I need to be in that studio because 3 white ppl in a studio discussing black issues is very disrespectful. Conservatives are EVIL. I'm not even a Democrat but Conservatives are hands down the biggest liars EVER.
Sure certain 'Welfare Polices'( And Medicare/Medicaid in a form reparations for Black Americans might be not such a bad thing)can be helpful,but u don't want to incentify someone not to work,because it's been shown not to be too successful in the past!!.Just like if a person wins money gambling in some fashion, ' money found ( as the saying goes) they tend to be less prudent& more capricious as opposed to money which has been earned through hard work! And I dont agree when comparisons are made with Europe (Scandinavia,France,Holland and Germany come to mind) because those countries did'nt just arrive at those junctures over night,hey took hundreds of yrs to establish a certain mindset and Philosophy towards paying higher Taxes ( Something that Americans find hard to wrap their head around!) And on ' The White Saviour compex' the Dude who owned up to it with such pride,made me cringe! If u wish to be charitable,then do so with everyone& anyone,but directing it at Minorities is so 'Lets occupy the moral high ground' and f##king condescending to say the least!
"You're not letting me have my own voice." "How? You're speaking now." "You're cutting her off." "Well, I feel like I have to." 🤦♀️ how does this guy say things like this and not see how ridiculous he is?
i looked it up and the per capita difference is a factor of about 1.6🤣🤣 it sounded like at first he was talking total (which is a stupid metric bc duh total wealth is gonna be larger if there’s MORE people in that group)… but even that’s only like 10x more. my guy was tweakin but so confident about it too
It makes sense. Like every multi billionaire is white and they have so much wealth that ignoring them by going from mean to mode salary drops it nationwide by several thousand dollars per year. One multi billionaire probably has more wealth than like all black americans combined, and then you have the others and then finally normal white people. I really would like to see the racial/gender numbers with them removed because those like 40 people have unfathomable wealth and only barely like poor whites more than poor blacks.
Just giving people money often does not materially change their lives, strings attached or not. A quick Google shows that 70% of lottery winners are broke within a few years. Money is a bandaid on a gaping wound that is a lifetyle/culture that needs to change for longterm success.
NFL players are broke within a few years on average as well. You just gotta be responsible with money. Marshawn Lynch had a great speech about this lol
The attitude will only change when black people take ownership for their own problems and issues and try to be good parents instead of trying to blame white people for all their problems... plenty of good black people getting on with good lives, others need to follow their lead instead of just blaming others
Ooh, i loved you pointing out that MLK was not a particularly good man. For some our society we have a tendency to talk about historical figures in absolutes. MLK said some good things, therefore we are supposed to treat everything he may have said as gospel. Columbus did some good things so some try to idolize him, whereas some terrible things were done to natives by his explorations therefore he was terrible. The Founding Fathers owned slaves so we must discount everything good they did. It is ridiculous. Good people make mistakes, it doesn't undo the good. Not so good people can still accomplish great things and it is ok to acknowledge the good and the bad. We can learn from both. I will say that when kids are younger it is probably better to accentuate the good more than the bad, but to ignore it completely can be as harmful as focusing too much on the bad.
Destiny stated that he made more comments that didn’t make the Final Cut, it seems Alec was more bombastic even if annoying so he got more lines in the final episode
its an old saying but has a lot of truth to it. it simply means don't throw out something valuable when you dispose of something useless or bad. in this context it had nothing to do with abortion....
On reparations, i feel like instead of giving black people, it should be invested more into inner-city schools and neighborhoods to provide better resources and opportunities. I think one thing the liberals glossed over is that funding of majority black communities starts at the state level and in a lot of liberal states, their policies do not end up helping black people at all. Johnny Harris did an op-ed on this for the NY times. People should give it a listen.
Off the top of my head, I think of funding for textbooks that are up to date, new computers, school renovations, etc. One thing i hated about BLM was that the amount of money they made didn't do any of those things. Another thing is that at certain city council meetings that focus on affordable housing are more often voted in favor of single family homes even though more affordable housing would probably alleviate the homelessness issues in places like California and NY, and these are liberals voting agaisnt this. I don't think flat out giving black people money will be beneficial, but utilizing money at the base level towards better resources will set the community on the right path. I'm a black non-conservative/non-liberal, so I don't have an extreme take on a topic like this, but in my experience, i don't know many black people that are active in their community council meetings to vote on issues that directly affect their communites, so it's also on black people to step up and not just the local governments.
@@DramaStar754just giving housing to the homeless doesn’t alleviate homelessness. They would need to go to rehab to get off drugs and/or get mental health treatment and/or get a job or enter some kind of job training that guarantees a job.
@ca8944 I'm not saying just give housing to the homeless, I'm saying there are people who have full-time jobs that can't even afford housing there. If housing were more affordable, less homelessness would be a result. This may be a surprise, but not everyone that is homeless is like that because they're on drugs or mentally unwell. There are people that choose to live in tents because they can't keep up with the rising cost of living, so again, it starts at the base level of policy creation to solve these issues.
I agree with you. It does incentivize them to not do a whole lot. I’m telling you as a 44-year-old person who used welfare in my 20s. Of course they encourage you to go to work, help you with your résumé ,provide you with all the resources to go to school but they’re not gonna help you become a doctor or lawyer . They will train you to be a dental assistant, or a file clerk. But some of those really worthwhile trades you have to go pay for yourself. A parent doesn’t qualify if they admit the “non custodial parent” is still around helping them. There will be issues with the benefits if they reconcile and come back. Part of the application process is to file for child support and collect. Whatever you can from that absent parent.. so it’s definitely discouraging a two parent family home. Couples can apply together, but they’ve got to be completely broke both of them unemployed. They can’t even say they just barely got a job and haven’t got paid. They will count that. I think there’s nothing wrong with getting a little help when you’re down but it’s not set up in a way that makes clients feel comfortable about getting off. The policies are set up in a way that people are scared to get off or tell the truth about their family structure. It’s a lot more complex than that. I totally agree with the conservatives as a former sociology student and welfare recipient and someone who was going to go into the field of social work. from being on the program and working as an intern in the human resources office I changed my mind about going into that field. It’s not helping people. California here
People in general need to get over the whole skin color game. We personally have many racial mixes in our family and all families get along just fine. I also have friends in many ethnicities. I believe people want to be treated as people. Why can't everyone do that? I believe most people want to. Love your shows Amala. I appreciate that you try too make sense of an insane world
In Louisiana and Texas many ppl who identify as blk have someone in the family Predominantly European ethnic somewhere in the tree but don't claim all their ethnicities and IMO they should accept all their ethnicities at that point and just be American because how long can we guess which percentages was slavery fault. Its the same for ppl predominantly European ethnic with 20-30% I. The south with a grandparent Predominantly African ethnic. Most ppl mixed in America fall back into yt or blk boxes which is why I think race a joke and it's should be an American only option in American culture since Americans like to call everything a community and culture 😅
I'm very surprised that someone actually brought up the Irish slaved in north America. I have been able to document 2 people on my mother's side that were actual slaves (not indentured servants) in Virginia in the early 1700's. They escaped to the Carolina region. Their children went back up north and became officers in George Washington's army, fighting the British. After the war they moved back to the Carolina region and reunited with the parents (escaped Irish slaves). Do I get forty acres and a mule???
There is fact checkers that say that the Irish were never slaves. I find that to be Democrats of today to cover it up so they can pander to Blacks. I dont know if Whites ever got reparations for being in the White slave trade but I highly doubt it.
Semi-related to the topic, I'm metis living in Canada, and while going through school and covid, there was financial assistance readily available to me. While I did desperately need it and could see the "reparations" side of it, I kept finding myself wondering what support white people in my same situation would have. I see the answer now in the increased homeless population in my city. We need support available for all people, not just select minorities, and especially not based on something so superficial as race.
On the topic of welfare in Hungary - yes, they do give huge variety of financial support for families, also a contribution for building a family house, even bigger for one in the countryside. However, it is often not enough, especially taking into account the current economic crisis that is hitting Hungary the hardest out of the countries in the region. I came back from Hungary to my country of origin a little over year ago, and most of the things were cheaper than in my home country, now - everything is on average 30% more expensive. And the Hungarians have always been earning poorly comapred to other countries in the EU. I’m no economist, and I’m sure there are a lot of factors at play, but my message is: Hungary’s policy on families may sound good in theory, but if you have the whole picture of the country , it is not a heaven for families, and a lot of Hungarians complain about the giving away so much money at random.
