Defending Australia 1942 - Episode 1: Lark Force

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  • In order to defend mainland Australia from Japan, Australian and Allied forces occupied a outer defence perimeter of island bases. But the forces sent were small, isolated and unsupported, with disastrous consequences for the soldiers, when massive Japanese invasions began. In this episode, the fate of Lark Force on New Britain.
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  • @thunderbird1921
    @thunderbird1921 2 роки тому +576

    The Aussies have constantly proven to be a remarkably strong-willed people. As an American I find it unfortunate how often they're overlooked, such as their incredible performance at Kapyong in the Korean War (together with the Canadians and New Zealander artillery force). Good to see Dr. Felton and others sharing these stories.

    • @shaner1912
      @shaner1912 2 роки тому +30

      Another good one to look up is the siege of Tobruk. The Anzac forces deserve a lot of respect

    • @derekweiland1857
      @derekweiland1857 2 роки тому +60

      They used to be. Now they gave up their guns and their Chinese controlled puppet leaders are putting them all in camps because maybe they have the flu, and the Australians are quietly allowing it. Has beens.

    • @stupidumbasshithead5715
      @stupidumbasshithead5715 2 роки тому +7

      But theyre kinda annoying

    • @nameunavailable1330
      @nameunavailable1330 2 роки тому +22

      Save Australia!

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 2 роки тому +4

      @@stupidumbasshithead5715 Sometimes that can be a good thing. Keeps everyone on their toes.

  • @sueneilson896
    @sueneilson896 2 роки тому +126

    Had the infinite pleasure of knowing one of the survivors of the Japanese detailed in this video. His name was Harold Martin, and after capture, was imprisoned in Changi, then survived 2 years on the Burma railway, then 4 days adrift after their prison ship was torpedoed by a US submarine as mentioned also. Harold was a quiet, kind and gentle man, and died last year at 103 years of age.

    • @MTG776
      @MTG776 2 роки тому +4

      What a Legend... They don't make them like that anymore...

    • @wufongtanwufong5579
      @wufongtanwufong5579 2 роки тому +18

      My great Uncle was a prisoner of the Japanese during WW2. And he wouldn't have anything to do with them. If you went to pick him up for a doctors visit, etc and you turned up in a toyota he wouldn't get int the car. The worse part is you would have woke idiots telling him he should get over it. Why should he? Why should he not hate a race and culture that tortured, starved and almost worked him to death him for 3 yrs or how he watched them beat starve and take great pleasure in murdering his friends? The poor old bugger still had a massive great scar on his back from when they beat him with a shovel.

    • @Ekstrax
      @Ekstrax 2 роки тому

      @@MTG776 actually they do make em like that nowadays

    • @MTG776
      @MTG776 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ekstrax Pfffftttt...

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 2 роки тому +3

      You extremely Lucky to have met such a man. RIP Harold Martin.

  • @obesetuna3164
    @obesetuna3164 2 роки тому +406

    As an Australian who currently lives in the UK, I salute Dr Felton for describing this much over - looked tragedy of WW2.

    • @johnsaia9739
      @johnsaia9739 2 роки тому +16

      It was a lot rougher in the CBO and the Pacific than many people realize and where some of my relatives fought in it in the US Army and US Navy. The stories they told me were bone chilling of what all allied men faced. We should always honor them for their valor and sacrifice.

    • @adamarmstrong6304
      @adamarmstrong6304 2 роки тому +8

      John Saia - not only allied men. Australian and Dutch nurses were bayoneted and shot just like their male colleagues - not to mention the horrors committed upon the civilian populations.

    • @timontide6404
      @timontide6404 2 роки тому +8

      Not tragedy but atrocity.

    • @oldfatbastad6053
      @oldfatbastad6053 2 роки тому +3

      @@adamarmstrong6304 and boy did they commit attrocities. many say the 2 atom bombs were ideal retrobution.

    • @oldfatbastad6053
      @oldfatbastad6053 2 роки тому +1

      G'day Cobber 😁 👍

  • @timothychapman2455
    @timothychapman2455 2 роки тому +70

    My father was part of gull force as capt. He escaped with 17 others and island hopped to Thursday island using only a compass and world atlas. It took Three months and dad arrived back in Australia weighing 5stone and covered in tropical ulcers. He relived this three months in his dream every year until his death in 2007. I attended the 70th anniversary dawn service and walked through the war cemetery

    • @mattharcla
      @mattharcla 2 роки тому +3

      Yes. Lest We Forget.

    • @colinpowis3600
      @colinpowis3600 2 роки тому

      Is there any good biographies of these escapees ?

  • @andrewd7586
    @andrewd7586 2 роки тому +108

    My late father, his 2 brothers fought in the 2nd AIF against the Japanese from 1942 in New Guinea after being called back from the Middle East. His eldest brother was in Darwin & was bombed numerous times! Dad told me some horrific stories which you’ve now highlighted Mark! Dad passed away in 2010 & still had nightmares up until his passing aged 86. Although dad moved on with his life, he could NEVER forgive the Japanese for the atrocities committed against his countrymen & allies. Lest We Forget…

  • @jimrutherford2773
    @jimrutherford2773 2 роки тому +41

    Many history professors leave out the Japanese brutality in WW2. They usually focus on Germany and concentration camps.

  • @PJF62
    @PJF62 2 роки тому +20

    When I was 6-9 rs old I lived at RAF Changi in Singapore. My dad flew Argosy type aircraft at the time. From our back garden we could see the notorious Changi prison. I learned about the atrocities there against Japanese prisoners and the bravery of Australian commandos who would smuggle medical supplies onto the beaches at night.
    An old woman who sold fruit and hid these supplies and her adventures are worthy of a Dr Felton story. I have made it my mission in life to defend the courage and contribution of the Australian and New Zealand people in all of the wars. Please do not think that the world has forgotten you. Many many Poms still remember your part with respect and gratitude. We will remember them.

  • @SnoopReddogg
    @SnoopReddogg 2 роки тому +85

    A lot of the 2/22nd Battalion were recruited from the Western district of Victoria. My small hometown lost 4 men on Rabual. One escape back to Australia only to be KIA in Wau in 1945. Another ended up as a POW only to be torpedoed and plucked out of the water by a USN submarine. My grandmother lost her boyfriend and 2 school friends. Rabaul had a terrible impact on our area.

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 2 роки тому +6

      10% of the total population of Australia served in the armed forces during WW2.

    • @maddyg3208
      @maddyg3208 2 роки тому

      What is the name of the town?

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 2 роки тому +3

      @@maddyg3208 Dimboola area I'm guessing. These troops went from the Little Desert area to a jungle. That would have been impossible for them.

    • @Sacrifice-Loyalty
      @Sacrifice-Loyalty 2 роки тому +1

      Not Forgotten!

    • @mauriceturner6970
      @mauriceturner6970 6 місяців тому +1

      My Father was at Rabaul. He survived!

  • @dlosg6037
    @dlosg6037 2 роки тому +118

    Utterly terrorizing, I still can't believe that one Australian survived being bayonetted over 6 times even one to the face. I still can't believe they were sent to fight being woefully outnumbered and out gunned. Happy to see they are not forgotten. As a US Marine listening about the horrors of war, this is at the top.

