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Well I have to disagree with you on this one. Don’t take it as a hater either because I wanted to see you and your crew win every stage this year. But here’s the deal… at the end of the day it’s first come first serve. Just because you find a spot doesn’t mean the other 150 anglers didn’t find it as well. Glad you talked to Becker, he’s an awesome guy it seems from his videos. Don’t forget it’s a public lake you guys are just visiting, and that is why it must be first come first serve. Pro are weekend angler. Just my opinion
Really appreciate the comment and prospective. 👊🏼
If it was me pulling in an area where another angler is fishing, I’d idle up to him and say hey, I found these same fish, been in here two days, whatever, and ask how we can work it out where we can both fish our stuff and not get in each others’ way. Seems like the tension and negative stuff always happens when the second guy just heads in with the trolling motor down and does his thing. I always try and get the lay of the land and talk to the other boat if I pull in to an area. Just my perspective. Especially when you’re fishing against the same guys all the time. You have to learn to work together to an extent.
Not at all judging Jacob. Just seems better to talk it out on the front end. Similar situation with Adrian and Neal at RedCrest. The long distance boat to boat conversations never seem to go well.
Bud you obviously didn’t hear what he just said, Becker caught 0 fish on this spot so why even bother asking for permission! Also Becker was trying to figure out what wheeler was catching them on! 😂
But with live scoring these anglers know if/how/where they are catching them. JW saw Becker fish that spot and not catch anything. Then Becker saw JW on that spot catching numbers. JW was protecting his spot that Becker saw him on.
The more interesting topic is how you found a small ditch in a shallow milfoil bed with active target. Now there’s something for adults to learn. The other stuff is professional gambler stuff.
Old school side scan on high tide
Nah man you were absolutely wrong for that
Hey brother I have been watching you every since that super tournament with FLW and Bass masters on Chickamauga when you beat the best at the time was KVD with that hair jig so I know what type of fisherman you are and you know very honest and highly respected don’t worry about those haters they are miserable people and they got to bitch about something nothing you did was wrong. Also you need to talk to DC he was hating on the buzz frog on the top water rate the bait. He said he went old school but I saw him throwing a buzz frog Friday 😂😂 love yall of yalls shows. Keep up the good work
I’ll have to talk to my boy thank you for the comment!
If a local does that to you, you're not happy.
Im glad you put your point of view out there. Glad you talked to Matt and there is nothing bad between the two of you.
I don't think that many understand how far you guys travel, how much time you spend under the sun, and how stressful winning must be when your sans family. What some do not understand is how you still came to the event post trailering, and took a fifth of your travel time home to speak with fans. Most other professional anglers bolted after they lost. You stuck around, made the sport better, and fans happier. Congratulations angler of the sport 2024, and beyond!
Comment of the year right here. All 4 guys in that house are making this sport fun again. The whining and crying we get is from the people raised on participation trophies and nobody loses. It’s called a competition not Sunday Funday around the camp fire.
Just facts
@@stephensellers4986 💯
Agreed 100%! Facts my man!🫡
You are a great fisherman. I enjoy you’re content. However, I would have rather seen a video that said, “I was wrong” instead of “here’s my perspective.” It’s never cool to cut someone off on the water no matter what the perspective is. Still hope everything goes well with ya. Also, props to you for this not being something you’re “known” for. One incident doesn’t define your reputation in fishing.
People are too sensitive. You’re all professional adults, you’ll figure it out.
It’s unreal how sensitive these people are. I’m blown away. I can promise this much, you’ll never see a smart person act like that.
It is what it is, and I doubt becker is up in his feelings about it more than all the "fans" that are upset. I'd bet 80% of the people getting up in their feelings about this have rolled up and snaked onto a spot in front of another person every weekend. The etiquette in the sport is LONG gone, I see it from the bank every week, hell the other night an old guy was fishing a local derb friday evening and he trolled right over my line and over the spot I was fishing while I was dragging a jig and shakey head, didn't say a word or acknowledge me standing there. I'm not gonna moan and cry, I just kept casting at his boat, not going to lie it felt REALLY good to catch the fish he probably needed right in his face while they wouldn't touch whatever he was mid strolling
Have a great 4th of July buddy.
