Redesigning Oslo's transit diagram
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In 2017, I made an unofficial transit diagram covering the Oslo region in Norway. Now, five years later, it’s time for a revisit. Let’s take a look at what can be improved and the process of creating a new transit diagram.
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As a colorblind person who often mixes up grey and pink, I appreciate that color change
I appreciate the effort too. I have "mild" red-green color blindness. You also have to take into account real life lightning, as in actually standing in a station looking at a map. If possible, I don't think color should be involved at all. But on the other hand, I'm not sure what could replace it.
I actually asked myself this question: How would a colour-blind person find this and then I saw this comment. Great :D
As a non colorblind person who never mixes up pink and grey, I appreciate that color change
@@Oktobermedia the tokyo metro deals with this perfectly with major staion in each line having a letter asociated with each line. this is most likely due to the fact that with that many lines even for people without colorblindness it becomes hard to name all tha colors. i have red green color blindness and found this really usefull
@@edstructor666 the Los Angeles Metro recently changed their colored lines to lettered lines too!
The most striking thing out of the redesign is how easy on the eyes it is despite its complexity. 100/100
something the nyc subway can learn from for sure
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This looks so good, and the editing is on point too. Living in a city that butchered its transit map to add regional services, I’m very appreciative of the effort you put in to keep the line colors while differentiating modes.
Greetings from a fellow transit enthusiast and Norwegian! Let me start off by expressing how impressed I am by your skills and creativity in transit diagram design. It is truly enthusiasts and clever people like yourself we have to thank for spreading knowledge and interest about transit to the common man, and for pushing transit officials to go above and beyond in their planning and design.
Your recent design is without a doubt an improvement from your last one. Nonetheless, I would like to understand the reasoning behind your choice of combining these specific three modes of transport in your comprehensive diagram. At first glance, the obvious answer to that question would be that these three modes are all running on rails. However, I would argue that that is the only similarity between these modes of transport - at least when it comes to Oslo.
The regional Vy trains (the R trains) run to towns and cities, which are for, all practical purposes, outside the Oslo area - strictly speaking. Their main role is not to carry commuters on a daily basis into and through the city; there are after all not many people commuting to Oslo from Skien and Göteborg (in Sweden!) on a daily basis. The local Vy trains (the L trains) and the outer parts of the Ruter metro lines share, in my view, the role of being the city area's rapid transit system (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_transit) - brining daily commuters from suburbs and nearby towns and villages.
In my opinion, the inner parts of the metro (as well as a small part of the central local train service on L1, L2, L3 and L21) share roles with the trams and city buses in functioning as the frequent and reliable network of transport for the city's inhabitants, consisting of lines and branches of lines with a multitude of stops close together. They serve an entirely different different purpose than the trains and outer parts of the metro, in my view.
In reality the trams in Oslo function merely as buses on rails - which brings me to the buses of the Oslo area. It's not difficult to understand why you have omitted the bus lines from your comprehensive diagram, as the official bus diagram already is a spaghetti mess on its own (ruter.no/globalassets/rutetabeller/buss-oslo/linjekart/buss-oslo-linjekart-08082022.pdf). That is because Oslo's bus service, both the regional one but especially the city bus system, is really extensive in size, as well as frequency, as well as coverage.
Many people tend to regard the metro as the backbone of the Oslo transit system. But when looking at number of yearly journeys, the importance of the buses in Oslo can't be understated. In 2019 (the last year with statistics not affected by the pandemic) the number of total bus journeys reached 180 million - of which 115 million were made by city bus and 65 million were made by regional bus (aarsrapport2021.ruter.no/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2022/02/NOKKELTALL-til-a%CC%8Arsrapport-2021.xlsx). Compare that to the metro's number of journeys of the same year at 119 million, the tram's at 53 million, and the train's at only 42,2 million, a safe conclusion can be drawn: The transit system of Oslo would collapse without the bus.
