I recently converted from a handlebar mirror to a flat helmet mirror. I like it much better. A slight twist of the neck and you can see pretty much everything going on behind you. I use it mostly for general awareness. I like to know what is coming up behind me and if a car is about to buzz me a little too closely. Cars are getting quieter and I have slight hearing loss, so I really like the extra security I get from it. Now, for getting across a lane or two to make a left turn....I will turn my head completely to look behind me. I want to be 100% sure before I jut out into a lane of traffic.
Excellent video. I have 2 handlebar convex mirrors and they make SUCH a difference. Very useful for quick glance do maintain situational awareness. Cant ride without them. However I still look back before crossing. The key here is to treat the mirrors as **just ONE of the links in a safety chain**. So use the mirrors to get a quick pic of whats behind, if it shows no cars then turn heard to check and then cross. Never cross after using ONLY mirror! And most of all as the video said if in any doubt or you're not confident of head turn - STOP. Just stop. Look. Cross. Happy biking global biking friends!
Thanks for adding the part about communication! Turning the head tells drivers that we know they are they and will not do anything unpredictable but expect the same respect! Keep your head on a swivel or stick to stationary bike
I have been using a handlebar mirror for a couple of years. It's a flat mirror as the convex are crap. But about a year ago I added the radar and now use both. The really do compliment each other, particularly as I live in a rural area where the roads are 80km/h and 100km/h zones.
Great point near the end: Get whatever helps you stay alive. And I would add something to what you said: decent cyclists usually make much better drivers. They’re used to seeing everything around them that’s a threat, while motorists are in a cocoon.
The mirror should be located in the upper left of your vision, such that it doesn't block your view of what is ahead. Not all helmet mirrors provide the adjustment for this, though.
@@SkyhawkSteve I thought I had seen the mirrors somewhat in that position. But I was thinking about when you are riding In an aggressive position with your head forward and downward with your eyes upward....could that one little mirror be In just the right spot to block your vision at just the perfect moment to cause a bad accident? It only takes a fraction of a second for it to happen....
I have a Suunto radar which I purchased about 9 months ago. It works very well as you mention for the Garmin radar. I also ride with a Shokz Openrun headset paired by bluetooth to the phone. This allows the radar warning tone to be audible even in a high noise environment. I liked the tips you gave in the previous video for turning your head because I still need to check on my riding partners whereabouts before blowing a buger.
I’m with you, I turn around to check on traffic, but I use hand signals to let the drivers know that I’m intending to move to my right or left. And yes I too have a mirror at the end of the drop downs.
I don't have a mirror at the moment, but I do miss it. The main purpose of a mirror for me is that if you can see a car coming you don't have to bother to turn to look - however, I never use/used it as absolute confirmation that the road is clear. So, my process was typically - check mirror - if I can see a car it's not clear, so no need to turn to check - once car passes, check mirror again - if it looks clear in the mirror, turn to look to confirm if it really is clear.
I've used a mirror for years, but I found your advice on how to look over your shoulder very helpful. Even with a mirror there are times when I feel the need to look over should.
I ride with Cycliq FLY6 and FLY12 camera/lights (which I love) and I also use a small mirror attached to my glasses. It gives me peace of mind when I’m riding on the road-which is invaluable. The ability to glance up and take note of the conditions behind allows me to position myself and be ready before it happens. Of course I always turn my head and give hand directions before making any moves. Really, it comes down to what works for you. If you’re comfortable without a mirror and keeping your head on a swivel, cool. But you’re right, it takes time to get used to a mirror and learn how to get it positioned properly.
I use a wrist mirror for years now, for me it's the best choice, works very well, doesn't make me dizzy and it's reaaly easy to just close. I neve used a radar, but I would if it wasn't so expensive in my country. Still, I always look back to be certain. Thanks for your videos, they're awesome and don't have the "bike snob" approach, after all 'go ride your bike should be the first message ever' kkkkkkk
For me personally I like the mirror, while it takes a while to get use to it. I wouldn't ride without one. Also I have a blinkie light on my helmet & behind my rear set post, which makes a huge difference on riding on the road. Of course looking back to make sure before making a turn is a must. That's usually the only time I turn my head, but then I ride on very, very low traffic country roads , which makes riding enjoyable after riding in & around the city for many years.
I was using helmet mirrors 45 years ago, mostly home made ones. There were times when I was road racing and the other riders behind me were amazed that I could cross over to the center to make a turn without looking back, it was also great to keep an eye on riders about to jump past me.
I've used mirrors on my drop bars for 50 years and I've never looked back 🤪 If I ride a bike without a mirror, I don't feel as safe. You wouldn't drive a car or ride a motorcycle without mirrors. I feel the same with bicycle mirrors. I heard of a cyclist who crashed into a stationary truck and died after he turned his head to look behind 😢
I turn and look when I can but I like a mirror for situational awareness. I used to use a handlebar mounted mirror but I found that when riding on really rough surfaces it bounces so much that it is useless. I now use a Bike Peddler Take a L👀K mirror that mounts on my eyeglasses and I love it. I may have to look into a radar someday, though.
I use a rubber band to assist holding my helmet mounted mirror. It goes from the mirror arm thru a helmet cooling hole and back to the mirror arm. It keeps the mirror in place and greatly reduces vibrations giving me a clear picture of the road behind me before I make a left turn. I also stay keenly alert for the sounds of an oncoming vehicle. These have kept me safe for many years.
I've used a zefal z-eye bike helmet mirror for 15 years. Similar to the black one on your hat. Not perfect - especially with adverse lighting - low sun from behind etc. The convex mirror is much better. You can scan behind by turning your head side to side and see huge area. I always give a quick glance back when I think it is clear according to mirror just to make sure. The head mirror follows your head movement and little / no vibration compared to handle bar mirror.
Well, you've got a point of view. Personally I've been using handlebar mirrors for many many years and they give me a good awareness of what's going on around me. Mirrycle in my case. A bell is another essential.
Rear-view mirror for bicycling is as essential as a rear-view mirror for driving. Once you start using it, you realize how handicapped you were without it. The best rear-view mirrors are helmet-mounted, close to your eyes, They give you the widest view and don't require a slight head-turn to look. All you do is slight glance to your left. If you are a cyclist and ride on the road, get a rear-view mirror!
I use a mirror and a radar . Amazon has the best small mirror for glasses love it . Question is try taking off your car rear view mirror and you driving experiences and safe go down hill . Same on a bike . The glasses mounted mirror is the best .
I have a handle bar mirror, I shudder to ride without it. I check the mirror to see if a car is coming and then I use your drop shoulder method to also visually check. Cars are much closer than the mirror indicates. Thanks for teaching that method.