Not a good look for sure. Maybe should have been there most of the day to protect the spot.
I feel you shouldn't have cut him. It was really uncalled for, if I'm being really honest.
I see your point and I agree with you on no cutting. But !! Here's my thoughts.
They both knew fish were in that one small depression right?? Matt couldn't figure out the bait or technique JW was using. They both knew there wasn't any fish down the grass line . They were in two specific spots. So Matt is running the grass line where he knows they aren't .. why?? Because he left the door open for JW to come in so he could see what he was using to get those big ones to bite. So I think he played JW.. like I said it wasn't about the fish. They both knew exactly where they were and weren't.. It was about how to get the big bite..
@techtiger38 the fact that you have to clarify when you are being honest……
You were totally in the wrong there. You should have apologized and moved on.
Whenever someone is at the top of the game there's going to be fans and unfortunately there's going to be just as many haters. Even though an explanation was not needed, cool of you to get on this platforms and explain the situation. Ignore all the haters and the drama, you're a great dude
What would you do if Becker rolled up in front of you bud ? Not cool man. No matter how many fish either of you had.
If rolls were reversed I would have zero problem with it
@@WheelerFishingI think that’s what people don’t understand about the MLF game and how it goes down.
Jacob no doubt you are a great fisherman, arguably the best of the day. We can debate this issue back n forth till the cows come home. Optically what you did looks bad, plain and simple! 100% it's a competition, however that spot, is NOT your spot if you're NOT on it, those fish are NOT your fish until you catch them and put them in the boat! Tournament Fishing be it justified or not is getting a lot of bad press. I would hope you with the platform and voice you command in this Industry would want to step forward and go out of their way to try and do the right thing for your brand, the sheild you wear, that its most definitely under the microscope of the Internet fishing world and the Fishing Industry as a whole. If you truly feel how all this went down, the look you received from it and you're copacetic with it, more power to you, but you've lost me as a follower.
So he didn’t lose anything?
Gosh what will he ever do
JW, I love what you do for the sport of bass fishing! Take all that social media diss as a compliment, because haters always hate on those at the top!
But Becker was right if some one did that to you, you would have come unglued.
Absolutely not true! If rolls were reversed I would have left and not had a second thought about it.
Go back and watch live of every tournament this year. You are the biggest crybaby of any angler ever period.
100%
Unglued
@@WheelerFishing try bullshitting someone else. First and foremost you stated several times that you was “ Protecting your Spot “ I don’t care how much money you have how many tournaments you have one or who you are it doesn’t make it your spot. Becker was already on the trolling motor headed that way when you pulled in that’s cutting him off. You think you are entitled because of who you are. It didn’t do you any good you didn’t make the cut karma sucks. Angler of the sport ? You haven’t even won a bassmaster classic none. Win all the mlf events you want cut people off it doesn’t matter in my opinion you aren’t considered top 10 off all time. KVD Clunn are the top tier of the sport and always will be. Those 5 fish limit suck don’t they you have to run from them unless it’s in your backyard on the Tennessee river.
@@WheelerFishingyou would have left and been the grown man but you know you would low key be like “did he just do that?”
I don't know how much things have changed since I quit tourmament fishing, but the rule was when I was fishing was you could not cut into within 50yds of someone anchored while fishing. If it was 100 yds away, no issue, even fishing the same bank. I've fished events that the majority of fisherman were within a 1/4 mile of each because it was the most consistent place to catch bass. Guys relax and let the men fish!!
Low class move without a doubt… no matter how you spin it!!!
Pro fishing is more than just catching fish, if you have the opportunity to defend a spot that you know is a honey hole then that's what you should do. Letting people pressure your best spot that may be the difference between winning or even AOY would be foolish. Every fish, every ounce, every point matters at the end of the season.
I think the sport would be more interesting if more people did this or acted like KVD, Ike, etc did back in the day when people came poaching their spots.
Ike was and is the biggest spot poacher out there. Ask KVD.
