I remember a country from Europe, the RFID toll has no barrier at all. If the scanner not able to detect your RFID, they will use camera to identify your car and continue charge your e-Wallet.
Europe tak apa la number plet seragam. Ni kat msia nombot plet mcm2 ragam...fancy bagai..cinonet pun ada.. camna nk samakan europe..
Best presentation video with experiences....thanks for the lesson
Well said, nice one bro Thanks for the video..from the Philippines....
Good job bro for the review. Keep it coming. Thumbs up👍👍
17/10/2018 Rabu.
Saya antara 2nd batch pilot pasang di R&R Awan Besar.
Sticker diletakkan di bahagian dalam windscreen. (Suatu kelebihan kereta yang tiada tint film)
Jika kenderaan anda ada tint film, RFID tidak boleh ditampal dari dalam, sebaliknya akan di pasang di luar windscreen (jika tidak mengganggu frekuensi).
Pilihan terakhir ialah di headlamp. Itupun jika tiada tint film.
Kurang 3 jam saya telah mendapat sms yang mengatakan RFID sudah boleh digunakan. Kebetulan ketika iti saya sedang di atas NPE maka saya terus mencuba kali pertama di PJS2. Hasilnya amat berpuas hati.
RFID bukan seperti gateless ERP Singapura. Maka tidak perlu laju-laju ketika memghampiri plaza tol. Lorong tu muat-muat sebuah kereta je,
Lorong RFID di PJS2 agak luas maka saya mencuba pada kelajuan 45 km/j dan scanner berjaya dibaca.
Namun ketika menggunakan Smartag, saya bawa lebih kurang 20 km/j saja, yang penting ialah dapat scan. Laju-laju nak pergi mana?
Apapun, saya berbangga menjadi pilot tester.
Kepada yang ingin melihat bagaimana rupa sticker RFID di kereta saya, sila WA 011-35297936.
Good video and very informative, thanks
Nice review bro..👍👍👍👍 thumbs up!
Here in the Philippines we are also converting to rfid on all tollways. But here the detection point is near the barrier/toll house. You can only do I think 10km/h. Also there are 2 types of sticker used. One on the headlight and one on the windshield.
I like efficient things like this
Kudos to the 'Genius' who approved this and also the other 'Genius' who came up with this idea.. Sometimes imagination does not go hand in hand with practicality 😁
I use this RFID daily....i think the main advantage is I don't need to top-up my card...just set auto reload via my E-wallet. No need to que for top up and no one will try to steal my SmartTAG unit. Almost 1 year already, RFID still working fine... And no one really peeled the sticker...don't think kids really attracted to and go crazy at someone headlights..hahaha
I feel this doesnt make any difference to smart tag as u need to wait for the gate to open ( maybe its just a test phase ) ? They need to make it like australia which is gateless
Its so damn ugly also if stick on the headlamp... why not just stick on the inside of the windscreen?
cos the signal might be interrupted due to car tinted. which it shouldnt happen to RFID technology... the sensitivity seems very lowwwwwwwwww if need to stop like that there is no reason to change to RFID which the sticker is too exposed to public and we still live in Malaysia.
they will remove the gate when it officially launched, car won't stop at all. now still in testing phase.
right..if there is an accident and your car headlights are broken, how will RFID work?
If you go to Melbourne, the cars just passed by smoothly, there are no tolls at all. There are the infra red scanners from the top which scans the tag in the cars immediately without the need to stop at all ..
Give it time man, this is still in a trial run and they can't remove those toll plazas in such a short period.
yup, melbourne is the best with that infra red system. Msia rfid is worse, i think they need to go out and see how other ppl system work so great
Actually when LDP started years back they already had an RF tag system (FastTrack if memory serves). Then they were forced to adopt the archaic Infrared we have today.
yupp agree with u. even in Papua New Guinea they use RFID order food using drive-in lane.
It's a lot faster than smart tag. But still slow. I'll most probably knock the barrier flying away so far.
