Think about it from a different angle. I've always thought that if you are sitting in a room with those guys and they are looking at you going "ya might wanna dial it back some on the drugs...." how overboard are you going ya know?
When a guy walks in to the recording studio while the band is recording, and they don't recognize him as their former band mate, that is when you know that he has really fallen off the edge, Rest in Peace Syd Barrett.
fallen of the edge? he got completely fried from LSD during one long weekend he had disappeared, and some 'freinds' who were lacing his coffe with it didn't help
Sorry but I've heard Beatle tracks that included Pete Best, and as John Lennon later said, he was a lousy drummer. Producer George Martin certainly wasn't shy about his deficiencies; it's the reason he had arranged studio drummer Andy White to play on the Beatles' first recordings.
@@X9523-z3v They are. I play guitar and bass but I can’t play drums to save my arse. And there’s no place to hide a bad drummer. I’ve literally seen bands transform when a different drummer sat in and in fact Paul told a story much like that at Ringos r&rhof induction
When I played out fronting blues trios and quartets, I learned quickly to find the best drummers and pay them accordingly, it was always worth it. It got me on the radio and them. A weak bass player could be carried by a strong drummer not the other way around. When I paid for a strong rhythm section my job was infinitely easier.
The reason Best was let go is because he wasn’t very good. Just listen to the Decca auditions. Listen, he seems like a nice guy and is a good barroom band kind of drummer, but Ringo was just so much better as history has shown. There’s no kind way to sack someone from their job.
People tend to forget that Paul McCartney is also a pretty decent drummer. He played drums on some of the White Album songs during a period when Ringo left the band for a while. He didn't like Best's drumming at all.
@@drdan75 Paul is an all around kind of musician he has played the piano rather well , his guitar , his drumming . Also some say while doing all that he was also a spy , he was a very busy guy for a while . okay fair enough the spy bit , no one really knows , but he was still very busy either way . lol.
Scott Weiland’s son got kicked out of the band he was in with Slash’s kid and a few other musicians kids. I am not saying he has the same problems, but he got kicked out of the band.
@@philsaggitariusa3738 Stamos is too young to have been involved with the Wrecking Crew, but he has performed live with the Beach Boys a number of times. With so many side projects, his house was pretty full.
@@MrSpankee02 Hey Sean, how much do you wanna bet that there is a load of Journey "fans" that love "Open Arms" and have no idea that they started as a prog band and have no idea who Gregg Rollie is? And as far is the Steve era goes, "Infinity" has always been my favorite album from that time period!
So true. That was an awful story. So many bands back then got their money stolen, never to be gotten back. I never sign anything without reading the whole thing. Cheaper than hiring lawyers to try and get it back later!
Just watch the show Breaking the Band and you'll see just how awful they can be to each other. Fleetwood Mac was way more ugly than I realized. They really tore each other to shreds!
Rowing teams kick off people who don't show up, do heavy drugs and don't contribute or claim they're the best when they're not, too. Back stabbing has nothing to do with it.
I remember Steve Adler did a little drumming spot at an old age home or something on celebrity rehab. The sound was incredible. A huge, rock solid sound that could not be hidden,no matter how obscure the event.
@@musheopeaus4125 Really , Pete was horrible , I had heard some rare outtakes from studio recording sessions where Pete was way off count , and it is very subtle in short versus , but after several versus into the song he would be more than 2or 3 beats off , even my ear (I am not a drummer at all) could clearly tell and it sounded very odd and off , he really couldn't drum back then .
The departure of Mike Starr from Alice In Chains was sad, he had a lot of drug issues and would often cause trouble on tour. He was on a season of celebrity rehab, where he expressed his regret about his last encounter of Layne Staley. Sadly, he could not get sober and passed away in 2011
@@pewsterbaby I don’t know, I think Inez’s more melodic bass parts are a great counter for the abrasive guitar parts. If you look at them from a distance, they kind of look similar, but their styles are different, along with Mike being from the Philippines
The firing of Pete Best became very clear in the documentary "Best of the Beatles" I think or mbe another: Pete's booming narrow constant drum approach was good for '50's Rock & popular in Liverpool's Cavern, but that left no room for Paul's melodic bass runs. No space or variation. Whereas Ringo listens, opens space and interacts with Paul and John and George. Plus, rock solid timing and easy going. =The drummer the band needed.
@@fenderstratguy Yes, well articulated. It'd be hard to say anyone in the Beatles is underrated. But for Ringo, he often is. 'What's best for the song' was their unspoken mantra. The Beatles became more than the sum of their parts.
John stated once: 'we were moving, making progress, he would come late, if ever, to rehearsals and ever was but the same all along. At the end he could not play studio, we needed a session-drummer to take his place, whereas with Ringo..' A very common story among 'taking-off' rock bands. The lazy one quitting on the last step (a very common feature actually, The Police has a similar story, and others too, any discipline involved: people tend to resign just before they would achieve, a slight difference in mindset for great consequences). Also Ringo was a close friend with George, and so having him in the band would be balancing with a reinforced George, considering the 2 ogres standing plain front.. George estranged from his friend may have become a misery, lonely and sad.. not a beatles' storytelling, no way. Pete Best really bears a face expressing permanent failure, he is pathetic. This guy never recovered.
yes, good bands that know what they are doing look for what and who they need at the time, and another example was the changes Deep Purple also went through at the time. Best just wasn't meant to stay in it, and it also had to do with Ringo's general charisma.
You didn't mention Paul Williams of the Temptations, he never recovered after the group let him go and died by suicide from a gunshot to his head. That story made me really sad, cause he was an important voice to the group and so loved.
He wasn't really booted from the group, he left because because he became ill due to his drinking problem. It probably would have happened anyway, though, because there were times he was so bad that he couldn't perform.
@@averythecoolcat from the movie, I had thought they wouldn't let him back in the group, but your right, if he had been well again, he would of been still in the group, I love the temptations, one of my favorite groups, and I miss all of them that passed, Melvin ( Blue) was my favorite.
Regarding Syd Barrett, I believe Pink Floyd continued to admire if not revere him, despite their inability to work with him. I'm saying that, because the inspiration behind songs like "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" was Syd Barrett.
There's a great documentary here on Sydney Barrett which explains... even the wall is on his descent ....some good videos w Syd here and you see he was and always will be pink floyd
thanks, ya exactly. Waters didn't want to do it, but he had no choice but start taking more of Syd's parts over, and i just said to someone that in the case of Brian Jones, Jagger and Richards just kind of ignored and walked over him. it was similar stories, but Floyd were humane enough that they didn't even want to continue on with what was Syd's vision to begin with, and it was much to do with why Roger snapped in 77 and spit on a fan. during Dark Side recordings when the money really began rolling in, is when he began feeling guilt about it, and that along with his other personal grieving all came out in The wall. i wrote a short story about it i hope to get published with my other collections.
Best was fired because he was a terrible drummer, and a mardarse. He did an interview when the Beatles hit the big time, moaning about being sacked, he had his mother with him who did all the talking.
Two things. 1. According to the Beatles Anthology (a collection of interviews of the band members in there later years recalling their time together) Best was let go because of his drinking and not showing up for performances. Ringo (who was in another band at the time) Was hired anytime Best wouldn't show up. They it got to the point where they just asked Ringo to be the drummer and said good bye to Best. 2. I just think it was worth mentioning that, yes, Barret had mental issues before getting into drugs, but the craziness really steamed from the fact that the people he was living with were giving his LSD WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEGE. Knowing taking a drug like that can sometimes really mess you up, but doing it without knowing will really screw you up and make you feel more crazy then you are.
John Lennon said in an interview that Pete Best just "wasn't a Beatle." He didn't fit in and wasn't friendly with the rest of the band. Paul has said similar things, and Brian Epstein didn't like his drumming style very much or his standoffish personality. None of them ever mentioned a drinking problem or not showing up to shows as far as I ever heard. As far as Syd Barret is concerned, I find it extremely difficult to believe that he was dosed with LSD on a regular basis without his knowledge. I don't buy it. It was a well-known fact that Syd liked drugs way too much.
@@gardenofeels6872 also, his hair would not accept a Beatle haircut. They were brutal to him….they made Brian fire him. John could control Epstein easily
Syd Barrett and The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson thought that drugs could expand the mind, part of the myth of 1960s drug counter culture. Sadly, it backfired and both retreated in a world of isolation, though Brian Wilson would return back, well sort of.
The band wasn't happy about letting Barret go either like alot of people on this list. Shine on you Crazy Diamond was their tribute to Syd. They knew they had to do it for the band but they still cared for their friend. Edit: almost forgot, the last time they seen Syd was when he unexpectedly showed up during the recording of Wish You Were Here- the same album they wrote Shine on you Crazy Diamond
Syd Barret had schizophrenia and all that LSD use really brought on the symptoms of his schizophrenia. Pink Floyd didn't kick him out of the band to be dicks. His behavior became so erratic and he started not even playing his guitar during performances and wouldn't talk during an interview just a blank stare. The band still paid homages to him over the years with songs like Shine On You Crazy Diamond, and the album The Wall. He still received some royalties so in Syd Barret's case the band did not do him wrong.
yes, taking LSD while having schizophrenia is beyond crazy, and that can cause drug induced neurosis itself which had happened to me, just by becoming to dependent on it. i think Keith Moon had schizophrenia too, but he was just a big boozer mainly, which also doesn't help because it's a depressive.
