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Universal Audio APOLLO Interfaces 2024- Still Unchanged Mostly!
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- A lot of this still holds true in 2024, almost 10 years after I made this video. That is good, but also bad.
Sound check, test, my opinion, comparison, and critical thoughts before deciding.
For those who wonder - so what's actually included with the Twin as far as plug-ins goes?
It still just includes the "Realtime Analog Classics Bundle" - and what that is can be found here: www.uaudio.com/...
Tech details from the UA website can be found here: www.uaudio.com/...
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I'd saved a short collection of interesting videos to watch at random, specifically while tripping on psychedelics. This video will be added to that playlist.
lmao
I think people are missing the point entirely on this product and I think it's a generational thing. The preamps in this unit are unison... which mean the plugins (I think 5 of them) behave like the hardware. This eliminates the need to buy super expensive outboard gear. Sorry, but for hip hop vocals, I may go from u87 or the 103 to neve pre amp then choose between la-2a or 1176.... this is a classic signal chain. While the unit does not come with a neve, you still get la-610b. I use it like I would use an along board to track and use daw to simply print. So when I register my unit I received a huge discount on my first purchase, which helped. With UAD, Waves, slate digital, fab and a few others; one should be able to do wonders. I am grateful uad came into the digital world, now everything feels right! Console 2.0 is like my love sound board and unison and inserts in console are like my outboard racks.... thanks UA....
dont watch videos that stat with dont watch!
Christopher Simmons why - because u only watch those who say "do buy?". u need to read the title completely and work your old eyes, lol. good review and freedom of speech rules! dont be a troll!
Alex Gregory But thanks for the positive comments ;-) Welcome to the UAD family from the rest of us long time user folks!
+Christopher Simmons word!
Christopher Simmons not sure whether to buy or not after watching it! Love the features, not too happy about the "payment plan" and update cycle of the hardware he mentioned - but that's a positive at the same time - so I might go in for the grab! The guitar amps alone, holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!
whichoneisbetter well... you get a bunch of things for "free" with the hardware, and then the plugins are well priced if you need them, and then they have promos, like get any 5 for $399, plus a $50 owner coupon; so twice a year you can get the one thing you really want, along with some other stuff to play with, and well priced vs paying $99 for a third party plugin alone. And the versions of stuff like the EMT, reel to reel tape, Lexicon, channel strip, Moog filter, etc. are amazing. Using UAD2 since it came out, have both PCI-quad and Apollo/FW800. Amazing. Love the gain, was able to sell some outboard gear and plugin my vintage synths direct ... zero buyers remorse. I've turned several people onto UAD2 after leaving waves. So it's tied to hardware, BFD. That means you have the benefits of outboard CPU power and lower latency and don't need to freak out every time an OS update. Universal Audio has also been around longer than any PC company if you want to go into staying power.
I didn't know Christoph Waltz was into audio
Really love this interface! I've had mine for more than a year now and it has been rock solid and perfect. I've come from a couple of Apogee interfaces from a year and half ago (Quartet - random background noise and Duet - unit went microphonic) that both went south on my within six months of ownership. What does Apogee include with your interface for plugins? Yup...that is what I thought. This unit gives me some nice options that allow it to take some of the CPU load off of the computer and thus freeing up for me to use a few more plugin as needed on tracks. In the end, I think the price they are charging for plugins is a bit high but there is a lot of quality there. One must take into account the time it takes them to create these. Still, I usually just wait for a sale. My DAW has almost everything I need in there and what I have done is learned to use what I have fully before buying anything. My only concern is if thunderbolt will still be around in a couple of years now with them using USB-C in the new macbook.
+PBGas34 Duet come with waves Silver bundle, Quartet comes with Waves Gold bundle
how would u say the pre amps compare to the motu pre amps for vocals is there a huge noticeable difference?
not huge - but a bit! If you;re doing good work, don't worry! The new Motu 's have caught up! by the way.
massivebeatzz I'm still using a motu 828 I purchased back in 2008 so I'm sure there's a noticeable difference compared to this but either way i ordered my Apollo twin can't wait to get it
I originally ordered an Apollo Twin Solo but saw some videos and immediately canceled my order before it left the warehouse so I could get the duo. One instance of the 610-B uses up like 37% of DSP on the Solo!
