I love how your channel brings in a 1000 different perspectives and doesnt just revolve around colour seasons and kibbe and kitcher. Like i really like your style root thing. Someone else might like this one. At the end of the day these are just assesments and not hard lines - so it helps to have more than one perspective ETA : Also im a moonstone too (:
I've been following Rita's channel for months and, ironically, this quick convo made me realize I'm definitely a Sapphire. I love rules and structure and being extra. I love going above and beyond what's required and I'm inviting the world to see my drip. Also, Ellie your hair looks fabulous! Love the color, the cut and the body!
Same for me, the Moonstone instantly clicked after hearing the explanation here on the channel. When I watched Rita's explanation, I thought I was Sapphire.
Funny, this system strongly reminds me of the decision making cognitive functions (from Jung or MBTI). Left would be associated with feeling and right with thinking, whereas up would be associated with extroversion and down with introversion (in this system extroversion and introversion just means being outward focused or inward focused). This means top right would be extroverted thinking (Te) which matches the strategic, responding to the external world in a way that makes sense vibe. Bottom right would be introverted thinking (Ti) which is all about figuring out a system of style rules that makes sense to you. Bottom left is introverted feeling (Fi) which is all about being true to your inner feelings and what you value without outside influence. Top left would then be extroverted feeling (Fe) which probably matches the least, but I suppose focusing on how your style expression is perceived by others in a more intuitive way is very Fe.
Ha I am an introvert but I can force myself to be introverted when the stakes are high...career, attracting the right man into life goals...and high in thinking....and that is how I dress interesting
@@latinaalma1947 In the myers-briggs system you have both an extroverted decision making function and an introverted decision making function. They are just in different places in the cognitive function stack. Basically, the lower one is more stressful / used in higher stress situations. If you are interested look up cognitive function stack! Its a really cool system.
Your style roots have given so much insight into why I have had a hard time placing myself in Rita’s system. My style roots are mushroom, earth and fire. Mushroom feels super “right” essence while fire feels very “left”, earth could go either way. Fire could also be very up with its glamour, mushroom is somewhere in the middle and earth is down.
I am sooo a moomstone too. Obsessed by finding the perfect piece? Yes. Struggling with setting and following rules? Yes. Care about what people think (too much?). Yes. But I appreciate how this system is not about a specific style or element to wear rather than your approach to clothing and personal style.
As a fellow Moonstone I definitely relate to the getting hung up on rules but I absolutely LOVE a theme! I love how it's my own version of storytelling even though no-one may ever "get it" or understand the nods I'm making to an event or theme, it doesn't matter, it excites me and makes me enjoy dressing.
Ahh, I’ve been looking forward to this collab since you both announced it on social media! I think you’re correct that a lot of your advice on this channel tends to skew right+down, but one of the things I love about your content as a left+down person is your emphasis on “creating an effect,” aka breaking the rules with intention. It’s given me a lot of ideas on how to experiment with what I like. 😄
Ahhh my favorite collab ever! So excited to see you two chatting, we need more Ellie & Rita videos! Rita's system has been sooo transformational for me with style. Would be so cool to see a talk about your style roots and how to combine them with your quadrant & archetype!
I find this whole personal style world fascinating. I am a natural creative and I think being a fashion designer/interior designer would come naturally and most often people ask if I am an artist/model/fashion designer because of how I look and what I wear but the funny thing is, is that I literally roll out of bed and throw things on - I am a Ruby based on watching this video as well as a heavy Earth with a touch of Mushroom and Stone. I wear the same few pieces, which has comfort front and center, but in a variety of colours (in the soft/true autumn palette which is unintentional but true to me). Based on the one video you did I feel like I am a combo of mellow autumn and gamine autumn which sometimes, outside of wearing a more muted monochromatic or colorblock outfit that is totally relaxed, I can end up wearing statement pieces usually in the form of jackets because I love unique, vintage pieces to layer with. I am soft dramatic/dramatic essence also and probably don’t do my body type justice but again, definitely dress for myself and for comfort. I love this content cause it shows how every body is different but also how everyone expresses themselves differently for different reasons. I find it all so intriguing because for us women and the fashion/clothing industry, we can feel insecure and struggle with body image but in reality we are all so unique proportions and shape wise and what not but then on a deeper personal level - we are also so complex and what we wear definitely is an expression to something much deeper. 🤍
I love Rita! 😍 Thank you for highlighting her here!! 🤗 She has such a thoughtful, artistic, intuitive approach to personal style! She romanticizes the whole process in a way that makes getting dressed feel so special and my purchasing decisions more intentional! 🥰
I LOVE Rita, I’m doing a workshop of hers this weekend. I also absolutely love your videos and your system too Ellie Jean!! What a fun intersection here 😊
Im certainly right, I think moonstone right down. I focus on how my style affects me, and it has changed depending what I need and can be against trend, and I like the elegance and put togetherness. Having an ideal in mind and trying to find the perfect piece is a big thing with me
I think I'm left down,I value authenticity 3:03,comfort and personal self confidence over what others see, it's why I do makeup and accessories even when I'm the only who will see me other than my spouse.
I love that you guys collaborated! I use both your systems ❤ Left Up with Moon + Earth + Sun. I wonder if we did a survey, whether certain style roots would be represented differently in the different quadrants?! Man I’d love to see that data.