I use a mirror all the time & a friend used the garmin, but he got into trouble be as he did signal with his arm, but he didn't look round, as for some reason, car drivers in the UK seem to get very upset if you don't look round, it's seen as arrogance, "what, you're just going to stick your arm out & wobble across the road with out a clue what's behind"! So I at least look like ime looking back, even if I'm actual just looking to the side, this makes car drivers feel that I done everything correctly, even though I had clocked them in my mirror several times before I'd even indicated 😁
I use varia radar and it's very helpful. But checking back before changing position is a must, as some drivers are very polite and patiently crawl behind waiting for a good moment to overtake, in this situation radar is not seeing anything as there is no speed difference between the rider and the car behind.
I use a mirror (attached to glasses) but I don't think it substitutes for turning my head if I'm going to move left or turn. It's an easy way to get a general sense of what's happening behind me. And I agree with the "use all your senses" approach - I never use earbuds or anything that affects my hearing when riding. Alertness to sound and visual cues in the mirror are the main ways I stay aware of approaching cars. I'd consider a radar at a lower price point, but even then I'd still use a mirror.
I liked the first video and tried to put those tips into practice. It was helpful, thanks. I also have the radar - it's really useful - great as a first step - but I still ALWAYS turn my head
Great advice. I’m with you. I don’t like mirrors attached to my helmet for several reasons. First like you mentioned they can be a distraction. Second if you crash do I want something that might end up causing injury to my eye or head. And third what about if the sun is shining behind me? That reflected sunlight could be at best annoying. I’m a subscriber. I’ve taught many riders how to look back without swerving. One easy way is to point with your hand behind you with the side you want to look before turning your head. That trailing arm will help keep you straight. Thanks for your content. 👍🚴♂️
I use a mirror to plan my manoeuvre so I’m not constantly turning to check if clear, but I’ll always turn my head before I commit. And use clear body language for drivers. My mirror also helps me know if someone is coming up behind my on country roads, so if there is someone coming from the front I can squeeze over a bit. I wouldn’t want to be looking back all that often on a long ride.
I use to ride with a bar-end mirror but found I was constantly checking my mirror instead of enjoying the ride or watching in front of me. Tried helmet mirrors but found they always sat right outside my vision (I wear prescription glasses). When I did find one that sit in the right spot, like you it took some time for my eyes to refocus on the distance. But the Varia - total game changer. It's not perfect, but it sure helps you focus on everything in front and to the sides UNTIL it's time to look back. I can tell from the sound how close a car is and how close it will pass but that notification from 150m or more that a car is coming helps me ride more aware. Your video on shoulder checks is spot on, too. The one thing rarely mentioned in Varia reviews is something drivers have commented on - when the Varia detects cars, it changes the light pattern. Drivers have told me this catches their eye and has made me more visible.
I'm 66 and I have a lot of experience with bad car drivers. All those opinions are worth listening to. Personally I always look back when I hear a car coming and the simple fact of looking back will get the car going far from you and /or you will be abble to apreciate the good or bad car driver instantly. A good feeling about the noise of the incoming car ( if you don't look back ) can give you informations about the bad car driver but only at 50% acurate. A bad car driver passing you intentionnaly is aware of what "he" is doing because if you just raise your hand to mention the bad behaviour you will see "him" giving you the bad finger as "he" looks to "his" mirror. When looking back to go left I will not just look but turn my head as far as I can because a simple look back will not allow you having a good sight, even if with the age coming it's more difficult. Your videos are great.
Until I got into my late 50's I didn't feel the need for mirrors (I'm now 72). As I've gotten old, my neck has become stiff, making it painfully difficult to turn my head to look back while riding. Mirrors solve that problem for me. I never have tried a radar device, so might look into that. I already use a Garmin GPS computer mounted on my handlebar, so I guess another similarly sized device might be useful if its reliable and accurate.
Ive found that when I *only* head check, drivers can assume I'm about to change lanes in front of them, and sometimes slow down, creating a situation I don't want to be in (I'd rather wait until they pass). Using a mirror for those quick reference checks first, then only head checking when I want to turn (kind of like driving a car), makes everything smoother and avoids those awkward situations. Also, a mirror is extremely useful on highways and fast country roads, IMO, especially with a headwind which compromises the ability to hear vehicles coming from behind; yes you can head check, but it gets tedious to do it all the time just in case a truck is sneaking up.
Great video. And, to put your point succinctly, it is well documented that the overwhelming majority of communication is nonverbal much in the way of body language. Guess what looking and acknowledging another road user is? You guessed it: nonverbal communication. That being said, I made eye contact w/ a driver at a cross street stop sign. We made contact, I was going ~18-20mph commuting to work in travel lane, and she still pulled out across me to make a left turn onto the main road. So now, I just assume I’m invisible.
I've been cycling my entire adult life (longer than I care to admit but 'Woodstock' had just entered the vocabulary). For me it has to be a handlebar mirror. In fact if I had to choose between a helmet or a handlebar mirror when I'm riding (if for some reason I was forced to choose just one or the other), I'd take the mirror. I prefer a good handlebar mirror because I use it not just for making left turns but I like to keep an eye on what's going on behind me regularly. The mirror gives me intel on what's behind while I can keep looking forward for pot holes, debris, parked cars with opening doors, etc. So as for me, it's a mirror, a good one on the handlebar that I can check at a glance and that won't be constantly in my face.
might also consider using your left arm to signal your intention to move to the left. I extend my arm fully and kinda wave it to let everyone know I'm merging to the left.
Im a motorcyclist primarily rider we call it life saver even with mirrors I always looks back started road cycling and do the same , there’s a blind spot even with mirrors a look back might save your life
Forget some aero loss, use a larger convex mirror mounted sufficiently further on/from the hoods if on dropbars. Mirror on helmet means you need to hold your head straight to find the right behind view. It's trying to use a mirror like a head lamp.
I've been cycling since I was 6, became a "serious cyclist" at 12 when I complete my first century, and spent some time as an amateur racer, spending a season racing in Europe. I have never used a mirror, I have a thing called a "neck" which allows me to turn my head in several different directions. I don't have to contort my body into odd positions to put my eye on what is coming up behind me, and I have never seen a mirror in the pro or amateur racing peloton. I can easily see what is behind my by looking over or under my arm. Cars come with mirrors, but drivers are still taught to look over their shoulders when turning or changing lanes because mirrors may not show everything coming up behind or next to you. The other important thing I have is a pair ears, which I don't stuff with ear buds or headphones. With my ears, I can hear a vehicle coming up behind behind me, I can hear if it is a car or truck, I can hear how fast it is going, and I can even hear if it is driving near the shoulder as I can hear the tires running over shoulder debris. I've played tag with cars on city streets and highways on a bike in some of the world's busiest metro areas (I live in Tokyo), and have managed to ride pretty long without being run over.