    • @IgorTheGreat
      @IgorTheGreat 2 роки тому +19

      If I understood correctly, it was a total of 11 wounds for that guy. The Japanese soldiers went out of their way to be as evil as humanly possible.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 2 роки тому

      Why not it was all they had

    • @camg2793
      @camg2793 2 роки тому +2

      Look up the interview of Australian soldier shot 9 times at Papua New Guinea on the Kokoda Trail

    • @duffvader6731
      @duffvader6731 2 роки тому +2

      Only 6 times? In occupied countries they rounded up civilians including children for bayonet practice. Each target would be bayonetted in turn by an entire platoon or company.

    • @mattharcla
      @mattharcla 2 роки тому

      @@duffvader6731 Yep

  • @westernjeep4015
    @westernjeep4015 2 роки тому +87

    This IS history that should never be forgotten; to my Australian and New Zealand brothers and sisters in-arms, I salute you.

  • @saltmerchant749
    @saltmerchant749 2 роки тому +154

    The unconscionability of Japan denying these acts ever took place to this very day is not lost on anyone.

    • @xiaoka
      @xiaoka 2 роки тому +4

      Who is denying it took place? Please be specific.

    • @saltmerchant749
      @saltmerchant749 2 роки тому +31

      @@xiaoka Every government of Japan since it happened. Numerous public figures in media and a troubling % of the population who subscribe to ultra-nationalist politics... to start with.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 2 роки тому +1

      Current generation and polictal leaders only USA did war crimes

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify 2 роки тому +7

      ​@@saltmerchant749 When I visited Japan you can see the issue everywhere, they have many WW2 memorial sites but they all have the same issue, they memorialize Japanese losses to Civilians and military but they do memorialize Japanese victims and they do not explain any context to the Japanese losses especially the atomic bombs. So a Japanese person can see the result but does not understand why and that is a big issue to still today in 2021 "save face". As a result, if you dare look up videos of US and Japanese navy exercise today in 2021 here on UA-cam and translate the Japanese comments you will see them full of anti American rhetoric, there are some Japanese fighting against them, here and there, but they are usually drowned out.

    • @bangochupchup
      @bangochupchup 2 роки тому +4

      I served in the 3rd Marine Division on Okinawa, 85-86. We were there to keep those Tojoists in line!

  • @23draft7
    @23draft7 2 роки тому +141

    Merry Christmas ⛄🎄⛄🎄 to all. Aussies have been over looked by most. Excellent determination, and collectively very good fighters. Thank God for the Australian people. 🇨🇦🇦🇺

    • @johnsaia9739
      @johnsaia9739 2 роки тому +5

      Informed Americans know how awesome they were to fight alongside big time. They were also issued British beer in many cases so it was good to know them. LOL!

    • @23draft7
      @23draft7 2 роки тому +2

      @@johnsaia9739 right on John. Nice to hear.. Be safe.

    • @jesuschrist7169
      @jesuschrist7169 2 роки тому +3

      Merry Christmas too you all as well

    • @Black-Sun_Kaiser
      @Black-Sun_Kaiser 2 роки тому +3

      I dont really feel like Australia is over looked, ive always been well informed on Australian events pretty well, maybe its just me but I definitely didn't over look.

    • @23draft7
      @23draft7 2 роки тому

      @@Black-Sun_Kaiser that also good to hear. Cheers to the people of Australia.

  • @mynamedoesntmatter8652
    @mynamedoesntmatter8652 2 роки тому +31

    Why are the Aussies so overlooked in war histories? What great, brave, hard-fighting soldiers they have always been, and their contributions are almost never even mentioned, much less highlighted. Thank you, sir, for putting this video together. I look for history books that are about Australia‘s fighters. They finished WWI. They were a major force in Korea. One unit, left with no help nearby, was so heroic in Vietnam (there is a great movie on those few guys against thousands of Vietcong). Yet they get skipped over by so many books and documentaries. History; you’ve got to really dig to try and make sure get it all or you’ll miss quite a lot. Helmets and hats off to the Aussies from this thankful American. 🇦🇺 🇺🇸 Thank you to your fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, cousins - all. They gave at home, too.

    • @tomobrien4965
      @tomobrien4965 2 роки тому +3

      Respect from Downunder to our greatest ally and brother in arms the US 🇦🇺🇺🇸 👍

    • @keithkearns93
      @keithkearns93 6 місяців тому +4

      Please don’t forget the Kiwis .

    • @peterpayne9869
      @peterpayne9869 17 днів тому +1

      Always Anzacs Australia New Zealand Army Corps .

    • @longtabsigo
      @longtabsigo 16 днів тому

      Why? Two words: Doug MacArthur.
      He assured that no one but he would get any credit for defeating Japan.

    • @kristinehayes4885
      @kristinehayes4885 12 днів тому

      @@longtabsigo not just that, Yanks have always thought they are "the best of the best of the best" bullshit. They are far from it.

  • @jeffveraart2695
    @jeffveraart2695 2 роки тому +17

    A workmate's father was at 16 the youngest Australian POW held by the Japanese at Changi, working on the rail line. He had the nickname "the pup". He survived the war and went on to be part of the Commonwealth occupational forces in Japan.

  • @brittishshorthair6709
    @brittishshorthair6709 2 роки тому +182

    It’s a huge disgrace that so few japanese war criminals have been brought to trial
    My grandfather was a corporal in the dutch indies army and captured somewhere around februari 1942
    Leaving behind his pregnant wife (carrying my mother) and being send to slave work at the Birma-Siam railway
    By a miracle he survived this hell on earth after the japanese surrender on the 15th of august 1945, just a few days after the beautiful second atomic bomb on Nagasaki was dropped
    It was in the weeks following when he saw my mother for the first time, already at the age of almost 3 (oktober 1942)
    My mother and her little brother had been wandering around all places on java..the so called “buitenkampers”, meaning they were not locked up in a japanese concentration camp because of their mixed origin, my grandmother being a native from indie
    An older (18) half brother went searching for them along with some english military he had succesfully pleaded to come and help searching
    Grandmother just left the children behind on their own and left..
    My mother bears a scar on her knee…scrapnel from an exploding granate.l, together witje a burned foot and an everlasting war trauma
    They returned to the netherlands by ship, only to return a few years later because of the so called politionele acties ( colonial indepence war) and somewhat later to finally return to the netherlands
    A huge disgrace from the dutch government was the refusal to pay the salary my grandfather owned, for the years he had been slave working for the japanes at the Birma-Siam railway, saying he was not serving…….it’s mind boggling
    After the war the people returning from the dutch indies fellt nobody cared about what they had gone threw…nobody was interested…they thought that only they themselves had sufferd from the germans in the netherlands ..and those from the dutch indies..what did they know/have been gone threw
    Only for the last few years now there is some media and governmental attention to those who suffered severly from the saddistic japanese occupation

    • @vegitoblue5000
      @vegitoblue5000 2 роки тому +8

      *"It’s a huge disgrace that so few Japanese war criminals have been brought to trial"*
      This phenomenon can be attributed to the USA never being bothered to dispose of the royal family but instead keep him to use him to pacify the country. They also never did a huge military war trial for the Japanese as they did for the Germans, or try to re-educate them that empires are bad, like they did to the Germans. Which is why the idea of a recreation of the Japanese empire is still well and alive to this day.
      One reason was because many of the war crimes were committed by the members of the royal family and since the US wanted to keep them, then they could not be prosecuted.
      The second reason was because they wanted to know some information about their human experimentation of chemical and biological weapons to use against the communists later on (such as their use in the Korean and Vietnamese war), which is similar to operation paperclip when they brought some Nazis and actual war criminals to the US, to live a life of American luxury, just so they could get information from them. And a final reason was because the Soviets were not there to pressure the US to have a war tribunal to sentence war criminals, even though they were a contributing factor in the Japanese surrender and actually captured more prisoners in the final months of ww2 than the US did in the whole 4 years of the war.