If you read his autobiography, it was less that he was taking the drugs more that it was making him erratic. Also according to Keith he was abusive to Anita Pallenberg who was his then girlfriend who eventually cheated on him with and eventually left him for Keith.
well that's why we should always seek out reliable sources of information about them, as opposed to the horrendous mediocracy and mis-information that wound up in the covid madness of the last two years. i didn't know enough about Syd Barret in the 19890s to the point the stories i heard about him them made me crap my pants because of my own mental problems then, in which some of Floyd's grief was harnessed into The Wall. i'll tell you something else--both Waters in The Wall movie, and Peter Gabriel in his Shock the Monkey video from the 80s also, had did the Scull and Crossbones 'salute'(crossing their arms over chest that way), which was trying to warn people of the secret society plans in which the covid madness was the latest attempt at tyranny. you should really see The Wall movie if you haven't. it has been nothing to with so-called covid, it was part of an agenda attempt and very Nazi-like in some ways.
I feel so bad for Stephen Adler. I know using is your own demon but he's tried so many times to be clean. He actually put out his own solo album... Adler.. and it's pretty damn good! I purchased it myself. I just feel we should not drown o those with demons and punish them but to stand beside them and help them out. Be a true friend.
@takesone2knowone So sorry to hear that. I wish people were more compassionate and caring than mean and ugly. Keep your head held high and don't let people know that they are hurting you. 👍
@takesone2knowone That's so true. I was a user starting at 13 until 27 when I became pregnant. The drugs and pregnancy left me out in the cold except for y Grandmother and Grandfather. They never judged me. When I turned 40 I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. There's no cure. So now I'm back on strong opioids and I'm addicted because if I don't have my medicines I'll die from withdrawal because I' ve been on them so long. All of my friends dumped me when I got sick. Sometimes I think the loneliness hurts worse than the disease. Keep your head up because you know who you are and they are the ones missing out on a relationship with a great person! 👍
@takesone2knowone It's tough having these demons. I tend to think that we use to shut them up in our head because they are always taunting us about everything so we use just to get some peace. They shut up. It doesn't make you a bad person and this is all what people who judge us don't understand. If they'd just put their personal feelings and ideologies aside for 5 mins and just really listen to what I explained, then they just might not be so critical and help instead of cursifing. Please hang in there and know you're not alone😊
@takesone2knowoneI totally understand. My mind never shuts off. It drives me insane, literally insane. It's ok to not give 2 shits about the people in your life but remember You Are A Good Person and DON'T let anyone take that from you! Tell yourself... I am a good person. Please do that for me
@takesone2knowone I just want you to know that I understand and I am here for you. Please don't give up. If you give up then all of the people who don't understand you and treat you badly, they win. YOU HAVE TO WIN BY NOT GIVING UP. 👍
I can't believe the audacity of a band to fire STEVE PERRY and then hire a sound alike. That's like throwing out the Hope diamond for costume jewelry 😳
Thankfully for Pete Best, he hung in there thru the years after being fired and finally received the recognition and the compensation he deserved for being there thru The Beatles formative years. In 1995 with the release of the Anthology 1 double CD, Best was paid royalties for his appearance on those early songs. The amount was undisclosed but believed to be a 7-figure amount that he was paid by EMI. He finally saw his mega pay day
well he was just lucky enough to--even Neil Young didn't get paid as nearly as much as he should of back in the 60s, and Rick Emmet was another case were he quit Triumph because he didn't get paid. it was always kind of a sleazy business, and why Zappa started the first 'indie label' in 78--wasn't a guy who take getting screwed by anyone.
yes, that's why Floyd felt so guilty when they decided to continue on and the big money started coming. the grief wound up with waters spitting on a fan in 77, and so he harnessed it all into The Wall.
Thank you my pal!!! The Stones have tried so hard to write Brian out of their history and downplay his importance, and I’ve had god only knows how many ‘Stones’ fans tear me down for saying exactly what you have just said. It’s really great to stumble across somebody else from Brian’s camp.
I felt so bad for Brian Jones. His death caused a chain reaction of another near death. Marianne Faithfull who felt horrible for Brian but she felt Mick and Keith didnt care. She swallowed a whole bunch of drugs. She lived after that.
@@dollydagger4306 but she really didn’t live for a while after that. She chose oblivion, her heroin habit had her living on the streets for 2 years and she lost custody of her son. She is a survivor tho, no doubt about it. I think I played the grooves off Broken English back in the day.
"I'm sorry i can't speak very coherently. It's rather difficult to think of anybody being really interested in me. But you know...I am totally together." Syd's words really broke my heart,i feel the same. I also deal with mental illness and people's lack of comprehension,i know how tough it is.
Hold on amiga, keep your line, dedicate yourself to what and who you love. Here is a clue. The root for madness always points to ego. This particular parasite, ego, is very wrongly addressed in western culture, where publicity incites you, consciously or unconsciously, to emphasize and constantly gratify it. See everybody running after his/her 'pleasure time.' Brag on position and power. A society promoting cheaters, deceivers, or brutal people and sell it as an advanced system.. I absolute better be labeled insane but a regular dude in the damned ship of fools some are running, alongside global passive consent.. Here is some advice taken from experience. I do not work in the field but have often had to deal with crazy friends, (so are my acquaintances, mom always complained about..) and a few time happened to be helpful with 'how i understand.' The best of the fools are the artists, the only ones capable of finding useful craziness. But only to the angle they need basic quietness/happiness to create, and so struggle to get there. Creation then becomes a way to stabilize a state of being. At least for some significant while. Nobody ever created anything intelligible/sensible with madness urging inside, this is a common misconception people have. Dont know your age but if you are still in age of orienting consider. If you have no skills never too late to grasp any. Every difficult stuff you swallow is the mere sum of many little easy plays you gradually explore. (I think Confucius said this, or Lao Zee, don't remember.) Reading old wise books is also a great therapy. Everything at the end of the day is mere putting things in order in your head. This as man's chief function: run amid chaos to pick up wasted stuff and transform it pure organized gold. (This as a metaphor anything you care about can be applied to.) And don't forget. The culprit niches in the ego, often is a subconsciously embedded annoyance having something to do with childhood brainwashing. The cure is to unplug or short-circuit these social chains that are coercitive conventions. The task takes a whole life, but at least that gives a man/woman something to do. Have a good trip. :-). the fool is inspiration in this world, be it. ps. Psychiatrists are better when they acknowledge knowing nothing. The more they are rigidly certain, the more they are in the error. A few are really good, but many are dangerous crap. Choose ya well if need be.
i actually went through hell with The Wall album while my own mental illness was at it's peak in the 1980s. it had something to do with that i kept hearing stories about Syd then, and kept wondering, "oh fuck, is that happening to me too!" it was long before i understood enough about Syd, who in fact was also extremely addicted to LSD, but no one cared enough and he had some 'friends' who were lacing his coffee with it. i didn't know i had mental issues until age 15 when i began going through all the Big Pharma drug Guinea Pigging, and through holistic treatments and A.A., i've made what i consider a full recovery. Syd was in the time were drugs were encouraged all too much, and the Grateful Dead were only doing things like spiking a punch bowl. I wrote some short stories about it, that includes Waters and Syd i hope to get published. the Fact is, Syd had disappeared one long weekend, and when he was found again, he had become completely fried from LSD to the point they couldn't help him. it is part of the grief that Waters harnessed into The wall. find people like me who know what their talking about, but you also have to be open minded enough to see that the Big pharma game is just a dead end. i had to be ready to do it first, and haven't taken a med since 92, but there again, it was the support i had found also that got me off them. another guy was drummer Jim Gordon who never got the message, and what up in a hallucination stabbing his mom dead and then hanging himself in jail.
I was just thinking the same thing. Fired as the album was "New Miserable Experience" was beginning its slow (very slow!) ascent up the charts. He was doused in cologne and mouthwash and put on a plane back to Phoenix. He did win a gold record for "Hey Jealousy" (after he was fired). He hung it up for two weeks before taking it down and then destroying it.
@@TheBenjammin What a stupid comment. Gin Blossoms are a great sounding live band who didn't get the recognition they deserve. Hopkins had a knack for writing great, heartbreaking tunes. A lot of which mirrored his life. What great music do you sing, moron?
no, i knew there was a Genesis before Phil joined, but here again, to me what is sad is that is would of been because the guy wasn't stable enough, but that has gone on in every occupation there has been, and why something like Alcoholics Anonymous began in 1935. however, there has only been several guys i know of who had the guts and brains then to ignore the dope pushing b.s, and were successful and Randy Bachman was one of them. if you got fired from Genesis, you can be sure they were just concerned for the guys health and were trying to help him. it was why Ozzy was let go in 79.
Peter Chris partied himself out of the Kiss gig pure and simple. Then when they brought him back for their final tour his big mouth and demands for more money equal to Stanley and Simmons got him fired for a second time. He is his own worst enemy.
@@philosoraptor2285 It's not about whether or not they deserved to get booted...it is that they DID get booted and the tragedy that followed due to that.
@@guibox3 Peter Chris can't foresee the weather granted but his money woes before and after that are 100% his fault. He was offered a couple of million by Simmons and Stanley to continue the farewell tour. He declined because He wanted a bigger cut. Now understand he was booted the first time due to his own erratic behavior and drug abuse and Simmons and Stanley continued with the band keeping it alive another 20 years. This with Peter bitching to anybody who would listen it was everybody's fault but his. Then after a successful tour they wanted to extend he demanded an equal cut to continue? I'm supposed to feel sorry for that jackass? I think not.
@@philosoraptor2285 Perhaps you need to go back and read my post again. You missed the point I was making. I never said he didn't deserve getting booted...I said this video is about the FACT that they got booted and went into a spiral after the fact. Jeez, man.
