I concur here - a variant like this that is targeting a family is fantastic but full timers who work would love the ability to delete the bath and optimize for an office and extra storage/wardrobe
Looks like someone recorded on "slow-mo" in the camera app 😂 Been there a time or five... Beautiful Fortis, great for families and it has a fifth wheel like feel to it with that separate bedroom with half bath!
CozyLivingMachine, LOL. we are definitely not videographers! We learn something new not to do every time. Thank You for watching and commenting - Mike -
Glad to see that the right-side screen by the driver was moved to a more angled position than it has been on some of the models over the last few years! As noted with the other comments, so great that Fleetwood listens! The layout is pretty cool -- I really love the amount of room with the slides in. A few comments/constructive criticisms -- the l-shaped couch at the front looks a bit uncomfortable and cheap. While I get this is a more entry level coach, it could probably be made to look a little more comfy/padded with minor costs (or perhaps even a paid optional upgrade). There does not appear to be any other options on where to put the tv in that living area, but everyone will be straining their necks to watch with it so high up/ Also, another thing I assume that might be too much for this level of coach but I like the other commenter's point about configurable back rooms. Also, the bunk is high enough that it should have some small railing or other safety measure. Would love to see this layout in a Bounder!
I love the innovation y’all are bringing - I’m no engineer so this might not be possible but if you bring the entry door back to enter into the kitchen you could go next level with that booth design and have a televator integrated to put the TV across from the theater chairs. I understand if that’s not possible why you made the choice you did but I don’t understand doing the short fridge in the outside kitchen when there is plenty of space to fit a tall fridge. Outside kitchens are rare for Class A’s - let that bad boy shine. Tough call on whether to have that cooktop on the left or a proper sink - I’d appreciate either but would lean toward the sink as most RVers are particular about their cooktop/barbecue setups and are likely gonna bring their own and use the propane hookup OR you could have the best of all worlds and provide a hook setup to hang a propane cooktop on the outside of the RV by the propane setup
Golfinginthesun, Those are all great ideas and I will be sure to share this with my engineering and design team. Thank You for watching and commenting !! - Mike -
Love the kid cave!!! This RV just went to the top of my list. The kitchen is always a point of distention for me. We need more COUNTER SPACE. I know it is hard to fit it all in. I make most of the food we eat and I need the space. The outside kitchen is a really nice feature but what am I supposed to fit in that fridge? It needs to be bigger. Why is there no sink in there as well? I know you have water back there for the 2nd bathroom and washer/dryer combo.
Fantastic motorcoach. I'm a fleetwood fan and the only complaint that I have is where the city water and black tank flush are located. It cheapened the look I think, put them in the wet bay. Overall a great unit.
Nice layout Mike, so it looks like you are back to using probe thru tank sensors for the holding tanks and no longer using sonic type sensors? Why the change?
I’ve been thinking about this model a lot and having two baths causes compromises that reduce the utility for full timer retired couple. I love the rear room as an office. However, because there is a desire to have a bathroom accessible to that rear bedroom you end up compromising the living room layout, the kitchen and the primary bath. Drop the half bath and you allow the following core changes: 1) move entry door back a few feet and you can now set the dinette across from the theater seats and have a televator or wall mounted television right across from the theater seats. The current off angle setup would be horrible for full timers. This also would create a living area that would not feel like it is on top of the kitchen. 2) Return the space of the half bath to the kitchen and bath area by converting the bath to a traditional walk through Class A bath and place it between the primary bedroom and the rear office/bunk room. I know there is a subset of people that want a bath between the primary bedroom and the living area but this would be the only compromise in the design and what you get by having just one bath is worth it to me. You’re never going to please everyone but with these changes I think you’ll have a category killer. If the two bath layout is a must then maybe explore these concepts with a longer chassis. I always want a better kitchen and my wife always wants a better bath. Right now, to get both we may need to go fifth wheel because most high end fifth wheels have proper residential ranges/ovens and for whatever reason Class A’s cut space to kitchens in favor of second couches and shorter lengths. We’re still a couple of years from retirement and I’m still learning so I know what to do when we pull the trigger. What’s confusing to this newbie is that in residential real estate kitchens and baths sell homes but those two are usually the most compromised things in motor homes. Makes no sense to me - with all of the space on a top end Class A RV there should always be at least two drawers in a primary bath. A kitchen should have a full size range and oven and at least 30” of lateral counter space dedicated as a work area - who really wants to cut onions on a sink insert or stovetop cover? A television should not be a neck wrecker and should be directly across from a pair of theater seats. “Sleeps 10!” is a nice slogan but this focus on sleeping capacity ignores a huge part of the market that sleeps 2 and sometimes has a guest or two - let’s take care of the paying customers - if my kid visits, I won’t mind throwing him up in the bed over the drivers seat.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing. As you mentioned it is very difficult to offer one single model that appeals to everyone. We have a full line of Class A motorhomes in both diesel and gas. It sounds like the Discovery LXE 40M would be perfect for you. 😉😁
@@fleetwoodrvas an opposing opinion😉, not having the half bath would literally be a show stopper for us. We don’t want the kids walking back and forth through our bedroom, to use the toilet.