Why dont use singapore's ERP technology? Eventhough the device cost like a smart tag but the tech is solid and works flawlessly.
would be good if an audible signal is attached to the rfid, it gives an additional senses to us on whether we should brake or continue on
Probably it can since it is a UHF RFID tag even though it is a passive type but considering the placement of the RFID tag, you won't hear the beep sound from the microchip
There 2 type of RFID, one stick at headlamp and the other one at windshield. At this moment, only RFID sticker for headlamp available for pilot test.
Cer buat perbandingan lokasi rfid tag .... windscreen vs headlamp mana yg lebih bagus prestasinya ..... headlamp design berbeza, small space, dll berbanding windscreen .... bigger area ...... hantar le ke nippon antenna, japan/sirim utk test ......
When turn on the lights will the RFID tag make shadow
Yes on the headlights its the furthest front of a car.... but the RFID beam is coned shape. So not much of difference in timing detection. Fixing at the top center of windscreen will be nearer to the toll sensor and less prone to vandalism. Esp cars with plastic headlights cover that fades over time that needs polishing
By looking at this video, PLUS should really revise their gate distance from the scanner. Put it further away and replace it with some early warning system like a row of red lights saying that the reader didn't manage to read the data from your RFID/SmartTag. That will greatly reduce the possibility of a speeding car hitting the boom gate.
If the headlamp is damaged due to an accident, how fast can you get the replacement?
and if your car is stuck in the workshop for 1 or 2 weeks and you need to borrow someone else car...do you stick your new rfid to that car?
On the other hand...what if someone borrows your car...and uses the toll...enters the subang toll... exits the alor setar's toll and the balance gets deducted from your account...oh oh
I find the RFID sensor on NPE toll is the best so far for me. The worse is Kesas.
If this is to be fully implemented, i wonder what will happen if suddenly all of the RFID lanes have issues (it will at some point), currently, if a smart tag lane is clogged up (toll booth issues, driver issues etc) u can always opt for the TnG lane (manually tap your card) but with RFID, what would be the alternative? Do we have to top up both TnG AND RFID then? That is just plain silly
Smart tag can be carried around and move from 1 car to another...while this?????can i move the sticker from 1 car to another???
Sticker should b place inside the windscreen car. What happen if someone sabotage n remove rfid sticker without our knowledge, this create havoc right? Think again !!
Why not you put the sticker on your car right lamp because the sensor on your right side right?
i ve installed one today. first toll passed thru but second toll stucked. aduiii
How about night? You on your light .. the sensor cant read or not?
Why stick at the headlamp? why not at the center top windshield from inside. is it durable? how the sensor detect when there's bunch of car line up (PH jammed) just in case.
What i know only put outside windshield because from inside sensor can't read
in Singapore i didnt see any gate , and this put on headlamp sticker good for punish those triple or double parking people,just tear off their sicker ,haha
If my headlamp turn yellow and i want to polish my headlamp how???
This technology was supposed to be able to detect your car even at 200kmh. What's going on in our Malaysian version?
Why cant they stick it from inside the windshield...
They should go to Dubai and take a look at Salik system. Cars freely drive through gantry at full highway speed of 100km/h plus with no gate etc. They system has been there for many years ..... what the hell is PLUS doing with this ??
Mine one couldn't work at AKLEH... 😒
Alamak whatlah cuaca cerah sensor tak berfungsi, nnti kalau hujan lebat jerebu macam mane pula walawei
he no clean my windscreen terus put on the sticker ... alot dust on my windscreen
Try entering a RFID toll and exit somewhere there is no RFID reader. How many devices do I need to go to East Coast? Is PLuS installing RFIDs on the eascoast highway too?
Currently RFID readers are mostly installed on intercity tolls, so if you are travelling on the North South highway, you are still going to need your physical touch n go card. Remember, this is still a pilot for now so its only available in limited number of tolls.
How to take part bro?
I thought the new PH government going to abolish toll? No? If yes, then this stuff going to DoA?!
Danny Photography PH will not going to abolish tolls anytime soon. It’s not about the contract but they refuse to do it.....maybe as for leverage?!
but not all tolls have this station yet
Old Smartag is practical.
Pehh , pastu masuk toll takda jadah tu cemana ? Nak bermalam kat tepi tu ke canne ?