    • @timontide6404
      @timontide6404 2 роки тому +4

      @@vegitoblue5000 As the saying goes, the Nazis lost the war but the fascists won.

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 2 роки тому

      Old guy goes back to try and put right a wrong as best he can.. ua-cam.com/video/ym8GKKpDjGw/v-deo.html

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 2 роки тому +5

      My wife come s from a provincial capital in far east.my father in law told me that in late 70s they had a top Japanese baseball team touring the country they were to arrive in the city..and the mayor put out lots of flags and bunting around the town and the team was to march down the main street and to the top hotel so they all lined the streets and the music played and the Japanese marched down the main street waving...and then they got pelted with stones.

    • @Tubepoacher
      @Tubepoacher 2 роки тому +1

      @@WELLBRAN that's stupid

  • @Ludendorf01
    @Ludendorf01 2 роки тому +16

    Aussie here - Thanks for covering this topic Mark. You're a legend. These campaigns were huge factors in contributing to Australian national identity and spirit of the Australian Army. It's probably why even though we're an island, we have such a disproportionately large soft spot for the Army.

  • @jabirujoe5206
    @jabirujoe5206 2 роки тому +10

    As a "Canzak" (a Canadian serving in the NZ Army in the 70's) my most memorable ANZAC day was the dawn service at the Changi War Memeorial in in Singapore. It somehow made the suffering and sacrifice more tangible and real.

  • @Slugbunny
    @Slugbunny 2 роки тому +50

    This is one story I've been waiting to hear. Australia hasn't been heard enough.

  • @questionmark05
    @questionmark05 2 роки тому +36

    As an Australian, I never knew about this. Thank you for your video Dr Felton and for all your work. Happy holidays.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 роки тому +7

      ME neither, best wishes my friend from Liverpool here and we won't mention the Ashes OK 🎁🥂😀🙏

    • @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
      @TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 2 роки тому +4

      Merry Christmas

    • @nameunavailable1330
      @nameunavailable1330 2 роки тому +2

      Hope you’re staying safe and out of your concentration camps. #SaveAustralia

    • @250sabre
      @250sabre 2 роки тому

      @@nameunavailable1330 exactly !!

    • @questionmark05
      @questionmark05 2 роки тому +2

      @cas curse my great grandfather died early on in tassie. We never learnt about great grandmother. On the other side, I think opa's (dutch for grandad I think) farther was a Dutch solider. Opa died when I was 3 so I never learnt what happened to his parents but they did survive the war. My grandmother did say that her brother had his leg below the knee cut off by a katana for stealing bread while in a Japanese labour camp.

  • @ElliottFranks
    @ElliottFranks 2 роки тому +12

    My grandad and his brother fought here as past of the New Guinea volunteer rifles. His brother was was captured and went down on the Montevideo Maru. The crap thing was the Australian government didn't recognize their servive until after their death. RIP Norm & Garth.

  • @haroldvoss5886
    @haroldvoss5886 2 роки тому +11

    Not about WW2 but Vietnam:
    My dad was a liaison officer who worked directly with and alongside some Australian soldiers in Vietnam, according to dad, those Aussies where real badass's and more so than our own American soldiers, I wasn't there, and can only go on the stories dad told us, but the respect and love for the Aussies he had was astonishing

  • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
    @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 роки тому +52

    Japan got off very light for its war crimes. They managed to weasel themselves out of making reparations, unlike Germany and to this officially there has never been an official apology. Maybe too late, because of course the sins of the father should not befall the son, and current generations should not be made to pay or apologize for the crimes of their forefathers.

    • @23draft7
      @23draft7 2 роки тому +3

      They were totally dishonorable.

    • @hyokkorichin
      @hyokkorichin 2 роки тому +12

      Japanese leaders have made numerous apologies to Korea, and Japan has paid Korea millions in reparations since the 1960s, both to the Korean government and to private citizens (and the Koreans, predictably, continue to demand more, to the point of recently rioting in the streets). The Japanese government has been less charitable toward China, correctly perceiving Chinese demands to be purely political attacks. A government that drives over dissidents with tanks and runs a police state cannot legitimately make moral demands of anyone.

    • @bloodybones63
      @bloodybones63 2 роки тому +2

      Tell that to the modern day abolitionists.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 роки тому +8

      @@hyokkorichin That's the thing though, they always made personal apologies, never on behalf of the Japanese nation. Never an admission of national guilt. And Japan paid Western POW's and civilians that had to enjoy the hospitality of the Emperor squat.
      And yes, China is no position to make any moral demands itself. And again, I hold the current Japanese generations not responsible.

    • @bruceparr1678
      @bruceparr1678 2 роки тому +2

      I disagree that Japan got off lightly. The US used its superior technology to extract a terrible vengence on the Japanese people culminating with the atomic attacks. That vengence was so horrifying that it sort of put an instant stop to the violence and left every one feeling a bit disgusted.

  • @TheJapanChannelDcom
    @TheJapanChannelDcom 2 роки тому +40

    I am an Aussie, living in Japan, and I had a martial arts master who fought Aussies in PNG. We had some interesting chats about it.

    • @mathewkelly9968
      @mathewkelly9968 2 роки тому +5

      Did you confront him about his war crimes ? You should have

    • @TheJapanChannelDcom
      @TheJapanChannelDcom 2 роки тому +16

      @@mathewkelly9968 When you grow up, you can come to Japan and do that yourself, kid. But you wont, will you.

    • @dustywoood
      @dustywoood 2 роки тому +10

      ​@@mathewkelly9968 Sorry, but that's an awful suggestion. You're essentially suggesting that every Japanese soldier was a war criminal and committed war crimes, when there's probably no proof to make such a claim against his old teacher. It's like walking up to a German Veteran and accusing them of being a Nazi, when there were many whom were not - Afrika Korps for example.
      You really ought to educate yourself before going around and confronting people.

    • @jesuschrist7169
      @jesuschrist7169 2 роки тому +10

      @@mathewkelly9968 how far up the lunch line does pretending to be tough on the internet get you?

    • @frankmueller2781
      @frankmueller2781 2 роки тому +16

      One cannot blame every Indian for Crawnpore nor every American pilot guilty for Dresden, any more than every German for the Einsatzgruppen or every Japanese for Bataan. Every man writes his own plea before God at Judgment. No man bears the blame for his father's sins or his brother's misdeeds.