Sir, everything you are describing can be found in another coach. Other than the fact that this lacks a living room and a fireplace it is the ONLY coach that has every feature my wife and I am looking for.
Sleeping space based on size of the people changes, but yes you could potentially sleep 6 or more. Two in the master bedroom, two in the KidKave using the jack-knife sofa, one or two in the Hide-a-Loft bed, one on the sofa, and one on the dinette that converts. This is a great family friendly layout.
richardlane3333 That is something that would have to be done after the purchase currently. This has been suggested multiple times so hopefully we can offer something like that in the future. Thanks for the input. - Mike -
It would meet our needs perfectly, if: 1) It was offered on one of your diesel pusher platforms, with much more Torque than the Ford Godzilla. I just don’t think we would be happy with the HP and Torque specifications I’ve read about in the gasoline powered Ford Godzilla… 2) do not like that TV position at all. We’d like it much better if it were on a telelevator platform, behind a dinette that would replace that current L-shaped dining/seating area. Love the layout. For us, it just needs to sit on a DP. We’re looking to buy in ‘25 or ‘26, so y’all still have time 😉
I’m thinking of getting one, but man is that TV in the living area awful!! Love to see with a booth dinette and tv behind it. That way your level from the recliners. Also, why is the toilet paper holder 6’ above the toilet in the kids bath?! That looks like a disaster for my little ones
We agree. We'd like to eventually do something similar in one of our diesels. However, we do have something similar in our Discovery LXE 44B that has a private room with bunks and a half bath. Check it out. www.fleetwoodrv.com/models/2025-discovery-lxe/
You say the TV is across from the chairs but it’s not - it’s up high and to the right - wish your figure out how to have it raise up from behind the dinette ACROSS from the chairs - also - what would it look like if you deleted the bath in the back and made a walk through bathroom between the master and the back room? Would it allow you to have a larger kitchen area? Imagine a version designed for a couple with an office in the rear - would fulfill what a. Empty nester traveling couple that’s still working would need
The 36Y is in the lead! - wish it had a King bed and a slide on the driver’s side. And 335hp? Seems low for the size. Gonna make it through the hills of TN or out west okay?
Jason, on the 335HP - this comes directly from Ford. The torque remains the same which is an important factor when traveling through the hills of TN or out west. Thanks for the comment and suggestions. We will let our team know.
I don’t like having a bathroom across from the kitchen. What if someone doing #2 or getting out the shower. It’s just not a good spot. I like everything else.
Unfortunately there isn't room for a stackable washer and dryer, but we will let the designers and engineers know that is something you are wanting. The 36Y does have 25 gallons of propane on board.
@@fleetwoodrv now let's not travel down that road. I bought my house thinking that the garage was mine. We talked about before we got married. 2.5 garage now and we share it. She shed. 😟🤔😂😂😂😂😂 yes honey.
Why don't you EVER tell what size the drop-down bunk is? They vary from a twin width to a queen width and everything between - but finding that information can be difficult.
OCCC or Occupant Cargo Carry Capacity is subject to many different variables, including the weight of occupants. It is best to discuss this with your dealer when selecting an RV. The 36Y is built on the 26,000 lb chassis from Ford, this should give you ample capacity to take your belongings and your family.
@@fleetwoodrv I realize there are different variables to what you load but knowing the cargo carrying capacity on the little yellow sticker can give us an idea of whether we can use it the way we want.
I really like this floor plan for our use-case/mission. (We have an adult special-needs child. I think there are more of us out here in this forgotten/neglected market segment than the class-A manufacturers realize.) I love the fact that the kids cave is in the back. This allows “full run” of the RV, without going through what would be his private room/space. …and the fact that it has its own half bath would mean that he wouldn’t have to “ever” come out of his room(which is highly stressful for him). In the kid cave, what is the length of the bunk bed, and also what is the length of the pull-out sofa bed, when in “bed mode”? The only real floor plan design limition I see for us(assuming the “kid beds” are big enough) is the lack of kitchen counter space. Please consider offering this floor plan available in on a diesel platform!