I understand your point of view. But,, you already had a huge lead & didn't have to cut him off. I also understand you were trying to protect your "spot". But sometimes just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.
So Becker last year caught the same bass twice. So does your comment apply to Becker. Just because you can should you?It cost Jacob angler of the year and Becker won angler of the year because of that fish. It also cost others money because it knock others down a place in the standing. Jacob could have gotten mad about that but chose not to. People commented about Becker to Jacob last year and he didn’t say one thing bad about Becker.
@@keithufields3540 How do you know it was the same fish ? Did you mark it or do a DNA test ?
I was upset at first when I saw the confrontation. As long as you and Matt have spoken and worked it out , that's great. I appreciate you taking the high road to make a video and explain things.
From my point of view after watching the video it looks like you cut him off brother. But hey we need a little drama in every sports. If we need people to tune in and watch fishing then we need drama and rivalry. It’s sad to say but that reality.
Really appreciate the comment and your point of view!
@@WheelerFishing sure thing bud good luck for the rest of the season stay focus and keep on trucking.
Missing the cut that close is definitely hard. Keep up the good work my man
Even if you did mess up the fact you got on here and put yourself out there to get picked apart shows volumes. Mistakes happen if it was one or not. Thanks for all the amazing videos you post I’ve learned so much from you goodluck the rest of the year!
Part of the game. Anyone who wants to make more of it is looking for a story. You’ve been an honest and upfront guy who is successful - haters will want to find things to bring you down. Keep it up bud.
How do you think you'll do at these small mouth fisheries
@@stephenallen1237 hopefully good! 😂
I do love those smallmouth
You both fished the area, he beat you to it and you cut him off
@@joeys7519 obviously matt seen where jw was fishing and proceeded to go fish it lol
You cut him off plain & simple. I'm sure you had other spots to fish since someone was on this spot, or soon to be. If you wanted to protect it then get behind Matt and when he's past "your" spot you can camp out on it as long as you wish. Anyway, good luck, you're a great angler.
That’s an interesting perspective. Thanks for commenting
I read the rules today. Shockingly there is nothing about distance in the MLF rules. Matt could have ties up to wheelers boat and fished the same spot as long as they dont get their lines tangled. However... no angler can be verbally confrontational with another angler for any reason.
I get the competitive nature but what’s competitive about being 30 lbs ahead ….
He answered that in the video did u not watch the video
I read the MLF rules today and there is no rule about cutting someone off or how close they can be to another boat. " As long as they don't impede or snag the other Fishermans line. In other words, Matt could have tied up to your boat and fished right beside you. What the rules constantly talk about is being " Professional " and Non-Confrontational or verbally confrontational. I guess it would be considered defense if another angler were to find you fishing some place and parked their boat in front of your boat and blocked you, since there is no rule in MLF as to distance as long as it's wrapped in the words " blocking " and they have no verbal communications with you, that way it could never be considered as confrontational. If you blow up on them for blocking you, then that is a rule violation. If we thought FSA changed the sport, pandori's box has just been opened on the new game of defensive blocking with no rules on the distance. Let the new games begin
Protect your spot man. Thanks for the insight. I assumed that was the case after watching the video. Keep up the solid season. Love crushcity
We need Matt and the competition to make this dream come true And no matter what you did right. And the ppl.unsubing probably never even bought a Duckett rod or and free loaders
Keep up the great work, Jacob. Thanks for the recap of the firsthand account from your perspective. Appreciate that. 👊🏼
I've seen both sides now, and I appreciate the honesty, but to do it again, go to the other competitor first and ask if it's ok to slide in front of them that close. Sometimes we assume other competitors are seeing us when catching in prefishing, but much of that is usually limited unless they're very close in proximity. I give folks about a 1/4 mile, less than that I communicate with them first. Your the best in the game right now, keep it up!👊
Glad you addressed this issue. Hopefully you guys will work it out.
You definitely would have been mad if someone did that to you. But I'm just happy to see a video of you doing something other than looking down at a screen all day.
This is an underrated comment. 😂
Just like I told Matt, it's a competition.