Yesss, that data sounds juicy to me too 🧚♀The data correlations of the Moon + Sun are the easiest to predict! Moon is *the* exemplification of Left, and Sun of the Right side. As to the others, I'd expect to see the following patterns: Mushroom --> correlating with Right Down (moonstone) Flower --> also with Right Down (maybe double because Ellie falls here herself 😇) Mountain --> Right Up (sapphire) and Up in general Stone --> Left Down and Down in general Fire --> Left Up (ruby) and Left in general
I just recently found Rita's channel and am thrilled you just made this video and actually chatted with her. I had started to struggle with my wardrobe quite a while ago which was the main reason for me to dive deeper into Kibbe, Kitchener and SCA which lead me to your channel a while ago. But honestly, trying to perfectly match the recommendations for my Kibbe ID and my Kitchener essences while honoring my own coloring yet matching my own aesthetic felt almost impossible. I then found the channel Silkymochi which includes even astrology into the mix and also talks a lot about dark aesthetics. She once said she as a dark winter sometimes would love to have the look a light spring (which I am) can have when wearing dark colors, especially black. The edgy vibe that gives off would be something she could never achieve wearing black because it looks at home on her. That rang a bell for me already. I love that vibe, that aesthetic, I don't really vibe with the radiant and fresh vibe I give off when I wear my own colors and I never really seem to be able to make my own colors go with my Kibbe ID and my Kitchener essences and feel like myself. I just CAN'T match my own aesthetic with that combination. I come off totally differently when I try and I just don't feel right. Even in the darkest clothes of my own color palette, I feel off. I can see that they look lovely against my coloring, but it's almost like not recognizing myself anymore. And allowing myself to actually acknowledge that and accepting it, was a rough step to take for some reason. When I then found Rita's channel it suddenly felt like it made perfect sense. I resonate most with the Ruby style key and ever since I watched her videos, I feel like dressing for myself has never been more easy. I now can easily use your system as well because my aesthetics make perfect sense in combination with that Ruby style key. I can also combine both with my Kibbe ID and my essence blend with ease. It's crazy to me because I always thought the missing link was knowing my actual seasonal color palette, but that was never the case. I mean, of course, whenever I don't feel like wearing any make up, I wear my own colors and just go about my day. But those are typically the days I just don't feel like doing anything and need lots of comfort and REALLY don't care about what I look like. Wearing my colors does avoid people asking "Are you okay?", when I wear no make up though, which is a question I really don't wanna hear when I am in "that" mood. So it's a way of avoidance in that case. And it works. So knowing my SCP isn't useless at all. But I rarely wear no make up, I have a specific make up routine that I use on a daily basis that I can go through in about 10 minutes easily. So I don't even think about it anymore, I just "put my face on" quickly and don't need to care about it until I take it all off again. It's not that I hate my bare face, not at all, but I really like that specific make up look on myself and it perfectly goes with the aesthetic, style and vibe I prefer for myself. It's my type of accessory since I don't really wear much jewelry. And my hair is also some sort of accessory for me. Both add a bit of easy edge to my look without taking much effort or time. And honestly when I don't feel like wearing color, I will just stand in front of my wardrobe for ages and stare at all the pieces in my color season and feel repelled by it. On top of that: I don't really enjoy looking very feminine anyways. Androgynous looks are my favorite. I love wearing men's clothes and really enjoy breaking the rules anyways. I just didn't allow myself to dive deeper into that realm for whatever reason. I don't know why I felt the urge to push myself into liking how I feel in typical feminine looks. Don't get me wrong: I like how I look in feminine outfits and styles. I like how I look wearing a long haired, tousled wig, and softly blended make up, all my perfect silhouettes and lines and the correct colors, but I feel SO WRONG following those aesthetics. I mean, if I would ever model again or act in a movie (which I don't think would happen anyways, but just "if") I would easily know how to style myself for whatever role, so it's fun to know all that and use it as a tool, but I really am not that person. What I figured out by now: I like myself in both FN and D lines, but I love D make up more on my face. I prefer darker neutrals and dark colors, picking an outfit a day before wearing it doesn't work for me because I will ultimately question it when I put it on because it will not feel right anymore that day. Just picking everything on the go works best for me. And if I truly allow myself to listen to what feels right in that moment, it works out perfectly fine and doesn't take much time at all. In your system moon and stone are the most prominent roots and most important for me to follow, the third one can vary and depends on my mood and how I feel that day (so I won't pressure myself into settling for a specific third root anymore). About Kitchener: I vibe the most with Natural Dramatic and Gamine essence. I am not 100% sure that these actually ARE my essences, but they make the most sense to me in terms of how I prefer to dress, so I allow myself to do so. Following rules doesn't make much sense to me. I don't really care about what other people think about the way I look like, I just wanna be me and feel like myself. And if that means not perfectly following "the rules", I am - by now - totally fine with that. I once was 100% sure about having Kibbe width, but now I am not too sure anymore. Due to my height I can only be either DC, FN, SD or D, I have no Kibbe curve though, so SD is eliminated already. I feel like classic lines aren't really doing me much favor, so I would say DC is out as well. So I really only have FN and D left anyways. I am not sure if I have width, not too sure if I have sharpness. But both silhouettes don't look wrong on me imho. So today I just told myself that I am allowed to like both and wear both. And that felt freeing. All these systems are fascinating and have their own way of teaching us wonderful things about ourselves if we let them. But we are the ones who decide how much of each system we wanna adopt into our way to dress and style ourselves. And besides that: we are the ones to decide how we want to look like. On retrospec I am very happy that I chose to try it all out, just to see what it does for me and how I feel following the recommendations given by each system. It lead me to allowing myself to unapologetically dress for myself and do it my way.
Omg... you have described me😂 and my personal struggles with the style systems in this world. We still have some differences. I'm sure that I'm a kibbe dramatic and maybe this help you. The ultimate question for me was what feel better on me sleek or oversized. I like oversized on me but the ultimate home feeling is a sleek look. And I'm a cool summer but I hate this colors 😅
I love the idea of this system but have a very hard time placing myself. I definitely think my style is about communication, I communicate how I’m feeling and my personality through my style but it is important to me that people get an accurate representation of me through my style.
I’m obviously not Rita so not the expert, but I’ve been following her channel for a while and it sounds to me like you could potentially be Left+Up/Amethyst? Since you’re focused on yourself first and foremost (rather than external factors, within reason) but you also want to make sure your clothes reflect that sense of self and other people get the message.
i really have you both to thank because it really helps me to refined my wardrobe and determined my personal style, so I could shop better and not waste money. I am a soft classic, with ingenue and romantic essence. My style roots are flower, mushroom, and sun. My key style is moonstone. The only thing I haven't figure out yet is color season, but I feel like I'm dark autumn.
Oh I love that you two are coming together and putting your style systems in relation to each other! I really love to follow both of your content creations ❤
Left is edgier. Right is more angelic. Up is for others, down is for the self. Ellie’s style roots can be spread throughout. I consider myself Ruby: stone, moon, fire. I do lean moonstone, though: sun
I think the sentence presenting your essence to the world just changed forever how I will dress and display my physical appearance. I did not really care about my appearance truthfully or want to put real effort in. But that sentence may have just changed my life.
