How I Became a Veterinary Neurologist
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- I have a pretty unique job and over the years I've had a lot of people ask me how I got to where I am. It's a long story but on today's episode I tell that story. I'll take you through some of the ups and downs in getting to vet school, internship, and residency as well as some words of encouragement if you're feeling stuck in school. I tell this story after a long day at work and you can tell I'm pretty beat. Hopefully you find it useful and maybe encouraging. As always I'd love to read your comments and any ideas on future videos are welcome. Stay well!
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"I think that says a lot about him as a person!!!" 🤣🤣🤣
“My brother Michael wasn’t really into animals and I thought that very strange and I think that says a lot about him as a person”
You guys remind me of me and my sister. I’m a CVT and she’s an RN. She’s not a huge animal person like me and I think it’s weird.
Thank you for helping our babies. My animals make life worth living.
I'm an aspiring Veterinarian from The Bahamas and I love the honesty in this video, It lets me know that no matter how long it takes I shouldn't give up on my dreams
absolutely! thanks for the watch.
Amazing dedication. I’m a boarded large animal surgeon and I can speak to the need to do 2 high-power internships and shed the extra blood, sweat and tears to get into and through specialty training. The extra miles are so worth it if your heart is in it. Keep up the good work, Dr. C! ~Sarah Khatibzadeh, DVM, MS, DACVS-Large Animal
Great to hear from you and thank you for that. Stay well!
I love the jabs at your brother lol.
he loves them too
I couldn’t imagine the dedication it takes to do what you do day in and day out. Keep up the great videos!
Thanks so much!
Hi Dr. Cellini! I just found your channel. I also have an interest in veterinary neurology! I'm 29 years old, and I plan on going back to school to begin my veterinary journey next fall. I have an associates degree in baking and pastry arts, so I will be starting from square one. It's odd and perfect that your video was recommended to me. It's been very insightful. Thanks for making this content. I can't wait to watch more!
The constant shade twoards your brother hahah. Im a fist year vet student and its always amazing to hear what kind of path people had getting in to vet med:)
I’ve been watching your videos for about a month now and you mentioned that your hometown is Kennesaw… I think it was fate bringing me here. I go to Kennesaw state and I’m a senior vet major so this is mind blowing to me! Hoping to get into vet school soon
Best of luck! KSU has come a long long way since the late 90’s!
Hello Dr. Cellini! I just recently found your channel, and I’m so glad that I did! It’s awesome to have a veterinarian UA-camr who regularly posts new and interesting content! I am currently (year-wise) a freshman in undergraduate, but I will be entering vet school in the summer of 2023! I am a student who got accepted to the Early Entry Program at Mississippi State’s College of Veterinary Medicine. I’m pretty sure I want to specialize, although I’m not sure in what yet. I know the path will be long and hard, but I’m ready to take it on!
that's great thanks for watching!
Of course! I enjoy them!
Its really reassuring to hear an account of someone who stepped away and was able to come back. After two neuro internships I had to take a break for family purposes, but really hope to try again in the future.
I got lucky.
Lol so this is why you were asking me for a picture from childhood? 💀
Hahahaha
Now when my bro asks for childhood photos, the answer will be - no! Lol
🤣🤣🤣 i really love the dynamics between the two of you.
I have two brothers, one is an MD and the other one is a Dentist; the quarrels between them are very similar as yours. It just makes the family gathering very fun; and they really love and support each other as well.
I found your channels just couples of days ago. You've got new loyal fan. ⚘
I also had a blip in my career which came good because a previous manager saw something in me and she gave me a chance. I took a job in prison pharmacy healthcare that basically went to shit for want of a better description where I walked out on this job after 5 weeks because I saw too many unethical practices happening. I was out of work for 5 months when I got a text message from my previous NHS trust requiring a bank member of staff for 2 days a week for 2 months so I applied. 5 years down the line I’m permanently employed because that manager I had 20 years ago as a student had faith in me and I’m so happy that this awful employment experience I had turned into something so positive. x
thank you for that. i'm glad you ended up finding a good path, like i did.
Great respect for this work
Much appreciated
This was great. I love the different journeys between you and your brother, human vs vet med. Can’t wait for a collab with you and your brother!
Thanks for the video! Currently a 3rd year vet student with a real interest in neurology and surgery and I am always looking for content like this in hopes that it will help me decide what direction I want my career to go 😂
Love the honesty... came from your brothers channel. I am a medical student but who doesn't love animals.
thanks man!