  • @alisleem8384
    @alisleem8384 2 роки тому +24

    Dr. Felton has been revealing such vivid illustrations for these chapters of ww2.
    Its truly intetested.
    Thanks a lot Dr. Felton

  • @tutts999
    @tutts999 2 роки тому +13

    My grandfather knew all about how the Japanese treated their POW while somehow surviving 2.5 years on the Burma Railway.
    RIP these brave Australians

  • @ray7419
    @ray7419 2 роки тому +65

    God bless those brave Australians.
    Merry Christmas to everyone, from America. 🎄🇺🇸

  • @lachlanf4842
    @lachlanf4842 2 роки тому +40

    I'm a young Australian and it never ceases to amaze me how my fellow young and old Australians alike, forget how barbaric the Japenese were and how close we were to being conquered. The Japanese got away with their atrocities and yet many Japanese and people like to make out that the Japanese were victims because of the two Atomic bombings. The bombings were awful but if you understand the history prior and what the Japenese did to Asia, you can not help but have very little pitty for them, a cruel symptom of a cruel war. I , like many, love the modern day Japanese now ofcourse, but it still doesn't sit right with me.
    Atleast now we are strong allies against the new tyranny that is hanging over Asia, Communist China. It is sad to see that the coming conflict with China will likely follow a similar path as the Imperial Japanese conquest did and that it's likely, once again, our little continent shall again be plunged into a desperate war of defence.
    Love from Australia to all Mark felton viewers and ofcourse to Dr Felton himself. Merry Christmas and holiday.

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 2 роки тому

      Exactly all historians seem to do is concentrate on the Nazi war crimes which are nothing compared to what the Japanese forces did. At least the Germans fed and gave their POWs well the British, Australians at least food, water and basic shelter. My grandad was a POW in WW2 taken prisoner by the Germans for two years. Although upon being rescued he was underweight and suffering, malnutrition he at least was given some food and shelter, even struck up distant relationships with their German captures. He said had he’d been taken prisoner by the Japanese he was certain he most likely not have survived…

    • @jaygonzales8258
      @jaygonzales8258 2 роки тому

      I understand where you are coming from, but history shows that all rising great powers during early in their rise were often prone to brutal atrocities. One example of such these atrocities of a rising great power is America. In 1880-90s Philippine-American war it was not uncommon for American officers to order the deaths of every male in "liberated" villages from the ages of 10 and upwards. Yes American officers were ordering the deaths of 10 years old children in that conflict.
      I could sift through England's, Russia's, France's, Germany's and others rise to great power status and find atrocity after atrocity also but you get my point.

    • @jaygonzales8258
      @jaygonzales8258 2 роки тому

      I think it was the fact that if they won and become victors and a great power status. They thought they could re-write history whitewash or cover up any atrocities and crimes it would be decades before people actually learnt the truth by then it would be too late for justice against the people ordering the atrocities often dead and buried as heroes or holding supreme power of the state they control, thus immunity. Couple that with the fact over time people have got comfortable with the new status quo and see the rising or new great power as legitimate.

  • @parvuspeach
    @parvuspeach 2 роки тому +125

    amazing how lightly punished the japanese armed forces where, even their reputation is less known rthan any random nazi or even german soldier

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 роки тому +6

      EDWARD Russell, - Knights of Buchido is THE book 📙

    • @bashirmuhammad8181
      @bashirmuhammad8181 2 роки тому +23

      Considering their ruthless cruelty, you're correct.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 2 роки тому +6

      I reckon that for Westerners the Germans made more of an impression as those countries experienced German 'hospitality' directly. Whereas with the Japanese it was only Western soldiers and civilians in Asia who got to experience it. Plus I wouldn't be surprised that with decolonization a lot of people came to look down on those who worked and/or fought for colonial administrations. So for some of them it even became kinda a just punishment for people who served as part of colonialism. And for others a book of history they now preferred closed. Of course for the people of Asia it was never forgotten. I hear the South Koreans are more weary of Japan then North Korea, the Philippines haven't forgotten it either and the Chinese loath Japan. If the PRC wants to divert attention away from its own failures all they have to do is beat the Japan drum.

    • @stevewhite3424
      @stevewhite3424 2 роки тому +28

      Hmmmm, 3.5 Million total Japanese deaths including military personnel as compared to at least 20 million murdered Chinese. Add another 3 to 6 million murdered Phillipino and Southeast Asian civilians and and Allied POW's.
      Japan came out of the war in far better condition than any of those people who she conquered and occupied.

    • @4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz
      @4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz 2 роки тому +23

      The Allies originally intended to prosecute Japanese war criminals to a degree similar to that of German and other Axis figures in post-war Europe. MacArthur and Truman eventually canceled these plans out of a perceived need to use Japan as a political and economic bulwark against the Soviet Union. There was an active communist/socialist movement in Japan at the time, and American authorities were afraid of Japan turning "red" if they prosecuted too many of Japan's wartime political and economic leaders who, while not the nicest people, were definitely no friends of communism.
      As it turned out, Japan's postwar recovery was essentially led by a clique of unrepentant Class A war criminals given a pass by the Allied leaders. One postwar prime minister alone, Nobusuke Kishi, was a sadistic rpist and slve driver directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of workers and civilians in Manchukuo, Japan's puppet state and colony in Manchuria, in his former role as an industrialist and political operator there.

  • @Ewen6177
    @Ewen6177 2 роки тому +15

    Cheers Mark, now the weekend can truly begin. I salute you Sir and the content you provide us with. So cheers, from Speybay Scotland.

  • @elviramcintosh9878
    @elviramcintosh9878 10 місяців тому +2

    Painful to imagine what our Uncle Harold Collins went through. But thanks for re-telling this sad story.

  • @bashirmuhammad8181
    @bashirmuhammad8181 2 роки тому +20

    This audio is another classic! I never read much about this particular theatre even in the Staff Colleges. Now I'm better informed. Thanks to you Doc.

  • @gregmcgrath4859
    @gregmcgrath4859 2 роки тому +12

    We actually had no trained, experienced troops in Australia to oppose these invasions. Similarly for the Air Force. All our best divisions were either in North Africa or already captured in Singapore. It took until September 1942 for some to return, to be committed in Papua. Even then, Churchill had tried to keep them in Ceylon for the defence of India.

    • @tacitdionysus3220
      @tacitdionysus3220 2 роки тому +5

      The military involved in the events in this clip were mostly AIF, as were most of the divisions overseas. But, in addition to that, there were seven militia divisions in Australia - 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 infantry divisions, I and 2 armoured cavalry divisions, and the AIF 1st armoured division, (plus garrison troops, troops guarding POW camps etc.).
      Initially under-equipped, by just after the Battle of Coral Sea (May 42), they were formidable enough a force to complicate if not deter any Japanese invasion of Australia itself, and were fully equipped by the end of that year. Their armoured units were typically equipped with Grant and Stuart tanks. Some units were later disbanded as the threat waned, as the Australian workforce was very short of labour for war production due to the large numbers that had joined the army.
      I'm not saying any of this just to be contrary, and they were certainly not suitable for operations such as described in this clip at the time. It's just that very few of these units feature much at all in Australian military history (except 39 Battalion of course), which focus very much on the AIF; so few Australians have ever heard about them. 3rd and 5th Divisions in particular did a lot of effective work in New Guinea and New Britain, but rarely rate much of a mention. In contrast, US National Guard divisions (such as 32 Div - in New Guinea and beyond) get quite good coverage in equivalent US histories.
      My personal connection was that my father was a company commander with 30 Battalion, 8 Brigade; a militia unit whose activities included defence of Northern Sydney beaches, defence of WA around Geraldton, operations towards Saidor in New Guinea and the capture of Madang. They killed about 700 Japanese on operations plus found about as many bodies of others again (due disease and malnutrition), with very few combat losses to themselves, (though heaps from malaria and other jungle diseases).