This is a great new tool to add to my toolbox! I’m a Sapphire. I’ll definitely combine it with my style roots (Flower, Mountain, Sun) to be intentional about my wardrobe!
The collab we’ve been waiting for! I love how you are so open to sharing other style methods on your platform, in addition to both your own and the big ones like Kibbe. Fashion expression is so flexible & always evolving, so this is definitely the smart way to go. I genuinely feel that I have a better grasp on both your & Rita’s systems now. Someone on Reddit made collages showing examples of your Style Roots in Rita’s quadrants, and it finally helped me narrow down mine!
I’ve been waiting for this collab! I found Rita just a few weeks ago and it really boosted my self confidence to wear what I love and what feels like me.
completely unrelated, but I really like the editing of the last videos! Extremely interesting content, I've been following Rita for a while and your chat was definitely enlightening to follow ;)
I've been following Rita for awhile, it's funny but just hearing the way she overviews the quadrants with you, I think I am ultimately a Sapphire. I thought I might've been Amethyst, but raw and elemental isn't it for me after all!
I was so excited to see that you two were going to make a video together ! Rita is such a warm, wonderful person, and her Style Key, along with your Style Roots, have been the most instrumental things in my style journey. Moreso than Kibbe & colour analysis for sure (probably bc I'm a L+U / Amethyst, so the more vibes/personality based "rules" are much more for me than the stricter systems). I'd be so interested to see if certain style roots pop up more in certain quadrants than others ! I can see Moon appearing much more on the Left, and Mountain & Mushroom on the Right. Stone for Down maybe
Yes! The storytelling!! 100% moonstone here :) It definitely shows my green-amber aura personality as well:):) Thanks for these! These are so helpful and fascinating !
Sapphire here! Rita is an amazing person, my gentle guidance experience was amazing, and I love how this system can be applied in my everyday life. I also love the resources she provides to help people find their Style Key, especially now that her website has been updated.
This is a nice addition to the other systems - but also, I really feel a danty moonstone necklace would look great on you and would be a cute addition (and I feel in your colour season)!
I'm glad to see this colab, you're both amazing. I like being cute and a bit fancy, but not necessarily follow trends. I have been told I have "grandma taste" for clothing, both in a good sense (because my grandma is quite stylish) and in a bad sense (in a "that's way too outdated the heck are you doing" way) 😂 I thought I was a moonstone, forget it, I'm a ruby 😅
Your natural hair colour looks great on you really. It suits you so well. I understand you like blonde in yourself because blonde is attractive in itself, and because it followed you into your introduction to adulthood. But you don't "need" it to remain in your mature style.
Am I the only person that does not understand Rita’s system at all? What does ‘elemental’ mean in terms of style? How would you identify being ‘connected to yourself physically and emotionally’ from a piece of clothing? I just can’t see any consistency in the information / style / wording within each quadrant, how the heck I would begin to identify which quadrant someone was in just from the clothing they’ve chosen, or how knowing which quadrant I fit into would help me with my own clothes. But I must be the only person who feels this way as I know Rita has lots of fans and followers!
You are definitely not the only one! I'm so glad I found your comment, because I feel the same way. I cannot connect with this system at all. I can't figure out any differences especially based on the example pictures provided.
I feel you but the logic behind it honestly benefited me in how I process putting together my daily outfits but also in how I think about design as a whole. I follow Rita but I have interpreted the system in my own way. I found it more difficult to conceptualise the left and right keywords. I highly recommend her “Essence Keywords” video. She attaches examples on what it looks like. It’s the ones uploaded on November 2023. I actually prefer her “Style Key Overview” and “Style Key Logic 101” videos more helpful than the essence keywords ones. Here she explains your internal landscape (e.g. how you want feel in your clothes, the vibe you want to communicate, your personality, your emotions, thoughts, comfort level, etc.) and external landscapes (e.g. personal context/circumstances, weather in your area, lifestyle needs, external inspirations, etc). She discusses that the intention and the direction of how you dress-ie. from internal to external, internal to internal, external to internal and external to external-defines your outfit decision-making process. We all use every single style logic but Rita says that having a preferred style logic can offer clarity and satisfaction for people who are overwhelmed and unhappy with how they approach their personal style. A fun fact about Rita is that she’s also a sociologist and so she thinks about individual style in relation to society. What I like about the system is that it’s highly context-dependent. Fashion trends vary in different places and the trends cycle very quickly so what is considered “left” to me may as well be “right” to someone else. It really depends on the expectations on how to dress in your area. Her keywords are just a guide and she emphasises that they’re not rigid terms nor are the examples she uses. In fact, she encourages her viewers to create their own style keywords/dictionaries. Honestly, it’s a less prescriptive typing system so I understand why it’s more difficult to place yourself in (I was used to Kibbe and PCA). But once you understand the concept and what it’s for, I think it’s intuitive and it makes the outfit-making process easier, quicker and more fun!
Yep. I emidietly embraced style roots and with color analysis and some basic knowledge of body proportions and how to dress to look as long and slim or small ass possible is all the info I need from now on! Style roots rules! 👑
I think I am the Moonstone as well, that resonates with me! I am also soft classic and I am quite sure I belong to the summer family, but as soft summer :D
I think your style roots system and this key really interact with each other for you. Your style system is quite inward looking, like a moonstone would be. It had also just occurred to me that it's funny it took you a while to figure out that earth is one of your roots when you literally named your system after something that's found in the earth 😅
I truthfully felt why does knowing your colour season and style matter but it prevents over consumption of clothing while empowering women to feel their best and present themselves in their appearance who they are.
Hi, just to let you know you linked your convo with Rita twice in the description box. The link you've labelled as "Rita's youtube channel" redirects to your patreon.