I agree with your first video - people need to learn how to turn their head while still riding forward. It's a basic cycling skill - even with a car we are taught to check our blind spots by turning our heads - all these cameras and radars in modern cars IMO give people a sense of false confidence and I see driving skills lacking today (I'm 54). People tailgate (no more 3 second rule), speed and generally are not aware. I'm all for technology in our lives, but the beauty of a bicycle is it's analog, mechanical and requires no batteries which makes it an excellent way to commute. Good for you for having an open mind and testing all this out - but I'm with you brother - TURN YOUR HEAD! Great content - thanks!
You are so right about turning your head. I can't believe its not second nature like pedaling is to all cyclists. I don't cycle in the city as you do, I road ride in a pac out in the country. Not to long ago I started using a mirror on the bar end. It was a real eye opener when I rode at the back of our pac. I was never aware of how many cars slow down to our groups speed for a very long time, even though there is another open lane to pass. For this reason alone I decided to leave it on the bike. It took some getting used to. I had learn how to quickly look at it and re focus on my position in the pac. Now I have two habits, check the mirror for on coming traffic, and turn my head when making lane changes.
I have varia rtl515 and i love it. It removes a lot of stress during cycling, only bad thing with it - you don't know who's behind you, another cyclist, angry dog or truck :) Anw, if i need move to the left i stop, look around, let other cars pass and do that when it's safe.
I use a mirror on my handlebars, but I also look back. Turning to look back is an additional visual clue to drivers that I am thinking to change my lane position or direction.
Tested a few mirrors. For road cycling, the Cateye BM 24 is the best IMO. It’s discrete and stable on the handlebar end, and the magnification is just nice to see cars at the rear far enough.
I have given up riding my racing bike in city traffic -I think my neck must be stiff !! I must try a mirror on my racer even on quiet country roads - city it's now my old mountain bike ( saved from a trash skip) - I stop to look around to be honest when I'm riding in the city ! Great video a very important topic ! - Thanks for video !
Agree entirely with what you say. One thing I would have pointed out though is that the Garmin Varia only flags approaching traffic, so if something sits behind you for a while it will disappear from the display... I have a Varia and it's great at giving a heads up for approaching traffic. However, it's always best to double check by turning around 👍
Ai have limited peripheral vision so use radar for early warning, bar end mirror for quick glances but nothing will ever replace turn and look before manover. I did try the helmet mirror but as I need bi-focal glasses they are out of my focal range.
Good point about the body language of a head check. It is a signal to other road users. Motorcycle training says to never just use your mirrors. Always do a head check. I do that on the bicycle as well.
Hearing is so important for cars coming up on you. I don't have a mirror. But hearing can be deceived by two cars following each other closely because it sounds like one car.
You'll have to own a compatible bike computer for the radar. The whole rig can be super expensive. Mirrors won't fit well with some race groups. You don't see them at all in the pro peloton. The original video on how to look back still has value.
My experience...I started seriously road riding about 18 years ago in Chicago and mostly south suburbs. I commuted daily to work. 10 miles one way on busy streets. Some with little or no bike lane. No mirrors starting out. I looked back for traffic. After a short time I noticed 2 things. Neck and shoulder pain. And I was frequently honked at, yelled at, and given the finger. I then went to the small rectangle mirror attached to my glasses. MUCH MUCH smaller than that clunky thing in your video. Wow! What a change. With the mirror adjusted right. All I needed was a slight head movement and I saw everything coming behind me. The mirror I use is 3/4" wide and a 1.5 " long. I am never without it when I ride. No neck and shoulder pain and only get honked at by the typical driver who hates bikes...for no other reason. I now ride in much less traffic in Michigan. When with other riders who don't have mirrors I am the one ALWAYS saying "car back!". My only problem is on one way streets. Always trying to stay on the right side so I can see traffic in my mirror. Over the years there are little things that have helped me in big ways road riding. That little mirror on my glasses ranks near #1!
Had a mirror but radar works better. My number one safety tip is to find less traveled roads even if it takes longer. Don’t assume you have a right to be on the road take the sidewalk if necessary to navigate around a congested area.
Well, I agree to a point, we have a right to be on the road, as a matter-of-fact we are supposed to be on the road according to the law, but like you said, try to ride on the sidewalk sometimes if it makes more sense for safety purposes. Just did it myself the other day.
The first skill I recommend to newbie cyclists is the ability to look back without swerving. I have a radar and really like it, but I consider it extra information and will not move into a traffic lane without actually looking back.
My bike has an upright posture and swept back handlebars so big mirrors on the handlebars are perfect. Being a motorcycle rider the experience was familiar to me. It's not a substitute for looking behind you when you cross lanes. It does help you to be aware of what is going on behind you. I love them!
I love your test! Heavn't heard about radar yet, but what I like in simple look back, that it gives information to drivers, that you are looking and thinking about changing direction. It also gives the quickest overview on whole situation. Mirrors can be shaky on bumpy roads, but outside city they provide information about quick comming car (because you exactly know where to expect them). Personally I dream about backward camera on my handlebar.
I also ride a motorcycle. Part of the test in the UK is correct use of shoulder check. It's also referred to as a "life saver" Anybody who alters course changes lanes on roads without doing a "life saver" and relies solely on mirrors or gadgets is on borrowed time.
I use a helmet mirror, but nothing beats taking a look. The electric cars a too quiet and any car can come up behind you without you seeing it in the mirror as you navigate road hazards. Heck, even driving without looking over your shoulder as you change lanes can be a disaster. Why take the chance on a bike?
I'm one of the people who left a comment about mirrors in that previous video. In this video you got shit bike mirrors. Probably paid way too much for them too. Ok, I'm not a roadie so I'm not worried about losing 0.1% of your aerodynamics. Ffs, my bike has been mistaken for being on a world tour just going to do a little shopping. So I use TWO motorcycle type mirrors, one on each handlebar. They are pretty large and give both excellent long distance and good all round closer views of what's around me. They cost less than ten bucks from Amazon and they are absolutely fantastic. I wouldn't be without them. They keep me aware of what's behind me but I still look quickly behind AND use clear and prolonged outstretched arm signals to communicate clearly and emphatically with vehicles behind me before I change my position on the road. But I still keep an eye on the mirrors in case a driver is going to barge past me regardless. And having two mirrors, one on each handlebar means I will still have a clear view of what's behind with one of them whether I'm following a right or left curve on the road. Convex only mirrors make everything too small to see unless it's right up your ass and flat only gives you a narrow field of view. But when it comes to roadies and anything that detracts from the purity of the bike I'm sure I'm wasting my breath. Unless it's very small, incredibly too expensive and overpriced and cool in the community. But seriously, also check the cheapest stuff on Amazon or AliExpress first. It's amazing the bargains you find. You can search from 0 - 10 bucks and then 10 - 20 and so on. It's what I do.