You could've mentioned: Flo Ballard (The Supremes), Pete Willis(Def Leppard), Robbin Crosby(Ratt), Mike Starr(Alice in Chains). Ballard, Crosby, and Starr are all dead. We'll have to see what happens with Dave Ellefson, who recently got booted from Megadeth for a reason I won't get into.
What happened to Florence Ballard was a shame. Gordy wanted Ross to be the star, and fired Ballard. Ballard had a better voice and range than Ross by far.
Vocalist Kevin DuBrow was fired from Quiet Riot in 1987. Although he joined other bands and rejoined the original Quiet Riot for a tour in 2001, I don't think he was ever quite the same after the firing and died of a drug overdose in Las Vegas in 2007.
Fleetwood Mac were good in the 70s and 80s but none of them had the magic like Peter Green. That guy was a blues genius who played a guitar like nobody has since
@@dondrysdale7297I remember seeing a quote from someone that went something like ' the line between genius and madness is a very thin line ' and I believe that is absolutely true. Most true geniuses are at least a bit eccentric but often they go over the line at some point and become mentally ill.
@@tr7938 and why wouldnt you believe that?...just prior to him saying that they were showing a clip of the Beatles playing in Hamburg where Pete Best was NOT on his drum kit but center stage with a mic dancing and singing...so his comment made perfect sense...there was no room for any more egos in the group than there already was...your comment is baseless
Keith and Mick payed a landscaper at Brian Jones's place to see him out. Whether he physically drowned him or just didn't call for help is up for debate.
@@girlfullofsorrow They are spent, lol! I agree, Brian Jones was a core influence early on. Unfortunately, I think he was such a disfunctional alcoholic/abuser that it proved impossible to work with him in a musical context. Also, Keith and Mick gaining the favor of the public eye as a "songwriting duo" didn't help him.
Ringo is an Awesome Drummer Best was Not the Best he was the same as all the drummers of that era . Ringo's style and attitude Made them the FAB 4, Chemistry makes Iconic Bands not good drum rolls Ringo also wrote songs that are still Rock Classics, and was a Great Conductor for Thomas The Train Too.
We were at the Steel Wheels show in Los Angeles in the 90s when Guns and Rose's opened for them and the band went off on each other, stopping the set to tell the audience how angry they were, etc. These girls behind us were upset that they weren't getting along and went completely ballistic, wailing and moaning and crying....finally someone passed them some drugs, and ten minutes later they were dancing and laughing. It was really weird. Other than that, it was a great show.
@@yogijaya2897 Thanks! I saw an interview with him on a tv program about Studio 54 in the 70s, and he came across as extremely witty and intelligent. He could really see through the music business, which can be hard to do. My husband worked as a sound engineer in LA in the early 90s and I met a lot of big stars, most of whom were really worried about their album! There is nothing like a record company demanding another hit record to dry up even the most creative musician! It always seemed to me that everyone came in when they had to, screwed around as long as possible, then put in a couple hours on work, got discouraged and went out to clubs or home, and it was always close to dawn....except Prince. That tiny guy was a machine! He worked and worked and worked. He never stopped! I never saw him eat, smoke or go to the bathroom, he just wore out all the engineers. There was always someone asleep on the carpet...they worked until they collapsed. He was a gigantic success because he was talented AND he worked harder than anyone I've ever seen.
Pete Best was a terrible drummer and only latched onto the early Beatles gig because of his mother's manipulation from having a popular party place. As soon as the Beatles found a real drummer, Best was jettisoned.
Jagger and Richards actively campaigned to force Jones out using methods which today would be considered constructive dismissal. It was this that sent Jones on a downward spiral and ultimately to an untimely death which many believe to have been assisted.
The guy who killed him Frank Thorogood admitted to it right before he passed away 93. He was 1 of the construction workers at the house. He robbed and killed him supposedly.
Complete nonsense, he was a gibbering wreck who missed rehearsal and couldn't function. I got that from Charlie's mouth in an interview, I may not have believed Mick and Keith but when Charlie says how sad it was ,what became of Brian then I do believe him. Mick and Keith may have wanted him out the band BECAUSE of what he'd become, they never turned him into a wreck,it wasn't their treatment of him that made him go that way,he did it to himself the same way that Keith is to blame for his drug addiction and Ronnie for his drink and drug issues
@@davidmellish3295 BJ got in state he was in due to a lack of songwriting skills. When the idea of writing your own music was a revolutionary concept to BJ and the others. The others moved on, BJ didn't handle being a former frontman too well. From Beggars Banquet on it was Jagger/Richards.
Journey fired Steve Perry, the voice behind their biggest hits, because they got tired of waiting for him to have his hip replacement surgery so he could return. Then they hired a soundalike. Now they have another soundalike singer in Arnel Pineda and wondered why Steve wouldn't reunite and perform with them when they were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Now we know why.
I feel sorry for Steven Adler. He was a junkie that's true. But he wasn't the only one in that band. He wanted to be sober but was forced to do the recording of Civil War meanwhile he was cold turkey. Not to mention that he did this for the band as Axl had him signed a contract to get clean. He told them that he's not able to play but they didn't care. I saw him playing with a band in 92. He could perform. When you are an addict you know you are okay when you are on it. Sadly it's just how you feel normal. Axl wanted him out of the band. Steen was the only one who dared confront him. Axl never liked him, they had ongoing fights.
@@DarkSkies72 Sad but true. I feel sorry for Axl, too. He had a terrible childhood, was deeply traumatized. He should have gone to a psychiatrist for medical help.
probs bc he shot up axl's wife when she's had no prior exp w hard drugs. but still tho...they should've given steven a chance to get clean and then rejoin them.
@@aliali-uy5pw every coin has two sides. According to Adler Axl's wife turned up on his doorstep with a friend and they were already high. They were demanding more drugs from him meanwhile Adler tried to talk down them from taking more.
Another musician they failed to mention was Brad Delp who was the original lead singer for the band Boston. He committed suicide after leaving the band. It was speculated that internal tensions with in the band lead to his mental demise.
Agreed. Adlers push/pull and swing was a huge part of their sound and why appetite was so great. They were superhuman as a unit and very very average without him
thanks Sara, yes, certainly sad. if you have never seen the movie The Wall, it was Roger waters pouring all hid grief into it, which included Syd, of course, as well as his anger at his at Germany tyranny that took his father's life in the war, as well as countless others of course. that's what true artists do, and i do think roger has been one of out greatest.
You left out Ozzy Osbourne. He was fired from the band Black Sabbath in 1978 and spent 1979 and 1980 in a world of heavy drug use, just lots and lots of it. His 1980 track, "Crazy Train" was about his heavy drug use period and introduced to the world his lead guitarist who always steals the show with his licks, Randy Rhodes. (Of course, Randy was never fired. He flew a plane and crashed. His last track he recorded with Ozzy was, crazy enough, "Flying High Again".)
Well Brian is seen coming up with the riff that became the signature and catch of the song , you can see that Keith isn’t giving Mick the sound he was looking for in the rhythm guitar and Brian comes up with what Mick wanted so as little anyone thought he put forth in that song Brian Jones gave the signature rhythm that became the song with Kieth adding solos !
I thought Steve Perry was added to Journey after they were already running awhile, and they were trying to be more of a metal band. They never set out to be a pop band. But Steve Perry got them instant traction. So if pop pays the bills and feeds your kids, run with it.
Just listen to the stuff Best recorded with The Beatles and it's obvious why he was sacked. He could barely keep even a simple beat going for more than a few seconds at a time. George Martin told them Best couldn't possibly be on any records they'd make, so a session drummer would have to be used. Best had only been hired because the band had been booked to play many shows in Hamburg, so they needed someone who owned his own kit, and who could leave for Germany in only a couple of days. There's really no mystery here. Even after several decades, Best just can't accept that he was not a very competent drummer.
I swear I heard on the "Behind the Music" episode of GnR that Adler had a cocaine overdose after he was fired that led to him having a severe stroke that affected his speech.
@@christineparis5607 The drugs may have normalized him. Or it made him feel normal because he was finally experiencing the same things as everyone around him. We cannot discount the need for shared experience. Even with people who seem to be outside the norm.
That's a super tall claim to make. So many others from the same era were also tip-top. Paul Rogers, Chris Cornell, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Freddie Mercury, Mick Jagger, Axl Rose and many others could all blow him away. No disrespect to Steve Perry at all, but there are other superthroats out there besides him
You know it’s your choice to agree or disagree. I don’t find it odd that someone may think another person might be better. At this point though when you could have said I think so and so is better you’re choosing to be a jackass!!!
@@marguskiis7711 Your talking about Jonesy at the end of his run w/ the Stones, when he couldn't even shake a tambourine. But I defy you to listen to their early stuff like Red Rooster, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Paint It Black, etc, and not marvel at Jones eclectic style of lead playing in his prime. Obviously Richards is the riff master behind all those songs, but in my opinion, the best lead guitar Stones ever had was with the Mick Taylor era, hands down.
That beatles drummer who got pushed out in the beginning can you imagine how depressing it would be for the rest of your life telling the story how i kinda almost was a beatle , especially during the beatle's heyday
Steve Perry was Journey and I hated the bands sound without him.Neil now trying to get him to do a reunion, like nothing happened,yeah never gonna happen Neil as Steve P told you to shove it.
Pere Best was a mediocre drummer thats why he was sacked. He is luckiest mediocre drummer in the world remaining in history and getting large sum of money after Anthology.
@@LegaliseShemp Ringo is a brilliant drummer. Period. Image/marketing??? Best looked times better than Ringo. Holding him would have meant stressing on image. OK, I know, all the image/marketing bullshit came from Mona Best who lamented a lot about the sacking of his son.