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Lpsni myv/aruz yg ada tng card slot feature r useless...
pakatan logic: why abolish toll when you can just abolish the barrier
Pakai smartag je la tng pun da senang hack balance 399 all the time 😁
Kalau diterapkan di Indonesia akan sulit.
Semoga bisa dinikmati oleh umum. Tidak seperti akai ETool Card atau ETool Pass yg lelet. Cuma ya perlu diperhatikan beberapa masalah yg mungkin timbul:
Cuma perlu dibuat mekanisme bagaimana tahu sisa saldo supaya tidak lupa isi nabrak palang.
Masalah selanjutnya pemasangan EToll Pass suka random kadang ada kadang tidak. Jika ada pun tidak ada petunjuk apakah alatnya on, off atau rusak. Kalau unit pembaca kartu manual yg pakai berhenti buka kaca dan ditempel selalu on. Kalau gardunya ada alat pembaca EToll Pass mengantung tapi lagi bobo alatnya ya nabrak. Mungkin perlu diberi lampu merah dan hijau tambahan selain untuk alat ETool Manual yg berhenti buka kaca dan tempel, ada lampu merah dan hijau untuk unit ETollPass nya.
Lalu urusan masuk dan keluar Toll khan di beberapa tuas TOL misalnya Cikampek khan wajib pakai Kartu yg sama, jika pinjam kartu atau ganti kartu berbeda bisa otomatis denda 200ribu dianggap melanggar peraturan menggila putar arah di tengah jalan Tol. Jadi cukup repot harus mencopot kartu dari unit EToll untuk ditempel manual. Untuk resiko potongan Rp200ribu ini hanya terjadi di Tol yang melalui lebih dari satu gerbang tol dan pakai EToll sebanyak lebih dari satu kali.
Kalau pakai RF seperti frekuensi di atas maka akan sering kena denda Rp200ribu tsb. Sebab jika lagi tidak mendapatkan gardu RF misal karena salah jalur di jalur manual atau memang RF nya lagi nga berfungsi maka siap siap kena denda rp200ribu karena beda kartu. Pernah aku lewat TOL Cikampek misal pas masuk pakai etool mandiri, pintu tol berikutnya mandiri lagi error jadi pakai flash lalu ya keluar toll bisa resiko kena tuh yg denda Rp200ribu.
Aku pernah setahun lalu pinjamkan kartu ke pengemudi yg habis etollnya lalu kena denda 200ribu pas keluar tol. Karena saldoku nga ada maka diajak ke kantor oleh petugas. Aku menggila aja pura pura mau parkir lalu tancap gas. Ujungnya ya nga etoll tetapi "di kantor"
Jadi banyak kemungkinan problem yg membuat orang pikir 100x sebelum mau diupgrade tekhnologinya. Lebih murah terima macet aja.
Solusi:
Mengisi EToll jumlah uangnya harus kurang dari Rp200ribu di saldonya.
Kalau lewat jalan Tol yang harus melewati lebih dari satu pintu Tol lebih baik punya beberapa jenis kartu emoney sebab bisa saja lagi eror.
Jika muncul tagihan Rp200ribu pura pura aja mau bayar, palang Tol dibukakan manual tancap gas kaburrrr.
Kalau mau dibuat menjadi RF Etollnya harus diperbaiki aturan aturannya tidak boleh ada jebakan sisitem yg bisa charge besar tiba tiba lalu konsumen terima nasib saja.
Why not follow the Singapore system?
Please fix the censor..
Dubai toll system SALIK is better when the speed is considered...
why they didn't paste the rfid sticker to your axia windscreen? seems like your windscreen is not tinted.
This was the first batch, so newer rfids should be able to stick on the windscreen
Well i go thru smart tag at 30kmh every time every day. I thot with rfid we don't have to reduce the speed that much?
Well, the boom gate is the thing that makes you slow down, but the distance detection could really be better tho.
All this due to toll payment right..hrmm
buat tato rfid kat kereta la. so permanent sket.
just abolish toll no more headache
Aint nobody got time to keep replacing the RFID sticker if it gets stolen/damaged. SmartTAG is still great for now until they fix and adjust the errors and bugs in this testing phase
Wat if my car keep being borrowed by others? I still need to pay the toll for them?