    • @tacitdionysus3220
      @tacitdionysus3220 2 роки тому +2

      @Billy Bones Australian territory was invaded, but the mainland received only air and naval attack, and one ground reconnaissance.
      Japanese aims are clear in retrospect, but not to those there and then. Hence the barbed wire on beaches, new strategic roads, hundreds of airfield constructed, the Brisbane Line, etc. WA was considered a prime target, with its small and isolated population facilitating any easy to maintain lodgement, hence the concentration of militia and armour there in 42.
      From a historical aspect it’s a shame that General Sturdee destroyed his records. He accurately predicted the events of 41/42, was chief military advisor to Curtin, worked with Marshall in the USA and returned later to command 1st Aust army. No doubt could have provided some interesting insights.
      It’s not very different from the speculation about whether Germany had the capability to invade Britain, but it was certainly feared so at the time.

  • @SupernormalParanatural
    @SupernormalParanatural 2 роки тому +6

    Wasn't it Rommel who said, "Give me a division of Australians and I'll give you the world"?

  • @juliestevens5764
    @juliestevens5764 2 роки тому +5

    Much respect 🙏
    From the UK 🇬🇧

  • @trj1442
    @trj1442 2 роки тому +6

    Another excellent episode. Thankyou from Australia.
    Gee war is hell. When are we ever going to learn.

    • @peterterry398
      @peterterry398 2 роки тому +1

      Only the dead have seen the end of war....PLATO

  • @mynamedoesntmatter8652
    @mynamedoesntmatter8652 2 роки тому +10

    ‘The Knights of Bushido: A Short History of Japanese War Crimes During World War II’ by Lord Russell of Liverpool
    A good read. Rather difficult, but for the WWII reader it’s a necessity - and a start.

  • @larrybarnes3920
    @larrybarnes3920 2 роки тому +3

    My Father, Jack Barnes, QX53779, fought in Papua, New Guinea, Morotai and New Britain.
    His war ended in 1947 when he came home after servong with the Commonwealth Occupation Forces.
    Thank you Mark for telling this story.
    Lest we forget.

    • @colinpowis3600
      @colinpowis3600 2 роки тому

      Is there any good biographies of those escapees ?

  • @daniellebcooper7160
    @daniellebcooper7160 2 роки тому +4

    As an Australian, I'd like to thank you for taking the time in putting this documentary together.
    Happy new year to all, and Long Live Western Culture.

  • @TankerBricks
    @TankerBricks 2 роки тому +6

    Mark. Thanks for providing my Saturday Night Entertainment!

  • @fedecano7362
    @fedecano7362 2 роки тому +5

    It's always a pleasure listenning to you Mark!

  • @johnalexander7831
    @johnalexander7831 2 роки тому +6

    Great work as always Mark. As an Australian I found this an excellent account. The history of the Australian army in WW2 is quite unusual. These events certainly doesn't get much coverage here. Naturally the performance of the Australian divisions in the 8th army in North Africa or the militiamen in New Guinea much preferred as topics to talk about. The terrible negligence of the Australian govt and high command in all of this is another reason it gets little attention. Then of course there is the scandal of the use of the Australian army in 1944 mopping up Japanese forces left starving after the American advance across the pacific had cut them off. Rather than leave them to wither the Australian army thought it a good idea to waste lives reducing these pockets. The futility of it all was obvious to the troops who in some cases mutinied for being sent out to die for absolutely no reason. So unlike the Navy or Airforce the history of the Australian army in ww2 is quite chequered.

  • @chamberpot969
    @chamberpot969 2 роки тому +12

    It is hard to fathom the brutality of Japanese troops. One of my father's friends, a Singaporean Chinese, witnessed his parents being beheaded by the Japanese who brutalised the Chinese population of occupied Singapore. He never forgave them and refused to do business with the Japanese after the war until the day he died.

    • @colinpowis3600
      @colinpowis3600 2 роки тому

      They had a primitive quasi medieval mentality

  • @Dsdcain
    @Dsdcain 2 роки тому +3

    Very good series that you plan to cover. So much of the battle in the Pacific remains almost unspoken about. We mainly here tales of large battles like Iwo Jima, Okinawa, or the Philippines. There is so much history to be learned about the battles and even the suffering of soldiers in the Southern Pacific, especially early in the war. Looking forward to more in this series. Thank you Dr. Felton for your always interesting and informative content.

  • @ducaticessna9386
    @ducaticessna9386 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Mark Felton for your, matter of fact, reporting of these events.
    Two uncles were PoW , held by the Japanese during WW2. One was executed at Sandakan, too unwell to commence a march. The other survived forced labour on Blakan Mati but was traumatised by his experiences and even in old age, the scars of his beatings from the Japanese were clear to be seen.
    The facts of those times need to be preserved to aid remembrance and hopefully, in some way, prevent re-occurrence

  • @conradburchfiel2721
    @conradburchfiel2721 2 роки тому +12

    You’re the absolute best historical channel out there. They need too give you your own series and big budget. I thought I knew a lot about world war 2 but you never cease too surprise me with new and interesting things.

  • @airborneace
    @airborneace 2 роки тому +2

    I spent a month in Rabaul earlier this year for work. Being an avid WWII history buff, it was overwhelming to be surrounded by so many reminders of that conflict. Talking to older locals who were handed down stories of the war by family members was a very sobering experience when it comes to the scale of the destruction to Rabaul and the brutality of the Japanese. Standing on a high ridge overlooking Simpson Harbor and imagining B-25s swooping in to strafe dozens of ships with flak exploding everywhere was a sight to behold.

  • @LazyLifeIFreak
    @LazyLifeIFreak 2 роки тому +13

    The Japanese soldiers were taught death before dishonor, that the enemy were not humans and that surrender was not to be accepted. It was the Japanese divine right to conquer the world and anyone in their way was to be removed.
    Even to this day Japan have not acknowledged some* of the horrible war crimes.

    • @jduff59
      @jduff59 2 роки тому +2

      Nippon Kaigi. That's all you need to know.

    • @michaelmangano1732
      @michaelmangano1732 2 роки тому

      True, but the later attempts to hide the atrocities speaks volumes about their consciences…

  • @duncanbaynton7138
    @duncanbaynton7138 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Dr Mark Felton as an Australian I never knew this story my grandfather was involved in Tobruk Crete and Papua NG … he told me the Nazis were brutal but the Japanese far worse so thank you for everything you are doing God Bless 🙏❤️

  • @gooraway1
    @gooraway1 2 роки тому +28

    So little is acknowledged about this period of Australian history. The pathetic government attempts at defence and the Japanese cruelty. Thank you for honouring the sacrifice of those brave men given a hopeless job.