The bus digression aside, my argument is not that you should combine all these four modes of transit into one - I think that would be an impossible task. My argument is that it would make more sense to design a diagram combining bus, trams and metro lines into one (and maybe even include the ferries and boats). Oslo needs a comprehensive _city_ diagram where all these three modes of transport are combined - buses, trams and central parts of the metro. These three serve different geographical areas of the city, and when travelling from one part of the city to the other - even for shorter distances - one often has to change between the three. A proper city transit diagram combining these quite similar modes would help locals, commuters and tourists alike.
If you are commuting from say Moss or Gjøvik (two separate cities/towns), I'd argue that the need for one single diagram combining local trains (L trains), which run for over 100 kilometres, with tram lines, which run for only up to 20 kilometres, is not present. If I were a long-distance commuter, I'd be much more comfortable with using one diagram for the local trains and the outer parts of the metro to help me get into the city centre (especially regarding Oslo only having one large train station), and then turing to a comprehensive city diagram combining the buses, trams and central metro lines. A commuter's journey to a specific part of the city could then be mentally divided into two parts: The first one would focus on getting from a suburb, village or town into the city, and the second one would focus on figuring out which city bus, tram or metro to take in order to get to the desired part of the city.
Seeing as Oslo city has such a developed bus, tram and inner metro service, with great coverage, loads of stops and high frequency, there is rarely a need to walk more than 200 metres at the most, regardless of where your destination is within the city centre. This is a great feature in a modern city and is one that is deserving diagrams which make the system accessible to all. That is the reason why I think two separate diagrams, where one is regional and one is a comprehensive city based one, is favourable over your current design.
I want to stress once again how impressive I find your skills and creativity in redesigning transit diagrams to be, and also that the diagram in this video already is accessible, functional and all together great. The reason behind my very lengthy comment is merely some ~constructive critique~ (as is the official phrase in proper Norwegian) and maybe to challenge your exceptional skills into creating something even more comprehensive and impressive.
There would clearly be some challenges in creating my suggested city diagram combining the buses, trams and central metro. As well as the extensive city bus service, Ruter also has quite a large-scale regional bus service, serving the local areas around the suburban hubs and towns, which themselves are served by the outer metro and local train lines. Seeing as a number of these regional bus services call at a multitude of stops both inside and outside Oslo proper, this would require some creative design and sacrifice of accuracy, no doubt.
Yet again, this was a great video and a great design! I hope my critique is welcomed and I wish you all the best with your upcoming designs and projects. Maybe we'll see an updated version (or versions in plural form!) of this diagram in the future. ;)
Cheers,
Tord
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Tord!
I totally agree with the idea of having two separate maps. One for travelling to the city, and one for navigating within the city. I have actually been thinking of making a more geographically-oriented map of Oslo, with buses (and ferries?) included. Here, it would be natural to include more details such as boroughs, rivers and maybe even landmarks, making it easier to navigate. This is a huge task though, so I might need to practice a bit before I start untangling the spaghetti monster.
Regarding the regional trains, I included them because they kinda function as local trains between Lysaker and Oslo S. And between Asker-Oslo S-Lillestrøm, they supplement and provide a high-frequency service resulting in trains running every 10 minutes. I don’t think that should go unnoticed.
The only similarity between these modes of transport are, as you mentioned, that they all run on rails. I’m not yet at the skill level where I can add complex bus routes, hence why it was easier for me to ‘redesign’ three existing line diagrams. Hopefully I’ll succeed with an updated version in the future. One for trains/metro and one for the city itself.
PS: Ruter has previously made a diagram including main bus routes, metro, tram and some ferries. But it’s not easy to find online: ontheworldmap.com/norway/city/oslo/central-oslo-transport-map.jpg It’s not even listed on their official website. It only shows key stations and is clearly targeted towards tourists. It doesn’t include train lines, which I dislike, as they are still an important part of the public transportation in Oslo. The following example is not relevant for a tourist, but my point is that trains can sometimes be much faster than the metro and must not be forgotten: Going to Bryn from Oslo S? Taking the L1 train takes just 3 minutes, with a frequency of 15 min. The metro takes 9 min, but with higher frequency. (I’m aware that Brynseng and Bryn are far away from each other in my diagram, ideally they should have a connection indicator).
I love this comment, It exactly describes the Transit diagrams in my home region of zurich!