I was a homeless veteran, for two decades, and addicted to crack. Wish I was there to throw down with him. I just would have tossed him some real-life facts.
Amala, your point about ideologues . . . _funny you should mention that_ . . . Right now, I'm embroiled in a discussion with a PhD with whom I went to college, a guy semi-famous in comic book circles due to his dissertation. His premise is that anything - *_ANYTHING_* - coming out of Prager U, or out of Candace Owens' mouth is wrong. I am unable to even show him how preposterous that is to say about ANYONE. When I ask him to dispute specific facts cited in the videos, he refuses, instead sharing videos on completely different subjects, generally "[Person associated with Prager U] = BAD!" There is no changing his mind because he is completely unaware that the one he has is malfunctioning.
Everyone on this episode was able to have very productive conversations...except Alec. He is so pompous and refused to listen to anyone. The fact the he said he wanted to help black people but wouldn't try to understand those right in front of him is so telling. Both sides have issues, but being able to communicate is key.
In this country, for many years it was considered rude or poor form to discuss politics with company that might not share similar thoughts, and while this may be socially reasonable, democracy demands discussion. There was a time when perhaps reasonable people elected to political offices would have those discussion on the behalf of the public, but the drive for re-election amongst those people today has resulted in a rhetorical fight club that has drawn us all into their fights. It was largely nice to see a largely well-reasoned, reasonable and polite discussion. There needs to be a grass roots campaign to create just that, a reasoned and polite discussion of issues of the day where the American public, across party lines, leads elected officials and sets policy and agendas, not the other way around. If they are public servants, then the public needs to speak clearly as to what they want and how best they are served.
My dads a physician, and he knew an older physician (PCP) who was very thorough with his non-black patients but he literally would not touch his black patients. He would listen to their concerns and diagnose and treat them without touching them. 😬
The problem is that society is broken as a whole but black culture just broke first and fell to sin faster. The music, the vulgar dancing, the sex, drugs, violence. That was not their culture. but money incentives people to do stupid things. And now this new culture has completely eradicated the old one and tries to convince people it's the og. And if u disagree and say it's reprehensible or shameful behavior. Oh, it's my culture. It's not. Mlk would never. Aretha Franklin would never. Jackie Robinson would never. They were hard-working, family oriented members of society. They probably had flaws, but they certainly wouldn't be condoning any of this nonsense. None of this is gonna change unless it happens from the inside of the community.
You know who caused the drugs and the violence? The cia allowing drugs to go into predominantly black neighborhoods during the time when black militias (crips) were having internal problems due to their leader going to prison. Which changed the environment in these communities that have already experience racism, police brutality and income inequality but now has to face a bigger threat which is militias turning into gangs and killing each other. I might be bias leftist but you can’t ignore reality and what caused this culture..
People in the USA will argue about wanting “free healthcare” , then finally get it and wonder then why their taxes have skyrocketed?? Free health care is NOT free. In any country. Someone is paying for it and it’s usually the general working society that do. Example average combined sales tax is 6 percent in the USA. Europes average is 21 percent. In the USA the average workers net tax is 24 percent and in Europe it is 47 percent with even Belgium having the highest. So if you want to welcome this “free health care” then by all means. ( also healthcare only free in most eu countries for those on low income. Higher income earners till get insurance the same as usa)
I LOVE when people who have never experienced welfare or the people who make a career out of welfare are so defensive of it. As someone who had to live on welfare for the first 10 years of my adult life, I can assure you that the worst part of welfare is how the system is literally stacked against you. It's hard to get off of welfare or want to get off of welfare when you finally get that full time job that pays above minimum wage but the cost of living off of welfare is so high that it is SOOOOO much easier to keep that part time minimum wage job along with nearly free housing and keep that $300+ a kid food stamps money. My neighbors who were JOBLESS were buying choice cut STEAKS let that sink in. They sold their food stamps for alcohol (among other things). While that full time worker is paying their way and barely paying their bills. Maybe if we weren't paying all that tax money into welfare perhaps we could afford our bills.
Is there a possibility for Europeans to get reparations from north African countries for the white slave trade? Would reparations fix cultural issues and what to do when the money has been spent? Are all the problems then magically not there anymore? As a norwegian with one of the world's best welfare systems,we have a black minority who face the exact same problems here, as in the US. Black people grow up without fathers, cause financial support for moms raising kids alone get more financial support.
the Hungarian government is rhetorically supporting all families. irl their policy supports middle and upper-class nuclear families, outcasting single-parent households and lower-class families including the large percentage of Roma families. e.g. money is given to families where the 3rd child is born and the parents already have enough equity to build/buy a family house, thus further widening the economic gap between social groups. There is nothing like a gramma allowance (???), they do not even support families taking care of heavily disabled or chronically ill family members requiring 24/7 assistance.
35:37 that is how it works even with jobs. My husband's company can't get certain federal kick backs unless we have 1 black person & 1 women... its litteraly an environmental job that cleans & prevents pollution... they have plenty of wemon & its not like they don't want black ppl, its litteraly just the job is so taxing its ONLY my husband & his friend (new higher) doing the job... you have to be able to hold 300lb on your shoulder for about 8+ hours, have a CDL, & have a Hazwaper... then you have to be ok with leaving for out of state for a week at a time with almost no warning... 🤷♀️ if you meet them requirements & are a dedicated employee, they really want you... but government would rather pollution in the name of affirmative action.
Why Americans talk always about race and politics sides about people??? Here in Spain, I have friends from all colors and from any political side and I love when we meet because as we are soooo different and we are friends we can have nice conversations or debates without canceling each other…
Alec to me fully exposed himself at the end when he goes “oh no I’ve triggered THEM ALL!” like saying “them all” just after he’s spent the last like few hours just relentlessly arguing for rights of black Americans it just like made me stop and pause it and I was like that’s who he is
"They laid me off". "Oh man, you gonna be alright"! "Yeah I'll be alright. I'm gonna get on the welfare for a while. So when people ask me if I'm doing okay. I can say, well fair". 😁 Old school SNL is definitely better.
have you applied anywhere where you are vaguely qualified to get hire? Your race will make it much easier to get said job and then once in it will be easier for leadership role. Nearly every fortune 500 company at their quartlry stock meeting talk about how they are actively pushing DEI with no stated goals to when when is enough
@@carsandsports123 How so? How does DEI cause people to hire unqualified people? Either you are qualified or you are not, right? You are saying I can come in with some but not sufficient work experience and minimal education and get any role I want? I am trying to understand the opportunities thrown at my feet, because I certainly want to take advantage of those.
If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day, but, if you teach him to fish, he will eat for a lifetime, (to add to this) if he then teaches his children, they too can eat for a lifetime. P.S. lady lefty, bc I’m left handed! lol
My grandma was black, grew up in jim crow era America and not once did she ever blame white people for her problems or demand that someone help her financially. She was a tough, hard working single mother of 2. I find it insulting to say that black people need more help because of past atrocities, We're just like everyone else.
i assuming you're white, so your gradma to never be pissed at white ppl for causing so much destruction upon her community... I'ts because either she didn't care for her community or isn't much a vocal person when it comes to these issues. either way, your ancestors cause havoc into our community and it got to a point where our culture is being poisened by powerful white people putting money into our music, movies and whatever and promoting BS.
What she said at the end is exactly right when you get this savior complex you put yourself on a pedestal above others... so if you're looking at black people as a group of people that need to be saved by you.... you're deciding that they're too ignorant or incompetent to choose for themselves as individuals not a group what's best for them... that's not getting rid of racism that's what fuels racism. And the ignorance and ego on that dude...... it's just wild how people can be blind to their own egotistical and/or narcissistic ways.
It's pretty stupid to say your grandma was living under Jim Crow and not blame white people? She literally could not vote lmao. She couldn't buy property where she wanted not because of her inability to afford it, but because of her race. Imagine how much more money she would have had if not for those draconian racist laws?
No, Alec is not a weak man, he made a mistake and everyone pounced on him making everyone else seem more weak actually because they unlike him did not give a corrective answer. Actually Alec as he said was speaking for himself so a "Smart Alec" and the older lady was really great she just didn't know shit about taxes. Alec is creating informational wealth weather you hate him or not it's there and people learn hugely bc he was not afraid to get killed over his honesty. A weak man would not admit he was cringe, he himself accepted the benefit of the doubt that "maybe I am cringe" that's not weakness tho to admit.