Surely theres better alternative instead of this Rfid sticker right? seems so flawed
1. Peeling/sabotage issues
2. Rfid booth unusable resulting in users to opt for the tng booth which means, users will need to have a separate tng card ready for backup, making owning the rfid seems pointless
3. Same speed as smart tag
and alot more
is there a way to print out the transaction history? (for work claims)
If you mean TnG RFID transactions: no, you can't print them out from TnG website since TnG and Tng RFID are two different systems at the moment.
for Malaysia, this is progress
BUT solutions exist in other countries last 20 years.....sigh....
The new myvi came with a very nice built-in system for tng smart tagging.. other cars may not have that kind of convenience, but stickers, really?!! Smart!! Forget about stealing stickers, let's just hope no one comes up with a hack to steal your money from the RFID. hahaha...
Boleh cabut & tampal di kereta lain ke? Takut lak kena curik...
How about kalau kotor dekat sticker tu? Masih berfungsi ke?
Tak boleh. Sebaik sahaja dicabut terus tak berfungsi (mengikut kepada video paultan.org).
Still same also after i use rfid need to stop also haizzzzzz 😠😠😠😠
RFID stick at exterior?! Gone within seconds... Lmao! And go thru toll without realizing it's gone as well! Then need to flash out smartag or touchngo to go thru toll again... What is the point then?
We all knew that barrier pole is an outdated technology as it tends to get stuck and deactivated when the relay get stuck. In US, they didnt use pole, instead they use camera. There is no barrier pole at the toll station. It is time to upgrade the technology.
smarttag, well the thief gotta break in for it while this sticker.. everyone can just tear it easily, everyone! trust me there are a lot of kids who do it for no reasons, I reckon better place the sticker inside on the top of windscreen.
Why RFID not do like our current road tax sticker stick inside the window, cause if stick at outdoor like head lamp or outdoor window if change by people we also don't know during we want the toll just know that not enough money in this RFID. This I think will give trouble to all ppl.
ingat tol dah takda lepas ph memerintah, now introduce rfid pulak.
"The Government wants to remove Smart Tag and replace it with RFID stickers" says the host... Who in the Government said that?
I like the video but i dont like the system cuz its still have delay.. Sigh..
RFID ? Seem like mark of the beast 😆😆😆
When is Pakatan Harapan going to ABOLISH the tolls?
If the government is planning to abolish toll collection why the heck do we need RFID?
pakai cash la senang, gelabah bila takdak duit nak naik tol skrg ni. ambik jalan bawah sbb nak buh lalu tol yg srrgt nak kena topap min 10, duit ada 11 ringgit. hm sedih.
Xdak beza dgn smart tag, silap2 yg ni lg useless
Aku bawak motor takyah lalu toll pun 😂
stiker .....y stiker ....easy to fly away
The sticker can easily fall off...matter of time
Im sorry but its pointless if it has the same issues going through the toll as SmartTag. And if someone steals your sticker and put it on their vehicle, will it work? Seems like an easy target for theft
tol..$$$..tol..$$..debt. tak habis2..
Failure rate 9/10 for me, even after replacement. Pretty useless.
IMO, the best approach is always to stick it at the windshield from inside the car. Otherwise, the sticker can easily peel off by anyone, checkout this video that I found which is similar to the current RFID approach
ua-cam.com/video/zSP_9PQ_Iwc/v-deo.html&t=3m59s
X de beza pon dgn smart tag.. Sama je.. Baik pakai smart tag je, ada gak bunyi bunyi titt titt. Ini semyap jee.. Bosan.. Hahahaha
Still a not soo smart design...gate should open b 4 reach the toll ...only car can move smootly
need to revise again, the system not so good
INI tak boleh pakai punya
kami rakyat marhaen xnak tol... come on la PH.. walk the talk...
Harap ada yg bleh hack...
if someone steal RFID stickers?
But the user needs to go back to fitment center, buy a replacement RFID sticker and get it installed. The vendor makes money out of your misfortune. Dumbest implementation ever.
If u sell ur car? U need to purchase new sticker?
20km .. more than that... it won't open.
aiyaa pakatan harapan said want to abolish toll mehhh ...but replace their janji manis with rifd instead ..what a joke
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