@@T2norway Say what graphic tool did you use for designing this diagram?
@@Mastakilla91 Well it was mentioned in the video and in the description, Adobe Illustrator
Wow. Loving the super clean editing, clear explanations and of course the map. This is exactly why I subscribed! I really hope the YT algorithm sways in your favor one day.
Absolutely.
Love the subtle shade thrown at the London Tube map’s zones. I’m always impressed by TfL’s ability to make a coherent map at all, especially on the London’s Rail & Tube Services map (the National Rail map), it’s the epitome of a spaghetti map
Just smacked of Anglophobia to me.
The problem is there's too much information shown. Sure its nice to know where the nearest IKEA is but do we really need it on a map?
You really have a talent in diagram illustration! Ruter should pay you a fortune for this design, i’ve always missed a complete map showing all rail transport in oslo!
You are probably the most underrated UA-camr ever
agreed
I've never been to Norway but this video had my full attention. Amazing work.
What software do you use to make maps like this?
Thank you! I used Adobe Illustrator.
@@T2norway Just as a recommendation/idea, figma might be an even better program for this kind of stuff. Figma is mainly built for UI/UX-Design, but I think it brings exactly the right set of tools for this kind of stuff. Not too much like AI and also more advanced features for this specific use-case.
Since there are so many elements that have multiple occurences (lines, stations, numbers) something like the components and central styles like in figma could really help with this. With figma you could just make a "station" component that is connected to all the "station" instances, so if you want to change e.g. the border width you don't need to do this with every single station but can just change the main component and all instances will automatically update. Same goes for text or color styles, if you want to make all line numbers bigger you don't need to change all of them manually but can just change a central text style.
But as mentioned this is only an idea, I'm not an expert in transit diagrams :)
Love your work and the dedication that you put in it! Have a great day!
Incredible.
I love it that nearly 90 years on, it is still a recognisable derivative of Harry Beck's London Underground map!
@RMtransit should see this!
I do believe geographical accuracy is very important in a transport diagram: I prefer to know where I’m going than to have a slightly more readable map.
My best example would be the Paris Metro diagram
I will definitely pay more attention to our bus stop diagrams tomorrow. It looks confusing at first glance so never used it, but maybe it's actually logical.
Oslo changed its trains
L21 is now R21 and only goes to Oslo S not Stabekk (will go to stabekk in december 2023)
L22 is now R22 and only goes to Oslo S not Skøyen (permanent)
R20 is now RE20 (regional express)
L2x doesent exist anymore there is just L2
You should send this in as a suggestion to Ruter, if you have the possibility to do so. I've lived here my whole life and I've never been a fan of the transit diagrams they use (except for the T-bane-diagram). Your redesign is a huge improvement to the original diagrams, and I'd love to see it being used!
You forgot the bus lines. 😑 Good luck lol
Wow, as a norwegian who uses this system every day, I really like it! You did an incredible job :D Love how all rail lines are represented together, in one map. I'll save the PDF and share it.
Fantastic work! It looks quite cluttered at the central station, but that's only because I'm unfamiliar with having regional train lines on such maps.
Thanks! Fun fact: All railway, metro and tram lines (except line 13) stop at Oslo S/Jernbanetorget, making it a large interchange station. The regional trains play an important role as they kinda function as local trains the closer you get to Oslo.
@@T2norway cool im from Oslo and i didn’t even know that lol
@@hei1 people from Romerike Bærum/asker/drammen/ski/moss all take the train to work
@@Osskibosskiposki ok
@@T2norway Well instead it stops at the nearby Dronningens gate stop, however it doesn’t make sense as Jernbanetorget has stops even more further than the platforms A to D
I find it interesting that you showed the London diagram as an example of how the addition of fair-zones can ruin the look of a diagram.
When I was in London last summer I found the diagram with the fair-zones to be very informative for figuring out where I was able to go with my oyster-card.
A number next to each station outside of the innermost fair-zone wouldn't be as effective for that imho.
Agree.