Make the back bedroom have multiple options when ordering. Maybe an office option or a large walk in closet option.
Thanks for the suggestion, we will let our design team know.
I concur here - a variant like this that is targeting a family is fantastic but full timers who work would love the ability to delete the bath and optimize for an office and extra storage/wardrobe
@@fleetwoodrv
...and make it snappy.
I’d like the option for the bedroom to be there but to add another sleeping bunk or more storage or play space instead of the extra toilet
This is so close to perfect, but I have 4 kids and need 4 bunks in the back!
The second bathroom sold me.This is the RV I was looking for.Outstanding presentation.
What a fantastic unit you really know your products Perfect length on the video just hat when others drag it out for an hour.
Thanks Dennis,
we appreciate you watching and commenting!
- Mike -
Love it it's amazing wow perfect to take the children and the grandparents
great, we are glad you like it.
Looks like someone recorded on "slow-mo" in the camera app 😂 Been there a time or five... Beautiful Fortis, great for families and it has a fifth wheel like feel to it with that separate bedroom with half bath!
CozyLivingMachine,
LOL. we are definitely not videographers! We learn something new not to do every time. Thank You for watching and commenting
- Mike -
Wow, you guys pulled out all the stops with this one!! Great floor plan for a small family. Awesome walk through, thanks 👍
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Nobody in the industry has more sleeping spaces than Fleetwood. I'm truly amazed by the use of specious space in this model 😍
Thanks for the feedback!
Love the floorplan and travel mode on the coach!
Glad to see that the right-side screen by the driver was moved to a more angled position than it has been on some of the models over the last few years! As noted with the other comments, so great that Fleetwood listens! The layout is pretty cool -- I really love the amount of room with the slides in. A few comments/constructive criticisms -- the l-shaped couch at the front looks a bit uncomfortable and cheap. While I get this is a more entry level coach, it could probably be made to look a little more comfy/padded with minor costs (or perhaps even a paid optional upgrade). There does not appear to be any other options on where to put the tv in that living area, but everyone will be straining their necks to watch with it so high up/ Also, another thing I assume that might be too much for this level of coach but I like the other commenter's point about configurable back rooms. Also, the bunk is high enough that it should have some small railing or other safety measure. Would love to see this layout in a Bounder!
Thanks for the feedback. The updated dash is great, and also has a "glove box" type storage area. We will share your comments with our design team.
I love the innovation y’all are bringing - I’m no engineer so this might not be possible but if you bring the entry door back to enter into the kitchen you could go next level with that booth design and have a televator integrated to put the TV across from the theater chairs. I understand if that’s not possible why you made the choice you did but I don’t understand doing the short fridge in the outside kitchen when there is plenty of space to fit a tall fridge. Outside kitchens are rare for Class A’s - let that bad boy shine. Tough call on whether to have that cooktop on the left or a proper sink - I’d appreciate either but would lean toward the sink as most RVers are particular about their cooktop/barbecue setups and are likely gonna bring their own and use the propane hookup OR you could have the best of all worlds and provide a hook setup to hang a propane cooktop on the outside of the RV by the propane setup
Golfinginthesun,
Those are all great ideas and I will be sure to share this with my engineering and design team. Thank You for watching and commenting !!
- Mike -
Love the kid cave!!! This RV just went to the top of my list. The kitchen is always a point of distention for me. We need more COUNTER SPACE. I know it is hard to fit it all in. I make most of the food we eat and I need the space. The outside kitchen is a really nice feature but what am I supposed to fit in that fridge? It needs to be bigger. Why is there no sink in there as well? I know you have water back there for the 2nd bathroom and washer/dryer combo.
Thanks for the feedback. We’re glad you like the 36Y. We’ll be sure to share your feedback with the design team.
Fantastic motorcoach. I'm a fleetwood fan and the only complaint that I have is where the city water and black tank flush are located. It cheapened the look I think, put them in the wet bay. Overall a great unit.
martymalone4094,
Thanks for watching and commenting, all the feedback is great and we will deliver back to our design team.
- Mike -
Nice layout Mike, so it looks like you are back to using probe thru tank sensors for the holding tanks and no longer using sonic type sensors? Why the change?