I’m glad I came across this video! Gave me real insight on the world of being a boarded specialist in vet med. I will be a first-year veterinary student (as of August 2022) at Tuskegee University College of Veterinary Medicine. I have interests in becoming a boarded specialist equine surgery and either sports and rehab or LA Cardiology.
awesome man welcome in. happy to help with anything i can. good luck in your journey.
You are amazing! I’m a vet student and I admire you!
Thanks so much! Best of luck in school!
Love the content, Dr. Cellini. Give it time and you'll get big in this community. By some miracle I made it into the 3 schools I applied to as a senior in undergrad and hope to attend the University of Minnesota College of Vet Med next fall! Don't feel obligated to pump out videos all the time, you're a busy guy. Stay healthy and don't overdo it :)
Thank you for those kind words!
I love veterinary medicine and wish I could get back into it. I only worked as a technician but would love to go back to school to be a veterinarian.
I’m sure many places would love to have you
Wow thank you so much for sharing your journey! I loved the transparency and the emphasis of how hard you worked. You have no idea how much this motivated me. I am pre-vet but similar to your beginnings, I work as a kennel assistant right now and I absolutely love it. Although I won’t be apply to vet school until next year, I already know I want to specialize!
Your channel couldn’t come at a better time! Love the shade thrown at your brother btw! 😂
Thank you so much!! Happy to help any way I can and best of luck with everything.
@3:00 I visited my sister one day and found her cat in the driveway just laying there meowing with a couple of other cats but when I approached he scooted away using only his front legs. We eventually caught him in next doors back garden and I assumed from the paralysis of his hind quarter he had been hit by a car in the road so took him straight to the vets. The Vet diagnosed a smashed pelvis and it was thought that he had unfortunately been hit by a car. He was operated upon by a veterinary specialist and after months of recuperating he was fine if a bit moody from being kept indoors! 6 years down the line he’s still stropping like a goodun!
amazing how they can heal from things that seem like total disaster.
great video Dr. Cellini! defintiely would love to see more videos on your finances and maybe how practicing as an er vet doc helped in paying off your student loans v. if you were to go another path. in a recent poll it seems most people want to see more finance content, so looking forward to it if you do!
That’s awesome!! All hard work has it’s good rewards! 🤩
Yes it does!
this video was incredible!! I appreciate your channel so much. I'm a current first year at the ohio state CVM with no clue what i wanna do and no clue how i'm surviving. but this video was inspiring and i can't wait for future content! please keep it up!
Thank you so much! Yeah that sounds like me my first year. Just keep grinding and try to focus on what matters (you and your learning). The whole process is an investment in yourself. Don't forget that.
Your story and struggles inspired me so much dr Cellini 😍 I did masters in veterinary clinical pathology but after 4 years I feel my real interest is oncology and transfusion medicine. Trying to start over my clinical training once again but it’s hard to catch up.
Struggling but hope Is there
clin path and oncology will go together like steak and a fine wine. you should be set up quite well to be a master oncologist by the end of all that. keep grinding.
@@DVMCellini yes dr Cellini.
I feel bad that I realised my interest too late in my 30s 😬
It is one tough road and you have to be committed.
Love this story- im on my way changing my career from a corporate work (market analyst) to horse therapy- more of massage, laser and osteopati- its the best work i could ever do= help horses-
would go to vet school it if would be only for horses and a bit easier to get in- as im 32 soon so i would have to take all exams again + 6-10 years school. So i choose to go to the therapy route instead- done 1 year of intensive training and in Summer i start another program for 2 - 2.5 years and after that i want to complete 1-2 years to full osteopati-
As many injuries are preventative :) a bit more difficult is that there wont be a clinic where to work but i need to find my clients myself and its 60 % tax + 25% vat where i live....
Love this! I always wanted to be a veterinarian and it’s soooo crazy because the same problem happened to my cat as well in March 2016, still remember it to this day as I gave birth to my daughter a week after. This gave me so much insight as to what happened to him 💔 (he died the NIGHT BEFORE he was supposed to go to the clinic).
very sorry for your loss i know that must have been difficult. my wife also had a similar experience as you....
love how much you dig your bro lol 😆 Thank you for sharing your story, shows kids today that determination is everything! your awesome!! My pup just got diagnosed with intestinal lymphangiectasia (protein-losing enteropathy) and i so wish it could have been a quicker answer, like your saying you can give! I admire vets so much!
Thank you! I wish your pup all the best.
I love your stories because I am an animal person. Can't say I am crazy about some of your music though. Your job is very rewarding. You are one tough person.
thank you! i think....
@@DVMCellini it is all good. You are persistent and obviously someone that gets you to work on their pet is very blessed. I changed careers midlife and had to go back for another degree. All good.
I grew up in Marietta around the same time!