This is a great and very clean diagram, hardly at all overloaded. Easy to understand, but at the same time preserving all the complexity of the network. I always like to see diagrams with many, many lines, that you almost get lost with so many lines (including city bus diagrams, which is even crazier) but at the same time trying to be as minimally cluttered as possible.
Maybe the only thing I would say is to reduce the spacing between the lines when they are close together as you end up with a line thickness that ends up being a bit too thick. For the rest, it is very good.
I'm genuinely curious about the loop-the-loop line. Was it intentionally designed that way? Or they had 2 lines and it made sense at the time to combine them into 1 line? What are the advantages and disadvantages of such a line?
Super Gracias for doing this in English. I love what you do and appreciate that you expand the knowledge of transit systems for those who come from transit neglected areas like Dallas
You know good design when you see it. This is just beautiful, great job!
i love all your videos, thanks for the continued uploads
I thought about doing this for my home city, Melbourne, naively forgetting that there are 2000 tram stops...
whenever i look at the nyc subway's map, i get a headache. whenever i see this map, my headache goes away
Hei, Jeg bor i Oslo og dette virket som et veldig bra kart dersom man besøker Oslo som turist🤗 Jeg besøkte nylig en kompis i Milano og jeg synes det var veldig forvirende som turist å finne ut hvilke tog, trikk og metro som gikk hvor og hvilke type billetter man trengte, så noe sånt som dette hadde vært helt supert. 😉
Kjelsås the train station is really far from kjelsås the tram in your diagram
Noe jeg lenge har drømt om er et samlet linjekart over bussene i Akershus (+ Oslo + nattbussene i begge fylker) fremfor dagens separerte linjekarter for hhv. Follo, Øvre Romerike, Bærum, Nittedal, Asker, Nedre Romerike, Oslo, nattbuss i Akershus og nattbuss i Oslo.
(Btw,
Vestby and Sonsveien train stations are in Zone 3S, not 2S)
Could you tell me, what Programm you are using for that? I want to do that too!
Beautiful! Thank you for making this video!
I like collecting and making transit diagrams, but definitely not to your level of professionalism. This looks amazing.
I was kinda sad that you gave up on the place names and other city features, because as a potential visitor to Olso who likes to travel around on public transport it would have helped me get acquainted with the structure of the city more easily.
the splatoon 3 music caught me really off guard lol
If there’s one thing I’d add is that the (the old at least) train maps used to have greyed arrows showing cities outside the region. So an arrow to Trondheim from Lillehammer and Stockholm from Kongsvinger etc. Otherwise this is pretty neat
Why not busses too? It's like that in Zurich
I was in Oslo today and I used your map to get around. Thanks a lot, great work, I love the design!
I think you make a lot of choices that abide conventional design wisdom but IMO are overvalued. Like you talk about eschewing geographical features because that's not the purpose of a transit map, but I think including just a tiny bit of landmark information like rivers and parks and even major streets can make a massive difference in orienting yourself when you just walk out the station. You've gone with the whole every-route-its-own-color style but the result is a thick rainbow of largely redundant information. Oslo looks like it would be very suited to the "trunk line coloring" system used in NY. I agree your previous map had problems with over-compressing the routes, but its ok for a "trunk" of services to all have one color that only forks in a "Y" shape near the end. Indeed you have an easier problem than many other systems, because you don't have express and local variants sharing the same track. A service that goes down a track makes all the stops therein. So putting a label on every single line saying "this stops here too" is repetitive and can be cut.
As a swed who has many a time been confused by Oslo's commuter maps this really is an improvment! Reminds me of the huge commuter maps in Stockholm which include all services in the entire city on one map, although we don't have the same amount of tram lines so it might be a wee bit easier to design than Oslo's
I live in Melbourne, Australia and with the insane amount of trams we have designing a combined map would be very difficult...
Send this to VY,# and T-Bane
What's the font you're using? I've read some things recently about Atkinson Hyperlegible, that seems to be the new hotness for accessible/legible typefaces.
in the diagram i'm using Ruter's own font, called TID: brand.ruter.no/d/3LOphUstQWYz/identitet#/visuell-profil/typografi-1560261085 (license free, anyone can use it)
very clean, I dig it
also taking inspiration from Jug Cerovic was a plus
So I suck at transport stuff, but I love graphic design, and I also do a bit of pcb design. Seeing all these lines all nice together just like the traces of a PCB is very satisfying to me.