Folks if ur going to be mixing please do yourself a favor and get the duo unless you enjoy printing or you only plan to track and no mixing. But then again the 610-B is very hungry and so is the rest of the new generation of plugins from UAD. The classic plugins are less hungry though. Either way you can still get by. At the end of the day it is still a ground breaking piece of gear no matter which one you buy.
thanks for the feedback John (&watching). Yes my findings match that as well. Quality reverbs, 610's etc are CPU hungry - so one shouldn't expect too much when tracking with the SOLO. That said, it' s possible to run a 610, a reverb and / or a guitar amp for tracking - so that's mainly my main need - track without latency - then for all the mixing I use professional plug-ins Waves, Native Instruments etc. Most quad core macs pack about 50 times the CPU power of an Apollo, so I can run multiple instances of pretty much the same stuff there - more than I could possibly use. For those who want to go all out on the Apollo stuff though, maybe even a 4 Core rackmount version would be best. And lots of money for all the plugins plus the upgraded hardware. It's something to consider before entering that eco-system.As for Solo vs Duo units: The big deal is really getting a good tone when tracking and a great mix for monitoring - it makes the workflow seemless! The Apollo does just that!
massivebeatzz that is so awesome thanks for the feedback! sounds like you got a real good hybrid system going over there! i have waves plugs too but my update plan is expired and i cant update to the new 64 bit aax without dropping at least $350. Im on pt11 and in order to use my waves plugs i will have to run pt10 again. i think i will be doing alot of mixing with the uad stuff and the NI stuff too. sounds like you and i have a similar arsenal ;-)
John Jones if u have solo try to group tracks like vocals or drums thats give u more space for Cpu .
Thanks Akreem! I ordered the duo. But i will still probably use that advice. Thanks!
was unsure which one to buy.
thanks for telling, helped me a lot.
I'm from Brazil and and I am grateful for your opinion.
Thank you.
about how many plugins can you run at once without straining it. EQs, Comps, etc. mine actually comes in tomorrow and i'm a bit excited lol
great question Official!... I tried a few to see how much CPU power each eats up: with 0 plugins I measure DSP1 (9.8%), DSP (4.5%) or 8 and 6%, depending on when I look. Some plug-ins eat about 25% of one DSP, such as Lexicon 224, some 10 to 15%, such as the 610B preamp or the Ampeg ATR-102 tape machine. EQ's such as the Helios 69 or the MIllenia NSEQ-2, each hit one of the DPS's with 10%. Apollo usually balances this out so teh DPS's fill up somewhat equally. One of the Softtube guitar amps weighs in at 20%. So doing the math (and it worked out surprisingly like that in real world) - two guitar amps, a reverb, a 610B preamp and perhaps an EQ would max out the SOLO version. The DUO can handle twice as much, so think you can add 4 EQ's, a tape machine, and maybe a couple of delay units. That's quite a lot - but don't expect it to be like 80 plugins like a MacBook Pro. It' s more about getting a quick, latency free result out of the box. I hope this helps, and great to hear you are excited. You should be!
massivebeatzz yeah i think im gonna be printing a lot. I also have a lot of native plugins but dont think i'll use them as much. I have an avalon 737 and will be getting a distressor(to run drums through) to use with the Twin Duo. I will just be using EQ, Delay, and extra Comp to tighten stuff up. I think a video of a session with the max amount of plugins(w/o reverb and amps) would be good. A lot of people want to see something like that.
Jason Cox Yeah i ended up getting it 2 weeks ago. Ive already put it thru it's paces. Got it hooked up to my avalon 737. good to go ;-)
OfficialSwishaTV
nice!
It's not true that you only have two channels of digital input. It supports 8 channels via ADAT. So a total of 10 channels is possible to get at once.
It does not however have any digital outputs.
Excellent review otherwise! Thanks!
thank you - you're absolutely right! Specs DO say 8x Adat in is possible. Since my digital connection was optical, but stereo - I jumped to an early conclusion as 8x ins weren't visible in the Mixer GUI (makes sense). Thanks, I will correct this.
fixed it at 1:40mn, shoutout 2 u!