I really appreciate these vids and your perspective on these things as a young person in vet med ❤
Nice to see you😁 Listening to your story was really interesting! Stories like that very motivate me. I'm only 18 y.o and im doing my second year of vet tech school. What next- neurosurgery! But I need to make a decision: human medicine or veterinary.. Bc of my hospital experiences im really into human medicine, but I still love animals so much! Or I can cope to work part time as veterinary technician since I became human neurosurgeon.. Neurology is the most interesting thing in the world!
And the problem in Poland is that we don't have specialities like neurology, dermatology etc.in veterinary.
Well, at 18 you definitely don't have to decide right now. Spend some time in both environments to get a better idea.
Thanks for sharing your story! I am a final year vet student and i knew that I wanna be a specialist pretty early on in my journey, hearing these stories really motivates me
Love this video! Thank you for sharing your journey!
Great video! I Love these accounts of people's road to success. And, of course, you are correct: each step in The Process is exponentially more difficult than the previous step. I was a professor of Spanish Language and Literature--until Bipolar Disorder brought me down. I graduated Summa Cum Laude (With Highest Honors) as an undergraduate--but then graduate school was a rude awakening: as I said, it was exponentially harder--and everyone was expected to earn the highest grades. But I got through it and earned my PhD. So, I identify with your struggles. Like you, I thanked those who helped me: I sent a letter to the graduate department and thanked everyone--I was told that that was a very welcome, if uncommon, gesture. I urge everyone to take 30-60 minutes and write such a letter or email to those who have played a substantial part in your Life--take the time to thank them for what they have done for you. You will both feel great about it!
Lovely sentiment thank you!
@@DVMCellini Thank you for being there! :)
really awesome video and inspiring path to where you are! i’m applying this cycle to vet schools and just hoping i make it across that first barrier of acceptance. hoping to follow a similar path to SA surgery. 🤞🏼 your story makes me excited for the future!
just keep grinding. that's all it is and all it ever will be.
Your a STAR ⭐️
Love how to you have been giving Dr. Cellini crap!!!
As someone who works in Critical Care at a speciality hospital I love your videos. I have always lived and loved animal health and well-being.
If you wanna come to
Nashville let me know! Our neuro group are going places and I’ve heard talks of adding another neurologist 😉
Ooooh man if I could convince my wife to live there! Say hi to Dr. Roach for me!
@@DVMCellini Nashville is great you could def convince her haha. Dr. Roach is the bomb and his wife is a bosssss 👏👏
It make sense now, I was wondering why you look almost similar to another youtuber I watch. Haha.
Awesome videos keep up the great work!!
Thank you! The name gives it away too ha
Love the banter between you and your brother, good videos here!!
Great video. Here in New Zealand we don't have to do an undergrad degree to get into vet school (we do however only have 1 school and its super competitive as they only take about 150 students). It's I think about 4 or 5 years. I did almost go to vet school myself - did all the pre reqs which included shadowing a vet for 10 days. The coolest thing I saw was a c-section on a cow.
Thanks for making these videos for us. You give a lot of information to us. I love watching your videos. I love rescuing pups. But with my health issues my pup will be my last pup I’ll have. And she is 8 years old
Thank you doing what you do!
hello friends I am glad you are putting your love of animals and your intelligence to good use.
Thank you!
I know this might be unethical but I am so curious about the money aspect of this field, did all these 17 years of hard work and struggle paid off well? I’m a 3rd year vet student and I’m all worried about the money issues that I am going to face in future. May I know an average or approximate of how much a Veterinary board certified neurologist may earn annually? Thank you doctor and your channel is amazing!
Yeah I know those videos are popular on youtube so I've been considering it. Trying to figure out how best to say it without saying it, if you know what I mean.
Omg!!! Thank you for this video!!!
Best of luck in your pursuite
thank you sir
Dr.Cellini, thank you for telling us your story! Truly inspiring!
Could you provide any specific advice for rotating interns in terms of interactions with specialists (both neurologists and non-neurologists)/getting references/how to stand out amongst internmates to make myself more competitive for a neuro residency?
1) be a "yes" person always and never a "no" person when *anyone* asks you to do *anything*. the worst kind of intern is the one who thinks they're above helping techs out.
2) understand you are there to help the clinic run better while learning as much as possible. both, not 1.
3) do not come in anywhere thinking because they do things different than how you learned it in school, its wrong. its not wrong its just different. don't be the intern trying to correct everyone.
4) just put your best effort in every day and don't worry about perceptions or if you're good enough. you may not be good enough frankly, but that's the whole point. you're there to learn and get better. its like working out. you show up every day and get 0.1% better and over time you'll reap the benefits of an exponential return. you just have to start somewhere and that's the internship. the fallacy is you thinking coming out of school you know a lot - you don't.