Thank you for including the helpline/advice numbers at the end of this video. It is so shocking and sad how rarely these are mentioned, with the videos uploaded purely for $ and views. What a nice, refreshing change. Well done. Subbed due to this fact in large part.
Berry Gordy's artist were extremely Young... Some of their tragic lifestyles became the death of many talented Singers,The sounds of Motown can never be duplicated 💔
I don't understand why everybody try to make excuses for drugs that it's okay, this just proves that drugs can kill the most brilliant and creative minds and artists.
Steve Perry experienced life after they fired him he fell in love with a great woman sadly he did lose her his life is not tragic because he got fired it was their loss not his
How do you leave out Adler actually suffering a stroke after injecting copius amounts of cocaine resulting in years of rehabilitation, BEFORE reaching Dr.Drew. ?
I want to mention Ingo "Mr. Smile" Schwictenberg of Helloween. He was struggling with depressions, and when the direction of the band made him miserable, he got a drug problem. It lead to the band was forced to fire him. In 1995 he jumped in front of a train 😔😢🥺
Wait, Noel Gallagher is difficult to deal with?
Shocked 😳
The Gallagher brothers had always been difficult to deal with even before Oasis.
Any member of GNR judging each other is rediculous.
That was my first thought.
Think about it from a different angle. I've always thought that if you are sitting in a room with those guys and they are looking at you going "ya might wanna dial it back some on the drugs...." how overboard are you going ya know?
@@danimal097521 He was known as Steven Addled.......
I got kicked out of my first band for smoking weed...
@@BennieTarrMusic As far as rock bands are concerned, that's like getting thrown out of the band for breathing.
When a guy walks in to the recording studio while the band is recording, and they don't recognize him as their former band mate, that is when you know that he has really fallen off the edge,
Rest in Peace Syd Barrett.
"Wish You Were Here"
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fallen of the edge? he got completely fried from LSD during one long weekend he had disappeared, and some 'freinds' who were lacing his coffe with it didn't help
Syd Barret had become unable to compose and play because of drug abuse, this is why David Gilmour was asked to replace him.
Yeah LSD fucked me up too. I ended up in a psyche ward drugged to the max with Haldol and Thorazine.
Sorry but I've heard Beatle tracks that included Pete Best, and as John Lennon later said, he was a lousy drummer. Producer George Martin certainly wasn't shy about his deficiencies; it's the reason he had arranged studio drummer Andy White to play on the Beatles' first recordings.
EMI likely wouldn't have signed them with him on drums.
So, his claim to fame is to have been a former Beatle.
Yup…. He couldn’t even play Love MeDo without F ing it up….Could you imagine Pete playing on She Loves You or Ticket to Ride?
You are right.
@@X9523-z3v They are. I play guitar and bass but I can’t play drums to save my arse. And there’s no place to hide a bad drummer. I’ve literally seen bands transform when a different drummer sat in and in fact Paul told a story much like that at Ringos r&rhof induction
When I played out fronting blues trios and quartets, I learned quickly to find the best drummers and pay them accordingly, it was always worth it. It got me on the radio and them.
A weak bass player could be carried by a strong drummer not the other way around. When I paid for a strong rhythm section my job was infinitely easier.
The reason Best was let go is because he wasn’t very good. Just listen to the Decca auditions. Listen, he seems like a nice guy and is a good barroom band kind of drummer, but Ringo was just so much better as history has shown. There’s no kind way to sack someone from their job.
People tend to forget that Paul McCartney is also a pretty decent drummer. He played drums on some of the White Album songs during a period when Ringo left the band for a while. He didn't like Best's drumming at all.
@@drdan75 Paul is an all around kind of musician he has played the piano rather well , his guitar , his drumming . Also some say while doing all that he was also a spy , he was a very busy guy for a while . okay fair enough the spy bit , no one really knows , but he was still very busy either way . lol.
@@timc333 Paul was a spy too? Was that when he was dead?
@@michelesmith2620 Well aren't you just a lovely ball of yarn !
@@timc333 He looks suspiciously like Angela Lansbury. Plus, he lied about John Lennon breaking up the Beatles. They all quit to get away from him.
"Bothered by a lack of preferential treatment for myself".... I'm going to use that line the next time I ask my boss for a raise!
Also missing the part where Scott Weiland was also booted from Velvet Revolver.
Loved STP and Velvet Revolver...Weiland was an incredible singer and performer! He would BURST onto the stage!
@@katherineskrzynecki3347 Me too, loved them both!! He had a great sound.
Scott Weiland’s son got kicked out of the band he was in with Slash’s kid and a few other musicians kids. I am not saying he has the same problems, but he got kicked out of the band.
He was a big time talent.
I remember when my brats used to call him 'Cracky McHeroin.'
And that's why I only listened to Journey songs with Steve Perry alone😢😢😢
Amen
*Mii too Mii too!*
Steve Perry IS Journey IMO.
Exactly😂😂😂
Same here
You forgot Charles Manson he thought he was gonna be a Beach Boy.
And Jon Stamos was/is in the Beach Boys?
@@shatner99 you mean like the wrecking crew?
@@philsaggitariusa3738 Stamos is too young to have been involved with the Wrecking Crew, but he has performed live with the Beach Boys a number of times. With so many side projects, his house was pretty full.
lol
He wrote a song called "Ceased To Exist" in which Dennis Wilson renamed it as "Never Learn Not To Love" for the 20/20 album.
You know you are in trouble when The Rolling Stones tell you, you have a drug problem. 😶
Yeah the problem was not sharing the drugs!
Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@justicenow1234 That's too damn funny isn't it Justice? Lmao!
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I'd say the same about G'NR and Adler. Been saying that for years. I mean when Slash is like "hey man you need to lay off the smack...." LOL
Steve Perry is Journey and will always be. He could not help his issues.
And how dare he have hip replacement! I bet he even felt better after he got his new hip! 😲
Ariel Pineda is younger & now sounds better than Steve,live.Journey made millions in concert revenues during Steve's hiatus.
I liked them better when they were a prog band.
@@MrSpankee02 Hey Sean, how much do you wanna bet that there is a load of Journey "fans" that love "Open Arms" and have no idea that they started as a prog band and have no idea who Gregg Rollie is? And as far is the Steve era goes, "Infinity" has always been my favorite album from that time period!
@@larrycoker8093 Neal Schone played Woodstock when he was 15. Wow!
Flo Ballard. Her firing from the Supremes, her descent into poverty and her untimely death.
She was so beautiful. What happened to her is absolutely tragic.
RIP FLO 🙏
Hellywood is full of corruption and Bias
Flo? She didn't know, Because the boy she loved was a "Romeo".
Sad thing was that she was working on a comeback before she passed on.....
How about Badfinger??their manager effed them out of millions then 2 band members were found hung within a couple yrs.great group!
Yeah, now THAT was sad!
Badfinger ..Legends
So true. That was an awful story. So many bands back then got their money stolen, never to be gotten back. I never sign anything without reading the whole thing. Cheaper than hiring lawyers to try and get it back later!
@@agoogleuser4443 have u bought a new car recently?? Lol, bring an attorney.
Yes. I immediately thought of Badfinger here. Now that's a tragic story! So is Michael Hutchence's death and the death of Steve Marriott.
Didn't realize so many of these iconic bands were so backstabby
Sad but true bro.
Most bands are “back stabby”.
Just watch the show Breaking the Band and you'll see just how awful they can be to each other. Fleetwood Mac was way more ugly than I realized. They really tore each other to shreds!
It's a business.
Rowing teams kick off people who don't show up, do heavy drugs and don't contribute or claim they're the best when they're not, too. Back stabbing has nothing to do with it.
Drugs and Alcohol always makes things worse. Always!!!!!!!!!
Only when you let it in.
I remember Steve Adler did a little drumming spot at an old age home or something on celebrity rehab. The sound was incredible. A huge, rock solid sound that could not be hidden,no matter how obscure the event.
Did their false teeth fall out?
Steve Adler was a sad case.
RIP Syd Barrett. The most beautiful man ever to walk planet Earth.
So is Barrett Avenue in
El Cerrito, Ca. Goes rite
Up the hill to the Lake..
I'm still stinging from Weiland. 😣
The story of Pete Best is well recorded. The general opinion is that he just could not keep time.
99.99999% of people will be unable to tell . Only tedious musos who worship the click
@@musheopeaus4125 Really , Pete was horrible , I had heard some rare outtakes from studio recording sessions where Pete was way off count , and it is very subtle in short versus , but after several versus into the song he would be more than 2or 3 beats off , even my ear (I am not a drummer at all) could clearly tell and it sounded very odd and off , he really couldn't drum back then .
@@timc333 Pete wasn't at his best.
If he was worse than Starr then he must have been shite
@@stevegarth6902 he wasn’t that bad but they didn’t like him. He was better than ringo
The departure of Mike Starr from Alice In Chains was sad, he had a lot of drug issues and would often cause trouble on tour.
He was on a season of celebrity rehab, where he expressed his regret about his last encounter of Layne Staley. Sadly, he could not get sober and passed away in 2011
Yeah. AIC with the look alike replacement bassist (especially on Unplugged) just made you want Starr there all the more.
@@pewsterbaby I don’t know, I think Inez’s more melodic bass parts are a great counter for the abrasive guitar parts. If you look at them from a distance, they kind of look similar, but their styles are different, along with Mike being from the Philippines
super sad when he died. he's another one that seemed to be trying so hard to get it together.
ringo was one of the most rock solid drummers in the business as far as keeping perfect time in odd signatures.