Wheeler Up 40 lbs get the truck out of the way !! Butt hurt .... go around him and stare at him catching and keep fishing SMH. Dude gets no fish in a spot and wheeler pounds next to it . 😂
You didn't owe anyone an explanation. Wannabes create drama no matter what, especially when it involves someone with your level of success. Keep doing your thing. Have a happy 4th with the family!
I don't understand why the rules won't allow two anglers having a dispute to peacefully work it out by themselves.
To be fishing at the top level, there's a level of respect and professionalism that must be followed. We don't want GOVT in our lives telling us how to live and there shouldn't have to be a ton of oversight in this sport either.
I realize this is very competitive but, when two anglers need to get on the phone and talk about a certain area where a problem occurred between them. Well let them work it out and keep the peace. It's good to have a higher authority to call if needed.. But all in all it's between them.
Well, in my opinion: A good competitor also needs the skill to know how to cut off other competitors. We do so in carpfishing tournaments. Cut your neighbour off, casting further than he can. Requires skill and knowledge. No problem with that. Part of the game!
Too many Karens chiming in here that have no idea what it's like to grind during practice, tourneys, etc. For starters Jacob broke no rules. Secondly, Matt was in the right area but didn't find the juice. If I was Matt, I'd be upset with myself for not figuring it out especially since he hadn't caught a scorable off that particular spot. Let's face it, these guys are good and this stuff is going to happen. Lastly, Jacob you are a true Ambassador to the sport and represent it well. Some haters keep bringing up money/fame, etc. which makes it clear to me why they bring it up.
I have been laughing since Thursday at all the people who are going to boycott Jacob over this. Oh yeah, open up that rod locker and let me see a Duckett, open up your closet and let me see the Magellan shirts you bought from Academy, open up that day box and show me the Bait-Pop. Come on guys you can't stop supporting him if you never started in the first place.
I understand your take on it, but I can see where it looks bad. If someone sees me catching fish at a spot that they probably didn’t know about. Then the next day they cruise up to the spot, I probably would have a conversation with them about it.
Thanks JW.. Great job
I appreciate you taking the time to explain your side of the story.
I don't know the tourney etiquette but I have seen people ask. But personally I give zero effs about anyone else, I also don't have sponsors to appease!
Nice work Jacob. Totally support you. Nice work. Can’t just let people beat you or ruin your spots you found and caught them on.
Your a talented fisherman that has worked your ass off and had put in the time to figure out the little sneaky spots that’s why you have been so successful in tournaments I would have did the same thing its keep up the hard work
Jacob I have been a supporter for years of you. You were 100 percent in your right . HE DIDNT CATCH A FISH THERE AND LEFT IT THE DAY BEFORE , then saw you catching there while you fished in a spot close to it . He then knew he missed a bag and tried to run it back the next day. KNOWING YOU CAUGHT FISH THERE YESTERDAY HE SHOULD RESPECT IT AND SPEAK UP IN YOUR DEFENSE.. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU THE MAN BUDDY AND ARE HONORABLE FOR CALLING HIM TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION…! ENJOY TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY, RELAX HAVE FUN , AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO BROTHER . We appreciate it .
Glad I watched this video JW, not gonna lie almost jumped on the drama train but having a explanation an what u were doing an how u were thinking.....smart kid total understand, smart move . Let the haters hate they always will bud
Those little spots you find are what make you #1!! I just wish I knew how to find those. I really like how both you and Becker fish. You are both hammers. I hope you got it worked out and it sounds like you guys handled it like you are supposed to.
Thanks for telling the story! People are blowing it up! Some people need to here your both sides of story before running mouth.
Matt won AOY catching the same fish multiple times. Whatever happens to him, Snaggy Sprague, Shuffield, etc., I’m good with. You could sabotage their boats and I’d just consider it karma. They don’t deserve “sportsmanship”
What tournament was that he was catching the same fish?
Was still wrongly of you and if it had been the other way around you would have been pissed off
Heavy is the head who wears the crown. When your at the top, many are looking for a reason to hate
There's a difference between hate and holding people accountable in our sport.
I’m with Wheeler on this one!