Yea but you forgot one detail you can expand this with that ADAT connection. So over all a great unit of the budget is within the user
oh, not sure if I mentioned that - thanks for reminding. So what Kzon refers to is you can add another 8 of inputs via (Adat - and optical cable) or another set of stereo via regular SPDIF digital. SO if you need more inputs, no need to buy an ever bigger Apollo just get something as basic as teh Focusrite Scarlett OctoPre 8-channel Microphone Preamp and you instantly get 8 more mic pre-amps.
Thanks for the great review!.. I have a motu ultralite as well. Im wondering (specifically to your set up) how you use these together? Do you use both interfaces at the same time for recording and mixing, or do you use them in separate instances? Im wondering if there is some way to harness the power of both together? The motu is either usb or firewire , while the apollo is thunderbolt. Is there some way or configuration to utilize both? I figure that as you have both and have had them for sometime time you could get creative with them. Thanks.
Great video and walkthrough!
I went out and got The Apollo Twin Solo shortly after watching it. In hindsight I kinda wished I'd gotten the Duo since it avoids potential headaches on which tracks to mix down first in order to free up DSP for other tracks - but on the other hand it forces you to be more steadfast about your mixing decisions, which can be a good thing I suppose.
By the way: which software do you use for screen capture and voice overdub?
Cheers from Denmark
glad you enjoyed it and it helped!... You should be ok. All mixing can be done in the computer anyways - you can pull a lot more plug-ins than any Apollo interface, as long as it's a fairly recent Mac. The Apollo is great for real time, latency free plug-ins during recording for monitoring.
How would you compare this to the Waves Mercury Bundle? I wish Waves had a controller like this!
Chase McWilliams great question. Chase! Waves is excellent, UA is excellent. One would have to take several instruments and run them through the original hardware box, then through Waves, then through UA to compare. API EQ for example!.... In either case you'll run out of effects with UA soon, because 1, 2 or even 4 DSPS) are far less than what a modern quadcore Intel computer can, and needs to crunch for a mix. I'd say UA for tracking, and perhaps to assist with reverbs or buss effects - but Waves for the actual mix. The amount of Waves effects is insane - some of them are quite old - but there are so many good ones in there! That's what they do. UA started as a hardware company and then started doing software to stay in the market. I would not say that gives WAVES automatically the edge - but just know that that's what WAVES does - they focus 100% on software plug-ins and hw emulations. They better be good at it! My reality is a combination of everything. I probably could live without an Apollo Twin, but without Waves at all might be difficult. I don't think it's a choice you'd really have to make technologically as they play well together. Just my opinion!
+massivebeatzz thanks for that answer it would be so cool if Waves made an interface like the UA Apollo Twin! UA can have my money this product eliminates the need for an analog board many people are mixing in the box these days. I'd love to use an SSL Console though.
Please please get yourself some Mogami gold cables for your beautiful setup! You have the best interface, monitors, and a great EV mic, they deserve gold cables to get the cleanest tone possible right now you're losing some top end from your sound thanks to the cheap live wire cables. Just a friendly tip :)
***** indeed, indeed!!
Hello ! Pretty helpful video .
I need 3 inputs ,1 to play a Guitar , the other for the keys , and the last one for a MIcrophone ,
I Play with ableton live, recording funky loops , something similar to FKJ`s live work .
Questions :
1) do you think this interface is suitable for that kind of work live ?
2) Where can I find the optical inputs that I can add to the interface ?
greetings
The thing everyone needs to know is that if the USB 3.0 is not initially part of your motherboard, THIS WILL NOT WORK on your system. I have a quad core Dell i5 with a Dell card i installed and no one from UA or the supplier could make it work. Too bad... it is awesome.
ehhhh... plugin amps always sound really weird to me. Distortion only exists because guys wanted to turn the amps up.
lol. interesting point of view - not a bad one!
You're judging the sound from a UA-cam video? Hmmm...
uhhh... no. From playing lots of plugin amps. They all sound weird... and yes so does this youtube video. Also it's all digital, so a plugin shouldn't sound too different on my monitors or his monitors with a little quality difference because of the youtube compression which isn't much different because he uploaded this in 1080.
Are you using good cabinet sims (impulse response loaders) after the amp plugin? You can A/B my Virtual Amps against my Marshalls with 57's in front of them, and from the control room in my studio, you will not know the difference.
probably better in 2017... I was using sims in like 2013.