Well, this was confusing especially the left right dimension. The verbage used was a little contradictory especially on the right. I feel like it could be a lot simpler since it's supposed to be a simple system. Like left - right : comfortable/freeform - refined/structured; up - down: extravagant/showy - simple/moderate. I mean I don't think of dreamy or whimsical and refined together but at the same time they could apply to both sides if I have correctly interpreted what they said about it. (I took too long to write this comment. Shout out to my dusty dictionary because I'm forgetting words and how to spell them😞)
My challenge is to create synthesis between my Kibbe DC (Kitchener classic/natural/ethereal/ingenue) limitations and ruby style key. I might have to learn to sew as it is an intersection that is hard to shop for. Lol. Imagine my difficulty once I figure out my stlyle roots. 😂
I’m so confused. You keep saying comfortable, relaxed and in tune with yourself for left/down but then showing Kim Kardashian…who basically only wears high heels and super tight, uncomfortable clothing that’s meant for getting stares and attention. Nothing about how she dresses says “comfortable.” Everything about how she dresses seems way more up right…it’s over the top and for everyone else and for likes/views/drama.
I think it's because most of her everyday outfit are in a sportswear/homewear sort of style (sweaters, bodysuits, leggings etc...). She's not wearing blazers and linen shirts everyday 😅
@@7773CLA It came off as much more of an attack than I meant it. I just don't think any of Kim's clothes have conveyed that being comfortable is the goal. There's nothing wrong with how she dresses, her look has just always had a specific aesthetic and goal that doesn't scream comfortable or relaxed. Billy Eilish also dresses in an over the top attention-getting way but her clothes are often baggy, loose and oversized--things that do make me think "comfortable." All celebrities are going to cultivate a brand and dress for some kind of attention, so it's probably hard to use any celebrity as an example of personal style that we can follow or relate to, especially because they also have stylists helping them.
You need to watch Rita’s videos! The 4 quadrants don’t line up along aesthetics, they line up along motivational (?kind of?) things. There are through-lines of aesthetic qualities that people share inside quadrants (or along each axis), but inside each quadrant you’ll have a really wide variety of aesthetics, tastes, and choices. And “being comfortable” is not the goal for Rubys/Left Down, it’s a goal that most people share. But what is “comfortable” might change in meaning, and how each key figures out what’s comfortable for them is different. It’s part of the “style logic”. Ruby’s are led by the physical sensation of the body, and how their own outfits make them feel emotionally and psychologically as well. Their style choices are best inspired by who they are, who they want to be, their state of mind, separate from the exterior context of where and when they are dressing. I dress NOTHING like Kim K, but we are both Ruby Key. One thing we still have in common is that we sometimes feel almost underdressed for an event? Like we can’t help dressing in a type of signature outfit (or almost a uniform) in a way that looks different from others around us, in a plain or neutral aesthetic that’s almost minimal. She favors stretchy garments that move, and hugging super tight silhouettes… the term “body con” to mean a very tight or clingy silhouette comes literally from “body-conscious”… her style decisions are first led by how the clothes feel on her body and make her feel physically and psychologically. Also keep in mind that the 4 style keys are 4 quadrants on an axis, and because of that, a Ruby like Kim could he near the top or the right of the Ruby quadrant, and could be CLOSER to people technically in other keys like the Right Up (Sapphire) or Left Up (Amethyst) than she is from people in her own quadrant who are way way down or way way left…she may have more in common with those other people in some ways, but she’s in the spot she is (more down than up, more left than right) because of what motivations and logics will work best for her or that she employs at this time in her life to result in the look and feel she wants to create.
The most effective way to stop hating your wardrobe is to get rid of extra fat on the waistline. You really don’t hate your wardrobe, you hate the extra fat that makes you deformed, especially if it’s placed on your waistline.
I agree. I just can’t get my head around Rita’s system, and it feels like a lot of words that don’t say anything to me. The fact that the majority of people align with Sapphire or Moonstone suggest it’s not a particularly balanced ‘system’ But it does seem to resonate with others, so good for them I guess?!
This is an intriguing concept. However, I am having trouble connecting with it and applying it to myself. I just don't get it. The descriptors and pictures provided aren't helpful to figure out where I fit. All of the examples just look high fashion to me. This seems like an incomplete explanation. Elle-Jean, your style roots are somewhat helpful--a little more than this system. But this Style Key system is just incoherent.
I love how your channel brings in a 1000 different perspectives and doesnt just revolve around colour seasons and kibbe and kitcher. Like i really like your style root thing. Someone else might like this one. At the end of the day these are just assesments and not hard lines - so it helps to have more than one perspective
ETA : Also im a moonstone too (:
I've been following Rita's channel for months and, ironically, this quick convo made me realize I'm definitely a Sapphire. I love rules and structure and being extra. I love going above and beyond what's required and I'm inviting the world to see my drip. Also, Ellie your hair looks fabulous! Love the color, the cut and the body!
Same for me, the Moonstone instantly clicked after hearing the explanation here on the channel. When I watched Rita's explanation, I thought I was Sapphire.
Funny, this system strongly reminds me of the decision making cognitive functions (from Jung or MBTI). Left would be associated with feeling and right with thinking, whereas up would be associated with extroversion and down with introversion (in this system extroversion and introversion just means being outward focused or inward focused).
This means top right would be extroverted thinking (Te) which matches the strategic, responding to the external world in a way that makes sense vibe. Bottom right would be introverted thinking (Ti) which is all about figuring out a system of style rules that makes sense to you. Bottom left is introverted feeling (Fi) which is all about being true to your inner feelings and what you value without outside influence. Top left would then be extroverted feeling (Fe) which probably matches the least, but I suppose focusing on how your style expression is perceived by others in a more intuitive way is very Fe.
I love this! I’ll have to think more about it:)
True for me! I'm an INFP and a left down ☺️
Ha I am an introvert but I can force myself to be introverted when the stakes are high...career, attracting the right man into life goals...and high in thinking....and that is how I dress interesting
@@latinaalma1947 In the myers-briggs system you have both an extroverted decision making function and an introverted decision making function. They are just in different places in the cognitive function stack. Basically, the lower one is more stressful / used in higher stress situations.
If you are interested look up cognitive function stack! Its a really cool system.
The video overwhelmed me but your reflection made it 1000% easier. Thank you.