@@d3clips391strongly disagree with your assessment. Constant straw man arguments. Coming at everyone as if he’s got all the right answers. Absolutely childish and completely lacking in any wisdom. Intelligence means nothing the way he uses it. I might not say he’s a weak man pre se, but I would say with certainty that he is extremely shallow and intellectually devious. Definitely the worst of the bunch. Horrible mindset and honestly just makes the left look bad. He is the meme of this panel without question.
@@drockopotamus1 He probably did, but like someone who had been on there before had said, they're usually there for HOURS discussing this stuff, but they only pick the most controversial takes for views.
@@sykotika13thirteen Imo you should Because the democrats listen to woke people like Alec more than they do a traditional Liberal I was a traditional Liberal but conservatism is much closer to me than the woke Democrats are
I think by skipping the trump argument you missed Alec say to the face of a black conservative "I believe those who disagree with me are all racist. If you disagree with me you are racist". He was a total child.
@@timweber1695 Don't be like that. Destiny is a decent dude. Go watch some of his Rittenhouse talks. He is definitely liberal, but he is not a complete moron like TYT, Sam Seder, Hasan, etc.
If Alec is the “future “ population, I’m deeply scared, as a country we are screwed if people have the same mindset he has. He has a delusional saver complex
Mr. Alec "I used to be cringe" Was simping for cookies in Hasans chat and claimed Aliya only looked black cuz of her hair. This is what we're dealing with. And yeah, Destiny almost fell out of his chair cringing when he heard it later.
Summary: Xaviaer is based, obviously. The other 2 black women are based, and chandler is just a smart teenager. Destiny is the most reasonable of the libtards, Alec would not let anyone talk who he disagreed with, the white girl was lowkey based, and the dude with messed up hair and the weird t shirt is just weird.
@@omgwerockhard he seems the most intelligent of all of them though. Alec just can't get over his emotions, especially his rant about working at a nursing home at the end. Good on him for helping old people who were dying of Covid, but he made it all about himself because of how emotional he got
@@omgwerockhard it’s funny how he’s hated by both people of the right and the left, people on the right like conservatives hate on him calling him a blue hair democrat loser who plays games all day and in contrast, on the left (radical left) I’ve seen them call destiny a racist, transphobe, Nazi who is secretly conservative 😂 so it’s funny to see both sides
Affirmative Action reminds me of when adults would let me win when playing games. That is why people will get mad when you didn't allow them to win. I think winning should be because of my skills.
Definition of someone with a saviour complex If he put this much effort and passion into his own life as he does forcing his "help" on others He would be a billionaire by now and be able to actually help some people I can't stand him though
He constantly talked over everyone, and with every question he stated as if it proves his viewpoint they had a reasonable logical response that he just dismissed because it goes against his stance. He did not debate well at all, yet likely believed he came out on top. He also is unopen to listening to new ideas, but is stuck to the narrative of his ideology. A poster child for virtue signaling.
I hope Alec isn't the average liberal, cuz in my opinion he makes them look bad. I feel the conservatives really did well, so did the liberals especially destiny, except Alec ofcourse. Bro had to include Elon Musk for literally no reason
@@deeky1239Where you there? How do you know what was said if it was cut? I agree he came off as a teen who knows more than everyone but only knows the surface level stuff. Xavier was MVP of the conversation I feel.
Just crazy to me that we have black Americans trying to explain things to white Americans, and the white Americans are refusing to listen as if they know more about the issue.. it's crazy..
@@amandav5824 yeah! Black progressive wouldn’t even try to listen. Their reason is just racist. This is racist That is racist. Even choosing white chocolate is racist
Welfare is based on income level. Two incomes are typically more than one. Removing the low income requirement of welfare is the worst idea I’ve ever heard. And that’s the only way to not incentivize a man leaving the home while still providing assistance.
@@microphonejacketNot really. I think there are a lot of gay people that are conservative. Ofc not as much as "liberals" but people need to understand that you don't need to agree with conservatives on every single thing to be conservative. Personally, I only support conservative economy, because economy is a priority for me.
I worked two jobs in college and grad school. I'm black and my parents were actually relatively well off. I did it so I could get used to being off my parents' teet. Lol I guess I was Republican all along!!!
Don't fall into their nonsense. I was a black well off man, that has nothing to do with the bastardization of history conservatives pull, the attempt at burying black American history and contributions to society, and the impacts of red lining on black Americans collectively. It's actually an insult to the ancestors to claim conservative due to all of the foolishness and hateful rhetoric they have pushed over the centuries.
I have considered myself pretty liberal for years now but lately I’ve been getting so sick of the constant push to have to agree with all extreme leftist ideas, lest you be labelled a bigot. I wish I could show this video to all black leftists, because for a long time I’ve really struggled how to express to those people that ‘No I swear I’m not racist, but I don’t think what you’re expecting is fair, and there are plenty of other black people who are also of an opposite opinion to you; so how do you get to say “this is the correct opinion, otherwise you’re racist” and believe that only you hold the correct opinion, OVER other black people?
Alec is the type of person who can’t look like the bad guy in any situation, always has to add ways of why he is amazing. It’s almost narcissistic. I know a few people who will say all they’ve done but in reality they did it to make themselves look good.
When that Alec guy told homeboy to “just breathe” I wanted to jump through my screen and fight him 😂😂 The gaslighting is real!! Oooh he has me sweating.
What we as a community are needing is the moral compass that a working family traditionally brought before the government replaced the father in a large number of homes.
There’s more to the destruction of the nuclear family than the existence of welfare. I’m a single mom and I don’t qualify for government assistance. I am struggling financially and still make too much money. I could get a job that pays me less but that would mean a shitty apartment in a shitty neighborhood and that’s not what’s best for my daughter. For me, there’s no financial incentive to not have her father around. Actually, staying with her dad would have benefited me. I don’t want to say people are being lazy and choosing the welfare life but… idk. Maybe it’s something else.
I briefly dated a woman who was on assistance. Every week, she would arrange that her hours at her job were reduced so as not to lose her benefits. I'm not saying that the hours would have made up for the assistance check, but the whole setup instilled in her the "this is my ceiling" mentality. I also had a supervisor at a 40-hour a week job that was definitely not stingy about offering overtime every weekend. This guy, a supervisor! had to make sure that he never got more than 35 hours or HIS benefits would have been cut. This was not a lazy man, either.
@@WakenerOne so maybe it’s not laziness. Maybe welfare breeds this mentality. It’s sad. There’s no chance for success if you’re purposely sabotaging yourself so you can get government assistance.
Around 35:32, the woman talking about how corporations seek diversity and the dude arguing against it saying that’s not how that works? How about I used to work at Publix and my title was cashier but I worked in customer service. I was LITERALLY told they have a matrix grid that tracks demographics and I couldn’t get promoted to full time customer service staff yet because they were only looking for men of color or women, not white men. I was literally told that by my manager. So yes, she is correct. I ended up stepping down and and two girls I TRAINED got the promotion.
I work for Progressive and every quarter the celebrate the amount of white men in leadership going down and these quarterly updates are always pushing to lower the line. Another real story of negative DEI in corporate America
When it comes to white people paying black people for past grievances, I just think something along the lines of “why should I pay you for something someone I never met did to someone you never met”
Alec starts out interrupting and talking over Chandler, then goes to being condescending, to attempting to speak for him and tell him what he supposedly thinks. It strikes me as him thinking this person is an inferior who has no right or no ability to speak his mind in Alec's presence.
Most of these arguements could be bettwr explained if we looked at people as classes instead of race. While there is a big overlap of poor and black, a lot of the same issues that "only affect black people" also have an effect on poor white, asian, latino, etc.
My favorite thing to do when watching Amalas livestreams while high, is to play the guitar so when she nods her head to the video, it looks like she's headbanging to my songs lol
Destiny hit some good points for the liberal side. The other guys were a bit overboard. The conservatives made alot of sense overall. Amala also made good points. Good debate.
I never comment to disagree but I disagree with ámalas comment on working college students. My husband worked three jobs and would fall asleep at the wheel trying to get to school . He failed out multiple times. Mind you he was a 3.8 high school student . So yes it is very hard for college students who have to work. Most of us dropped out🙂
@@ca8944 so here’s the thing , when you grow up not knowing anything but “ go to college “ you tend to just do what your parent tells you . His parent did just that and at 18 he followed the advice from them and every other adult . At the end of the day my husband graduated but the comment that we’re addressing is amala stating those people would excel even if they have to work multiple jobs .