Riding after 30+ years here, in the jungle were no one respects any single road law, regulation or nothing. I always first put my arm up, signalling I'm turning, then look back if I can turn, and then turn. No mirrors. The radar only for open roads, where cars do over 60mph. Great video.
Biggest takeaway I've gotten from this is that radars even exist. I had no idea! In any case, mirrors are great, but they're no replacement for learning to look over the shoulder. In addition to seeing what's there directly, it's a signal that you're going to maneuver.
Love this! I ride in FL heavy traffic training, pace lines, group rides, etc. Most of my cycling buddies have varias, but I’ve always even afraid if I got one, I’d become too dependent on it. There are many situations where our bike lanes end and we must take the lane. Turning around and waving/ communicating with motorists behind a group is crucial. Also, when pulling off the front of a pace line it signals to the riders behind that you’re about to make a move! Subscribed, keep up the great content Mitch!
Thank you for subscribing. Lowered expectations for future content please 😬 haha - I’ll try my best.
@@cyclingskillsthank you for mentioning us with neck injuries ❤ I've been practicing dropping my shoulder to turn and look.
Garmin Varia radar just lets you know a car is behind you and I won’t ride without it. The eyeglass or helmet mounted mirror lets you know if they’ve moved over.
Even with a radar, I STILL look back. It's 95% accurate NOT 100%!
This. Love the radar but look all the time
It only shows things if they are closing with you. If a car paces you for a while waiting for a spot to pass, it will think they are gone. The first time that happened to me, when I shoulder checked and there was a car RIGHT THERE I flinched so hard I almost hit the curb.
This is why I look!@@benbencom
@@benbencom This is why the radar should always be complimented with a mirror. Have both and would never hand them back even for a £1m. Been cycling for over 40 years and drivers rarely understand why you are looking back (eye contact). I've had dangerous passes using both methods, and it makes very little difference in the new age of 'I need to drive quick it's my road'.
@@benbencom if they are going slow enough they can also "sneak" up on you without giving you any warning at all, specially on narrow curvy roads.
I’m 70 and have back and neck issues. 10 years ago I could look back but now I can’t. I just bought a mirror and find it works reasonably well. I cycle quiet roads and avoid busy traffic.
I think that most drivers will notice you turning your head and this is an indication of intention. Another good practice is to use hand signals!! I tried helmet mirrors in the past but I found this very distracting. Always remember, you're a small vehicle on the road: be patient, your life is on the line. Some people are not nice, this is just life. If you feel unsafe, get off the road and find a safe path.
I grew up in Washington, DC, and I can ride in traffic and never use mirrors. I advise riders to use all their senses, sight, sound, etc. Never ever wear earbuds on the road. It is really easy to get fooled by the image in a mirror. One critical thing you should have mentioned was establishing eye contact with as many drivers as possible, especially those turning right on red. It is also frequently possible to make eye contact with drivers' mirrors. If you are going to ride in traffic, turning your head is mandatory, in addition to the ability to sprint and understand the flow of the traffic lights.
I've used earbuds for over a decade now. Never had a problem. I ride defensively, look back frequently, even when I'm not turning, communicate with drivers to show intentions, etc. I can still hear traffic coming up behind me.
As long as you only have one ear bud in, I’ve found it to be fine, a perfect mix of being able to hear the road and the music
@@tyisnotme582 I've had both in, but they're not fully sealed. I can still hear car tire and wind noise
Like it or not, the issue with earbuds is that you are giving a portion of your brain's processing to the music. If you are just tooling along, listening to Taylor Swift, and thinking about which post-ride IPA you will have, the mirror on your handlebar will do zero for you when that a-hat in the pickup truck turns you into road mush.
@@Shadowboost Tried earbuds once and was snuck upon by a white bmw as I was turning my head to look back. I could not believe how close the car got to me without me feeling a thing. Overconfidence is dangerous in this regard I think. I only use open-ear bone conduction ear piece on off-road only rides now. Just my 2c.😅
Exactly. Make eye contact. If they don't make the contact assume they haven't seen you. Saved my life more than once.
No one suggested a mirror should replace turning the head 😅.
Turn your head, use a mirror on the handlebar and and if you like the Radar and you are set 😁. Just keep in mind that the radar can fail too if you are unlucky, hehe.
Cheers from Switzerland's Mountain region with way less cars but some steep Hills and Motorcycles :P
You mention something that not enough people talk about. I discovered this years ago, and I teach it to cyclists. I use a mirror, and I can see very well. It's 90% reliable, so I know I might look and not see anything and then find that I'm wrong. But it's still useful for me. I 100% agree that turning my head to give a signal is the most important thing. I will have a car passing me, and the driver won't know that I know he is there. I turn my head to let him know. I don't turn my head to see as I already know he's there. Not only that, I turn my head TWICE. This redundancy makes the signal clearer. I've been told by cyclists behind me that I'm extremely clear to everyone else on the road. I make a lot of signals with my head. It's a skill, and it takes practice. Do the practice, and build the skill! I rarely use hand signals because I believe my head signals are as clear or clearer.
This comment is spot on. Use the mirror to see and the head turn to signal intent.
For me helmet mirror is best really close. Because it looks less nerdy? Yes, but also the field of vision is better. I can turn my head and scan the situation behind, while having the other eye watching ahead. I like the take-a-look mirror. Largeish, rectangular, sits just under my helmet visor. Hand signals and making eye contact are important too.
I have used a helmet mirror for about 40 years. (you have yours set way too far forward for me) They are great. I still turn my head and look some, but I don't have to. Mine is flat. Scan and you'll see it all. Get in the habit of using it and you'll always depend on it
Yes! Very important to use a small flat mirror very close to your head. The field of view grows when it's a lot the closer to your eye and the eye stays focused for distance, a much better option than a big floppy mirror.
This advice is very important with vehicles being quieter than in the past, and many drivers on cellphones. Those of us survivors who started riding before radar and decent mirrors will look back, and being over 70 with shoulder/neck injuries, I practice shoulder drop lookback before taking a bottle regardless of circumstance.
I use a mirror all the time. HOWEVER, bike mirrors, just like cars have BLIND SPOTS. I still need to look over my shoulder because I’m an older cyclist. I have avoided many dangerous situations because I LOOKED.