@@DVMCellini thank you for the response!
I can't stop laughing at the brotherly clownage
I'm a current second year student in vet school who is interested in residency and board certification in Anesthesia and Analgesia! I am really excited to hopefully get this process rolling one im out of here in the next 2 years! Could you make a video on the match process so other students might be able to get a better idea of how it works!? That would be amazing! Thanks for the inspiration Doc!
yeah i absolutely could. thanks for the idea!
It's really interesting to see the path in contrast to how it works in human medicine. Do you focus entirely on canine neurology or is it a mixed bag? I am pre-med currently but learning more about this is really shaking things up for me.
I think drcellini and I should do a "med school vs. vet school" video on that topic actually. Veterinary neurology is a mixed bag but by default you're gonna see 75% dogs, 24% cats, and 1% a mix of anything other than dog or cat. I've seen a fox, hawk, pig, sheep, and a rabbit before but those are pretty few and far between.
@@DVMCellini I am a vet assistant at a small animal practice. I am interested in your channel
OMG!!!!! I worked at GCVS for my undergrad!!!!
I started as a 14 year old swimming aide….Lifeguard and now a Marine Biologist. I feel you when you say how difficult it was. Even for me as a female in a male dominated field.
My grades were beyond great 4.2, and at the time they needed men and ethnic diversity. To make a long story short, my first name is a boys name and my last name is Hispanic sounding, but I’m Irish. When I showed up they went nuts….took me , and the rest is history. I still get people thinking I’m Hispanic until they see the freckles and red hair. So I guess my break was genetics, and crazy parents who names me weird.
P.S. I have 6 brothers, think they could have come up with a better name Lee?
I am so sorry about Dr. Best’s passing. I hope he knew you became a wonderful neuro vet. Do animals get anything like ALS or MS?
🙏
Degenerative myelopathy shares some pathological changes to ALS.
I’m so excited I found this channel.
I’m a 3rd year vet student and I’m interested in pursuing neurology.
In the video, you mentioned you matched for a specialty internship in neurology. Did you only rank specialty internships that year? Or did you also rank residencies?
Thank you for sharing both your successes and your setbacks. From day one of vet school, I’ve put pressure on myself to get the right grades and get the right class rank, take the right electives, do the right externships, impress the right people- as though there is a specific formula for getting a neuro residency, and a single misstep will forever ruin my chances. So I appreciate you telling your story, and I think it’s important for us to hear that there isn’t just one path to residency.
(I actually have a lot more questions I would love to ask you, but I will refrain from taking up anymore comment space.)
Thank you for making these videos. I’m excited to see more of your content.
I ranked everything I could but focused on internships since I kinda knew I wasn’t a great residency candidate yet. Also it’s common for people to spend a couple years interning nowadays, before they can get a res. It’s like you have to wait in line or something.
I laughed so hard when you were talking about all the random classes in vet school. I took equine therio and avian medicine electives. I am a small animal GP. Why did I do this? Lol.
Equine therio was brutal. I wanted out asap.
I almost never like videos, but this one deserves a shit ton of likes. :D
I'm actually finishing up vet school in Serbia and might come over there, so right now I'm kind of getting mentally prepared for the BSCE...
I was wondering, what is considered a competitive GPA over there? Our GPA's are a little different over here, they go from a 6.0 to a 10.0, so I'm curious as to what would be considered competitive for residencies. :)
We’re 0 to 4 last I checked. 3.5 to 4.0 will get you basically whatever you want. 3.0 to 3.5 will still get you where you want to go just not like the top tier programs for internship/residency. Below 3 and you’re gonna have to scramble and find private practices or just have 1 or more people strongly vouch for you.
I had a cat who died from saddle thrombosis. It's awful.
Vet student in Pakistan. It is really inspiring and also has the same grades as u 😄 .Right now little confused where should i go .
Lmao “doesn’t matter “
Proud of you brother 🧑😊
Hi! Happy New Year! I’m about to graduate in April from vet school and hopefully get an internship. I know you said it gets harder each year. Other than the drive to completion, what kept you going? Did you just look for the small wins and small moments of joy to keep you going and not beat down or was there something in particular?
I already have anxiety and I’m a little concerned that it may be my biggest stumbling block because my mind plays my mistakes on repeat. So, on top of going through difficult years, I fear that my mind might make it even worse than it already is.