@@ca8944 also I’m not sure if you’ve gone to college but if you are working and trying to keep up with a workload and your grade slips you get out on academic probation . Which depending on the school revokes your financial aid . We ended up paying out of pocket because if he got less then a C he would be in danger of losing financial aid again so after the first time we just paid for it
@@soulgamesss my sister had two kids while going to a University. She didn’t have a job but she got financial and( our father was murdered when she was in high school so we were low income since my mom only worked part time), and scholarships and loans. I hate that parents and high school counselors only push college and rarely talk about community colleges and trade schools. My daughter just finished trade school for welding. Cost $5000 for a year and will be making more than minimum wage and will increase with experience
@@soulgamesss yeah, I went to community college for two years after I got pregnant the 2nd semester of a University. I got financial aid and that other loan that you don’t pay back. I also worked part time. I never finished though and regret it but I might go to the same trade school to finish my accounting degree. I hate that colleges require a bunch of mostly useless classes to graduate with a degree. I don’t need a psychology or political science class to do accounting ffs. I think it’s best for students to work summers full time to pay for community college for the year while having a part time job that pays good like being a server. That seems like the practical thing to do instead of having two jobs during the school year or getting school loans that put them in debt for decades.
My new kitten is so much more cuddly than my other cat, and it's been such a nice addition to our family to get to have cuddles with her every day. She and the older cat are getting along fairly well, but I think our older cat sometimes gets overwhelmed and stressed about the kitten being all up in her business all the time. She swipes at her sometimes, which I think is good, because it's teaching the little one where her boundaries are. Hopefully once the kitten gets a little older, she'll chill out a bit and not be quite as playful, and maybe the older cat will be less stressed. Kitten's getting spayed next week, so maybe that will help. I'm curious to see how our older cat reacts to the little one coming home all loopy from the surgery. Maybe she'll take her under her wing with her mama instincts and take care of her. All in all, taking in this stray kitten has been a really positive decision for our little family. I'm glad the cats have been able to get along well enough for us to be able to keep the kitten. Their names are Gallifrey and Melody, both named after Doctor Who characters, which is my and my husband's favorite show. So... what I'm saying, of course, is that clearly there is no meritocracy in this country.
Just looked up the income information. White per capita income: $36,962 Black per capita income: $23,303 Asian per capita income: $40,878 Average American per Capita income: $37,638 That is definitely not 50 times more. If he meant 50% more, then he is correct. But the population is also White: 245,860,228 and Black: 46,261,485. So there are 5 times more white people.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that in the US the schools in richer neighbourhoods get much more money from the govt than those in poorer ones, adn that these poorer areas tend to (but not always) have higher ratio of black Americans. I would say that instead of reparations as such, perhaps the balance of the system could be equalised a bit more. Take some money from the highest funded and make sure it goes into worthwile educational projects and school facilities at the bottom. I think the education system would be a good starting point to give lower income families a better 'leg-up' to do what they want in their careers, and in time, could pull the entire community up. Balancing other aspects of the system would also be required but, like I said, I'm not an expert on the intricacies of the effects of your federal system in local communities.
The issue with that is some schools can hide how bad the students are doing in order to receive more money. I think it was a school in Baltimore that hid that many students couldn’t do math. Maybe instead of throwing money we try to see why some schools are failing that don’t necessarily have to do with funding.
Alec lacks the humility needed to be in any important position of power. He would inadvertently destroy those he seeks to save. LOVE Renee btw, you can hear the desperation in her voice as she sees The Dream that had been coming closer now slip away.
Sorry for the low sound at the beginning of the Jubilee vid, we fixed it after a minute or so!
I need to be in that studio because 3 white ppl in a studio discussing black issues is very disrespectful. Conservatives are EVIL. I'm not even a Democrat but Conservatives are hands down the biggest liars EVER.
Sorry isn't enough, we demand reparations.
Got to hand it to destiny, he was most sane white liberal on some these issues.
Sure certain 'Welfare Polices'( And Medicare/Medicaid in a form reparations for Black Americans might be not such a bad thing)can be helpful,but u don't want to incentify someone not to work,because it's been shown not to be too successful in the past!!.Just like if a person wins money gambling in some fashion, ' money found ( as the saying goes) they tend to be less prudent& more capricious as opposed to money which has been earned through hard work!
And I dont agree when comparisons are made with Europe (Scandinavia,France,Holland and Germany come to mind) because those countries did'nt just arrive at those junctures over night,hey took hundreds of yrs to establish a certain mindset and Philosophy towards paying higher Taxes ( Something that Americans find hard to wrap their head around!)
And on ' The White Saviour compex' the Dude who owned up to it with such pride,made me cringe! If u wish to be charitable,then do so with everyone& anyone,but directing it at Minorities is so 'Lets occupy the moral high ground' and f##king condescending to say the least!
Please comment about the Spain Football President Kiss. I can't understand all the fuss?
"You're not letting me have my own voice."
"How? You're speaking now."
"You're cutting her off."
"Well, I feel like I have to."
🤦♀️ how does this guy say things like this and not see how ridiculous he is?
And he was the same person who said that minorities should have a voice to speak out 💀
It's called trolling. It's like boys on XBox live growing up.
That one dude has the mind of a literal supervillain. "I'm gonna save you even if you don't want it." I've seen enough villain arcs in Marvel.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I didn’t look it up, but there’s no way in hell that white per capita is 50 times greater than black per capita. That’s such an asinine thing to say.
i looked it up and the per capita difference is a factor of about 1.6🤣🤣 it sounded like at first he was talking total (which is a stupid metric bc duh total wealth is gonna be larger if there’s MORE people in that group)… but even that’s only like 10x more. my guy was tweakin but so confident about it too
Myb look it up then dummy
It makes sense. Like every multi billionaire is white and they have so much wealth that ignoring them by going from mean to mode salary drops it nationwide by several thousand dollars per year. One multi billionaire probably has more wealth than like all black americans combined, and then you have the others and then finally normal white people. I really would like to see the racial/gender numbers with them removed because those like 40 people have unfathomable wealth and only barely like poor whites more than poor blacks.
Just giving people money often does not materially change their lives, strings attached or not. A quick Google shows that 70% of lottery winners are broke within a few years. Money is a bandaid on a gaping wound that is a lifetyle/culture that needs to change for longterm success.
NFL players are broke within a few years on average as well. You just gotta be responsible with money. Marshawn Lynch had a great speech about this lol
The attitude will only change when black people take ownership for their own problems and issues and try to be good parents instead of trying to blame white people for all their problems... plenty of good black people getting on with good lives, others need to follow their lead instead of just blaming others
This.
Rich men raise poor men.
Poor men raise rich men.
People learn to overcome adversity. Or they don’t.
@lynnsmith399 luckily there are always exceptions. Deion Sanders and Jordy Nelson come to mind
I’ll take a million and use it wisely but I don’t need expensive things to make me “happy”
Ooh, i loved you pointing out that MLK was not a particularly good man. For some our society we have a tendency to talk about historical figures in absolutes. MLK said some good things, therefore we are supposed to treat everything he may have said as gospel. Columbus did some good things so some try to idolize him, whereas some terrible things were done to natives by his explorations therefore he was terrible. The Founding Fathers owned slaves so we must discount everything good they did. It is ridiculous. Good people make mistakes, it doesn't undo the good. Not so good people can still accomplish great things and it is ok to acknowledge the good and the bad. We can learn from both.
I will say that when kids are younger it is probably better to accentuate the good more than the bad, but to ignore it completely can be as harmful as focusing too much on the bad.
I love this!! Very good comment, I agree completely. Nuance is required to understand how complex people can be.
Destiny stated that he made more comments that didn’t make the Final Cut, it seems Alec was more bombastic even if annoying so he got more lines in the final episode
“Throwing the baby out of the bath water”
Is one of the absolute worst expressions I’ve ever heard.
It's not OUT OF. It's OUT WITH the water.
@@BettyWhite2171exactly
@@BettyWhite2171 He's a conservationist. hehe
@@Dakarn Lol 😆
its an old saying but has a lot of truth to it. it simply means don't throw out something valuable when you dispose of something useless or bad. in this context it had nothing to do with abortion....