    • @seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401
      @seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401 2 роки тому +1

      As I understand the Japanese don't teach this history in their schools. It's like it never happened.

    • @montecarlo1651
      @montecarlo1651 2 роки тому

      Reading John Curtin's biography will help give some insight into what the Government was dealing with during this period of the War.

  • @areyashore
    @areyashore 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Dr. Felton for giving us an honest blunt version of these events.

    • @areyashore
      @areyashore 2 роки тому

      My grandfather reckons it was borin..signed up at Newtown in Sydney ..sent off...airforce .mechanic cook builder concrete..said every day they blow up the runway..then I go concrete it again...the bastardssss..mom's dad joined up in Qld did a year..then threw him out..cancer or sum shit..same place he was sent..similiar..ya get it

  • @roslynweidemann9487
    @roslynweidemann9487 2 роки тому +5

    My grandfather fought with the 🇦🇺 army during WW11. I'd like 👍 to see 👀 more about Australian troops during WW11, as I'm a proud Australian. I think there's a little too much about the German's during WW11. I love ❤ your channel, Mark

  • @YMC888
    @YMC888 2 роки тому +14

    Thanks for this video Mark! Wish you an early Merry Christmas with your family and friends!

  • @Lochaber
    @Lochaber 2 роки тому

    My great uncle Ray Lees was a private in the 1st independent company as part of Lark force. He came from Warrigal in Gippsland Victoria. 1Ind Comp was assigned to defend the airfield at Rabaul where he was wounded and captured by the Japanese. He ended up as one of the POWs onboard the Montevideo Maru and went down with the ship when the USS Sturgeon torpedoed it. RIP Ray.

  • @alec349227
    @alec349227 2 роки тому +12

    I can't get enough of your videos. Your truly the best history based person on UA-cam. I was actually looking to get one of your books. Any recommendations on what to read first?

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 роки тому +1

      JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH, JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH! 🎁🥂

  • @elleodurkin409
    @elleodurkin409 2 роки тому +15

    I hope Mr Felton will do a short episode about the rape and massacre of Australian nurses at Bangka Island. I have the impression that these events have been ignored in the Australian school system, which annoyed many Australian veterans of WW2.

    • @gavanwhatever8196
      @gavanwhatever8196 2 роки тому

      I'm not sure what benefit would be delivered to our children by traumatising them. I'd like to think we could teach them some context and resilience first. More important too to teach them some critical thinking to help them identify where the real threats are in the contemporary world.
      Not that any of these Japanese atrocities should be forgotten.

    • @SpermDonorAnthonyGreenfield
      @SpermDonorAnthonyGreenfield 8 місяців тому

      ​@@gavanwhatever8196The crazy part is the Aussie government covered it up? Like WHY?

    • @BROOKS39
      @BROOKS39 19 днів тому

      Yes that story needs to be told 100%. Never forget

  • @xiaoka
    @xiaoka 2 роки тому +4

    Love these audio pieces.

  • @stekarknugen9258
    @stekarknugen9258 2 роки тому +10

    The Imperial Japanese Military: Where every unit in all branches were Dirlewangers.

  • @davidberriman5903
    @davidberriman5903 2 роки тому +5

    The two six inch guns in Rabaul were re-located there from Fort Wallace in Newcastle when it was re-armed with 9.2 inch guns. The range finder cams on them are labelled "Fort Stockton" which was Wallace's name before being re-named Fort Wallace.

  • @PunkFriday
    @PunkFriday 2 роки тому +2

    The old guy who lived next door when i was a kid drove landing craft in the pacific. Super nice guy, he didn't hate anything except the Japanese. Even at the end of his life 60 years later. I don't even know if he saw it first hand, but just knowing what they did to others like him stuck with him the rest of his life.

    • @mynamedoesntmatter8652
      @mynamedoesntmatter8652 2 роки тому

      They were brutal even before the war began. They just carried on, and against non combatants too. They didn’t care. Their mindset was Hitler-esque: they thought they were the superior world race. That’s what they taught, and that’s the reason that they had so much hatred.

  • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
    @jerryjeromehawkins1712 2 роки тому +5

    Merry Christmas Dr Felton!
    👍🏾

  • @lynnegilmore1923
    @lynnegilmore1923 Рік тому

    My late father was in Lark Force. They were told” Every man for themselves” on the fall. He escaped as written up in historical records. The sinking of the Montevideo such a tragedy & the loss of many of his friends & companions. His life, never the same after the war and a long recuperation nor ever the same for my family. Still he lived a long life & was a good & honourable man who never spoke or revealed much of war on many fronts. Lark Force history needs to be remembered on many fronts. So thank you. I still remember contacting the 2/22 Association to advise of his death. Such emotion on the line - as said” not many of us left now- hope we can be remembered” . Well, yes always remembered by me & many. Vale. 😢

  • @michaelmangano1732
    @michaelmangano1732 2 роки тому +5

    My great grandfather fought in PNG, then joined the special forces as a human guinea pig for testing of chemical warfare.
    Typical Aussie: “the fun really started”

  • @corvinyt
    @corvinyt 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Mr. Felton. With every video/audio I keep learning new things about WWII even as I was an avid Pacific theater history consumer in my youth.

  • @blakeshannon2083
    @blakeshannon2083 2 роки тому +9

    My pop was a z unit comando, and the stories he use to tell us of the Japanese treatment of soldiers were terrible,he had buttons made of cyanide incase of capture

  • @LisbonLadd
    @LisbonLadd 8 днів тому

    Growing up in Perth in the 90s and early 2000's we never learned this in school. Thanks Mark

  • @chopper7352
    @chopper7352 2 роки тому +7

    ...& some people question why Australians of the WW2 generations were never able to forgive (&/or forget) the Japanese (& the many atrocities they committed in WW2) in the 'Post WW2' era.

  • @williambryant5946
    @williambryant5946 2 роки тому

    Watching Mark Felton's youtube channels is better than anything the History Channel puts out. He has researched diligently to find these small stories to bring to us that a multi million dollar TV channel won't spend the time to research as hard to find. All the History Channel can cover is the big events of wars over and over. Mr. Mark Felton is a treasure to the curious interested in the history of wars.

  • @thunderwarrior2459
    @thunderwarrior2459 2 роки тому +12

    *Gets stabbed 11 times by a bayonet
    Crikey that’s it -Chad Aussie

    • @hyokkorichin
      @hyokkorichin 2 роки тому +2

      "It only actually hurt when he stabbed me in the mouth. The other 10 stabs were nothing really."

  • @koopsjunta
    @koopsjunta 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Mark, for telling this story. It’s wonderful to see your attention turn toward Australian military history, however grim the chapter may be.