Thanks for the nice review! I saw you used the Apollo and the plugins in maschine. Have you tested it for a little while? How does the plugins perform in maschine standalone?
+AK-Filmproduktion & Sounddesign hi, the plugins work within Maschine just fine, as long as you have Apollo Hardware running. Youc an also address all the ins & outs during recording, so a pretty powerful situation! However, I don't think there's a need for them - NI Maschine's plug-ins are stellar - so don't feel you have to hold back without Apollo, if you have Maschine.
+massivebeatzz thanks for the quick answer. Yes the Maschine Plugins like transient master, Saturation or Supercharger and all the other ones do an awesome job and they are very good tools to make it sound great.
I think Its definitely more about how you use plugins and not which brand they are. However UAD also offers the Unison technology which I'm very interrested in. All of my decisions in terms of buying an interface were mostly how many inputs and outputs do I get for my money. But honestly I never used the 16 Ins and outs of my old Emu 1616m nor I use the 6 ins and outs of my focusrite 6i6. So better have 2 awesome sounding inputs with the possibility to record with great analogue emulation than having more inputs with good sounding pres which I never really use.
And even with the Apollo Twin you can expand via toslink to up to 8 Inputs which don't have unison but can be recorded.
Thanks for the video. I preordered the USB version of the Apollo and give it a try.
Sweet! Yea just got one but you said it could add only 2, is that different then the 8? Not sure how that works. I have an 003 and think it has an optical out, that would give me 4 more preamps on that, then 4 line inputs i could run other preamps through.
laphtoabeat if it is ADAT you have 8, if you go TOSLINK (Dual channel optical then it is 1 x Stereo). The cables look the same , it depends what device is sending the audio.
*Dummy here* So UAD is making it sound like I HAVE to use their plugins? I work on Pro Tools with SSL Plugins, is the Apollo Twin compatible with them on Pro Tools? It's simply an interface/pre-amp? As long as my hardware allows I should be able to run anything through it right?
Ha it was the first thing I noticed besides the Maschine and Apollo...one quick question...if you are using the Belkin which has 2 TB ports, 1TB port is for the Apollo and 1 is from the Belkin to your Mac? So how is your external monitor connected? My situation is, non retina Mac with 1 thunderbolt port, Apollo Twin duo and external monitor with HDMI to thunderbolt connection. Get what I'm saying?
sorry I didn't see this question til now. well, typically you would run the Apollo into Belkin and Belkin into the mac. The display would be from HDMI out to the monitor. A non retina mac, however, only has one TB port (acting as Mini Display port as far as your monitor is concerned). Therefore, you would have to choose Apollo OR External monitor and could not have 2 at the same time with Belkin. The Belkin does have a Firewire connection, so you could run the bigger Apollos, such as the Quad or regular model - which are Firewire standards. I believe that Apollo TWIN not having 2 x TB connections to allow for daisy chaining (or another connection such as USB/FW on top) is a big oversight at that price point! That's saving money at the WRONG places! And so is Belkin's (and Caldigit's) docks: why only one TB port? That makes it a dead end for many users - not a perfect solution. I think i need to design a musician friendly dock and put it into production. Who's on board, lol?
you need your tuner before anything else in your signal path or you end up with the harmonics from other plugins being received by the tuner and giving false or innacurate readings
+Alex Mills very true! I hope it was! - at least when actually tuning i bypass everything else!
Christoph Waltz?
The key info in this video is at 11:33 in. All the cool plug ins throughout the first 10 minutes of the video cost extra, not included.
yes , i thought they were too. they dont say they are, but they dont warn you either... so i assumed when i got it it is included!..it should be:)... so the revelation at ...i guess 11:33 wasn't a planned one...lol. thanks for watching.
On the website and when you buy it they DO say what is included. Please don't mislead folks.
Robert A. Ober
Robert Ober you're on crack bro or do u work for UA,? judging by your arrogant comments all over!...it might be somewhere on the website - but it' snot made clear when you buy it or on the package!!!...so that's why everybody got confused - there's no denying that as of now!
Macreviewz
It is on the info printed on the bottom of the box and made clear both at the UAD website and major online retailers.
I do not work for anyone but myself.