He's still going, and his son plays for The Who.
Just bought his new CD "What's My Name" It is filled with great sounding drum beats, rolls etc... Worth its price anyways just because it's Ringo.
Your deluded mate
@@williamwhitman4889 who's drumming on it
@@stevegarth6902 R-I-N-G-O
The firing of Pete Best became very clear in the documentary "Best of the Beatles" I think or mbe another: Pete's booming narrow constant drum approach was good for '50's Rock & popular in Liverpool's Cavern, but that left no room for Paul's melodic bass runs. No space or variation. Whereas Ringo listens, opens space and interacts with Paul and John and George. Plus, rock solid timing and easy going. =The drummer the band needed.
Ringo seemed to effortlessly come up with exactly what each song needed, sometimes right on the spot.
@@fenderstratguy Yes, well articulated. It'd be hard to say anyone in the Beatles is underrated. But for Ringo, he often is. 'What's best for the song' was their unspoken mantra. The Beatles became more than the sum of their parts.
John stated once: 'we were moving, making progress, he would come late, if ever, to rehearsals and ever was but the same all along. At the end he could not play studio, we needed a session-drummer to take his place, whereas with Ringo..' A very common story among 'taking-off' rock bands. The lazy one quitting on the last step (a very common feature actually, The Police has a similar story, and others too, any discipline involved: people tend to resign just before they would achieve, a slight difference in mindset for great consequences).
Also Ringo was a close friend with George, and so having him in the band would be balancing with a reinforced George, considering the 2 ogres standing plain front.. George estranged from his friend may have become a misery, lonely and sad.. not a beatles' storytelling, no way.
Pete Best really bears a face expressing permanent failure, he is pathetic. This guy never recovered.
yes, good bands that know what they are doing look for what and who they need at the time, and another example was the changes Deep Purple also went through at the time. Best just wasn't meant to stay in it, and it also had to do with Ringo's general charisma.
You didn't mention Paul Williams of the Temptations, he never recovered after the group let him go and died by suicide from a gunshot to his head. That story made me really sad, cause he was an important voice to the group and so loved.
He wasn't really booted from the group, he left because because he became ill due to his drinking problem. It probably would have happened anyway, though, because there were times he was so bad that he couldn't perform.
@@averythecoolcat from the movie, I had thought they wouldn't let him back in the group, but your right, if he had been well again, he would of been still in the group, I love the temptations, one of my favorite groups, and I miss all of them that passed, Melvin ( Blue) was my favorite.
August, 1973 I remember when that happened. Tragic !
It was sad😢
He was an alcoholic and could not stop. Have seen this for many years in the Brutal music machine.
Without Perry Journey is a joke.
Honestly that guy they got to replace him sounds just as good. It’s not like they’ve been relevant in the past 20 years
They are a joke with or without Perry.
They were the best before Perry joined.
@@samueluhliar3604 Agreed.
Steve was NOT fired .... he quit!!
The band never was the same.
Regarding Syd Barrett, I believe Pink Floyd continued to admire if not revere him, despite their inability to work with him. I'm saying that, because the inspiration behind songs like "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" was Syd Barrett.
I was looking for this. They loved him. Every time I hear that song it makes me emotional. You can feel their pain.
There's a great documentary here on Sydney Barrett which explains... even the wall is on his descent ....some good videos w Syd here and you see he was and always will be pink floyd
Roger Waters not the whole band.
thanks, ya exactly. Waters didn't want to do it, but he had no choice but start taking more of Syd's parts over, and i just said to someone that in the case of Brian Jones, Jagger and Richards just kind of ignored and walked over him. it was similar stories, but Floyd were humane enough that they didn't even want to continue on with what was Syd's vision to begin with, and it was much to do with why Roger snapped in 77 and spit on a fan. during Dark Side recordings when the money really began rolling in, is when he began feeling guilt about it, and that along with his other personal grieving all came out in The wall. i wrote a short story about it i hope to get published with my other collections.
Best was fired because he was a terrible drummer, and a mardarse.
He did an interview when the Beatles hit the big time, moaning about being sacked, he had his mother with him who did all the talking.
What's a mardarse?
I wonder why he was never given other job offer from bands to perform instead of giving them to Phil Collins?
yes, and meanwhile Stuart Stuart Sutland got murdered just for being alive.
@@lynneufeld3175 a big baby.
Two things.
1. According to the Beatles Anthology (a collection of interviews of the band members in there later years recalling their time together) Best was let go because of his drinking and not showing up for performances. Ringo (who was in another band at the time) Was hired anytime Best wouldn't show up. They it got to the point where they just asked Ringo to be the drummer and said good bye to Best.
2. I just think it was worth mentioning that, yes, Barret had mental issues before getting into drugs, but the craziness really steamed from the fact that the people he was living with were giving his LSD WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEGE. Knowing taking a drug like that can sometimes really mess you up, but doing it without knowing will really screw you up and make you feel more crazy then you are.
John Lennon said in an interview that Pete Best just "wasn't a Beatle." He didn't fit in and wasn't friendly with the rest of the band. Paul has said similar things, and Brian Epstein didn't like his drumming style very much or his standoffish personality. None of them ever mentioned a drinking problem or not showing up to shows as far as I ever heard.
As far as Syd Barret is concerned, I find it extremely difficult to believe that he was dosed with LSD on a regular basis without his knowledge. I don't buy it. It was a well-known fact that Syd liked drugs way too much.
@@gardenofeels6872 also, his hair would not accept a Beatle haircut. They were brutal to him….they made Brian fire him. John could control Epstein easily
Syd Barrett and The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson thought that drugs could expand the mind, part of the myth of 1960s drug counter culture. Sadly, it backfired and both retreated in a world of isolation, though Brian Wilson would return back, well sort of.
Thank you for this. Reiland and Barret are heartbreaking. 💔
The band wasn't happy about letting Barret go either like alot of people on this list. Shine on you Crazy Diamond was their tribute to Syd. They knew they had to do it for the band but they still cared for their friend.
Edit: almost forgot, the last time they seen Syd was when he unexpectedly showed up during the recording of Wish You Were Here- the same album they wrote Shine on you Crazy Diamond
Syd Barret had schizophrenia and all that LSD use really brought on the symptoms of his schizophrenia. Pink Floyd didn't kick him out of the band to be dicks. His behavior became so erratic and he started not even playing his guitar during performances and wouldn't talk during an interview just a blank stare. The band still paid homages to him over the years with songs like Shine On You Crazy Diamond, and the album The Wall. He still received some royalties so in Syd Barret's case the band did not do him wrong.
Didn't Syd also design the artwork on most of their albums?
David Gilmour took care Syd got his royalty's, David is a gentleman rock star.
“Schizophrenia” is an mk ultra derived vocabulary word. What Syd was experiencing was an overactive crown chakra due to the use of hallucinogenics.
@@boxlid214 I'm pretty sure that Storm Thorgerson at Hipgnosis did that, aside from The Wall.
yes, taking LSD while having schizophrenia is beyond crazy, and that can cause drug induced neurosis itself which had happened to me, just by becoming to dependent on it. i think Keith Moon had schizophrenia too, but he was just a big boozer mainly, which also doesn't help because it's a depressive.
So let me get this straight, Keith Richards had an issue with another guy in the band taking drugs? Wtf is that all about?
Ikr? Totally sounds fishy and not even really believable in fact...
It’s a known fact Keith Richards could hold a lot of Booze and Drugs!
Some people can’t !
If you read his autobiography, it was less that he was taking the drugs more that it was making him erratic. Also according to Keith he was abusive to Anita Pallenberg who was his then girlfriend who eventually cheated on him with and eventually left him for Keith.
Wrong drugs? Smh..
Keith Richards could party all night long and still play perfectly at a concert the next day and he's still doing it decades later.
It's amazing the things you find out about a group or singer behind the scenes
well that's why we should always seek out reliable sources of information about them, as opposed to the horrendous mediocracy and mis-information that wound up in the covid madness of the last two years. i didn't know enough about Syd Barret in the 19890s to the point the stories i heard about him them made me crap my pants because of my own mental problems then, in which some of Floyd's grief was harnessed into The Wall. i'll tell you something else--both Waters in The Wall movie, and Peter Gabriel in his Shock the Monkey video from the 80s also, had did the Scull and Crossbones 'salute'(crossing their arms over chest that way), which was trying to warn people of the secret society plans in which the covid madness was the latest attempt at tyranny. you should really see The Wall movie if you haven't. it has been nothing to with so-called covid, it was part of an agenda attempt and very Nazi-like in some ways.
I feel so bad for Stephen Adler. I know using is your own demon but he's tried so many times to be clean. He actually put out his own solo album... Adler.. and it's pretty damn good! I purchased it myself. I just feel we should not drown o those with demons and punish them but to stand beside them and help them out. Be a true friend.