Realy I like this RVs
ioanbota
Thanks, this really is a neat floorplan. we appreciate you watching and commenting !
- Mike -
I’ve been thinking about this model a lot and having two baths causes compromises that reduce the utility for full timer retired couple.
I love the rear room as an office. However, because there is a desire to have a bathroom accessible to that rear bedroom you end up compromising the living room layout, the kitchen and the primary bath.
Drop the half bath and you allow the following core changes:
1) move entry door back a few feet and you can now set the dinette across from the theater seats and have a televator or wall mounted television right across from the theater seats. The current off angle setup would be horrible for full timers. This also would create a living area that would not feel like it is on top of the kitchen.
2) Return the space of the half bath to the kitchen and bath area by converting the bath to a traditional walk through Class A bath and place it between the primary bedroom and the rear office/bunk room.
I know there is a subset of people that want a bath between the primary bedroom and the living area but this would be the only compromise in the design and what you get by having just one bath is worth it to me. You’re never going to please everyone but with these changes I think you’ll have a category killer. If the two bath layout is a must then maybe explore these concepts with a longer chassis. I always want a better kitchen and my wife always wants a better bath. Right now, to get both we may need to go fifth wheel because most high end fifth wheels have proper residential ranges/ovens and for whatever reason Class A’s cut space to kitchens in favor of second couches and shorter lengths.
We’re still a couple of years from retirement and I’m still learning so I know what to do when we pull the trigger. What’s confusing to this newbie is that in residential real estate kitchens and baths sell homes but those two are usually the most compromised things in motor homes. Makes no sense to me - with all of the space on a top end Class A RV there should always be at least two drawers in a primary bath. A kitchen should have a full size range and oven and at least 30” of lateral counter space dedicated as a work area - who really wants to cut onions on a sink insert or stovetop cover? A television should not be a neck wrecker and should be directly across from a pair of theater seats. “Sleeps 10!” is a nice slogan but this focus on sleeping capacity ignores a huge part of the market that sleeps 2 and sometimes has a guest or two - let’s take care of the paying customers - if my kid visits, I won’t mind throwing him up in the bed over the drivers seat.
Great feedback, thanks for sharing. As you mentioned it is very difficult to offer one single model that appeals to everyone. We have a full line of Class A motorhomes in both diesel and gas. It sounds like the Discovery LXE 40M would be perfect for you. 😉😁
@@fleetwoodrvas an opposing opinion😉, not having the half bath would literally be a show stopper for us. We don’t want the kids walking back and forth through our bedroom, to use the toilet.
Thanks for the feedback. This was a key point for our designers.
Sir, everything you are describing can be found in another coach. Other than the fact that this lacks a living room and a fireplace it is the ONLY coach that has every feature my wife and I am looking for.
the return of the king (also is that 6 potential sleeping spaces in one RV???)
Sleeping space based on size of the people changes, but yes you could potentially sleep 6 or more.
Two in the master bedroom, two in the KidKave using the jack-knife sofa, one or two in the Hide-a-Loft bed, one on the sofa, and one on the dinette that converts. This is a great family friendly layout.
I must’ve missed the hide a loft bed??
Is there a door that separates the living area from the main bedroom for privacy?
Excellent and informative review. What is the tip to tip length? 36 feet?
Hi there, the overall length is 38'11".
@@fleetwoodrv Thank you. Beautiful and nice layout.
Great video. Thank you.
Anyway the kid cave could be converted to an office?
richardlane3333
That is something that would have to be done after the purchase currently. This has been suggested multiple times so hopefully we can offer something like that in the future. Thanks for the input.
- Mike -
It would meet our needs perfectly, if:
1) It was offered on one of your diesel pusher platforms, with much more Torque than the Ford Godzilla. I just don’t think we would be happy with the HP and Torque specifications I’ve read about in the gasoline powered Ford Godzilla…
2) do not like that TV position at all. We’d like it much better if it were on a telelevator platform, behind a dinette that would replace that current L-shaped dining/seating area.
Love the layout. For us, it just needs to sit on a DP. We’re looking to buy in ‘25 or ‘26, so y’all still have time 😉
thanks for the feedback. We've had several requests for something similar to this on a DP.
Very nice!
wheelinwiththeWatsons,
Thank You!!!