At least you worked it out with Matt. I’m not a tournament angler, but home lake is Lake Champlain and I’m fortunate enough to live here and know some spots that took years to find and I’m a weekend angler. Every time a tournament is here you guys find stuff quicker than flies land on sh@t lol and I always give leeway given it’s a tournament. I watched it and you seemed plenty far and seemed to protect your spot. I’ve seen others do it and it’s a different story with a tournament on the line. Other opinions of losing respect I can respect as it’s an opinion….in my eyes you and Matt discussed it….it’s done. But social media…..meh…no worries. Tight lines
Good Review, you are an honest guy. You did it right.
I like watching you fish man. You are one of the best, but in that case you cut him off. He was fishing up that bank and you cut him off 100 0/0!!!
I think these guys need to step up the drama and pull some nascar pit fighting stuff to increase the viewership. Nothing better than a little fighting between competitors IMO
I agree with you. When I first started fishing these little local tournaments here in oakridge tn I was very careful not to cut anyone off until I realized I was pretty much the only person not doing it. I got cut off almost every tournament so now I don't care I fish what I want when I want
Also...you cut him, he says something and you give him the attitude? Im a big fan but wow that kind of surprised me
I don’t think you were out of line. I remember fishing against you at Geist way back in the day your a solid dude people are going to hate and find something to gripe about all the time. This situation has happened for years just now there are cameras everywhere.
That’s being competitive very good strategy. Keep up the good work wheeler.
At the end of the day wheeler your in the boat fishing making your own choices, we ain’t bro I enjoy your videos and your a awesome fisherman have a blessed day man
You played it very righteously.
I completely understand why you did what you did. There’s always aspects of actions that can’t be realized without an explanation. I play defense in tournaments too. Anyone who says they don’t are lying. Like you said, Jacob, only way to deal with these situations is to talk to each other and work it out. And everyone’s negative thoughts mean nothing. Competition is fierce no matter what it is in.
Good deal dude, glad you cleared it up with Matt and yall have an clear understanding. Social media definitely gonna have its perspective on it then turn it into something else. Keep grinding
I see it like you do bud. I’m extremely competitive myself. If were shooting marbles I want to win and that was your spot
Ya im with you on playing defense on that cause you was a pretty good way away.. i was like he got right there so fast
There are 2 ways to look at this. One is the old school way-“unwritten rule” of being respectful and not cutting him off. The other is just being that NASCAR driver that will put someone into the wall in order to get around them and win. It’s up to you to decide which type of angler you want to be. But keep in mind you have thousands of fans watching you that may think this is the right way to do things even outside of competition just fun fishing and cut someone off causing altercations on the water. This is the bad thing about tournaments that have multiple days of practice or practice at all is y’all will find the same spots. Get rid of practice, problem mostly solved 🤷🏼♂️
Y’all who aren’t on tour have no idea how this all works. Wheeler could do what he did, and Matt has a right to be mad
Look who is tenth place when this happen.I think that was a shitty move.come on dude you didn't even need to be fishing.up 45lbs.think before you act.
Didn’t like the move but since you explained it I understand, I’m a dirt car fan and sometimes you have to rub the doors to win, if it were football everyone would be saying that was a great defensive play.
I don’t necessarily agree with cutting a guy off however I understand your point. I get that that you’re playing defense. I love that you called Matt to hash it out as that shows loads of character. Man to man talk shows your maturity. Good job Wheeler!
Respect! For telling it how it is. Also, you did absolutely nothing wrong if this was any other sport it’s like calling a blitz or a high-pressure package. It’s called defense and defense wins championships. There’s a reason there’s 100 yard rule in this sport people that don’t fish tournaments don’t understand that you have to adapt and overcome.
Does anybody remember the famous Vandam and Iconellie incident? Kevin ran Ike off a spot and no body hated on Kevin as bad as this. There was another comment about cutting people off in NASCAR that made complete sense. There’s 100k on the line. I’m a firm believer that Jacob would cut DC off the same way in order to win. It’s a cutthroat sport there’s no teams and you gotta look out for Number 1. Just my opinion
Now day's.... Kevin would have been disqualified for being verbally confrontational. My eyes were opened today when I read all the MLF rules.