@takesone2knowone So sorry to hear that. I wish people were more compassionate and caring than mean and ugly. Keep your head held high and don't let people know that they are hurting you. 👍
@takesone2knowone That's so true. I was a user starting at 13 until 27 when I became pregnant. The drugs and pregnancy left me out in the cold except for y Grandmother and Grandfather. They never judged me. When I turned 40 I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. There's no cure. So now I'm back on strong opioids and I'm addicted because if I don't have my medicines I'll die from withdrawal because I' ve been on them so long. All of my friends dumped me when I got sick. Sometimes I think the loneliness hurts worse than the disease. Keep your head up because you know who you are and they are the ones missing out on a relationship with a great person! 👍
@takesone2knowone It's tough having these demons. I tend to think that we use to shut them up in our head because they are always taunting us about everything so we use just to get some peace. They shut up. It doesn't make you a bad person and this is all what people who judge us don't understand. If they'd just put their personal feelings and ideologies aside for 5 mins and just really listen to what I explained, then they just might not be so critical and help instead of cursifing. Please hang in there and know you're not alone😊
@takesone2knowoneI totally understand. My mind never shuts off. It drives me insane, literally insane. It's ok to not give 2 shits about the people in your life but remember You Are A Good Person and DON'T let anyone take that from you! Tell yourself... I am a good person. Please do that for me
@takesone2knowone I just want you to know that I understand and I am here for you. Please don't give up. If you give up then all of the people who don't understand you and treat you badly, they win. YOU HAVE TO WIN BY NOT GIVING UP. 👍
I can't believe the audacity of a band to fire STEVE PERRY and then hire a sound alike. That's like throwing out the Hope diamond for costume jewelry 😳
Agreed! When Perry was thrown out, the band was dead to me!
They still made millions on concert tours. They didn't need Perry for that.
Don Dokken once said in an interview that they come for the hits even if it’s not all original.
@@lorigirl65 Same! Dead to me without SP.
The00Lisa00, Well said!!
I remember Steve Perry in the 80’s for his song, Oh Sherry.
About his girlfriend at the time.
That was my favorite song, as a 5 year old 😂 however it’s still a catchy and nostalgic tune imo!
Sherry is Steve's solo work .
Check him out in Journey, hit after hit.
Yes that song,love him
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Thankfully for Pete Best, he hung in there thru the years after being fired and finally received the recognition and the compensation he deserved for being there thru The Beatles formative years. In 1995 with the release of the Anthology 1 double CD, Best was paid royalties for his appearance on those early songs. The amount was undisclosed but believed to be a 7-figure amount that he was paid by EMI. He finally saw his mega pay day
Not deserved just lucky
@@kerryberry5786 he went through a lot with the Beatles in Hamburg and Liverpool.
@@kerryberry5786 if he put in the work on those tracks, then he deserved to be compensated for it
well he was just lucky enough to--even Neil Young didn't get paid as nearly as much as he should of back in the 60s, and Rick Emmet was another case were he quit Triumph because he didn't get paid. it was always kind of a sleazy business, and why Zappa started the first 'indie label' in 78--wasn't a guy who take getting screwed by anyone.
@@eldiablo8580 paying dues in the club scene for a few months doesn't mean you deserve millions of dollars .
Sid didn't join Pink Floyd. He's a co-founder.
Thank you, I was hoping somebody would point this out.
yes, that's why Floyd felt so guilty when they decided to continue on and the big money started coming. the grief wound up with waters spitting on a fan in 77, and so he harnessed it all into The Wall.
Lost his leadership lost his girl to Keith then seeing her at rehearsals then kicked out of band he started..no Jones no stones
Thank you my pal!!! The Stones have tried so hard to write Brian out of their history and downplay his importance, and I’ve had god only knows how many ‘Stones’ fans tear me down for saying exactly what you have just said. It’s really great to stumble across somebody else from Brian’s camp.
Mary Anne Faithful's description of Jones wasnt very pleasant.
I felt so bad for Brian Jones. His death caused a chain reaction of another near death. Marianne Faithfull who felt horrible for Brian but she felt Mick and Keith didnt care. She swallowed a whole bunch of drugs. She lived after that.
@@icebergrose8955 Her description may have been tough but accurate.
@@dollydagger4306 but she really didn’t live for a while after that. She chose oblivion, her heroin habit had her living on the streets for 2 years and she lost custody of her son. She is a survivor tho, no doubt about it. I think I played the grooves off Broken English back in the day.
"I'm sorry i can't speak very coherently. It's rather difficult to think of anybody being really interested in me. But you know...I am totally together." Syd's words really broke my heart,i feel the same. I also deal with mental illness and people's lack of comprehension,i know how tough it is.
Hold on amiga, keep your line, dedicate yourself to what and who you love. Here is a clue. The root for madness always points to ego. This particular parasite, ego, is very wrongly addressed in western culture, where publicity incites you, consciously or unconsciously, to emphasize and constantly gratify it. See everybody running after his/her 'pleasure time.' Brag on position and power. A society promoting cheaters, deceivers, or brutal people and sell it as an advanced system.. I absolute better be labeled insane but a regular dude in the damned ship of fools some are running, alongside global passive consent..
Here is some advice taken from experience. I do not work in the field but have often had to deal with crazy friends, (so are my acquaintances, mom always complained about..) and a few time happened to be helpful with 'how i understand.'
The best of the fools are the artists, the only ones capable of finding useful craziness. But only to the angle they need basic quietness/happiness to create, and so struggle to get there. Creation then becomes a way to stabilize a state of being. At least for some significant while. Nobody ever created anything intelligible/sensible with madness urging inside, this is a common misconception people have. Dont know your age but if you are still in age of orienting consider.
If you have no skills never too late to grasp any. Every difficult stuff you swallow is the mere sum of many little easy plays you gradually explore. (I think Confucius said this, or Lao Zee, don't remember.) Reading old wise books is also a great therapy. Everything at the end of the day is mere putting things in order in your head. This as man's chief function: run amid chaos to pick up wasted stuff and transform it pure organized gold. (This as a metaphor anything you care about can be applied to.)
And don't forget. The culprit niches in the ego, often is a subconsciously embedded annoyance having something to do with childhood brainwashing. The cure is to unplug or short-circuit these social chains that are coercitive conventions. The task takes a whole life, but at least that gives a man/woman something to do.
Have a good trip. :-). the fool is inspiration in this world, be it.
ps. Psychiatrists are better when they acknowledge knowing nothing. The more they are rigidly certain, the more they are in the error. A few are really good, but many are dangerous crap. Choose ya well if need be.
Hang in there please 🙏...
How are you doing Mia?
Oh God... she's obviously looking for a pity party and some attention
i actually went through hell with The Wall album while my own mental illness was at it's peak in the 1980s. it had something to do with that i kept hearing stories about Syd then, and kept wondering, "oh fuck, is that happening to me too!" it was long before i understood enough about Syd, who in fact was also extremely addicted to LSD, but no one cared enough and he had some 'friends' who were lacing his coffee with it. i didn't know i had mental issues until age 15 when i began going through all the Big Pharma drug Guinea Pigging, and through holistic treatments and A.A., i've made what i consider a full recovery. Syd was in the time were drugs were encouraged all too much, and the Grateful Dead were only doing things like spiking a punch bowl. I wrote some short stories about it, that includes Waters and Syd i hope to get published. the Fact is, Syd had disappeared one long weekend, and when he was found again, he had become completely fried from LSD to the point they couldn't help him. it is part of the grief that Waters harnessed into The wall. find people like me who know what their talking about, but you also have to be open minded enough to see that the Big pharma game is just a dead end. i had to be ready to do it first, and haven't taken a med since 92, but there again, it was the support i had found also that got me off them. another guy was drummer Jim Gordon who never got the message, and what up in a hallucination stabbing his mom dead and then hanging himself in jail.
Doug Hopkins from Gin Blossoms is a really sad story too
I was just thinking the same thing. Fired as the album was "New Miserable Experience" was beginning its slow (very slow!) ascent up the charts. He was doused in cologne and mouthwash and put on a plane back to Phoenix. He did win a gold record for "Hey Jealousy" (after he was fired). He hung it up for two weeks before taking it down and then destroying it.
True, he got a raw deal imo regarding royalties and such
The only thing sad about the gin blossoms is that we had to hearctheir music on the radio.
@@TheBenjammin What a stupid comment. Gin Blossoms are a great sounding live band who didn't get the recognition they deserve. Hopkins had a knack for writing great, heartbreaking tunes. A lot of which mirrored his life. What great music do you sing, moron?
Not many know about him - but the story of drummer John Mayhew, who was fired from Genesis in 1970, is also pretty sad
no, i knew there was a Genesis before Phil joined, but here again, to me what is sad is that is would of been because the guy wasn't stable enough, but that has gone on in every occupation there has been, and why something like Alcoholics Anonymous began in 1935. however, there has only been several guys i know of who had the guts and brains then to ignore the dope pushing b.s, and were successful and Randy Bachman was one of them. if you got fired from Genesis, you can be sure they were just concerned for the guys health and were trying to help him. it was why Ozzy was let go in 79.
Scott Wieland. Was. Stp. Excellent singer. Excellent. Showman
He had an amazing voice for stp. It's a shame he couldn't get himself straight.
I fully agree. RIP to both him and Chester 🙏🎤🎶🎤
He had red hair when he did "Plush". Wished he kept it that way.
We can't go without mentioning peter Chris from KISS. He almost committed suicide and also lost his whole apartment from a major weather.
Peter Chris partied himself out of the Kiss gig pure and simple. Then when they brought him back for their final tour his big mouth and demands for more money equal to Stanley and Simmons got him fired for a second time. He is his own worst enemy.
@@philosoraptor2285 true but history is history and what I said happened.
@@philosoraptor2285 It's not about whether or not they deserved to get booted...it is that they DID get booted and the tragedy that followed due to that.
@@guibox3 Peter Chris can't foresee the weather granted but his money woes before and after that are 100% his fault. He was offered a couple of million by Simmons and Stanley to continue the farewell tour. He declined because He wanted a bigger cut. Now understand he was booted the first time due to his own erratic behavior and drug abuse and Simmons and Stanley continued with the band keeping it alive another 20 years. This with Peter bitching to anybody who would listen it was everybody's fault but his. Then after a successful tour they wanted to extend he demanded an equal cut to continue? I'm supposed to feel sorry for that jackass? I think not.