Robert A. Ober
Hello, I am buying a Twin Apoolo, and as the interface uses the output Thunder Bolt, I wonder if I can connect my Mac to the HDMI TV by USB as the output which I used for this purpose strat being used by UAD.
Another question is I'm thinking about getting the Solo would be an unfeasible choice?
hi Luiz, yes that could be done. If your Mac is 2012 it has USB 3.0 , and you won't slow down your USB controller for other tasks (HD's, mice etc). A more elegant solution I would suggest is to take a look at the Caldigit Thunderbolt Station. It's a Dock, and adds a HDMI out port, three powered USB 3.0 ports, audio in
and out jacks, and a Gigabit Ethernet port to your
computer using a single Thunderbolt cable. It has 2 TB connections, so one can connect to the computer, the other can continue on (chain) to Apollo.It also reduces your cable connections and makes your MacBook Pro and especially any RETINA Macbook Pro easy accessible.As for the other question - not at all ! If you do not need a whole lot of effects going on DURING tracking, there's no need for the TWIN - especially if you have a powerful computer when it comes to mixing, and are not SET on running UA branded plugins (they're great, and would not run without hardware). Any modern Quad Core Mac or PC can run multiple times the amount of plug-ins any Apollo TWIN or even QUAD can several times over, so just having the SOLO would not hurt you. It's limited - but workable.
massivebeatzz Thanks for the help I will look here in Brazil the CalDigit Thunderbolt Station to buy. My macbook is a 2013 i7 think it will run smoothly. I plan on buying the same as SOLO spare some money to invest in plugins.
If you are planning to buy a Universal Audio Interface, hit me up right here BEFORE you register it. I can refer you as a friend and we can BOTH pick a free UA Plugin!
I've been thinking about Apollo Twin solo for a long time and still I'm not sure of what software is included.
That's a lame thing for them not being clear. Now there's a promotion, they give u Solo 610 for free...
WASNT IT FOR FREE AT DAY ONE? WTF?
Andrea aiazzi my point exactly! UA does not make that clear - you can find it - but it shouldn't be a research mission!. Officially it is now called the Realtime Analog Classics Bundle and it is included for free. And yes it does contain the 610 preamp emulation. Here's the exact page: www.uaudio.com/uad-plug-ins/realtime-analog-classics-bundle.html
They generally have great sales and their bundles are great. For the price you need to understand what goes into making these plugins. They are essentially replicating the characteristics of most of the actual signal paths of the original hardware. Yes, the plugins are pricey, but compared to getting the actual hardware it is just a small pittance.
I've an Apollo, and I've put plugs on each channel w/o using sends on a 8 track project and didn't even put a dent in the DSP processing. Now mind you I've got 4 cores doing the processing.
Another thing you didn't touch on, if you are traveling and don't feel like taking it with you, you can still use the plugins native. Their processing is going to occur on your CPU as opposed to your Apollo.
hey thanks for commenting and watching!. Indeed a lot goes into these plug-ins, but they actually cost a lot more than the hardware if you geek out on a lot of bundles. Also they DO NOT work as stand alone plugs with no Apollo connected. All the processing is done in hardware and they don't switch over. That's a limitation in my book. But when you travel, the opposite is true - you can use the Apollo stand alone without computer as a mixer. SOUND ON SOUND magazine says the following about that: " Subsequently, if the Apollo is powered up but not
connected to a Mac, the same routing and mixing stays in place and the
unit can be used as a stand-alone mixer. "
massivebeatzz
hey thanks for commenting and watching!. Indeed a lot goes into these plug-ins, but they actually cost a lot more than the hardware if you geek out on a lot of bundles
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Man you need a new calculator. Compare the cost of any individual plugin to it's hardware counterpoint and you will see how wrong you are. And when in a bundle you save more.
Robert A. Ober
Robert Ober
my calculator is fine, and I engineered on many hardware units myself to know the difference. the point made here is more specific: that you can get good hardware tools , a small collection thereof mind you, either used or from a different manufacturer (so not the UA hardware counterpart) that won't break the bank either. 200, 300 and 400 for a plug-in is unreasonable compared to what you can get on ebay these days in hardware. it'll still cost you more, of course - but with premium prices for plug-ins and falling prices on hardware - any hardware - that difference is shrinking rapidly.