Uffff, I can’t stress enough about how good this video is. The editing, the music, the timing, the brilliant design skills… please do more redesign videos like this😍
Love it but I don't think anything can touch the perfection that is the Tube map. Maybe that's just because London doesn't really have a central station to get too cluttered?
Nothing beats the Tube map, and redesigners hate that universal fact.
always a great day when t2norway uploads :)
It's great to see the design thinking with a focus on execution & craft!
The Octoling have taken over Oslos transport. In all seriousness great vid and subbed.
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Now add the buses😂
It's interesting, my instinctive reaction was "hmm personally I'd do it like in the original version", but then I tried to articulate why and... couldn't! In the new version it's very easy to trace a given line across the map, which is what's actually most useful for the user, even as it might look "overwhelming" for a newcomer at first glance.
With that said, I am curious to see what the original 2017 version would look like where the route numbers along the lines were larger (possibly within shaded bullets) and the trams were marked with smaller text + thinner lines.
I personally love the geographical correct transit diagrams, my city has it this why, its easier to find the route form one point to another way easyer . but i also understand that in such a complex diagram its more important to still have the overview and also giving all the informations needed.
Really nice Work, I like the simplicity!
Could you try making a similar plan for Hanover, Germany; would appreciate it!
Thanks for a great video!
It's fascinating to hear your thought processes about all these design choices and attention to detail that so many passengers don't consciously notice.
This is a masterpiece, easy-going and explanation why and how. Making complicated things easy to understand is hard but you did it easy
Oslo having loads of different lines, with colors for commuter rail which all go to pretty much the same places, really throws a wrench in this. :-) Stockholm would for example view Skien-Eidsvoll and Kongsberg-Eidsvoll as the same line, but with a split. R30 is "regional" and L3 is "local", but it's the same way, just R30 going further. Pure nonsense.
Can you please do this for more cities around the globe? I love this design.
Such a good video! Suggestion: It might be time to “let the rainbows touch”, in the style of 1980s-1990s Sydney diagrams or even the Circle line in London. You have so many lines that reverting the newer negative-space trend may be better. Possibly, you could still group the trains and metro? Or just do the trains, so that the “5” metro loop can succeed as a double-loop.
Leaving the big gap away would've been better imo. Intuitively, I first thought those lines went a considerable distance before stopping at stations in far away suburbs.
Nice, now add busses 😈xD
that's a devilish task
Yeah this looks better.
but I think I still prefer,
the old fare zone style.
Cheer~~a simplified drawing showing the appearance, structure, or workings of something--- a schematic representation.😊
I'd love seeing this map on the stations, and it would be helpful for my mom :D
Looks amazing! Only thing is the omission of ferry services. Ferries are a big part of getting around Oslo
Good stuff. One note. You should add the transfer blob to Lillestrøm as well, since this is where you would transfer to L1 when traveling from the north/east. Same for Asker. (Unless it's intended to only showcase transfer options between different types of transportation)
The Splatoon 3 music at 6:58 hit different
But does this line up with the actual city. With a train you have to build track and stations and stuff unlike busses that use roads that already exist
Great work and explanation.
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hey you inspired me to do redesing of Województwo Dolnośląskie :D
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The most of Oslo's "tunnel" line is not in tunnels, and as I found out it was initially suburban trains, until the electric contact rail - the third rail - was added. Because here in Saint Petersburg the metro is smaller, though our population is about equal to the population of all the country of Norway. However, it's more frequent (train each 2-3 minutes) and all under ground. Still, Oslo being smaller as a city means it's easier to design such a useful thing. Having single tickets including all city public transport (metro, tram, buses and trolleybuses) it is quite weird there's no information table with all types of transit.
That so much information can still fit on an analogue information stand is incredible. It doesn't feel complete not showing intervals, with no ferries. But one should manage to stop himself and see the border between informativeness and simplicity.
There's a green loop .....it's almost in all metros/ locals/ trams..... World wide followed.