I'm so happy to know you both, knowing the style keys and style roots made such a big difference in the way I see my personal style. ❤
Your style roots have given so much insight into why I have had a hard time placing myself in Rita’s system. My style roots are mushroom, earth and fire. Mushroom feels super “right” essence while fire feels very “left”, earth could go either way. Fire could also be very up with its glamour, mushroom is somewhere in the middle and earth is down.
I am sooo a moomstone too. Obsessed by finding the perfect piece? Yes. Struggling with setting and following rules? Yes. Care about what people think (too much?). Yes. But I appreciate how this system is not about a specific style or element to wear rather than your approach to clothing and personal style.
Same!!
I LOVE RITAS SYSTEM!! IT HAS HELPED ME SO MUCH!
As a fellow Moonstone I definitely relate to the getting hung up on rules but I absolutely LOVE a theme! I love how it's my own version of storytelling even though no-one may ever "get it" or understand the nods I'm making to an event or theme, it doesn't matter, it excites me and makes me enjoy dressing.
I’m a sapphire. This is fun- a “contribution to the place you’re going to”, YES.
Ahh, I’ve been looking forward to this collab since you both announced it on social media! I think you’re correct that a lot of your advice on this channel tends to skew right+down, but one of the things I love about your content as a left+down person is your emphasis on “creating an effect,” aka breaking the rules with intention. It’s given me a lot of ideas on how to experiment with what I like. 😄
Ahhh my favorite collab ever! So excited to see you two chatting, we need more Ellie & Rita videos! Rita's system has been sooo transformational for me with style. Would be so cool to see a talk about your style roots and how to combine them with your quadrant & archetype!
They recently did another one, and it’s on Rita’s channel!
I find this whole personal style world fascinating. I am a natural creative and I think being a fashion designer/interior designer would come naturally and most often people ask if I am an artist/model/fashion designer because of how I look and what I wear but the funny thing is, is that I literally roll out of bed and throw things on - I am a Ruby based on watching this video as well as a heavy Earth with a touch of Mushroom and Stone. I wear the same few pieces, which has comfort front and center, but in a variety of colours (in the soft/true autumn palette which is unintentional but true to me). Based on the one video you did I feel like I am a combo of mellow autumn and gamine autumn which sometimes, outside of wearing a more muted monochromatic or colorblock outfit that is totally relaxed, I can end up wearing statement pieces usually in the form of jackets because I love unique, vintage pieces to layer with. I am soft dramatic/dramatic essence also and probably don’t do my body type justice but again, definitely dress for myself and for comfort.
I love this content cause it shows how every body is different but also how everyone expresses themselves differently for different reasons. I find it all so intriguing because for us women and the fashion/clothing industry, we can feel insecure and struggle with body image but in reality we are all so unique proportions and shape wise and what not but then on a deeper personal level - we are also so complex and what we wear definitely is an expression to something much deeper.
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I love Rita! 😍 Thank you for highlighting her here!! 🤗 She has such a thoughtful, artistic, intuitive approach to personal style! She romanticizes the whole process in a way that makes getting dressed feel so special and my purchasing decisions more intentional! 🥰
I LOVE Rita, I’m doing a workshop of hers this weekend. I also absolutely love your videos and your system too Ellie Jean!! What a fun intersection here 😊
I’ll be at the workshop too! 😊
I'm glad you know about Rita! She's great, takes the stress awayyyyy 😊
Im certainly right, I think moonstone right down. I focus on how my style affects me, and it has changed depending what I need and can be against trend, and I like the elegance and put togetherness. Having an ideal in mind and trying to find the perfect piece is a big thing with me
I think I'm left down,I value authenticity 3:03,comfort and personal self confidence over what others see, it's why I do makeup and accessories even when I'm the only who will see me other than my spouse.
I love that you guys collaborated! I use both your systems ❤ Left Up with Moon + Earth + Sun. I wonder if we did a survey, whether certain style roots would be represented differently in the different quadrants?! Man I’d love to see that data.
That's my exact combo of quadrant & style roots too, in the same order ! :')
@@dominiquenorman3913 …. Should we be best friends?
Yesss, that data sounds juicy to me too 🧚♀The data correlations of the Moon + Sun are the easiest to predict! Moon is *the* exemplification of Left, and Sun of the Right side. As to the others, I'd expect to see the following patterns:
Mushroom --> correlating with Right Down (moonstone)
Flower --> also with Right Down (maybe double because Ellie falls here herself 😇)
Mountain --> Right Up (sapphire) and Up in general
Stone --> Left Down and Down in general
Fire --> Left Up (ruby) and Left in general
When she described the Moonstone key, I was shocked that not everyone approaches style this way! Interesting psychology
I just recently found Rita's channel and am thrilled you just made this video and actually chatted with her.
I had started to struggle with my wardrobe quite a while ago which was the main reason for me to dive deeper into Kibbe, Kitchener and SCA which lead me to your channel a while ago. But honestly, trying to perfectly match the recommendations for my Kibbe ID and my Kitchener essences while honoring my own coloring yet matching my own aesthetic felt almost impossible. I then found the channel Silkymochi which includes even astrology into the mix and also talks a lot about dark aesthetics. She once said she as a dark winter sometimes would love to have the look a light spring (which I am) can have when wearing dark colors, especially black. The edgy vibe that gives off would be something she could never achieve wearing black because it looks at home on her. That rang a bell for me already. I love that vibe, that aesthetic, I don't really vibe with the radiant and fresh vibe I give off when I wear my own colors and I never really seem to be able to make my own colors go with my Kibbe ID and my Kitchener essences and feel like myself. I just CAN'T match my own aesthetic with that combination. I come off totally differently when I try and I just don't feel right. Even in the darkest clothes of my own color palette, I feel off. I can see that they look lovely against my coloring, but it's almost like not recognizing myself anymore. And allowing myself to actually acknowledge that and accepting it, was a rough step to take for some reason.