On reparations, i feel like instead of giving black people, it should be invested more into inner-city schools and neighborhoods to provide better resources and opportunities. I think one thing the liberals glossed over is that funding of majority black communities starts at the state level and in a lot of liberal states, their policies do not end up helping black people at all. Johnny Harris did an op-ed on this for the NY times. People should give it a listen.
Any specifics you could go in here? Though again I'm all for better funding those schools
This would make more sense then simply handing everyone a check.
Off the top of my head, I think of funding for textbooks that are up to date, new computers, school renovations, etc. One thing i hated about BLM was that the amount of money they made didn't do any of those things. Another thing is that at certain city council meetings that focus on affordable housing are more often voted in favor of single family homes even though more affordable housing would probably alleviate the homelessness issues in places like California and NY, and these are liberals voting agaisnt this. I don't think flat out giving black people money will be beneficial, but utilizing money at the base level towards better resources will set the community on the right path. I'm a black non-conservative/non-liberal, so I don't have an extreme take on a topic like this, but in my experience, i don't know many black people that are active in their community council meetings to vote on issues that directly affect their communites, so it's also on black people to step up and not just the local governments.
@@DramaStar754just giving housing to the homeless doesn’t alleviate homelessness.
They would need to go to rehab to get off drugs and/or get mental health treatment and/or get a job or enter some kind of job training that guarantees a job.
@ca8944 I'm not saying just give housing to the homeless, I'm saying there are people who have full-time jobs that can't even afford housing there. If housing were more affordable, less homelessness would be a result. This may be a surprise, but not everyone that is homeless is like that because they're on drugs or mentally unwell. There are people that choose to live in tents because they can't keep up with the rising cost of living, so again, it starts at the base level of policy creation to solve these issues.
I agree with you. It does incentivize them to not do a whole lot.
I’m telling you as a 44-year-old person who used welfare in my 20s. Of course they encourage you to go to work, help you with your résumé ,provide you with all the resources to go to school but they’re not gonna help you become a doctor or lawyer . They will train you to be a dental assistant, or a file clerk. But some of those really worthwhile trades you have to go pay for yourself.
A parent doesn’t qualify if they admit the “non custodial parent” is still around helping them. There will be issues with the benefits if they reconcile and come back. Part of the application process is to file for child support and collect. Whatever you can from that absent parent.. so it’s definitely discouraging a two parent family home. Couples can apply together, but they’ve got to be completely broke both of them unemployed. They can’t even say they just barely got a job and haven’t got paid. They will count that.
I think there’s nothing wrong with getting a little help when you’re down but it’s not set up in a way that makes clients feel comfortable about getting off. The policies are set up in a way that people are scared to get off or tell the truth about their family structure.
It’s a lot more complex than that. I totally agree with the conservatives as a former sociology student and welfare recipient and someone who was going to go into the field of social work. from being on the program and working as an intern in the human resources office I changed my mind about going into that field. It’s not helping people. California here
People in general need to get over the whole skin color game. We personally have many racial mixes in our family and all families get along just fine. I also have friends in many ethnicities. I believe people want to be treated as people. Why can't everyone do that? I believe most people want to. Love your shows Amala. I appreciate that you try too make sense of an insane world
In Louisiana and Texas many ppl who identify as blk have someone in the family Predominantly European ethnic somewhere in the tree but don't claim all their ethnicities and IMO they should accept all their ethnicities at that point and just be American because how long can we guess which percentages was slavery fault. Its the same for ppl predominantly European ethnic with 20-30% I. The south with a grandparent Predominantly African ethnic. Most ppl mixed in America fall back into yt or blk boxes which is why I think race a joke and it's should be an American only option in American culture since Americans like to call everything a community and culture 😅
I'm very surprised that someone actually brought up the Irish slaved in north America.
I have been able to document 2 people on my mother's side that were actual slaves (not indentured servants) in Virginia in the early 1700's. They escaped to the Carolina region. Their children went back up north and became officers in George Washington's army, fighting the British. After the war they moved back to the Carolina region and reunited with the parents (escaped Irish slaves).
Do I get forty acres and a mule???
There is fact checkers that say that the Irish were never slaves. I find that to be Democrats of today to cover it up so they can pander to Blacks. I dont know if Whites ever got reparations for being in the White slave trade but I highly doubt it.
The existence of a disparity is not evidence of race-based discrimination
Semi-related to the topic, I'm metis living in Canada, and while going through school and covid, there was financial assistance readily available to me. While I did desperately need it and could see the "reparations" side of it, I kept finding myself wondering what support white people in my same situation would have. I see the answer now in the increased homeless population in my city. We need support available for all people, not just select minorities, and especially not based on something so superficial as race.
On the topic of welfare in Hungary - yes, they do give huge variety of financial support for families, also a contribution for building a family house, even bigger for one in the countryside. However, it is often not enough, especially taking into account the current economic crisis that is hitting Hungary the hardest out of the countries in the region. I came back from Hungary to my country of origin a little over year ago, and most of the things were cheaper than in my home country, now - everything is on average 30% more expensive. And the Hungarians have always been earning poorly comapred to other countries in the EU. I’m no economist, and I’m sure there are a lot of factors at play, but my message is: Hungary’s policy on families may sound good in theory, but if you have the whole picture of the country , it is not a heaven for families, and a lot of Hungarians complain about the giving away so much money at random.
What you were speaking of when you speak about poverty, versus wealth, is not anything to do with affirmative action. That’s called “a scholarship“.
Many people like to discuss affirmative action, but far fewer mention legacy admissions. I wonder why?
there was a video from Jubilee or a different YT channel similar to it that discussed legacy admissions.
great episode , actualy felt like they were hearing one another rather than trying to shout each other down.
Just want to say Mr. Cam has been looking really great and healthy lately! Happy for y’all’s success.
I was a homeless veteran, for two decades, and addicted to crack. Wish I was there to throw down with him. I just would have tossed him some real-life facts.
Amala, your point about ideologues . . . _funny you should mention that_ . . .
Right now, I'm embroiled in a discussion with a PhD with whom I went to college, a guy semi-famous in comic book circles due to his dissertation. His premise is that anything - *_ANYTHING_* - coming out of Prager U, or out of Candace Owens' mouth is wrong. I am unable to even show him how preposterous that is to say about ANYONE. When I ask him to dispute specific facts cited in the videos, he refuses, instead sharing videos on completely different subjects, generally "[Person associated with Prager U] = BAD!" There is no changing his mind because he is completely unaware that the one he has is malfunctioning.
Every time I want to comment something, you say it for me, Amala. I love it lol.
Everyone on this episode was able to have very productive conversations...except Alec. He is so pompous and refused to listen to anyone. The fact the he said he wanted to help black people but wouldn't try to understand those right in front of him is so telling. Both sides have issues, but being able to communicate is key.
tearing the families apart is what will keep the rest of america from generational wealth...just what the richest families in America want.
damn she even got the OG intro animation for this one
In this country, for many years it was considered rude or poor form to discuss politics with company that might not share similar thoughts, and while this may be socially reasonable, democracy demands discussion. There was a time when perhaps reasonable people elected to political offices would have those discussion on the behalf of the public, but the drive for re-election amongst those people today has resulted in a rhetorical fight club that has drawn us all into their fights. It was largely nice to see a largely well-reasoned, reasonable and polite discussion. There needs to be a grass roots campaign to create just that, a reasoned and polite discussion of issues of the day where the American public, across party lines, leads elected officials and sets policy and agendas, not the other way around. If they are public servants, then the public needs to speak clearly as to what they want and how best they are served.
My dads a physician, and he knew an older physician (PCP) who was very thorough with his non-black patients but he literally would not touch his black patients. He would listen to their concerns and diagnose and treat them without touching them. 😬
The problem is that society is broken as a whole but black culture just broke first and fell to sin faster. The music, the vulgar dancing, the sex, drugs, violence. That was not their culture. but money incentives people to do stupid things. And now this new culture has completely eradicated the old one and tries to convince people it's the og. And if u disagree and say it's reprehensible or shameful behavior. Oh, it's my culture. It's not. Mlk would never. Aretha Franklin would never. Jackie Robinson would never. They were hard-working, family oriented members of society. They probably had flaws, but they certainly wouldn't be condoning any of this nonsense. None of this is gonna change unless it happens from the inside of the community.