That's bcoz Chicago initial built & then expanded branches.
Later same tourist history followed step wise development.
“Also it kinda looks like an octopus” 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
Such a great video, love to see your process! I also dabble in transit map design and it's so cool to see you tackling the same questions and the thought process in answering them :)
Loop lines and its directions can be so confusing. I live in Hamburg which has a loop line U3 (metro line) and it's sometimes so hard to know, which direction you should take.
I guess, e.g. Wrocław (my home city) has a perfect solution for it. The line number is 0 (zero), but it has additionally one of the two letters: P for clockwise direction ("prawy" in Polish) and L for anti clockwise direction ("lewy").
Really appreciate your job, and warm greetings from Indonesia ☺
Great job, but there are some oversights. There are grey gaps instead of whites IMHO. It's around the Loren station where tram 17 criscross the Tbane 4 line. Can't add a photo in youtube comments. It's on every gap added to separate the cricrossing lines (Ulleval stadium).
Going to Oslo right after Christmas. Great I’ll download the pdf to a tablet. 9:03 Bugger it.
Well maybe it will be useful anyway.
4:05 When you used 5pt stroke and text in Adobe Illustrator, did they become blurry when you imported them into Adobe After Effects? If yes, how would you fix the problem?
The design is amazing, simplistic but informative. I would be great to see you re-design the London Underground map.
Good stuff. The worst example I have seen is the Israel Railways diagram. A challenge for you.
I think including boroughs, landmarks and rivers is a great idea - but it does come with a cluttering risk. Don't give up on the idea. I also liked the frequency line thickness idea, I thought it was well explained on the map.
Could include walk distances between stations where changing is normal, like walking from Brynseng T-bane to Bryn Trainstation is 3-4min. Also marking Bryn as not functional for disabled or babytrollers in north direction. Just some suggestions. Great work. Will definitively use this map in the future. Thanks!
Wow thanks a lot for this video. Actually I have been trying something similar for my hometown Cologne many years ago with pretty much zero knowledge about design or design software. Seeing this makes me wanna pick up and revamp my work from back then, I feel like there's so much more I can do, despite sharing many similarities (in ideas) with you.
Great result!
Love how clean and modern this looks!
One suggestion i have for differentiating the modes? Have the line numbers in a different shape. Like a circle for busses (here the bus stop signs tend to have a circle with an H in it). Square for trams, Hexagon Trains, etc.
Alternatively: the white "dotted" squares in different shapes depending what kind of transit mode it is. like a filled line for one mode, dots for another, squares or rectangles for another.
I will say though, you do have me interested and curious about the making of a transit line map. ... i wonder if i should try it out for myself maybe...
Wow that's some work. I created India's HSR map for Wikipedia, thought it'd be quick and easy but boy it exhausted me, took me almost a week. I regret not watching your video first.
One nitpick. I think L13 should be parallel to line 10-12 until Kløfta. This is how it is in real life and on the official rail map now, L13 while technically a seperate line (hovedbanen) runs in parallel to the gardermoen line before branching out towards Jessheim. This map gives the impression that hovedbanen and gardermoen line are geographically seperated when they run in parallel It's possible to run a service that goes on Hovedbanen until Kløfta before going to Oslo Airport instead of Jessheim, such a service used to exist like 10 years ago.
Personally I find a geographically-accurate transit map ideal since the purpose of transit is to get you from where you are to where you want to go. Making the map relatively accurate and only displaying major landmarks like bodies of water as background elements (maybe light gray blobs?) helps significantly when orienting a more detailed map with the transit map to compare which route to take to get to a certain place.
My favorite example I can think of right now are the maps found in the Pokemon games--especially the in-game map for the Kalos Region in Pokemon X and Y.
Good job with the map though! I think you did well making it clean and legible like you intended. :)
So satisfying to watch. Great video. And great map, too. Kudos!
would love to see this done with some fictional lines, like from Thomas and Friends or from popular Cities Skylines workshop cities/traffic giant scenarios. xD
I'd say not including the ferry services, under pretext that it'd be to cluttered, is a mistake... I mean if you're designing a transit map, then include all the available transit options.