When I then found Rita's channel it suddenly felt like it made perfect sense. I resonate most with the Ruby style key and ever since I watched her videos, I feel like dressing for myself has never been more easy. I now can easily use your system as well because my aesthetics make perfect sense in combination with that Ruby style key. I can also combine both with my Kibbe ID and my essence blend with ease. It's crazy to me because I always thought the missing link was knowing my actual seasonal color palette, but that was never the case. I mean, of course, whenever I don't feel like wearing any make up, I wear my own colors and just go about my day. But those are typically the days I just don't feel like doing anything and need lots of comfort and REALLY don't care about what I look like. Wearing my colors does avoid people asking "Are you okay?", when I wear no make up though, which is a question I really don't wanna hear when I am in "that" mood. So it's a way of avoidance in that case. And it works. So knowing my SCP isn't useless at all. But I rarely wear no make up, I have a specific make up routine that I use on a daily basis that I can go through in about 10 minutes easily. So I don't even think about it anymore, I just "put my face on" quickly and don't need to care about it until I take it all off again. It's not that I hate my bare face, not at all, but I really like that specific make up look on myself and it perfectly goes with the aesthetic, style and vibe I prefer for myself. It's my type of accessory since I don't really wear much jewelry. And my hair is also some sort of accessory for me. Both add a bit of easy edge to my look without taking much effort or time. And honestly when I don't feel like wearing color, I will just stand in front of my wardrobe for ages and stare at all the pieces in my color season and feel repelled by it.
On top of that: I don't really enjoy looking very feminine anyways. Androgynous looks are my favorite. I love wearing men's clothes and really enjoy breaking the rules anyways. I just didn't allow myself to dive deeper into that realm for whatever reason. I don't know why I felt the urge to push myself into liking how I feel in typical feminine looks. Don't get me wrong: I like how I look in feminine outfits and styles. I like how I look wearing a long haired, tousled wig, and softly blended make up, all my perfect silhouettes and lines and the correct colors, but I feel SO WRONG following those aesthetics. I mean, if I would ever model again or act in a movie (which I don't think would happen anyways, but just "if") I would easily know how to style myself for whatever role, so it's fun to know all that and use it as a tool, but I really am not that person.
What I figured out by now: I like myself in both FN and D lines, but I love D make up more on my face. I prefer darker neutrals and dark colors, picking an outfit a day before wearing it doesn't work for me because I will ultimately question it when I put it on because it will not feel right anymore that day. Just picking everything on the go works best for me. And if I truly allow myself to listen to what feels right in that moment, it works out perfectly fine and doesn't take much time at all.
In your system moon and stone are the most prominent roots and most important for me to follow, the third one can vary and depends on my mood and how I feel that day (so I won't pressure myself into settling for a specific third root anymore).
About Kitchener: I vibe the most with Natural Dramatic and Gamine essence. I am not 100% sure that these actually ARE my essences, but they make the most sense to me in terms of how I prefer to dress, so I allow myself to do so. Following rules doesn't make much sense to me. I don't really care about what other people think about the way I look like, I just wanna be me and feel like myself. And if that means not perfectly following "the rules", I am - by now - totally fine with that.
I once was 100% sure about having Kibbe width, but now I am not too sure anymore. Due to my height I can only be either DC, FN, SD or D, I have no Kibbe curve though, so SD is eliminated already. I feel like classic lines aren't really doing me much favor, so I would say DC is out as well. So I really only have FN and D left anyways. I am not sure if I have width, not too sure if I have sharpness. But both silhouettes don't look wrong on me imho. So today I just told myself that I am allowed to like both and wear both. And that felt freeing.
All these systems are fascinating and have their own way of teaching us wonderful things about ourselves if we let them. But we are the ones who decide how much of each system we wanna adopt into our way to dress and style ourselves. And besides that: we are the ones to decide how we want to look like. On retrospec I am very happy that I chose to try it all out, just to see what it does for me and how I feel following the recommendations given by each system. It lead me to allowing myself to unapologetically dress for myself and do it my way.
Omg... you have described me😂 and my personal struggles with the style systems in this world. We still have some differences. I'm sure that I'm a kibbe dramatic and maybe this help you. The ultimate question for me was what feel better on me sleek or oversized. I like oversized on me but the ultimate home feeling is a sleek look. And I'm a cool summer but I hate this colors 😅
omg the collab we didn't know we needed
I love the idea of this system but have a very hard time placing myself. I definitely think my style is about communication, I communicate how I’m feeling and my personality through my style but it is important to me that people get an accurate representation of me through my style.
I’m obviously not Rita so not the expert, but I’ve been following her channel for a while and it sounds to me like you could potentially be Left+Up/Amethyst? Since you’re focused on yourself first and foremost (rather than external factors, within reason) but you also want to make sure your clothes reflect that sense of self and other people get the message.
@@kaytoomuchsalt5100 that’s the one I’m looking at atm!
I know I’m a Ruby gal, I’m still trying to narrow down to one archetype! I love both of your systems, so this was really cool to see lol
I love Rita's style system! Being typed a Moonstone by Rita really revealed to me of how I think and what I need from style. Her system is marvelous!
I love how you are wearing *such* a Moonstone outfit in this video. This conversation and explanation was a blessing to watch.
i really have you both to thank because it really helps me to refined my wardrobe and determined my personal style, so I could shop better and not waste money.
I am a soft classic, with ingenue and romantic essence. My style roots are flower, mushroom, and sun. My key style is moonstone.
The only thing I haven't figure out yet is color season, but I feel like I'm dark autumn.
Oh I love that you two are coming together and putting your style systems in relation to each other! I really love to follow both of your content creations ❤
Left is edgier. Right is more angelic. Up is for others, down is for the self. Ellie’s style roots can be spread throughout.
I consider myself Ruby: stone, moon, fire.
I do lean moonstone, though: sun
i'm very much an amethyst. both of your channels together have helped my style evolve so much!
Me too! I like the dramatic and unexpected
I think the sentence presenting your essence to the world just changed forever how I will dress and display my physical appearance. I did not really care about my appearance truthfully or want to put real effort in. But that sentence may have just changed my life.
you two have the main style systems i love & follow so im so excited to watch this 💗💗💗
Yes - your style seems totally Right Down!
This is a great new tool to add to my toolbox! I’m a Sapphire. I’ll definitely combine it with my style roots (Flower, Mountain, Sun) to be intentional about my wardrobe!