  • @mikestirling7093
    @mikestirling7093 2 роки тому +6

    my grandfather was on the last plane out of Ambon and to his dying day he was 'exceptionally crooked' on the organisation that was non existent at Ambon and other 'defensive positions'. One story is that some prisoners were put into bamboo cages bayoneted and then thrown into the sea at Ambon to be eaten alive by sharks. I don't doubt the truth of this particular story. You should do a story on Vivian Bullwinkle sole survivor of 20 odd shipwreck survivors who where machine gunned in the ocean on I believe Banka Island

    • @mynamedoesntmatter8652
      @mynamedoesntmatter8652 2 роки тому +1

      Lord Russell included her and tens of thousands of others (non combatants) in his book, ‘The Knights of Bushido.’ It’s difficult to read, but that and other books on the Japanese atrocities need to be read. Horrific. Past horrific.

  • @pbeccas
    @pbeccas 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for making this video. We can’t forget.

  • @Swellington_
    @Swellington_ 2 роки тому +7

    It would be really hard to show an enemy,in this case the Japanese,any sort of mercy or any "leniency" when they turned it around and it was the Japanese in captivity,I imagine plenty of the allied troops would have been happy to put a bullet between their eyes, but as we know it didn't go down like that

    • @GTgaming69
      @GTgaming69 2 роки тому +6

      It most definitely did “go down like that” on several occasions. You can read first hand accounts from US Marines talking about how they often took no prisoners, especially after some japanese soldiers would fake surrender only to pull a grenade at the last second. Obviously nothing close to the sheer scale & brutality of the Japanese, but to think it never happened would be naive

    • @micko11154
      @micko11154 2 роки тому

      Don't fool yourself! Allied soldiers are human and humans take revenge. Many cases of it.
      Cheers!

  • @jeremygreen3392
    @jeremygreen3392 2 роки тому +1

    My great uncle is Lieutenant Ron J Green. Gullforce
    P.O.W. In Ambon. Went out to work with troops every day but didn’t have to because of rank.
    Lucky to be one of roughly 300 out of 1100 to survive.

  • @andyperth1000
    @andyperth1000 2 роки тому +5

    I always find it very hard when reading or seeing the history of my country men at the hands of the Japanese.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 роки тому

      If it makes you feel any better we only left 12 of them alive after Tarawa. There were over 20,000 of them on the island before the US landed too.

  • @matthewwhitton5720
    @matthewwhitton5720 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much, Dr Felton, for this long - awaited episode. It’s of very direct relevance to Tasmanians such as myself. My grandfather was an AIF member of an Anti-Tank regiment that had fought in Greece, Crete, and Syria, prior to redeployment to New Guinea, to replace the very hard-pressed ( and unfairly maligned ) Militia on Kokoda. My great - uncle was a member of the ‘ stay - behind ‘ Commonwealth troops ( mostly Australian and British ) , on what was then Japanese - occupied Portuguese Timor,..conducting guerrilla activities with strong local support.
    Unfortunately, he ended up as a POW in Changi, not before being forced to watch Japanese ‘ soldiers ‘ enacting brutal acts of horrific violence upon assembled batches of nuns and nurses on the wharves of Singapore.

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 2 роки тому +4

    Australia basically gets no love for our efforts in ww1 and ww2 . Nice to see some coverage.

  • @matttcoburn
    @matttcoburn 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Mark, my dad and uncle fought in Borneo and surroundings Islands against the Japanese. Man that's a bitter pill to swallow.

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron 2 роки тому +4

    Mark thanks for the work and effort here again this year and best wishes to you and your family there 🎄

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 роки тому +1

      PS, don't mention the Ashes 😉😎🥂

  • @markbringolf5908
    @markbringolf5908 14 днів тому +1

    Dr Felton as you get closer to Kokoda, I would love for you to do something on Brigadier Arnold Potts & perhaps one of the greatest fighting withdrawals of any Australian body of troops. Mind you this is 2 years old ,shame I hadn't seen this sooner. Thankyou.

  • @roslynnorish3552
    @roslynnorish3552 2 роки тому +4

    My uncle was beheaded on Ambon he was with the Larhar garrison...he was with GULL FORCE. MacArthur failed to OK the rescue attempts.

  • @BROOKS39
    @BROOKS39 19 днів тому

    Thank you for researching this and posting Dr Felton. I visited the former POW camp in Sandakan in Borneo about 10 years ago. It would great if you would be able to cover that story and the sad fate of the Australian 8th Division soldiers who ended up there after the fall of Singapore.

  • @henriknilsson7851
    @henriknilsson7851 2 роки тому +5

    I am always amazed by the toughness of the Australians.
    This should all be remembered, for a similar fate would await them at the hands of the Chinese.

    • @kingcarter9975
      @kingcarter9975 2 роки тому

      What’s this about the Chinese?? When?

  • @brianfitzpatrick1215
    @brianfitzpatrick1215 2 роки тому

    That's insanely dark. Great episode man but damn! Keep em coming

  • @cristianmicu
    @cristianmicu 2 роки тому +4

    as a canadian and human i bow to these aussie heroes defending australia

  • @Kingmick58
    @Kingmick58 15 днів тому +1

    Hello Dr. Felton. Always totally absorbed watching your excellent presentations. My uncle was Captain Ben Hooper Medical. Two times in New Guinea on the front line. Twice returned to recover from malaria. Late 1944 he joined Z Special Force. Unfortunately he drowned on manoeuvres off Perth 9th March 1945. Just asking if you do a story on Z Special Force. Many thanks for what you do. Andy from Rockhampton Queensland Australia. Ta mate.

  • @tomcondon6169
    @tomcondon6169 2 роки тому +2

    My Father was in New Guinea. He probably survived by getting yellow fever. He always complained about military reunions, there was hardly anyone there. My roommate in the hospital getting my full hip replacement, General Rus McGovern told me of McArthur, talking to the general over New Guinea, "Don't come home," meaning win, or die there, McArthur said. It was a group of Australians and American soldiers.

    • @bushyfromoz8834
      @bushyfromoz8834 2 роки тому +1

      Pretty sure it was Gen. Robert Eichelberger that McArthur gave that speech to.

    • @tomcondon6169
      @tomcondon6169 2 роки тому

      @@bushyfromoz8834 Thanks, My hospital roommate was present, told me about it, but I wasn't taking notes.

  • @nqgamer
    @nqgamer 2 роки тому +2

    It’s a hard one to press like on this video, especially as an Aussie.

  • @64maxpower
    @64maxpower 2 роки тому +5

    Such brutal people. This was 80 years ago. There is something never talked about in Japanese people where they can act so horrid. And somehow the ability to act like brutal animals just left their souls in just a few years of the wars end. I'm not buying it. I don't know what to think

  • @peterrobertson0371
    @peterrobertson0371 Рік тому

    This is my first time listening to this. I thought it was a brilliant presentation and very clear. I'll get right into this Mate. Keep up the good work

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 2 роки тому +3

    Salute from 🇺🇸 to 🇦🇺

  • @TRHARTAmericanArtist
    @TRHARTAmericanArtist 2 роки тому

    Thanks Dr. Felton for supplying the map. I usually have to go back and forth stopping the video without one.

  • @importantname
    @importantname 2 роки тому +3

    Tough choice.. fight or surrender. Die fighting or die after surrendering. As the war progressed Australians learnt to never surrender.