Otherwise, great work! There's a guy, can't remember his name, that redesigned London's and Paris' transit map with following circular lines.
Very nice redesign!
I'm wondering about bus lines though. Living in the city, you almost never take the trains, but the bus is the only to reach many parts of the city. And people that take the train regularly would always take the same usual lines. That would make a map targeted at city users... I'm then wondering if it would become too complex? I feel like it would almost need to become geographical, to fit all the little stations everywhere... What do you think about this problem?
On the UX side of it, I actually find that I often miss a geographical map. I'm mostly used to stick to T-bane lines, and when I'm in some parts of the city like Grünerløkka, with no T-bane, I never know where to go to find the closest public transport station. It's something that the Paris public transport maps do pretty well I find. It looks very busy, but if you have a rough idea of the area you're going to on a map, without knowing the names of the area and neighbourhoods, you can find the line you want extremely fast. Very useful for tourists and newcomers.
Another thought in favor of some more geographically accurate maps, would be for example a detailed map of the city center, where you could see exactly where different exits of a station lead you too (that damn Stortinget station is a maze to me). Another thing that all metro stations in Paris have and that is very useful...
As a dane that moved til Lisbon, I really miss the nordics excellent public transport maps.
Its a mess here. It works fine for each individual mode of transport, but the mix of companies, standards and visual language is confusing when you have to combine different modes.
And busses.. Ugh.. They made a major shift in the busroutes on the south side, which is far more like what i know in DK, so that is noce, but there is stil a long way to go in mapping the network as a whole.
The loss of the frequency category widths really makes me sad. Another resource you could perhaps use is the patterns of the embedded dashes (rectangles vs squares, or evenly spaced vs paired dashes) or (as you used in the airport connection) their colours.
I have to admit I've never tried anything consumer-oriented, though. I'm no expert at judging clutter.
It would be super Interesting to do the Same for Berlin. We have Buses, S-Bahn, Subway, Trams and even some ferries. Also the city is way larger.
Totally can appreciate this video, but at the same time I lived in Seoul for 6 weeks or so at the start of the year and I started appreciating that these maps are... a relic of a bygone age. Seoul's (technically Seouls Capital Area's) transit system is far too complex to put on a map, and that really doesn't matter. Each city has at least one app that handles transit directions, and these apps are in essence personalized transit maps showing only the things that are relevant to you. Trying to make a map for everyone just means that it's always 'not that good', whether by being overwhelming or not detailed enough. For example your attempt to add frequency was a great idea... except frequency in many systems change depending on the day (and shutdown at different times). At the end of the day a transit map is typically not enough to navigate a city using public transit in the evening, because you have no idea what is and isn't open. And of course you can't fit buses on it either. Still as a full stack developer who loves UX design and transit: Loved this video and good job! 👍
Great stuff!
Im confused about the general theme of your YT channel, though. What is it you do here? What kind of videos could I expect from you in the future if I subscribe?
I think there is a difference when you design for tourists and for locals. Locals don't care about landmarks, they know them, they don't care about clarity over completeness, they will learn to read the diagram. With tourists you can sacrafice completeness for clarity since they do not have time to learn to read the quirks of the diagram. But Local would appreciate the completeness much more so that they can minmax their routes. With that said tourists would probably appreciate the landmarks tho.
Great production!
You might consider marking the oportunity to change from metro to train between Brynseng and Bryn. Short walk between train and metro there.
Although the octopus joke is meant to be funny, this might actually be a great marketing tool to get buy in from users. Give it a silly, fun, catchy name and people will say "how do I get there? Oh! I can check the Octopus!"
I dont rlly know where oslo is or what a transit diagram is. But I somehow found the video satisfying and enjoyable. Well u say a designer's job is to convey a clear and logic design.
And I would say u did a pretty damn good job.
Could you make like an alternative line4 that goes from Bergkrystallen to Vestli with a line from Tøyen to Carl Berners plass or something. Instead of Line 4 having to travel westwards to like Majorstuen etc.. only to then travel eastwards to Vestli
as a person looking to major in Digital Media Art, this video was so inspiring!!