@@philosoraptor2285 Perhaps you need to go back and read my post again. You missed the point I was making. I never said he didn't deserve getting booted...I said this video is about the FACT that they got booted and went into a spiral after the fact. Jeez, man.
You could've mentioned: Flo Ballard (The Supremes), Pete Willis(Def Leppard), Robbin Crosby(Ratt), Mike Starr(Alice in Chains). Ballard, Crosby, and Starr are all dead. We'll have to see what happens with Dave Ellefson, who recently got booted from Megadeth for a reason I won't get into.
How 'bout Doug Hopkins of Gin Blossoms?
@@BassPlayerSusan had to look him up. Pretty tragic.
@@BassPlayerSusan : Hopkins was a depressed drug addict when he was un the band. Nothing would have changed for him when the band became famous.
Excellent mini doco on you tube on Robbin Crosby
What happened to Florence Ballard was a shame. Gordy wanted Ross to be the star, and fired Ballard. Ballard had a better voice and range than Ross by far.
Vocalist Kevin DuBrow was fired from Quiet Riot in 1987. Although he joined other bands and rejoined the original Quiet Riot for a tour in 2001, I don't think he was ever quite the same after the firing and died of a drug overdose in Las Vegas in 2007.
Fleetwood Mac were good in the 70s and 80s but none of them had the magic like Peter Green. That guy was a blues genius who played a guitar like nobody has since
ya, thanks--unfortunately so many genius were troubled.
@@dondrysdale7297I remember seeing a quote from someone that went something like ' the line between genius and madness is a very thin line ' and I believe that is absolutely true. Most true geniuses are at least a bit eccentric but often they go over the line at some point and become mentally ill.
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We know why Pete was fired. Ringo was better.
Journey? 1st to create a power ballad?
Nah, man. Go back. Freebird. Stairway to Heaven. Those were before Journey had cut their teeth.
You said it My Man.
What???? Those aren’t power ballads….. there great songs and definitely historic. I love those songs but not power ballads at all.
Freebird and Stairway are not power ballads. It was REO Speedway who made the power ballad.
It’s debatable. I’ve heard a lot of people call the Carpenters’ Goodbye To Love the first power ballad
Free bird and Stairway to heaven are not power ballads.
As per a quote from John Lennon himself- "Pete Best was a great Drummer, Ringo Starr was a better Beatle"........
@@tr7938 and why wouldnt you believe that?...just prior to him saying that they were showing a clip of the Beatles playing in Hamburg where Pete Best was NOT on his drum kit but center stage with a mic dancing and singing...so his comment made perfect sense...there was no room for any more egos in the group than there already was...your comment is baseless
Thats a bit back handed John
John said best was a lousy drummer
Ringo Starr was already known and I think best got bumped out so George Paul and john would get a better chance at a record deal
Only a Beatle who claims their music is better than Jesus would mention that.
Keith and Mick payed a landscaper at Brian Jones's place to see him out. Whether he physically drowned him or just didn't call for help is up for debate.
they are disgusting,without bri they would never be there where they are now!
@@girlfullofsorrow They are spent, lol! I agree, Brian Jones was a core influence early on. Unfortunately, I think he was such a disfunctional alcoholic/abuser that it proved impossible to work with him in a musical context. Also, Keith and Mick gaining the favor of the public eye as a "songwriting duo" didn't help him.
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@@suzycreamcheesez4371 Dude, I was JUST asking a friend of mine about that correct spelling, lol! Yeah, you're right.
@@CT-Records they was really mean to him and bullied him, they are just ungrateful, spoiled brats. And they have take drugs too
Ringo is an Awesome Drummer Best was Not the Best he was the same as all the drummers of that era . Ringo's style and attitude Made them the FAB 4, Chemistry makes Iconic Bands not good drum rolls Ringo also wrote songs that are still Rock Classics, and was a Great Conductor for Thomas The Train Too.
We were at the Steel Wheels show in Los Angeles in the 90s when Guns and Rose's opened for them and the band went off on each other, stopping the set to tell the audience how angry they were, etc. These girls behind us were upset that they weren't getting along and went completely ballistic, wailing and moaning and crying....finally someone passed them some drugs, and ten minutes later they were dancing and laughing. It was really weird. Other than that, it was a great show.
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Great story....
I love Steve Adler...
His book called "Appetite for MY Destruction" is the most inspiring recovery story I've ever read.
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Thank you! I'm looking up the book right now!
@@christineparis5607 Nile Rodgers from Chic also has a great well written story which was a super tearjerker
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Thanks! I saw an interview with him on a tv program about Studio 54 in the 70s, and he came across as extremely witty and intelligent. He could really see through the music business, which can be hard to do. My husband worked as a sound engineer in LA in the early 90s and I met a lot of big stars, most of whom were really worried about their album! There is nothing like a record company demanding another hit record to dry up even the most creative musician! It always seemed to me that everyone came in when they had to, screwed around as long as possible, then put in a couple hours on work, got discouraged and went out to clubs or home, and it was always close to dawn....except Prince. That tiny guy was a machine! He worked and worked and worked. He never stopped! I never saw him eat, smoke or go to the bathroom, he just wore out all the engineers. There was always someone asleep on the carpet...they worked until they collapsed. He was a gigantic success because he was talented AND he worked harder than anyone I've ever seen.
Journey was my very first concert! REO Speedwagon opened. I was just a sophomore in high-school! 😆
My first concet too.. Alpine Valley ! Took guitar lessons from Kevin Cronin !
so you old as hell, huh Lori?
lol-those were the days.
@@rondaallen7211 Thats not nice....lol
That had to be one of the best memories of your life, Lori! ❤️
@@rondaallen7211 55 is old ?
Pete Best was a terrible drummer and only latched onto the early Beatles gig because of his mother's manipulation from having a popular party place. As soon as the Beatles found a real drummer, Best was jettisoned.
A Real drummer.... 🤔.
Good wishes to you.
He’s still whining about it? Shut up about it already
Jagger and Richards actively campaigned to force Jones out using methods which today would be considered constructive dismissal. It was this that sent Jones on a downward spiral and ultimately to an untimely death which many believe to have been assisted.
I cant stand them,just ungrateful disgusting brats! Poor brian...
The guy who killed him Frank Thorogood admitted to it right before he passed away 93. He was 1 of the construction workers at the house. He robbed and killed him supposedly.
After starting to write their own songs Jones didn't contribute to the band any longer. Jagger Richards was dynamite as song writers combo.
Complete nonsense, he was a gibbering wreck who missed rehearsal and couldn't function. I got that from Charlie's mouth in an interview, I may not have believed Mick and Keith but when Charlie says how sad it was ,what became of Brian then I do believe him.
Mick and Keith may have wanted him out the band BECAUSE of what he'd become, they never turned him into a wreck,it wasn't their treatment of him that made him go that way,he did it to himself the same way that Keith is to blame for his drug addiction and Ronnie for his drink and drug issues
@@davidmellish3295 BJ got in state he was in due to a lack of songwriting skills. When the idea of writing your own music was a revolutionary concept to BJ and the others. The others moved on, BJ didn't handle being a former frontman too well. From Beggars Banquet on it was Jagger/Richards.
Sadly Pete Best was fired because he wasnt a very good drummer and couldnt keep time, you can hear this on early recordings.
Journey fired Steve Perry, the voice behind their biggest hits, because they got tired of waiting for him to have his hip replacement surgery so he could return. Then they hired a soundalike. Now they have another soundalike singer in Arnel Pineda and wondered why Steve wouldn't reunite and perform with them when they were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Now we know why.
that and he can't sing.......
I feel sorry for Steven Adler. He was a junkie that's true. But he wasn't the only one in that band. He wanted to be sober but was forced to do the recording of Civil War meanwhile he was cold turkey. Not to mention that he did this for the band as Axl had him signed a contract to get clean. He told them that he's not able to play but they didn't care. I saw him playing with a band in 92. He could perform. When you are an addict you know you are okay when you are on it. Sadly it's just how you feel normal. Axl wanted him out of the band. Steen was the only one who dared confront him. Axl never liked him, they had ongoing fights.
I feel bad for Steven too Axl has a lot of chutzpah
@@DarkSkies72 Sad but true. I feel sorry for Axl, too. He had a terrible childhood, was deeply traumatized. He should have gone to a psychiatrist for medical help.
Can’t see anyone but Axl fronting GnR. BUT
He’s still a dickhead. Some things will never change.
probs bc he shot up axl's wife when she's had no prior exp w hard drugs. but still tho...they should've given steven a chance to get clean and then rejoin them.
@@aliali-uy5pw every coin has two sides. According to Adler Axl's wife turned up on his doorstep with a friend and they were already high. They were demanding more drugs from him meanwhile Adler tried to talk down them from taking more.
Another musician they failed to mention was Brad Delp who was the original lead singer for the band Boston. He committed suicide after leaving the band. It was speculated that internal tensions with in the band lead to his mental demise.
I saw a video about that. How sad! He deserved better.
That's not the reason he took his life. Do your homework.
All of their music was from a computer! They lip sync at shows!
Dude had some of the best pipes in the business.
There's alot to the story..........Scholtz was a leader for sure....and possibly abducted by aliens - with all due respect.
steven Adler was very important to the sound of Guns n’ roses. they shouldn’t have let him go. he just needed help.
Agreed. Adlers push/pull and swing was a huge part of their sound and why appetite was so great. They were superhuman as a unit and very very average without him
Theey went so bad after Matt Sorum came in.Overblown sound,orchestras,female backing singers,they morphed into Journey.
he had massive stage presence.... he made it look so fun
@@h.g7336 thats mostly because Axl thought he had become Freddy Murcury or John Lennon
If you worked for Axl Rose, you don't have a choice.