  • @elviramcintosh9878
    @elviramcintosh9878 10 місяців тому

    Yay! At last. I've been waiting for the Australian story. Thank you. Excellent programs.

  • @phrayzar
    @phrayzar 2 роки тому +5

    Ah yes Australians, great soldiers repeatedly given undoable jobs to do in countless wars. One of the reasons why many older Australians are still anti Brit, even though our heritage may be from there. Shafted again and again by the motherland. Also some ill feelings to the Japanese from the old timers.

    • @theoilandgasresourceportal2132
      @theoilandgasresourceportal2132 2 роки тому

      Im not sure why you think Britain let down Australia.
      Most Australians had it easy, compared with the hell that people in Europe and the Soviet Union went through.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 2 роки тому

      Population of Great Britain in 1940 :- 44,730,000. Military deaths in WW2, 383,600
      Population of Australia in 1940 :- 7,039,000. Military deaths in WW2, 27, 000.
      British % 0.85. Australian % 0.38.
      'Shafted again and again.' How exactly?

  • @jasongarufi8187
    @jasongarufi8187 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for another great video on WWII Dr. Felton

  • @warwickmorris9097
    @warwickmorris9097 2 роки тому +26

    I feel you were overly critical of the Australian Army HQ (AHQ) and the Australian Government. When we consider that the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) were in North Africa or on their back to defend Australia and with the fall of Singapore 1/5th of the Australian Military Forces were captured by the Japanese. Bearing this in mind the only troops in Australia at the time were under training or Militia (Citizen Military Forces) very brave men who did the best they could..
    To add to this situation the Australian PM Curtains was in conflict with Churchill over the “Europe First” policy the British and Americans politician had decided was the way to fight the war. This policy left Australia and New Zealand on their own and exposed. Churchill’s belligerent attitude that the Australian and New Zealand forces “must” stay and fight in Europe left Curtain with no choice but to angrily withdraw Australian Forces from North Africa to defend the homeland. With the Japanese rapid movement through South East Asia an add hock defence with very little left in reserve was organised. Australian HQ was hard pressed until the AIF could return be re equiped and dispatched.

    • @montecarlo1651
      @montecarlo1651 2 роки тому +15

      Quite correct! What was worse, Churchill and Roosevelt had agreed privately that Australia would not be defended and that they would seek to retake it later, should it fall to the Japanese. British people don't realise how much hostility there was from Churchill and Alan Brooke towards Australia and Australians, they only saw them as colonial troops to be used in defence of Britain. The defence of Singapore had the highest priority after Britain itself in Imperial Defence Policy however Churchill had no interest in it and the Far East at all, having openly racist attitudes towards the Japanese, thinking that they were like tribespeople where a whiff of grapeshot and a big ship would send them packing. His reward was the worst military disaster in British history with the surrender of a numerically superior force to a more determined Japanese foe at Singapore. In Australia's hour of need, Churchill cared more about the Middle East (where a defensive strategy was all that was required), than he did about a settler society like Australia and he openly transferred military responsibility for Australia to the USA and actively thwarted attempts to bring the 2ndAIF home, including diverting troops mid-ocean, to India (which Curtain countermanded). This period was critical in Australian History for it was the end of any strong pro British sentiment and began the rapid destruction of the old imperial loyalties. Britain's unceremonious dumping of Australia and NZ, with their UK oriented export trades, to join the EU in 1973 was the last act of betrayal.

    • @warwickmorris9097
      @warwickmorris9097 2 роки тому +8

      @@montecarlo1651 I absolutely agree with all you say, I was trying to be tactful. Curtain was a strong leader to stand up to a the pompous over bearing Churchill just the leader Australia needed at the time. Churchill under estimate and belittled anyone who was not white and preferably British, although the Americans would do in a pinch even if they didn’t speak the Queens English. There is far more to this story than Dr Felton has stated, hopefully the second episode will address some of the issues we have raised, maybe even Churchill’s attitude to Australia and New Zealand and the animosity that was felt by Churchill’s lack of support and apparent lack of understanding of the situation in India and South East Asia.
      Australia and New Zealand were most certainly bump in favour of the EU but now we have just signed a trade agreement with the UK how things can change is it in Australia’s interest we’ll have to wait and see

    • @Caratacus1
      @Caratacus1 2 роки тому +2

      I find it amazing that even the previously tough Aussies now view their history from a self-pitying 'victim' mentality. Blaming their British 'oppressors' when it was actually the Japanese who were murdering their men. War is unbelievably brutal, tough decisions are made, and good men die horribly. I know of no Brit who doesn't admire and appreciate the Aussies for their war effort. All your Divisions apart from one were immediately sent back to Australia when the Japanese attacked. The final one went back in late 1942. Oh and your Prime Minister was called John Curtin not Curtain. To be fair you do need to pull yourselves together.

    • @warwickmorris9097
      @warwickmorris9097 2 роки тому +8

      @@Caratacus1 We are all Military Historians aren’t we and we all see history from our own particular perspective. The animosity that Australian felt towards Churchill goes back long before WW2, there was a small action called Gallipoli you may of heard of it, Churchills great idea I believe. The Australian Divisions were NOT send back they were TAKEN back by Curtin (correct spelling happy blame auto correct). Of course Churchill like a petulant child through a tantrum jumped up and down held his breath until he went red in the face. The British were oppressors not only with Australia but also with the other Dominions they considered they were still a great empire and world power able to order others to do their bidding. Today most Australians see the British Empire and indeed the Commonwealth as irrelevant and the Queen as a wealthy old lady living in a big house. The Japanese were the enemy in front of the rifle muzzle the British (Churchill) was a friend holding a knife from behind.

    • @guyh9992
      @guyh9992 2 роки тому +3

      @@Caratacus1 Two brigades of the 6th division were diverted to Ceylon by Churchill for six months. One brigade of the 7th division was diverted by Churchill to Java where it was was captured by the Japanese. Churchill failed in his attempt to divert another division to Rangoon where it too would inevitably have been captured.
      Three brigades of the 6th and 7th divisions actually landed in Australia by the end of March, well after these events.
      At the same time, there were around three dozen frontline British and Canadian divisions sitting around the UK "getting fat" as Churchill himself put it.

  • @silvagni97
    @silvagni97 Рік тому

    Thankyou for this, with the coming anzac day it was great to have some stuff to watch to help me remember. My grampa fought in the battle of darwin.

  • @thejudgmentalcat
    @thejudgmentalcat 2 роки тому +8

    The colonel committed suicide by starving himself, how ironic

    • @MCOult
      @MCOult 2 роки тому +3

      Too bad it didn't take the SOB longer to die.

    • @gavanwhatever8196
      @gavanwhatever8196 2 роки тому

      Nobody can die of starvation in nine days. Dehydration maybe. Regardless, good riddance.

  • @yolakin8210
    @yolakin8210 2 роки тому

    What a dire situation, happy to hear that some made it back.

  • @unnamedchannel1237
    @unnamedchannel1237 2 роки тому +5

    This may sound like crazy talk but I Am thankful for nuclear weapons. I think it helped prevent the Cold War breaking out into world war 3. With all having nukes I don’t think we will have mass wars like WW1 and WW2. In saying that let’s just hope a job doesn’t fire one off