Honestly I'm not sure what kept me going. I've done some pretty grueling backpacking and mountain climbing and its kind of similar. At some point you're just committed to finishing even though it sucks. Hard to explain. Also if I quit before finishing I would have basically nothing to show for it and would have wasted X number of years of my life. So there's that :)
I was the same way with my anxiety and making mistakes. Looking back I laugh. You just have to realize you're going to make mistakes its really just how you deal with it more than preventing them.
@@DVMCellini Oh ok, thank you so much for sharing your perspective with me!! That’s very true about just being dedicated to finish. I just pray that it’ll be more positive than negative on the day by day or month to month aspect lol.
That’s good to hear that you’re able to look back and laugh. That gives me hope 😊
Hi Dr. Cellini I just want to say thank you for being so open about your experiences as this is the type of information is so valuable to pre-vet students such as myself. I want to pursue becoming a specialist and going into academia mainly to do research but also mentor students. So out of curiosity how important is it where you do your residency if you are considering going into academia/teaching? Are there veterinarians that transition from private practice to teaching at a veterinary school or is the more common place thing to do is try to get into a residency at a teaching hospital?
loved the video, Dr. Cellini! thank you for posting :) breed are your dogs? they are adorable!!!
Bernie is a a mutt terrier mix and Alex is a border terrier.
Thank you so much for the video!! Starting vet school in the fall and thinking about specializing but just not sure what i'm into yet, hearing your journey helped take some pressure off as you showed that you don't have to have perfect grades to specialize or have a smooth journey directly from school to internship to residency. I am curious though - do you find a gender disparity present in most specialty? I just don't know how I can work as much as you did and still manage to have time for pregnancy/kids in between (I am a woman) and it honestly sort of feels like I'll have to give up one thing (specialty or having my own family). Do you know many women colleagues who were able to do both successfully? I have heard residencies are biased towards picking men because of this as well.
Pretty much from vet school on I've worked with like 70-80% women. Most of those are able to make it work (including my wife). It's tough don't get me wrong, and it also affects the type of specialty you'll want to pursue (or whether or not you'll pursue one). But the VAST majority of vets I work with are women.
from a financial point of view. Do you recommend taking a specialty?
From a financial point of view, it’s basically the only way to make this career make sense short of owning a practice. This is assuming you have loans.
Hello Dr Celli, your video is awesome. Pls I'm a young vet graduate from Nigeria and I want to go into Neurosurgery as my specialty. And Currently I'm looking for Msc opportunity in Neurosurgery (Masters) in the US. How can I go about it and how can you be of help?? (very important)
Do you think speciality vets or general practice vets deal more with the challenge of clients not being able to afford recommended care? I noticed while shadowing a neurologist that a lot of clients that decided to bring their pets in for specialized care came willing to pay whatever was necessary to get their pet treated. Since my experience was obviously a smaller sample size compared to your years of experience, I am curious what your perspective is.
Oh GP for sure.
Question: what could be causing my female dog to hump her stuff animal?!?! I’m very curious
Great video! I’m currently a first year vet student really interested in neurology; would you recommend reaching out to neurologists to shadow while on semester breaks?
Yes, definitely. We're all so desperate for help I'm sure you wouldn't have any trouble finding a job. Spending time with a neuro service and getting "in" is the best way to connect and help you along the path. Best of luck in school!
😂u like throwing out digs at your brother??? I think it was neat as u started as a teenager. Sorry about Trigger and your mentor. It's good how u explained your journey. 100 hrs a week and only 28000 omg how did u survive? 😳that matching thing is kinda crazy.Amazing u became a neurologist.Regardless of hard it was but look at u now? 👏👏Glad u thank every one that was nice
Looooove throwing the shade.
I know it’s not about the money.... however how does compensation compare to human neurosurg
I mean it’s nowhere near😂
Can we get a vid of an actual surgery to full appreciate the complexity of the job, doc.
that is gonna be difficult but i definitely am looking into it. we don't have giant operating microscopes with audio/video in 4k like they do in human med. i may have to use a gopro or something.
First
Thank you!
thanks for watching
What's your salary
$7,000,000 a year
@@DVMCellini where and which hospital you did work as a veterinary neuro surgeon
@@DVMCelliniThat not bad. Although probably less than a human neurologist or neurosurgeon. I am impressed how a veterinary neurologist does BOTH medicine and surgery. And the fact that veterinarians can do a graduate degree with their residencies if they want to ( at least in veterinary teaching hospitals.
I think the real reason why veterinary neurology and neurosurgery aren't separate is it would be more complicated and expensive. Trying to find a Neurologist then trying to find a neurosurgeon for their pet. Besides I think the animals neurophysiologies are MORE complex and MORE VARIED( so many animals to treat) .