- Mike -
I’m thinking of getting one, but man is that TV in the living area awful!! Love to see with a booth dinette and tv behind it. That way your level from the recliners. Also, why is the toilet paper holder 6’ above the toilet in the kids bath?! That looks like a disaster for my little ones
Thanks for the feedback
Fantastic
lucymoonlight6729
Thanks for watching and commenting !
- Mike -
The couch in the kid cave, can that come out to put a desk there?
Nice setup
hessranch,
Thanks for the comment !
- Mike -
You should have this Floorplan on a diesel pusher
We agree. We'd like to eventually do something similar in one of our diesels. However, we do have something similar in our Discovery LXE 44B that has a private room with bunks and a half bath. Check it out. www.fleetwoodrv.com/models/2025-discovery-lxe/
Very nice
Do you happen to have a measurement for the jackknife sofa in the kid cave? I’m curious how long the bed would be.
The jackknife sofa in the Kid Kave is 61" long. Let us know if you need anymore info.
/I really like it the back bedroom could also be a guest room / office / yoga room
You say the TV is across from the chairs but it’s not - it’s up high and to the right - wish your figure out how to have it raise up from behind the dinette ACROSS from the chairs - also - what would it look like if you deleted the bath in the back and made a walk through bathroom between the master and the back room? Would it allow you to have a larger kitchen area? Imagine a version designed for a couple with an office in the rear - would fulfill what a. Empty nester traveling couple that’s still working would need
The 36Y is in the lead! - wish it had a King bed and a slide on the driver’s side. And 335hp? Seems low for the size. Gonna make it through the hills of TN or out west okay?
Jason, on the 335HP - this comes directly from Ford. The torque remains the same which is an important factor when traveling through the hills of TN or out west. Thanks for the comment and suggestions. We will let our team know.
@@fleetwoodrv another reason you’re in the lead = social listening. Thank you Fleetwood!
Excelente!!!
luiscabral329,
Thank You !!1
- Mike -
I don’t like having a bathroom across from the kitchen. What if someone doing #2 or getting out the shower. It’s just not a good spot. I like everything else.
I was thinking the same thing. I would make the half bathroom in the kids cave the pooping bathroom. 😂
What is the base weight? OCCC?
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Ticked every box except no propane and stackable washer/dryer.
Unfortunately there isn't room for a stackable washer and dryer, but we will let the designers and engineers know that is something you are wanting. The 36Y does have 25 gallons of propane on board.
Back bedroom made into MAN ❤CAVE. 😂😂😂❤❤😂😂😂🎉🎉
Yes! A traveling man cave sounds perfect... maybe a "she shed".
@@fleetwoodrv now let's not travel down that road. I bought my house thinking that the garage was mine.
We talked about before we got married. 2.5 garage now and we share it. She shed. 😟🤔😂😂😂😂😂 yes honey.
Why don't you EVER tell what size the drop-down bunk is? They vary from a twin width to a queen width and everything between - but finding that information can be difficult.
The drop down bed in the fortis is approx. 74" x 58".
I LOVE THE KID CAVE BUT I HAVE ADULT CHILDREN ~ CAN THOSE BEDS ACTUALLY SLEEP ADULTS .... I WOULD LOVE AN ADULT BUNK AREA T / Y
thanks for the feedback. The loft bed in the Kid Kave is a twin bed.
What is the Cargo carrying capacity?
OCCC or Occupant Cargo Carry Capacity is subject to many different variables, including the weight of occupants. It is best to discuss this with your dealer when selecting an RV. The 36Y is built on the 26,000 lb chassis from Ford, this should give you ample capacity to take your belongings and your family.
@@fleetwoodrv I realize there are different variables to what you load but knowing the cargo carrying capacity on the little yellow sticker can give us an idea of whether we can use it the way we want.
Average OCCC on a 36Y is 5,982 lbs from the factory. Hope this helps, travel safe.
@@fleetwoodrv yes it does. Thank you
I really like this floor plan for our use-case/mission. (We have an adult special-needs child. I think there are more of us out here in this forgotten/neglected market segment than the class-A manufacturers realize.)
I love the fact that the kids cave is in the back. This allows “full run” of the RV, without going through what would be his private room/space. …and the fact that it has its own half bath would mean that he wouldn’t have to “ever” come out of his room(which is highly stressful for him).
In the kid cave, what is the length of the bunk bed, and also what is the length of the pull-out sofa bed, when in “bed mode”?
The only real floor plan design limition I see for us(assuming the “kid beds” are big enough) is the lack of kitchen counter space.
Please consider offering this floor plan available in on a diesel platform!