Always looking back, when you’re riding in an urban environment, you just have to be super aware of everything and always pay attention. And I completely agree that when you look back it does let the driver know you’re aware of them and they will feel more comfortable passing you, instead of cautiously following behind because they’re not sure if you know they’re there.
There can always be an argument against any solution e.g. one could argue that the mirror blocks some of your forward vision.
Bottom line (as you said)... there are various options, and people just need to find what works for them.
If it's a mirror, great. If it's a safe turn of the head, great. If it's a radar, great. Whatever it is, if it's legal and it keeps you and other roads users / pedestrians safe, great.
I am excited to start using your techniques today to correct weaving out of my lane when I turn my head. Using mirrors only assist and should never replace turning to see who is hanging in the blind spot no matter driving or cycling. Never trust motorists to turn their heads to look for you. When merging I also use hand signals right or left with a friendly wave to cooperative motorists. Like Mr. Cyclingskills says Eye contact. Very good content.
Thank you, stay safe and enjoy the ride ✅
The two most important words of advice regarding cycling safety - "eye contact" 👍
I ride a MTB, often in traffic and always with pedestrians or other bikes etc in front/behind. I use two mirrors on my bars, both underneath - basically like a motorcycle. They are great and I could never confidently ride without them in traffic - imagine taking your mirrors off of your car! That said, your tip the last time for looking back without swerving has been really great - I use it when my mirrors are fogged up or when I'm in situation which requires quick confidence and looking back is faster/safer than trying to focus on the mirror. I think people forget that even with cameras and mirrors on our vehicles, we still physically look over our shoulders.
I bike with a mirror, but I also turn my head as the verification check. The mirror lets me know what is around me. It gives me an ongoing watch of traffic behind me. I don’t rely on the mirror as my only look before moving. I must turn my head before moving. Thanks for the video.
I got a little goggles-mount mirror a few years back, and I don't know why I ever rode without it. However, if I need to cross traffic lanes, I still look over my shoulder. It's the same as checking your blind spot before a lane change when driving. When your life is on the line, check twice.
My daily commuter has a straight bar with a pretty big mirror on the left side. It works great but I still never go from right to left without a good shoulder check. Comes from years on a motorcycle where the stakes are much bigger. Love the advice you give to use everything that is available to you.
In the last 50 years I have bicycled 40,000 miles and driven a half million miles in cities, towns and rural areas in many states.
It is important to be able to turn your head to look back, but I do not like to bike without a mirror. I have tried several mirrors but a $25. Take A Look bike mirror clipped on my glasses works best for me.
I ride on a lot of city streets and rural roads. I use a Garmin Varia RTL 510 radar taillight with my Garmin bike computer. It is worth having, but it does not replace my mirror. The 510 will tell me if one or more vehicles are approaching behind me, but it does not tell me which lane they are in or what type of vehicle.
I need to tilt my head a bit to see what is behind me in my mirror, but I can see what vehicles are in each lane and if a vehicle is signaling a turn. The 510 alerts me to the speed and distance of vehicles - if I I have not looked in my mirror for a while, if a vehicle is just around a curve or just over a hill behind me. The 510 is also helpful along with my mirror when I want to change lanes or when the sun is low enough to be shining directly in my mirror.
I never assume any driver or pedestrian sees me and I never assume which way they are going. If I have the right of way I don’t assume a driver will comply.
I pump my arm in the direction I am turning to increase the visibility of my hand signals. A helmet, bright clothing and a flashing day and night headlight and taillight (like the 510) are great safety essentials. I have used Cycliq front and rear cameras the last few years which ma show who is at fault in a crash.
I recently converted from a handlebar mirror to a flat helmet mirror. I like it much better. A slight twist of the neck and you can see pretty much everything going on behind you. I use it mostly for general awareness. I like to know what is coming up behind me and if a car is about to buzz me a little too closely. Cars are getting quieter and I have slight hearing loss, so I really like the extra security I get from it. Now, for getting across a lane or two to make a left turn....I will turn my head completely to look behind me. I want to be 100% sure before I jut out into a lane of traffic.
Excellent video. I have 2 handlebar convex mirrors and they make SUCH a difference. Very useful for quick glance do maintain situational awareness. Cant ride without them. However I still look back before crossing. The key here is to treat the mirrors as **just ONE of the links in a safety chain**. So use the mirrors to get a quick pic of whats behind, if it shows no cars then turn heard to check and then cross. Never cross after using ONLY mirror! And most of all as the video said if in any doubt or you're not confident of head turn - STOP. Just stop. Look. Cross. Happy biking global biking friends!
Thank you for the comment ❤️
Thanks for adding the part about communication! Turning the head tells drivers that we know they are they and will not do anything unpredictable but expect the same respect! Keep your head on a swivel or stick to stationary bike
I have been using a handlebar mirror for a couple of years. It's a flat mirror as the convex are crap. But about a year ago I added the radar and now use both. The really do compliment each other, particularly as I live in a rural area where the roads are 80km/h and 100km/h zones.
Great point near the end: Get whatever helps you stay alive.
And I would add something to what you said: decent cyclists usually make much better drivers. They’re used to seeing everything around them that’s a threat, while motorists are in a cocoon.
Well said 👍
Adding a mirror in the helmet is adding a blind point in front of you. Developing the habit of looking behind is more safe.
Exactly !
How about also the danger of the reflection of the sun beaming in your eyes from the mirror?
@@DryhumorGuy-1 Good point !
The mirror should be located in the upper left of your vision, such that it doesn't block your view of what is ahead. Not all helmet mirrors provide the adjustment for this, though.
@@SkyhawkSteve I thought I had seen the mirrors somewhat in that position. But I was thinking about when you are riding In an aggressive position with your head forward and downward with your eyes upward....could that one little mirror be In just the right spot to block your vision at just the perfect moment to cause a bad accident? It only takes a fraction of a second for it to happen....
I have a Suunto radar which I purchased about 9 months ago. It works very well as you mention for the Garmin radar. I also ride with a Shokz Openrun headset paired by bluetooth to the phone. This allows the radar warning tone to be audible even in a high noise environment. I liked the tips you gave in the previous video for turning your head because I still need to check on my riding partners whereabouts before blowing a buger.
Mirror user here, but training to do a full look back without weaving is an essential skill I am working on.
I’m with you, I turn around to check on traffic, but I use hand signals to let the drivers know that I’m intending to move to my right or left. And yes I too have a mirror at the end of the drop downs.
Your tip to dip your shoulder and bend your arm, really worked well for me.
TriEye mirror cycling glasses are amazing.