Thanks to your iconic, easy way of explaining, I’m undoubtedly a moonstone! ❤❤❤
The collab we’ve been waiting for! I love how you are so open to sharing other style methods on your platform, in addition to both your own and the big ones like Kibbe. Fashion expression is so flexible & always evolving, so this is definitely the smart way to go. I genuinely feel that I have a better grasp on both your & Rita’s systems now. Someone on Reddit made collages showing examples of your Style Roots in Rita’s quadrants, and it finally helped me narrow down mine!
This is super cool! I'm definitely a Moonstone Key!
The crossover i didnt know i needed!! Awesome
i’m an amethyst and love your content; it’s definitely still useful! working through discovering my style roots right now :)
I’ve been waiting for this collab! I found Rita just a few weeks ago and it really boosted my self confidence to wear what I love and what feels like me.
completely unrelated, but I really like the editing of the last videos! Extremely interesting content, I've been following Rita for a while and your chat was definitely enlightening to follow ;)
I immediately identified with Leftdown/ruby. I lose my mind if I have to wear an outfit i feel uncomfortoable or not like myself in.
I've been following Rita for awhile, it's funny but just hearing the way she overviews the quadrants with you, I think I am ultimately a Sapphire. I thought I might've been Amethyst, but raw and elemental isn't it for me after all!
I was so excited to see that you two were going to make a video together ! Rita is such a warm, wonderful person, and her Style Key, along with your Style Roots, have been the most instrumental things in my style journey. Moreso than Kibbe & colour analysis for sure (probably bc I'm a L+U / Amethyst, so the more vibes/personality based "rules" are much more for me than the stricter systems). I'd be so interested to see if certain style roots pop up more in certain quadrants than others ! I can see Moon appearing much more on the Left, and Mountain & Mushroom on the Right. Stone for Down maybe
Yes! The storytelling!! 100% moonstone here :)
It definitely shows my green-amber aura personality as well:):)
Thanks for these! These are so helpful and fascinating !
Would love to see a style analysis on Ariana Grande! I think her style roots are flower, moon, and mountain.
i would like to see this too
She’s definitely a soft gamine!!!!
Sapphire here! Rita is an amazing person, my gentle guidance experience was amazing, and I love how this system can be applied in my everyday life. I also love the resources she provides to help people find their Style Key, especially now that her website has been updated.
This is so cool, another tool in my toolbox ❤
Thanks. I have watched her videos too and this is a good summary. I did find the music was too loud over your voices for what it is worth
This is a nice addition to the other systems - but also, I really feel a danty moonstone necklace would look great on you and would be a cute addition (and I feel in your colour season)!
Ive truly been waiting for this collab for so long im so happy !!!!
I'm glad to see this colab, you're both amazing. I like being cute and a bit fancy, but not necessarily follow trends. I have been told I have "grandma taste" for clothing, both in a good sense (because my grandma is quite stylish) and in a bad sense (in a "that's way too outdated the heck are you doing" way) 😂
I thought I was a moonstone, forget it, I'm a ruby 😅
I'm definitely sapphire and never thought it was a bad thing
Your natural hair colour looks great on you really. It suits you so well. I understand you like blonde in yourself because blonde is attractive in itself, and because it followed you into your introduction to adulthood. But you don't "need" it to remain in your mature style.
Am I the only person that does not understand Rita’s system at all? What does ‘elemental’ mean in terms of style? How would you identify being ‘connected to yourself physically and emotionally’ from a piece of clothing? I just can’t see any consistency in the information / style / wording within each quadrant, how the heck I would begin to identify which quadrant someone was in just from the clothing they’ve chosen, or how knowing which quadrant I fit into would help me with my own clothes. But I must be the only person who feels this way as I know Rita has lots of fans and followers!
You are definitely not the only one! I'm so glad I found your comment, because I feel the same way. I cannot connect with this system at all. I can't figure out any differences especially based on the example pictures provided.
I feel you but the logic behind it honestly benefited me in how I process putting together my daily outfits but also in how I think about design as a whole. I follow Rita but I have interpreted the system in my own way. I found it more difficult to conceptualise the left and right keywords.
I highly recommend her “Essence Keywords” video. She attaches examples on what it looks like. It’s the ones uploaded on November 2023.
I actually prefer her “Style Key Overview” and “Style Key Logic 101” videos more helpful than the essence keywords ones. Here she explains your internal landscape (e.g. how you want feel in your clothes, the vibe you want to communicate, your personality, your emotions, thoughts, comfort level, etc.) and external landscapes (e.g. personal context/circumstances, weather in your area, lifestyle needs, external inspirations, etc). She discusses that the intention and the direction of how you dress-ie. from internal to external, internal to internal, external to internal and external to external-defines your outfit decision-making process. We all use every single style logic but Rita says that having a preferred style logic can offer clarity and satisfaction for people who are overwhelmed and unhappy with how they approach their personal style.
A fun fact about Rita is that she’s also a sociologist and so she thinks about individual style in relation to society. What I like about the system is that it’s highly context-dependent. Fashion trends vary in different places and the trends cycle very quickly so what is considered “left” to me may as well be “right” to someone else. It really depends on the expectations on how to dress in your area. Her keywords are just a guide and she emphasises that they’re not rigid terms nor are the examples she uses. In fact, she encourages her viewers to create their own style keywords/dictionaries.
Honestly, it’s a less prescriptive typing system so I understand why it’s more difficult to place yourself in (I was used to Kibbe and PCA). But once you understand the concept and what it’s for, I think it’s intuitive and it makes the outfit-making process easier, quicker and more fun!
Yep. I emidietly embraced style roots and with color analysis and some basic knowledge of body proportions and how to dress to look as long and slim or small ass possible is all the info I need from now on! Style roots rules! 👑
I like this approach, thank you for sharing it
I have bags under my eyes too since I was a kid, so does my family, I think its pretty ❤ especially on u ❤
They are so pretty!
I do like to wear something in a way that's a contribution and represents what I bring to a situation or what I believe so I'm leaning top right
I'm so happy 2 of my favorite fashion and style analysts are together. I have been working on how to combine both of your systems. ❤
I think I am the Moonstone as well, that resonates with me! I am also soft classic and I am quite sure I belong to the summer family, but as soft summer :D
i'm so Sapphire! Up was easy to figure out but wasnt sure if i was left or right but after she explain I really think i'm right
yay I literally guessed right down for you 😂
I think your style roots system and this key really interact with each other for you. Your style system is quite inward looking, like a moonstone would be.