You know who caused the drugs and the violence? The cia allowing drugs to go into predominantly black neighborhoods during the time when black militias (crips) were having internal problems due to their leader going to prison. Which changed the environment in these communities that have already experience racism, police brutality and income inequality but now has to face a bigger threat which is militias turning into gangs and killing each other. I might be bias leftist but you can’t ignore reality and what caused this culture..
People in the USA will argue about wanting “free healthcare” , then finally get it and wonder then why their taxes have skyrocketed?? Free health care is NOT free. In any country. Someone is paying for it and it’s usually the general working society that do. Example average combined sales tax is 6 percent in the USA. Europes average is 21 percent. In the USA the average workers net tax is 24 percent and in Europe it is 47 percent with even Belgium having the highest. So if you want to welcome this “free health care” then by all means. ( also healthcare only free in most eu countries for those on low income. Higher income earners till get insurance the same as usa)
In Canada they dont want to treat people with all that free health care they have. They tell people to euthanize themselves.
I LOVE when people who have never experienced welfare or the people who make a career out of welfare are so defensive of it. As someone who had to live on welfare for the first 10 years of my adult life, I can assure you that the worst part of welfare is how the system is literally stacked against you. It's hard to get off of welfare or want to get off of welfare when you finally get that full time job that pays above minimum wage but the cost of living off of welfare is so high that it is SOOOOO much easier to keep that part time minimum wage job along with nearly free housing and keep that $300+ a kid food stamps money.
My neighbors who were JOBLESS were buying choice cut STEAKS let that sink in.
They sold their food stamps for alcohol (among other things). While that full time worker is paying their way and barely paying their bills.
Maybe if we weren't paying all that tax money into welfare perhaps we could afford our bills.
10:48 "What a simplistic view."
I think I just discoreved my new favourite intellectual insult! 🤩
Is there a possibility for Europeans to get reparations from north African countries for the white slave trade?
Would reparations fix cultural issues and what to do when the money has been spent? Are all the problems then magically not there anymore?
As a norwegian with one of the world's best welfare systems,we have a black minority who face the exact same problems here, as in the US. Black people grow up without fathers, cause financial support for moms raising kids alone get more financial support.
the Hungarian government is rhetorically supporting all families. irl their policy supports middle and upper-class nuclear families, outcasting single-parent households and lower-class families including the large percentage of Roma families. e.g. money is given to families where the 3rd child is born and the parents already have enough equity to build/buy a family house, thus further widening the economic gap between social groups. There is nothing like a gramma allowance (???), they do not even support families taking care of heavily disabled or chronically ill family members requiring 24/7 assistance.
35:37 that is how it works even with jobs. My husband's company can't get certain federal kick backs unless we have 1 black person & 1 women... its litteraly an environmental job that cleans & prevents pollution... they have plenty of wemon & its not like they don't want black ppl, its litteraly just the job is so taxing its ONLY my husband & his friend (new higher) doing the job... you have to be able to hold 300lb on your shoulder for about 8+ hours, have a CDL, & have a Hazwaper... then you have to be ok with leaving for out of state for a week at a time with almost no warning... 🤷♀️ if you meet them requirements & are a dedicated employee, they really want you... but government would rather pollution in the name of affirmative action.
Why Americans talk always about race and politics sides about people??? Here in Spain, I have friends from all colors and from any political side and I love when we meet because as we are soooo different and we are friends we can have nice conversations or debates without canceling each other…
Democrats focus more on demographics than policy since Obama and it slowly escalated from there
They do NOT have to steal. They need gainful employment.
Welfare screwed up the black family!
Alec to me fully exposed himself at the end when he goes “oh no I’ve triggered THEM ALL!” like saying “them all” just after he’s spent the last like few hours just relentlessly arguing for rights of black Americans it just like made me stop and pause it and I was like that’s who he is
That white dude in the middle telling black people they’re opressed straight to their faces is wild.
It really sucks to listen to a person with no concept of nuance
Props to Destiny and Solenne, two examples of self-aware, levelheaded liberals. Much respect to them!
"They laid me off".
"Oh man, you gonna be alright"!
"Yeah I'll be alright. I'm gonna get on the welfare for a while. So when people ask me if I'm doing okay. I can say, well fair". 😁
Old school SNL is definitely better.
I am sure he said ‘uncle Tom’ when he got censored we won’t be able to even have a conversation using real words at some point
What about the people that got syphilis from the government? They deserve some $$$
I think we can all agree that Alec is the worst.
Man, do we forget about personal responsibilities?
Wait, what opportunities are thrown at my feet as a Black person? Can you clarify on that Amala?
have you applied anywhere where you are vaguely qualified to get hire? Your race will make it much easier to get said job and then once in it will be easier for leadership role.
Nearly every fortune 500 company at their quartlry stock meeting talk about how they are actively pushing DEI with no stated goals to when when is enough
@@carsandsports123 How so? How does DEI cause people to hire unqualified people? Either you are qualified or you are not, right? You are saying I can come in with some but not sufficient work experience and minimal education and get any role I want? I am trying to understand the opportunities thrown at my feet, because I certainly want to take advantage of those.
Alec is so bent on giving able bodied people money, it's a form of discrimination
If you give a man a fish, he will eat for a day, but, if you teach him to fish, he will eat for a lifetime, (to add to this)
if he then teaches his children, they too can eat for a lifetime.
P.S. lady lefty, bc I’m left handed! lol
Why did you skip the blm scam? I find it very interesting
Truth, is also in the Netherlands & government come the dad.
Destiny is the only liberal I respect.
how anyone can respect him after a few years ago he supported ethical CP for pedos.
“Giving people money doesn’t hurt them.” Everyone out there giving bribes has found a new favorite quote 😂
As if people haven’t heard if the lottery curse lmao.
That's factually true. If I were to give You 100 thousand dollars right now. Would it hurt You?
Sure, I guess. The quote doesn’t reflect on the impact on the person giving the money
Ok but that's the bribe that's hurting you not the money they're bribing you with
and loans!
I’m still surprised how reasonable and moderate Destiny was. At least compared to Alec. Alec made Destiny look like a conservative almost haha.
Destiny, is more of a classical liberal.
My grandma was black, grew up in jim crow era America and not once did she ever blame white people for her problems or demand that someone help her financially. She was a tough, hard working single mother of 2. I find it insulting to say that black people need more help because of past atrocities, We're just like everyone else.
Under Jim Crow, black families were a lot stronger and unified. Their were more likely to succeed and pull themselves out of poverty.
i assuming you're white, so your gradma to never be pissed at white ppl for causing so much destruction upon her community... I'ts because either she didn't care for her community or isn't much a vocal person when it comes to these issues.
either way, your ancestors cause havoc into our community and it got to a point where our culture is being poisened by powerful white people putting money into our music, movies and whatever and promoting BS.
What she said at the end is exactly right when you get this savior complex you put yourself on a pedestal above others... so if you're looking at black people as a group of people that need to be saved by you.... you're deciding that they're too ignorant or incompetent to choose for themselves as individuals not a group what's best for them... that's not getting rid of racism that's what fuels racism. And the ignorance and ego on that dude...... it's just wild how people can be blind to their own egotistical and/or narcissistic ways.
i mean she struggled because of rules enforced by white people during jim crow? lynching, unable to buy houses etc.
It's pretty stupid to say your grandma was living under Jim Crow and not blame white people? She literally could not vote lmao. She couldn't buy property where she wanted not because of her inability to afford it, but because of her race. Imagine how much more money she would have had if not for those draconian racist laws?
Alec is definitely the definition of weak men making hard times. People like that make the world worse, not better.
Canada New Zealand, Australia, and England are talking about "reparations" too.
i dnt knw if he is weak, but definitely cringe. he got destroyed by the older black lady when he virtue signalled being a "nurse"
No, Alec is not a weak man, he made a mistake and everyone pounced on him making everyone else seem more weak actually because they unlike him did not give a corrective answer. Actually Alec as he said was speaking for himself so a "Smart Alec" and the older lady was really great she just didn't know shit about taxes. Alec is creating informational wealth weather you hate him or not it's there and people learn hugely bc he was not afraid to get killed over his honesty. A weak man would not admit he was cringe, he himself accepted the benefit of the doubt that "maybe I am cringe" that's not weakness tho to admit.