I don't have a mirror at the moment, but I do miss it. The main purpose of a mirror for me is that if you can see a car coming you don't have to bother to turn to look - however, I never use/used it as absolute confirmation that the road is clear. So, my process was typically - check mirror - if I can see a car it's not clear, so no need to turn to check - once car passes, check mirror again - if it looks clear in the mirror, turn to look to confirm if it really is clear.
I've used a mirror for years, but I found your advice on how to look over your shoulder very helpful. Even with a mirror there are times when I feel the need to look over should.
I ride with Cycliq FLY6 and FLY12 camera/lights (which I love) and I also use a small mirror attached to my glasses. It gives me peace of mind when I’m riding on the road-which is invaluable. The ability to glance up and take note of the conditions behind allows me to position myself and be ready before it happens. Of course I always turn my head and give hand directions before making any moves. Really, it comes down to what works for you. If you’re comfortable without a mirror and keeping your head on a swivel, cool. But you’re right, it takes time to get used to a mirror and learn how to get it positioned properly.
I use a wrist mirror for years now, for me it's the best choice, works very well, doesn't make me dizzy and it's reaaly easy to just close. I neve used a radar, but I would if it wasn't so expensive in my country. Still, I always look back to be certain. Thanks for your videos, they're awesome and don't have the "bike snob" approach, after all 'go ride your bike should be the first message ever' kkkkkkk
Awesomesauce, thank you for watching 👍
For me personally I like the mirror, while it takes a while to get use to it. I wouldn't ride without one. Also I have a blinkie light on my helmet & behind my rear set post, which makes a huge difference on riding on the road. Of course looking back to make sure before making a turn is a must. That's usually the only time I turn my head, but then I ride on very, very low traffic country roads , which makes riding enjoyable after riding in & around the city for many years.
I was using helmet mirrors 45 years ago, mostly home made ones. There were times when I was road racing and the other riders behind me were amazed that I could cross over to the center to make a turn without looking back, it was also great to keep an eye on riders about to jump past me.
I've used mirrors on my drop bars for 50 years and I've never looked back 🤪
If I ride a bike without a mirror, I don't feel as safe.
You wouldn't drive a car or ride a motorcycle without mirrors. I feel the same with bicycle mirrors.
I heard of a cyclist who crashed into a stationary truck and died after he turned his head to look behind 😢
I turn and look when I can but I like a mirror for situational awareness. I used to use a handlebar mounted mirror but I found that when riding on really rough surfaces it bounces so much that it is useless. I now use a Bike Peddler Take a L👀K mirror that mounts on my eyeglasses and I love it. I may have to look into a radar someday, though.
I use a rubber band to assist holding my helmet mounted mirror. It goes from the mirror arm thru a helmet cooling hole and back to the mirror arm. It keeps the mirror in place and greatly reduces vibrations giving me a clear picture of the road behind me before I make a left turn. I also stay keenly alert for the sounds of an oncoming vehicle. These have kept me safe for many years.
I've used a zefal z-eye bike helmet mirror for 15 years. Similar to the black one on your hat. Not perfect - especially with adverse lighting - low sun from behind etc. The convex mirror is much better. You can scan behind by turning your head side to side and see huge area. I always give a quick glance back when I think it is clear according to mirror just to make sure. The head mirror follows your head movement and little / no vibration compared to handle bar mirror.
I use over the shoulder, my mirror and stopping. I’m going to get the radar. Thanks for this posting. It’s they are good reminders.
Well, you've got a point of view. Personally I've been using handlebar mirrors for many many years and they give me a good awareness of what's going on around me. Mirrycle in my case. A bell is another essential.
Rear-view mirror for bicycling is as essential as a rear-view mirror for driving. Once you start using it, you realize how handicapped you were without it.
The best rear-view mirrors are helmet-mounted, close to your eyes, They give you the widest view and don't require a slight head-turn to look. All you do is slight glance to your left.
If you are a cyclist and ride on the road, get a rear-view mirror!
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I use a mirror and a radar . Amazon has the best small mirror for glasses love it . Question is try taking off your car rear view mirror and you driving experiences and safe go down hill . Same on a bike . The glasses mounted mirror is the best .
I have a handle bar mirror, I shudder to ride without it. I check the mirror to see if a car is coming and then I use your drop shoulder method to also visually check. Cars are much closer than the mirror indicates. Thanks for teaching that method.
Funny, instructive and beautiful city shots. Thanks
Thank you 🙏
I use a mirror all the time & a friend used the garmin, but he got into trouble be as he did signal with his arm, but he didn't look round, as for some reason, car drivers in the UK seem to get very upset if you don't look round, it's seen as arrogance, "what, you're just going to stick your arm out & wobble across the road with out a clue what's behind"! So I at least look like ime looking back, even if I'm actual just looking to the side, this makes car drivers feel that I done everything correctly, even though I had clocked them in my mirror several times before I'd even indicated 😁
I use varia radar and it's very helpful. But checking back before changing position is a must, as some drivers are very polite and patiently crawl behind waiting for a good moment to overtake, in this situation radar is not seeing anything as there is no speed difference between the rider and the car behind.
I use a mirror (attached to glasses) but I don't think it substitutes for turning my head if I'm going to move left or turn. It's an easy way to get a general sense of what's happening behind me. And I agree with the "use all your senses" approach - I never use earbuds or anything that affects my hearing when riding. Alertness to sound and visual cues in the mirror are the main ways I stay aware of approaching cars. I'd consider a radar at a lower price point, but even then I'd still use a mirror.
I liked the first video and tried to put those tips into practice. It was helpful, thanks. I also have the radar - it's really useful - great as a first step - but I still ALWAYS turn my head
Great advice. I’m with you. I don’t like mirrors attached to my helmet for several reasons. First like you mentioned they can be a distraction. Second if you crash do I want something that might end up causing injury to my eye or head. And third what about if the sun is shining behind me? That reflected sunlight could be at best annoying. I’m a subscriber. I’ve taught many riders how to look back without swerving. One easy way is to point with your hand behind you with the side you want to look before turning your head. That trailing arm will help keep you straight.
Thanks for your content. 👍🚴♂️
Great video. Your final comments are spot on.
Thanks for watching 👍
I use a mirror to plan my manoeuvre so I’m not constantly turning to check if clear, but I’ll always turn my head before I commit. And use clear body language for drivers.
My mirror also helps me know if someone is coming up behind my on country roads, so if there is someone coming from the front I can squeeze over a bit. I wouldn’t want to be looking back all that often on a long ride.
Excellent video. I'm 75. I have to be very careful, and try to always STOP and LOOK if in doubt about where cars are.
I like the little aero-ish mirrors that plug into the drop of my bar. Can't look around to much, but once set it's good.