Some people think 50 yards of room is enough and seem think 100 yards is enough. It’s a judgement call. Becker was close enough to that spot that I wouldn’t have pulled in there.
But this stuff happens all the time and no one is perfect.
I figured Jacob didn’t think Becker was fishing that spot. Or Becker wouldn’t have fished there if he hadn’t seen Jacob catching them there.
I don’t blame Becker for not being happy about it. But I do think it’s over blown .
Here is how it is in competitive bass fishing as far as I m concerned. When the boat touches the water on tournament morning until the weigh in. There are no friends it's every man for his self. If you try to be friends out there you'll got home checkless. Wheeler you didn't do anything wrong you just played the game the same way Matt would have if he were in your position. Good job J Wheels.
Hey man I love all you guys have a great 4th🎉 and keep reeling them in and don't worry about these sheep do what you do no matter what you got to feed your family
Thank you for the comment! Appreciate you all rocking with me. Happy 4th!!
Excellent video and well said about social media and society we live in now. Class Act Mr. Wheeler God Bless
You beat him to that spot. He turned the trolling motor on high to come to you. You were playing defense. Its strategy. No tourney rules were broken so nothing wrong in my mind. I understand both of yalls perspective but at the end of the day, no rules were broken. Mad respect to Wheeler and Becker
Thank you for making this video - class move. Now - forget the negative comments and move on. You protected your spot. Period - have a good night. Pulling for you - for AOY #3!!!!!
Agree with you 100%! With increased pressure on all bodies of water, if you put in your time and find spots you fish them. If Matt actually knew that spot he had the ability to go straight there and fish. He chose to run the grass line 200+ yards away.
I watched the video clip and have seen a bunch of the social media comments and stuff. Personally, I have no problem with what you did. It wasn’t a violation of any rules. You made a good point in this video, this is competitive bass fishing at its highest level and not only that, but it’s how you make your living, so naturally you’re gonna compete to the best of your ability. I’m glad you posted this video so that your side of the story could be heard.
I agree 100% with you!
You good man, you and Matt can hash it out ain’t our business but good explanation. I mostly fish kayak tournaments as I prefer it over my boat, I get cutoff by boats all day my skin is tough now 😂. Skeet for the W ! Good to see an OG take it.
People make mistakes and do things they regret. If you have enough humility to recognize where you can improve, you'll have a better life making yourself better by learning from your own mistakes. That's important
We make judgment calls buddy best we can at time some are good some are bad nobody percect your a great rep for the sport keep on keeping on
The only people making a big deal about this aren't Pro anglers. Most of them obviously didn't hear Matt say he was about to leave on live just a few minutes beforehand. You keep doing you, it's working, you will never keep all of the fanboi's happy.
Glad you put your side out there
Keep up the good work
Waiting for tin rig videos on the rivers & creeks!
Appreciate you addressing the issue. Fact is, Matt might have made the cut if you hadn’t poled down at that spot. He was obviously going right by it. I don’t blame him for being upset. But it is a competition and I understand why you did it. If Matt had known he could have caught fish there at that particular moment he probably should have stopped there first.
It's no different than hunting public land. The first one there gets the spot. I've seen people scout 100s of hours set up a tree stand to show up opening morning to have someone sitting in it and nothing they could do about it because its public. The same rules on the public water should apply.
@@petec1538 In that case they would be in "my" stand and there would be a big problem. Now, they might put their stand up 5 yards away...
I understand your strategy. Don't necessarily agree with it. I think watching the pros is why all these weekend guys think it is on to pull up one or two docks in front of people or on the same point someone is fishing.
You’re good man, the weekend warriors will never agree with it but tournament guys know exactly what was going down.
I didn't know any of this, but what you said about social media. That is what I see and have seen for years. I've had that done to me and saw where people dogging " what i knew was thrown at me and didn't even know why." I fish for the fun and compete for the same reasons. I really can't stand the bandwagoners that jump on the post and didn't even fish that. You don't need to explain it. This world is full of opinionated people, and they are being selfish, submitting their comments without knowing the truth. I see it more. Thanks for sharing, bud.