@@d3clips391strongly disagree with your assessment. Constant straw man arguments. Coming at everyone as if he’s got all the right answers. Absolutely childish and completely lacking in any wisdom. Intelligence means nothing the way he uses it.
I might not say he’s a weak man pre se, but I would say with certainty that he is extremely shallow and intellectually devious. Definitely the worst of the bunch. Horrible mindset and honestly just makes the left look bad. He is the meme of this panel without question.
@@Christopher-iv6sn well you are the obnoxious kind yourself my friend. Very negative and your point does no one better
As a white liberal that Alec was really pissing me off
lol dude same. Destiny needed to speak up more.
@@drockopotamus1 He probably did, but like someone who had been on there before had said, they're usually there for HOURS discussing this stuff, but they only pick the most controversial takes for views.
Alec sounds like pol pot ngl. I’m telling you Americans. One wrong step, then you see crazy sh*t to come.
I’m very much centred and his BS made me feel like moving towards conservative.
@@sykotika13thirteen
Imo you should
Because the democrats listen to woke people like Alec more than they do a traditional Liberal
I was a traditional Liberal but conservatism is much closer to me than the woke Democrats are
I think by skipping the trump argument you missed Alec say to the face of a black conservative "I believe those who disagree with me are all racist. If you disagree with me you are racist". He was a total child.
He was joking though. They actually said that later.
@@mallorycarpinski1160lol so? What's the punchline?
@@mallorycarpinski1160he could have been, or he could have been trying save face after being confronted
edit: soelling
That was a joke though, so there’s no point
@@EKKO5No it wasn’t a joke
There's always that one person that tests your resolve to listen to the whole debate...I'm struggling lol. I wish Destiny would speak more than Alec.
I wish he wouldn't speak at all
@@timweber1695 Destiny is by far the most level headed person there
@@teratoma.Huh
@@timweber1695 Don't be like that. Destiny is a decent dude. Go watch some of his Rittenhouse talks. He is definitely liberal, but he is not a complete moron like TYT, Sam Seder, Hasan, etc.
@@Mubiki Oh I thought tim was refering to Alec
If Alec is the “future “ population, I’m deeply scared, as a country we are screwed if people have the same mindset he has. He has a delusional saver complex
He is the first version of the cut copy paste human that’s in the movie Wal-E
I like to call it the “Hasan Piker Syndrome”
Believe it or not, in my area of St. Louis, most people are an Alec or Joseph. Please send help
This guy would probably lock everyone up in a padded cell to make sure they don't get hurt.
@@NokotronI’m from STL and you’re correct. I know tons of entitled white dudes from 20-35 just like Alec.
Mr. Alec "I used to be cringe" Was simping for cookies in Hasans chat and claimed Aliya only looked black cuz of her hair. This is what we're dealing with. And yeah, Destiny almost fell out of his chair cringing when he heard it later.
Summary: Xaviaer is based, obviously. The other 2 black women are based, and chandler is just a smart teenager. Destiny is the most reasonable of the libtards, Alec would not let anyone talk who he disagreed with, the white girl was lowkey based, and the dude with messed up hair and the weird t shirt is just weird.
Cant stand Destiny either. He speaks way too much. Taking up for lost time all these years he played sc2
@@omgwerockhard he seems the most intelligent of all of them though. Alec just can't get over his emotions, especially his rant about working at a nursing home at the end. Good on him for helping old people who were dying of Covid, but he made it all about himself because of how emotional he got
@@omgwerockhard it’s funny how he’s hated by both people of the right and the left, people on the right like conservatives hate on him calling him a blue hair democrat loser who plays games all day and in contrast, on the left (radical left) I’ve seen them call destiny a racist, transphobe, Nazi who is secretly conservative 😂 so it’s funny to see both sides
@@nellyc3669 It's hard to be a centrist
Chandler is obviously just repeating what he heared. He's talking in talking points
Affirmative Action reminds me of when adults would let me win when playing games. That is why people will get mad when you didn't allow them to win. I think winning should be because of my skills.
The liberal guy in the hat is the definition of woke.
Thing is he's not a liberal, he's a leftist/socialist and he wouldn't consider himself liberal either.
Definition of someone with a saviour complex
If he put this much effort and passion into his own life as he does forcing his "help" on others
He would be a billionaire by now and be able to actually help some people
I can't stand him though
I hated that the guy wouldn’t shut up and let the other guy talk
He constantly talked over everyone, and with every question he stated as if it proves his viewpoint they had a reasonable logical response that he just dismissed because it goes against his stance. He did not debate well at all, yet likely believed he came out on top. He also is unopen to listening to new ideas, but is stuck to the narrative of his ideology. A poster child for virtue signaling.
He’s not really a liberal just a leftist. He said he supports Desantis.
I hope Alec isn't the average liberal, cuz in my opinion he makes them look bad.
I feel the conservatives really did well, so did the liberals especially destiny, except Alec ofcourse.
Bro had to include Elon Musk for literally no reason
Liberals should disown him because he makes them all look bad
No way you think Chandler did good dude. Be honest. Oh nvm, they cut out the parts where he said some dum sh, probably on purpose.
@@deeky1239Where you there? How do you know what was said if it was cut?
I agree he came off as a teen who knows more than everyone but only knows the surface level stuff.
Xavier was MVP of the conversation I feel.
Xavier is so well articulated. I got chills listening to him speak and I love watching his reels on IG!
What’s his IG handle??
whats his @ please
@@darksat6just type his name- Xavaier DuRusseau
I almost feel like Alec was deliberately being a troll for the reactions because he was such a stereotype. 😂
alec and stopoil protestors are a psyop
I feel the same 😂
Just crazy to me that we have black Americans trying to explain things to white Americans, and the white Americans are refusing to listen as if they know more about the issue.. it's crazy..
Talk abt being racist. When the white liberal is telling the black conservatives they are incorrect and don't have a clue.
But if you think about it, you could say the same about black progressives explaining things to white conservatives. 😉
@@amandav5824 yeah! Black progressive wouldn’t even try to listen. Their reason is just racist. This is racist That is racist. Even choosing white chocolate is racist
@@amandav5824 sarcasm aside! You’re wrong. People do listen. But if their reason is just This racist That racist all the time, then I’m out! Bye
Perhaps one listens but don’t agree
I hate how no one likes to listens because they think they already knows the answer. We ought to listen twice as much as we we speak.
Absolutely based
Welfare is based on income level. Two incomes are typically more than one. Removing the low income requirement of welfare is the worst idea I’ve ever heard. And that’s the only way to not incentivize a man leaving the home while still providing assistance.
I want Jubilee to do, "White Conservatives vs. Black Liberals" but that might get too crazy way too fast.
People in the comments were asking for Gay Conservatives vs Straight Liberals😅
That one would escalate quickly 😂
@@mallorycarpinski1160 That's the biggest oxymoron, ever!! 🤣😂🤣😂
@briantucker7173 Yes. Yes it would. 😅🤣
@@microphonejacketNot really. I think there are a lot of gay people that are conservative. Ofc not as much as "liberals" but people need to understand that you don't need to agree with conservatives on every single thing to be conservative. Personally, I only support conservative economy, because economy is a priority for me.
I worked two jobs in college and grad school. I'm black and my parents were actually relatively well off. I did it so I could get used to being off my parents' teet. Lol I guess I was Republican all along!!!
Oh? What was your major?
damn im a loser I barely manage one job and I do no schooling...
Don't fall into their nonsense. I was a black well off man, that has nothing to do with the bastardization of history conservatives pull, the attempt at burying black American history and contributions to society, and the impacts of red lining on black Americans collectively. It's actually an insult to the ancestors to claim conservative due to all of the foolishness and hateful rhetoric they have pushed over the centuries.
Same, but I’m liberal
Alec is an incel. Alec has his pronouns in his bio. Don’t be like Alec.
Thank you for the reaction Amala!
ITS THE GUY!!
@ChandlerCrump
U bodied Alec and the pedo glasses guy bro 👌🏿
You were so wrong in so many things you said but since you talked fast.....
@@claff4573 how is he wrong tho?
@@claff4573
Alec didn't talk fast bruh!
😆
I have considered myself pretty liberal for years now but lately I’ve been getting so sick of the constant push to have to agree with all extreme leftist ideas, lest you be labelled a bigot. I wish I could show this video to all black leftists, because for a long time I’ve really struggled how to express to those people that ‘No I swear I’m not racist, but I don’t think what you’re expecting is fair, and there are plenty of other black people who are also of an opposite opinion to you; so how do you get to say “this is the correct opinion, otherwise you’re racist” and believe that only you hold the correct opinion, OVER other black people?