I use to ride with a bar-end mirror but found I was constantly checking my mirror instead of enjoying the ride or watching in front of me. Tried helmet mirrors but found they always sat right outside my vision (I wear prescription glasses). When I did find one that sit in the right spot, like you it took some time for my eyes to refocus on the distance. But the Varia - total game changer. It's not perfect, but it sure helps you focus on everything in front and to the sides UNTIL it's time to look back. I can tell from the sound how close a car is and how close it will pass but that notification from 150m or more that a car is coming helps me ride more aware. Your video on shoulder checks is spot on, too. The one thing rarely mentioned in Varia reviews is something drivers have commented on - when the Varia detects cars, it changes the light pattern. Drivers have told me this catches their eye and has made me more visible.
I'm 66 and I have a lot of experience with bad car drivers.
All those opinions are worth listening to.
Personally I always look back when I hear a car coming and the simple fact of looking back will get the car going far from you and /or you will be abble to apreciate the good or bad car driver instantly.
A good feeling about the noise of the incoming car ( if you don't look back ) can give you informations about the bad car driver but only at 50% acurate.
A bad car driver passing you intentionnaly is aware of what "he" is doing because if you just raise your hand to mention the bad behaviour you will see "him" giving you the bad finger as "he" looks to "his" mirror.
When looking back to go left I will not just look but turn my head as far as I can because a simple look back will not allow you having a good sight, even if with the age coming it's more difficult.
Your videos are great.
Until I got into my late 50's I didn't feel the need for mirrors (I'm now 72). As I've gotten old, my neck has become stiff, making it painfully difficult to turn my head to look back while riding. Mirrors solve that problem for me. I never have tried a radar device, so might look into that. I already use a Garmin GPS computer mounted on my handlebar, so I guess another similarly sized device might be useful if its reliable and accurate.
Definitely the helmet mounted mirror, tend of thousands of miles and very satisfied, I feel naked without it!
Ive found that when I *only* head check, drivers can assume I'm about to change lanes in front of them, and sometimes slow down, creating a situation I don't want to be in (I'd rather wait until they pass). Using a mirror for those quick reference checks first, then only head checking when I want to turn (kind of like driving a car), makes everything smoother and avoids those awkward situations. Also, a mirror is extremely useful on highways and fast country roads, IMO, especially with a headwind which compromises the ability to hear vehicles coming from behind; yes you can head check, but it gets tedious to do it all the time just in case a truck is sneaking up.
Great video. And, to put your point succinctly, it is well documented that the overwhelming majority of communication is nonverbal much in the way of body language. Guess what looking and acknowledging another road user is? You guessed it: nonverbal communication. That being said, I made eye contact w/ a driver at a cross street stop sign. We made contact, I was going ~18-20mph commuting to work in travel lane, and she still pulled out across me to make a left turn onto the main road. So now, I just assume I’m invisible.
I've been cycling my entire adult life (longer than I care to admit but 'Woodstock' had just entered the vocabulary). For me it has to be a handlebar mirror. In fact if I had to choose between a helmet or a handlebar mirror when I'm riding (if for some reason I was forced to choose just one or the other), I'd take the mirror. I prefer a good handlebar mirror because I use it not just for making left turns but I like to keep an eye on what's going on behind me regularly. The mirror gives me intel on what's behind while I can keep looking forward for pot holes, debris, parked cars with opening doors, etc. So as for me, it's a mirror, a good one on the handlebar that I can check at a glance and that won't be constantly in my face.
might also consider using your left arm to signal your intention to move to the left. I extend my arm fully and kinda wave it to let everyone know I'm merging to the left.
I agree. I use a mirror to see what's coming up behind, but if changing lanes definitely turn my head to confirm.
Im a motorcyclist primarily rider we call it life saver even with mirrors I always looks back started road cycling and do the same , there’s a blind spot even with mirrors a look back might save your life
Forget some aero loss, use a larger convex mirror mounted sufficiently further on/from the hoods if on dropbars.
Mirror on helmet means you need to hold your head straight to find the right behind view. It's trying to use a mirror like a head lamp.
I've been cycling since I was 6, became a "serious cyclist" at 12 when I complete my first century, and spent some time as an amateur racer, spending a season racing in Europe. I have never used a mirror, I have a thing called a "neck" which allows me to turn my head in several different directions. I don't have to contort my body into odd positions to put my eye on what is coming up behind me, and I have never seen a mirror in the pro or amateur racing peloton. I can easily see what is behind my by looking over or under my arm. Cars come with mirrors, but drivers are still taught to look over their shoulders when turning or changing lanes because mirrors may not show everything coming up behind or next to you.
The other important thing I have is a pair ears, which I don't stuff with ear buds or headphones. With my ears, I can hear a vehicle coming up behind behind me, I can hear if it is a car or truck, I can hear how fast it is going, and I can even hear if it is driving near the shoulder as I can hear the tires running over shoulder debris. I've played tag with cars on city streets and highways on a bike in some of the world's busiest metro areas (I live in Tokyo), and have managed to ride pretty long without being run over.
I agree with your first video - people need to learn how to turn their head while still riding forward. It's a basic cycling skill - even with a car we are taught to check our blind spots by turning our heads - all these cameras and radars in modern cars IMO give people a sense of false confidence and I see driving skills lacking today (I'm 54). People tailgate (no more 3 second rule), speed and generally are not aware. I'm all for technology in our lives, but the beauty of a bicycle is it's analog, mechanical and requires no batteries which makes it an excellent way to commute. Good for you for having an open mind and testing all this out - but I'm with you brother - TURN YOUR HEAD! Great content - thanks!
Mirrors are good for making you aware of vehicles approaching, although I always look back before I turn toward left.
You are so right about turning your head. I can't believe its not second nature like pedaling is to all cyclists. I don't cycle in the city as you do, I road ride in a pac out in the country. Not to long ago I started using a mirror on the bar end. It was a real eye opener when I rode at the back of our pac. I was never aware of how many cars slow down to our groups speed for a very long time, even though there is another open lane to pass. For this reason alone I decided to leave it on the bike. It took some getting used to. I had learn how to quickly look at it and re focus on my position in the pac. Now I have two habits, check the mirror for on coming traffic, and turn my head when making lane changes.
I have varia rtl515 and i love it. It removes a lot of stress during cycling, only bad thing with it - you don't know who's behind you, another cyclist, angry dog or truck :) Anw, if i need move to the left i stop, look around, let other cars pass and do that when it's safe.
"l'angle mort ... sans ... t'es mort" - great video ! thanks !
I use a mirror on my handlebars, but I also look back. Turning to look back is an additional visual clue to drivers that I am thinking to change my lane position or direction.