I don't know what the monetary number is of the biggest lottery winner in history, but whatever it is, Ringo has them beat.
750k for no future royalties....hell noo!!!!
Syd’s story has always gotten to me
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thanks Sara, yes, certainly sad. if you have never seen the movie The Wall, it was Roger waters pouring all hid grief into it, which included Syd, of course, as well as his anger at his at Germany tyranny that took his father's life in the war, as well as countless others of course. that's what true artists do, and i do think roger has been one of out greatest.
You left out Ozzy Osbourne. He was fired from the band Black Sabbath in 1978 and spent 1979 and 1980 in a world of heavy drug use, just lots and lots of it. His 1980 track, "Crazy Train" was about his heavy drug use period and introduced to the world his lead guitarist who always steals the show with his licks, Randy Rhodes. (Of course, Randy was never fired. He flew a plane and crashed. His last track he recorded with Ozzy was, crazy enough, "Flying High Again".)
yes, but it is a case where the band was just concerned for him and wanted to see him get help. Sharron accused Sabbath of just being malicious.
Getting fired from the band Black Sabbath.......?1 lol
Glad to hear that Steve Perry is doing well! I liked his songs with Journey!!!!! Hey; don't be a wiseacre!!
So you’re saying, you don’t like Steve Perry’s solo music.
What is a wiseacre?
Hey, I liked Bread. The band. wiseacre.
Yeah!
Be a dumbacre!
A "wiseacre" is a "smart-aleck"!
Watch Goddard's "Sympathy for the Devil" Jones is seen in the studio playing, but only he could hear his guitar. He was fired the following year.
Well Brian is seen coming up with the riff that became the signature and catch of the song , you can see that Keith isn’t giving Mick the sound he was looking for in the rhythm guitar and Brian comes up with what Mick wanted so as little anyone thought he put forth in that song Brian Jones gave the signature rhythm that became the song with Kieth adding solos !
Ringo was a awesome drummer, singer ect Love you Ringo
From what i can see, Pete Best dint fit da Beatles image and Ringo has it.
Pete Best didn't fit because he was a bad drummer.
@@philosoraptor2285 plus, Ringo is way cooler anyway.
How does someone accidentally stab themselves more than once?
Don't try to take over a band you're added to after conception.
True that. It never ends well for the band member attempting a hostile takeover.
I thought Steve Perry was added to Journey after they were already running awhile, and they were trying to be more of a metal band. They never set out to be a pop band. But Steve Perry got them instant traction. So if pop pays the bills and feeds your kids, run with it.
I would've added Doug Hopkins from the Gin Blossoms on this video.
All Pete Best has to do is listen to his recordings on The Beatles Anthology to know why he was fired...a terrible drummer.
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Yeah, tragic and somewhat triumphant. VH was never the same.
Diamond Dave, E/AVH are/were irreplaceable
@@JK-gm6kk I AGREE, but DAVE SUCKED after that, and STILL SUCKS‼
@@JK-gm6kk No mistake!! DAVE is WAN HALEN , as well as the VH boys! ... SO IS MICHAEL ANTHONY ‼‼‼
Pete Best made millions from the Beatles Anthology release that also includes many pre-Beatles cuts with Best on drums. He was set up for life.
Heard the other guy play the drums for the beatles, ringo is really the right sound for the beatles
Just listen to the stuff Best recorded with The Beatles and it's obvious why he was sacked. He could barely keep even a simple beat going for more than a few seconds at a time. George Martin told them Best couldn't possibly be on any records they'd make, so a session drummer would have to be used. Best had only been hired because the band had been booked to play many shows in Hamburg, so they needed someone who owned his own kit, and who could leave for Germany in only a couple of days. There's really no mystery here. Even after several decades, Best just can't accept that he was not a very competent drummer.
I swear I heard on the "Behind the Music" episode of GnR that Adler had a cocaine overdose after he was fired that led to him having a severe stroke that affected his speech.
I wish people would stop blaming Sid Barret's mental issues on LSD. That just isn't how mental illness works.
People always get confused by that.
Syd had problems since childhood with psychiatric issues. Drugs didn't help, but didn't cause it.
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The drugs may have normalized him. Or it made him feel normal because he was finally experiencing the same things as everyone around him. We cannot discount the need for shared experience. Even with people who seem to be outside the norm.
People were afraid to consume ANYTHING at his place for fear of getting dosed. Syd took a lot of LSD
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So many people took just as much or more.
@@jk-76 I dunno, if there was a hall of fame he’d be up there. 😁
Steve Perry....best male vocals on the planet.
Agree him and brad the original Boston singer
That's a super tall claim to make.
So many others from the same era were also tip-top.
Paul Rogers, Chris Cornell, Ronnie James Dio, Ian Gillan, Freddie Mercury, Mick Jagger, Axl Rose and many others could all blow him away. No disrespect to Steve Perry at all, but there are other superthroats out there besides him
It may be tall to you but Steve Perry is hands down the best male vocalist in my opinion.
@@sherryarflin726 You mean, because he could sing like a chick?
You know it’s your choice to agree or disagree. I don’t find it odd that someone may think another person might be better. At this point though when you could have said I think so and so is better you’re choosing to be a jackass!!!
Jones was lead guitar, not rhythm. Richards holds the post of rhythm.
Jones barely could play guitar at all. He was never a lead guitarist.
@@marguskiis7711 Your talking about Jonesy at the end of his run w/ the Stones, when he couldn't even shake a tambourine. But I defy you to listen to their early stuff like Red Rooster, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Paint It Black, etc, and not marvel at Jones eclectic style of lead playing in his prime. Obviously Richards is the riff master behind all those songs, but in my opinion, the best lead guitar Stones ever had was with the Mick Taylor era, hands down.
@@marguskiis7711 bs
@@irofldmylolsoff4920 yes Mick Taylor are the Stone of the 70s
@@lylecampbell9036 check out Ed Sulliwan Show 1964. Who's playing lead there.
Loved Scott Weiland, thought he was one of the best and underrated vocalists of the 90s. He is missed
Absolutely. My fave singer of all time.
He was one of the best and I don't think he was underrated
Chester was an amazing voice an artist an had a wonderful heart ❤️
That beatles drummer who got pushed out in the beginning can you imagine how depressing it would be for the rest of your life telling the story how i kinda almost was a beatle , especially during the beatle's heyday
It's a Long way to the top if you want to rock and roll. Philadelphia USA
Love them all.
Scott Weiland was incredibly talented and didn't need STP.
I saw him with Velvet Revolver and they were fantastic...but he acted very odd.
Maybe he didn’t need STP, but he did need his drugs.
Missed Peter Green the founder of Fleetwood Mac.
Steve Perry was Journey and I hated the bands sound without him.Neil now trying to get him to do a reunion, like nothing happened,yeah never gonna happen Neil as Steve P told you to shove it.
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Pere Best was a mediocre drummer thats why he was sacked. He is luckiest mediocre drummer in the world remaining in history and getting large sum of money after Anthology.
Ringo wasn't a mediocre drummer? I suspect it had to do with image/marketing. Manager probably wanted them all to have dark hair lmao
@@LegaliseShemp Ringo is a brilliant drummer. Period.
Image/marketing??? Best looked times better than Ringo. Holding him would have meant stressing on image. OK, I know, all the image/marketing bullshit came from Mona Best who lamented a lot about the sacking of his son.
David Ruffin is a cousin on my Moms side.
I don't see how you can add Steve Perry to this list, Steve Perry was somewhat successful as a single artist.
Thank you for including the helpline/advice numbers at the end of this video. It is so shocking and sad how rarely these are mentioned, with the videos uploaded purely for $ and views. What a nice, refreshing change. Well done. Subbed due to this fact in large part.
I've heard Pete Best was fired because John Lennon was jealous over how all the girls drifted to him.
How messed up do you gotta be before “Slash” tells you, you’re too messed up for the band?
Berry Gordy's artist were extremely Young...
Some of their tragic lifestyles became the death of many talented Singers,The sounds of Motown can never be duplicated 💔
I don't understand why everybody try to make excuses for drugs that it's okay, this just proves that drugs can kill the most brilliant and creative minds and artists.
Ringo is an awesome drummer, Best was not …
Ringo was better, not awesome.
Nothing flashy about him but he was a solid drummer. Don’t know if I’d consider him “awesome”.
Ringo was average at best. He was non threatening and easy to get along with.
Steve Perry experienced life after they fired him he fell in love with a great woman sadly he did lose her his life is not tragic because he got fired it was their loss not his
How do you leave out Adler actually suffering a stroke after injecting copius amounts of cocaine resulting in years of rehabilitation, BEFORE reaching Dr.Drew. ?
Everyone liked the guns n roses vibe Steven Adler gives and I like his hair
This DID NOT HAPPEN TO STEVE PERRY! ...HE WAS “ JOURNEY
Actually Journey had a different lead singer before Perry, they also fired.
Can we talk ...
@@brendakayeperry6860 She is referring to Robert Fleischman.
Keith Richards at 18 looks pretty much the same as he does at 78
I seen Steven Adler in Chicago & is doing great ,he is free of drugs
That's because he's no longer working for Axl.
I want to mention Ingo "Mr. Smile" Schwictenberg of Helloween.
He was struggling with depressions, and when the direction of the band made him miserable, he got a drug problem.
It lead to the band was forced to fire him. In 1995 he jumped in front of a train 😔😢🥺