Alec is the type of person who can’t look like the bad guy in any situation, always has to add ways of why he is amazing. It’s almost narcissistic. I know a few people who will say all they’ve done but in reality they did it to make themselves look good.
When that Alec guy told homeboy to “just breathe” I wanted to jump through my screen and fight him 😂😂 The gaslighting is real!! Oooh he has me sweating.
What we as a community are needing is the moral compass that a working family traditionally brought before the government replaced the father in a large number of homes.
There’s more to the destruction of the nuclear family than the existence of welfare. I’m a single mom and I don’t qualify for government assistance. I am struggling financially and still make too much money. I could get a job that pays me less but that would mean a shitty apartment in a shitty neighborhood and that’s not what’s best for my daughter. For me, there’s no financial incentive to not have her father around. Actually, staying with her dad would have benefited me. I don’t want to say people are being lazy and choosing the welfare life but… idk. Maybe it’s something else.
I briefly dated a woman who was on assistance. Every week, she would arrange that her hours at her job were reduced so as not to lose her benefits. I'm not saying that the hours would have made up for the assistance check, but the whole setup instilled in her the "this is my ceiling" mentality. I also had a supervisor at a 40-hour a week job that was definitely not stingy about offering overtime every weekend. This guy, a supervisor! had to make sure that he never got more than 35 hours or HIS benefits would have been cut. This was not a lazy man, either.
@@WakenerOne so maybe it’s not laziness. Maybe welfare breeds this mentality. It’s sad. There’s no chance for success if you’re purposely sabotaging yourself so you can get government assistance.
This is so funny! I saw this video on my feed the other day. Then I thought, “ This is a video that Amala would react too” and here you are 😂😂
Giving someone everything, without helping them to become better people and self sufficient is a disservice to the people we are proclaiming to help.
Say it again for the people in the back!!
Around 35:32, the woman talking about how corporations seek diversity and the dude arguing against it saying that’s not how that works? How about I used to work at Publix and my title was cashier but I worked in customer service. I was LITERALLY told they have a matrix grid that tracks demographics and I couldn’t get promoted to full time customer service staff yet because they were only looking for men of color or women, not white men. I was literally told that by my manager. So yes, she is correct.
I ended up stepping down and and two girls I TRAINED got the promotion.
I work for Progressive and every quarter the celebrate the amount of white men in leadership going down and these quarterly updates are always pushing to lower the line.
Another real story of negative DEI in corporate America
Give it up to Renee. She's wise ❤I love her mama bear energy, I felt like every word I was thinking she said it with class ❤
The audacity of that Alec guy.
When it comes to white people paying black people for past grievances, I just think something along the lines of “why should I pay you for something someone I never met did to someone you never met”
Alec starts out interrupting and talking over Chandler, then goes to being condescending, to attempting to speak for him and tell him what he supposedly thinks. It strikes me as him thinking this person is an inferior who has no right or no ability to speak his mind in Alec's presence.
Corporate dei is huge with my company. It's all about being able to say they check the boxes
Most of these arguements could be bettwr explained if we looked at people as classes instead of race. While there is a big overlap of poor and black, a lot of the same issues that "only affect black people" also have an effect on poor white, asian, latino, etc.
My favorite thing to do when watching Amalas livestreams while high, is to play the guitar so when she nods her head to the video, it looks like she's headbanging to my songs lol
Wait, so the government/taxpayers should pay for the therapy to combat the trauma suffered by the descendants of slaves?
Destiny hit some good points for the liberal side. The other guys were a bit overboard. The conservatives made alot of sense overall. Amala also made good points. Good debate.
I never comment to disagree but I disagree with ámalas comment on working college students. My husband worked three jobs and would fall asleep at the wheel trying to get to school . He failed out multiple times. Mind you he was a 3.8 high school student . So yes it is very hard for college students who have to work. Most of us dropped out🙂
Couldn’t he get financial aid and/or go to community college or trade school?
@@ca8944 so here’s the thing , when you grow up not knowing anything but “ go to college “ you tend to just do what your parent tells you . His parent did just that and at 18 he followed the advice from them and every other adult . At the end of the day my husband graduated but the comment that we’re addressing is amala stating those people would excel even if they have to work multiple jobs .
@@ca8944 also I’m not sure if you’ve gone to college but if you are working and trying to keep up with a workload and your grade slips you get out on academic probation . Which depending on the school revokes your financial aid . We ended up paying out of pocket because if he got less then a C he would be in danger of losing financial aid again so after the first time we just paid for it
@@soulgamesss my sister had two kids while going to a University. She didn’t have a job but she got financial and( our father was murdered when she was in high school so we were low income since my mom only worked part time), and scholarships and loans.
I hate that parents and high school counselors only push college and rarely talk about community colleges and trade schools.
My daughter just finished trade school for welding. Cost $5000 for a year and will be making more than minimum wage and will increase with experience
@@soulgamesss yeah, I went to community college for two years after I got pregnant the 2nd semester of a University. I got financial aid and that other loan that you don’t pay back.
I also worked part time.
I never finished though and regret it but I might go to the same trade school to finish my accounting degree.
I hate that colleges require a bunch of mostly useless classes to graduate with a degree.
I don’t need a psychology or political science class to do accounting ffs.
I think it’s best for students to work summers full time to pay for community college for the year while having a part time job that pays good like being a server.
That seems like the practical thing to do instead of having two jobs during the school year or getting school loans that put them in debt for decades.
My new kitten is so much more cuddly than my other cat, and it's been such a nice addition to our family to get to have cuddles with her every day. She and the older cat are getting along fairly well, but I think our older cat sometimes gets overwhelmed and stressed about the kitten being all up in her business all the time. She swipes at her sometimes, which I think is good, because it's teaching the little one where her boundaries are.
Hopefully once the kitten gets a little older, she'll chill out a bit and not be quite as playful, and maybe the older cat will be less stressed. Kitten's getting spayed next week, so maybe that will help. I'm curious to see how our older cat reacts to the little one coming home all loopy from the surgery. Maybe she'll take her under her wing with her mama instincts and take care of her.
All in all, taking in this stray kitten has been a really positive decision for our little family. I'm glad the cats have been able to get along well enough for us to be able to keep the kitten. Their names are Gallifrey and Melody, both named after Doctor Who characters, which is my and my husband's favorite show.
So... what I'm saying, of course, is that clearly there is no meritocracy in this country.
Just looked up the income information.
White per capita income: $36,962
Black per capita income: $23,303
Asian per capita income: $40,878
Average American per Capita income: $37,638
That is definitely not 50 times more. If he meant 50% more, then he is correct. But the population is also White: 245,860,228 and Black: 46,261,485. So there are 5 times more white people.
The Savior complex turns into the "devouring mother complex" where you destroy the very thing you consider yourself the savior of
I rolled my eyes so hard at the end when Alec started talking about taxes that I physically hurt myself. XD
Now I look like : x.x
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that in the US the schools in richer neighbourhoods get much more money from the govt than those in poorer ones, adn that these poorer areas tend to (but not always) have higher ratio of black Americans. I would say that instead of reparations as such, perhaps the balance of the system could be equalised a bit more. Take some money from the highest funded and make sure it goes into worthwile educational projects and school facilities at the bottom. I think the education system would be a good starting point to give lower income families a better 'leg-up' to do what they want in their careers, and in time, could pull the entire community up. Balancing other aspects of the system would also be required but, like I said, I'm not an expert on the intricacies of the effects of your federal system in local communities.
The issue with that is some schools can hide how bad the students are doing in order to receive more money. I think it was a school in Baltimore that hid that many students couldn’t do math. Maybe instead of throwing money we try to see why some schools are failing that don’t necessarily have to do with funding.
Alec lacks the humility needed to be in any important position of power. He would inadvertently destroy those he seeks to save. LOVE Renee btw, you can hear the desperation in her voice as she sees The Dream that had been coming closer now slip away.
"Giving people money doesnt hurt them"
How many lottery winners blow their millions, lose it all, and develop severe alcohol and drug addictions?
1:07:17 I had to pause the video and do a double take because HOLY FUCK HOW IS THIS GUY REAL LMAOOO