Tested a few mirrors. For road cycling, the Cateye BM 24 is the best IMO. It’s discrete and stable on the handlebar end, and the magnification is just nice to see cars at the rear far enough.
I have given up riding my racing bike in city traffic -I think my neck must be stiff !! I must try a mirror on my racer even on quiet country roads - city it's now
my old mountain bike ( saved from a trash skip) - I stop to look around to be honest when I'm riding in the city !
Great video a very important topic ! - Thanks for video !
He gave the correct answer. Believe ur eyes via a mirror. It’s a minor learning curve but worth ur life.
Agree entirely with what you say. One thing I would have pointed out though is that the Garmin Varia only flags approaching traffic, so if something sits behind you for a while it will disappear from the display...
I have a Varia and it's great at giving a heads up for approaching traffic. However, it's always best to double check by turning around 👍
Ai have limited peripheral vision so use radar for early warning, bar end mirror for quick glances but nothing will ever replace turn and look before manover. I did try the helmet mirror but as I need bi-focal glasses they are out of my focal range.
When learning to drive an auto it was hammered into my head - always look in the mirror and then look with the eye.
Good point about the body language of a head check. It is a signal to other road users.
Motorcycle training says to never just use your mirrors. Always do a head check. I do that on the bicycle as well.
Nice review of the gear.. the radar is tempting.. and combined with turning is perfect.
Hearing is so important for cars coming up on you. I don't have a mirror. But hearing can be deceived by two cars following each other closely because it sounds like one car.
You'll have to own a compatible bike computer for the radar. The whole rig can be super expensive. Mirrors won't fit well with some race groups. You don't see them at all in the pro peloton. The original video on how to look back still has value.
I do always the shoulder look back, and i have radar and a mirror. Its a automatic,
and good test how the neck work in my 50s :)
Nothing beats my trieye glasses in my humble opinion
My experience...I started seriously road riding about 18 years ago in Chicago and mostly south suburbs. I commuted daily to work. 10 miles one way on busy streets. Some with little or no bike lane. No mirrors starting out. I looked back for traffic. After a short time I noticed 2 things. Neck and shoulder pain. And I was frequently honked at, yelled at, and given the finger. I then went to the small rectangle mirror attached to my glasses. MUCH MUCH smaller than that clunky thing in your video. Wow! What a change. With the mirror adjusted right. All I needed was a slight head movement and I saw everything coming behind me. The mirror I use is 3/4" wide and a 1.5 " long. I am never without it when I ride. No neck and shoulder pain and only get honked at by the typical driver who hates bikes...for no other reason. I now ride in much less traffic in Michigan. When with other riders who don't have mirrors I am the one ALWAYS saying "car back!". My only problem is on one way streets. Always trying to stay on the right side so I can see traffic in my mirror. Over the years there are little things that have helped me in big ways road riding. That little mirror on my glasses ranks near #1!
Had a mirror but radar works better. My number one safety tip is to find less traveled roads even if it takes longer. Don’t assume you have a right to be on the road take the sidewalk if necessary to navigate around a congested area.
Well, I agree to a point, we have a right to be on the road, as a matter-of-fact we are supposed to be on the road according to the law, but like you said, try to ride on the sidewalk sometimes if it makes more sense for safety purposes. Just did it myself the other day.
The first skill I recommend to newbie cyclists is the ability to look back without swerving. I have a radar and really like it, but I consider it extra information and will not move into a traffic lane without actually looking back.
My bike has an upright posture and swept back handlebars so big mirrors on the handlebars are perfect. Being a motorcycle rider the experience was familiar to me. It's not a substitute for looking behind you when you cross lanes. It does help you to be aware of what is going on behind you. I love them!
I like the radar and looking. I’m not looking until my radar clears. Once it clears then I verify my radar by looking back.
I love your test! Heavn't heard about radar yet, but what I like in simple look back, that it gives information to drivers, that you are looking and thinking about changing direction. It also gives the quickest overview on whole situation. Mirrors can be shaky on bumpy roads, but outside city they provide information about quick comming car (because you exactly know where to expect them). Personally I dream about backward camera on my handlebar.
I also ride a motorcycle. Part of the test in the UK is correct use of shoulder check. It's also referred to as a "life saver" Anybody who alters course changes lanes on roads without doing a "life saver" and relies solely on mirrors or gadgets is on borrowed time.
I use my mirror to let me know when it is most safe to turn my head and look back, I always look back to confirm befor doing anything.
I use a helmet mirror, but nothing beats taking a look. The electric cars a too quiet and any car can come up behind you without you seeing it in the mirror as you navigate road hazards. Heck, even driving without looking over your shoulder as you change lanes can be a disaster. Why take the chance on a bike?
Just get one that goes in your handlebar ends. Combined with radar for when you forget to check mirror.
I'm one of the people who left a comment about mirrors in that previous video.
In this video you got shit bike mirrors. Probably paid way too much for them too. Ok, I'm not a roadie so I'm not worried about losing 0.1% of your aerodynamics. Ffs, my bike has been mistaken for being on a world tour just going to do a little shopping.
So I use TWO motorcycle type mirrors, one on each handlebar. They are pretty large and give both excellent long distance and good all round closer views of what's around me.
They cost less than ten bucks from Amazon and they are absolutely fantastic. I wouldn't be without them.
They keep me aware of what's behind me but I still look quickly behind AND use clear and prolonged outstretched arm signals to communicate clearly and emphatically with vehicles behind me before I change my position on the road.
But I still keep an eye on the mirrors in case a driver is going to barge past me regardless.
And having two mirrors, one on each handlebar means I will still have a clear view of what's behind with one of them whether I'm following a right or left curve on the road.
Convex only mirrors make everything too small to see unless it's right up your ass and flat only gives you a narrow field of view.
But when it comes to roadies and anything that detracts from the purity of the bike I'm sure I'm wasting my breath. Unless it's very small, incredibly too expensive and overpriced and cool in the community.
But seriously, also check the cheapest stuff on Amazon or AliExpress first. It's amazing the bargains you find. You can search from 0 - 10 bucks and then 10 - 20 and so on. It's what I do.
I would never rely on a radar in city traffic. It is wonderful on two-lane roads, though. I still use my mirror to double-check.
Riding after 30+ years here, in the jungle were no one respects any single road law, regulation or nothing. I always first put my arm up, signalling I'm turning, then look back if I can turn, and then turn. No mirrors. The radar only for open roads, where cars do over 60mph. Great video.
Biggest takeaway I've gotten from this is that radars even exist. I had no idea!
In any case, mirrors are great, but they're no replacement for learning to look over the shoulder. In addition to seeing what's there directly, it's a signal that you're going to maneuver.