It had also just occurred to me that it's funny it took you a while to figure out that earth is one of your roots when you literally named your system after something that's found in the earth 😅
Love Rita!
I truthfully felt why does knowing your colour season and style matter but it prevents over consumption of clothing while empowering women to feel their best and present themselves in their appearance who they are.
Your bear sweater! ❤
You make fashion fun!!
Moonstone here!
Hi, just to let you know you linked your convo with Rita twice in the description box. The link you've labelled as "Rita's youtube channel" redirects to your patreon.
Ah thank you! Now fixed
Moonstone all the way 💫
this video helped me a lot ☺️✨
Well, this was confusing especially the left right dimension. The verbage used was a little contradictory especially on the right. I feel like it could be a lot simpler since it's supposed to be a simple system. Like
left - right : comfortable/freeform - refined/structured;
up - down: extravagant/showy - simple/moderate.
I mean I don't think of dreamy or whimsical and refined together but at the same time they could apply to both sides if I have correctly interpreted what they said about it.
(I took too long to write this comment. Shout out to my dusty dictionary because I'm forgetting words and how to spell them😞)
Im a Moonstone too😊❤
we are the crystal gems 🎶
I’m a moonstone too!
My challenge is to create synthesis between my Kibbe DC (Kitchener classic/natural/ethereal/ingenue) limitations and ruby style key. I might have to learn to sew as it is an intersection that is hard to shop for. Lol. Imagine my difficulty once I figure out my stlyle roots. 😂
I feel like the horizontal axis is a bit arbitrary. The anchors on either size aren't concrete enough
I’d really like to look into maybe being an Amethyst
Wowww❤
i am moonstone (right down).
I’m so confused. You keep saying comfortable, relaxed and in tune with yourself for left/down but then showing Kim Kardashian…who basically only wears high heels and super tight, uncomfortable clothing that’s meant for getting stares and attention. Nothing about how she dresses says “comfortable.” Everything about how she dresses seems way more up right…it’s over the top and for everyone else and for likes/views/drama.
I think it's because most of her everyday outfit are in a sportswear/homewear sort of style (sweaters, bodysuits, leggings etc...). She's not wearing blazers and linen shirts everyday 😅
She means that Kim is comfortable with her sexuality. The ruby key is where you dress the way you feel.
I think it's over the top because her body makes it so. But the lines are clean, simple, uncluttered. Maybe.
@@7773CLA It came off as much more of an attack than I meant it. I just don't think any of Kim's clothes have conveyed that being comfortable is the goal. There's nothing wrong with how she dresses, her look has just always had a specific aesthetic and goal that doesn't scream comfortable or relaxed. Billy Eilish also dresses in an over the top attention-getting way but her clothes are often baggy, loose and oversized--things that do make me think "comfortable." All celebrities are going to cultivate a brand and dress for some kind of attention, so it's probably hard to use any celebrity as an example of personal style that we can follow or relate to, especially because they also have stylists helping them.
You need to watch Rita’s videos! The 4 quadrants don’t line up along aesthetics, they line up along motivational (?kind of?) things. There are through-lines of aesthetic qualities that people share inside quadrants (or along each axis), but inside each quadrant you’ll have a really wide variety of aesthetics, tastes, and choices. And “being comfortable” is not the goal for Rubys/Left Down, it’s a goal that most people share. But what is “comfortable” might change in meaning, and how each key figures out what’s comfortable for them is different. It’s part of the “style logic”. Ruby’s are led by the physical sensation of the body, and how their own outfits make them feel emotionally and psychologically as well. Their style choices are best inspired by who they are, who they want to be, their state of mind, separate from the exterior context of where and when they are dressing. I dress NOTHING like Kim K, but we are both Ruby Key. One thing we still have in common is that we sometimes feel almost underdressed for an event? Like we can’t help dressing in a type of signature outfit (or almost a uniform) in a way that looks different from others around us, in a plain or neutral aesthetic that’s almost minimal. She favors stretchy garments that move, and hugging super tight silhouettes… the term “body con” to mean a very tight or clingy silhouette comes literally from “body-conscious”… her style decisions are first led by how the clothes feel on her body and make her feel physically and psychologically.
Also keep in mind that the 4 style keys are 4 quadrants on an axis, and because of that, a Ruby like Kim could he near the top or the right of the Ruby quadrant, and could be CLOSER to people technically in other keys like the Right Up (Sapphire) or Left Up (Amethyst) than she is from people in her own quadrant who are way way down or way way left…she may have more in common with those other people in some ways, but she’s in the spot she is (more down than up, more left than right) because of what motivations and logics will work best for her or that she employs at this time in her life to result in the look and feel she wants to create.
Yeahhh 🎉 Finally you too meet ❤
The most effective way to stop hating your wardrobe is to get rid of extra fat on the waistline. You really don’t hate your wardrobe, you hate the extra fat that makes you deformed, especially if it’s placed on your waistline.
I am left and down.
I'm utterly confused by this. I found it very rushed and not cohesive of an explanation of how I am supposed to navigate her system and yours.
Please put your marilyn monroe videos back up
This system doesn’t resonate with me as quickly as some others. But interesting nonetheless.
I found this video very confusing sorry
I don't get it either. I prefer the Style Roots.
This is too extra for me. Sorry.
The irony of making this unnecessary comment !! LMAO
I agree. I just can’t get my head around Rita’s system, and it feels like a lot of words that don’t say anything to me. The fact that the majority of people align with Sapphire or Moonstone suggest it’s not a particularly balanced ‘system’
But it does seem to resonate with others, so good for them I guess?!
This is an intriguing concept. However, I am having trouble connecting with it and applying it to myself. I just don't get it. The descriptors and pictures provided aren't helpful to figure out where I fit. All of the examples just look high fashion to me. This seems like an incomplete explanation. Elle-Jean, your style roots are somewhat helpful--a little more than this system. But this Style Key system is just incoherent.
both of your models are very informative and insanely helpful, im beyond thankful for the added value , you truly make life easier🩷