Again, it's a premium new unit from a trusted vendor that gives above average after sale support.. It runs highly rated plugins. Look at the prices of the repacked Apogee's selling now under the Avid name. Even more money.
You know the old adage, You get what you pay for. There are Chevrolets that I like but they certainly are not built like a Mercedes.
BTW, I work for nobody but myself. I am a self employed IT Consultant who sometimes shoots and edits video.
Take it EZ,
Robert A. Ober
PS: Other high end plugins are expensive as well such as the Avid Pro ones and Fabfilter's..
The optical input is definitely 8 channel on this interface.
soundguy005 yes it does, and that has been corrected as soon as te video was posted back then.
I dont own this but am looking into buying it. You say in your video that the digital inputs are only 2 for adat, when everywhere else says it is 8 for adat but only 2 for SPDIF, though you use the opticalminput for both
if you replay that section of the video it actually tells you on the screen, when the ADATs show up, and when the 2 x SPDIF show up;). it does have ADAT.
Awesome choice! Still trying to figure out how to record 3 tracks at once on the twin.. I can figure out a recording 2 however it doesn't allow me to Route another input for a 3rd. What are your thoughts?
ok so with this Twin (and any other Twins except for the Twin X) - you have 2 simultaneous channels, 1 & 2 (which can be guitar inputs, lines, or mic). 2 is the max PLUS ...and here it comes...Digital inputs..Example a Stereo signal from any digital player, mic preamp etc. or better - ADAT, which gives you another 8 inputs. ..Your 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th etc device would need to be connected to that external device. Example would be an 8x preamp with 8 microphones connected with digital out, going straight into Apollo. But it could also be say a Line 6 guitar FX board , that has a digital stereo output going into the Apollo. In short you only have 2 AD converters built in.
@@massivebeatzz excellent!! Answered all of my questions!! Will make the move and start using adat!!
Hi man...I can't really get a real gadget to play around before I buy this tiny stuff. Actually I am an user of RME Babyface and UA Twin 710 preamp (for tracking vocal/bass DI). I'm wondering if I can get a slightly upgrade in AD/DA. RME Babyface did the thing just right to me when pluggin with my UERM but plugins offered by UA are so attractive as well as the price range. If so I definitely will get one and sell my old interface. Thanks and looking forward to seeing some comment on it.
bpanmusic001 hey - thanks for chiming in, and you're welcome. I think you make a good point! Let us know how it goes - and if you think there is a noticeable sound quality difference between your RME Babyface and UA Apollo Twin. I agree, that having more flexible use of the DSP power is one of the main attraction points.
Delay and latency are two different things. Its confusing when you keep referring to latency as delay while playing a guitar with delay effect on it.
+audiojake27 correct! there is a delay for the round trip of the signal - and the correct word we're all using is latency! what can I say - I work without script !;)
Lol, Cue Mix is a pain in the ass. I use every plug in and have been using plugs and DAW for over 20 years (excluding UA).... I am not a computer genius or anything but I can figure things out pretty quick.....however Cue Mix even after years of use is still complicated after an update changes the configuration (or a slight volume change causes it to jump to max volume and blow you out of your seat!)....It's not a well designed program...but it does the trick for just recording dry with zero latency, then I add FX later....I have always been interested in UA quality they look and sound great.
B Dub well, I wouldn't put it that way - but yes - counterintuitive is definitely what comes to mind! Me too, I always have to think before doing anything, trying to remind myself. I'm definitely with you on that!.... I'mgoing to be specific with my feedback in case MOTU is listening. It does the trick, indeed - and there are not too many options out there with good DSP implementation. One of the lueMix imitations is EQ, compression and reverb "ONLY" - despite being good ones. That's great for tracking, but where UA shines is , is the ability to add guitar amp emulations, delays, modulations etc...in other words "creative" effects that may be needed to track something properly or to write a song, not just to "feed reverb" to a demanding vocalist - as they call it. And Cue Mix has not evolved or improved in that regard. DSP power is cheap, they just need to do it right! Not asking for fancy emulations or a plug-in platform, but something to work with, and replace later with a better sound, as long as I can track dry! A guitar and bass amp is a must!Also CueMIx, at least on my Ultralite MKIII Hybrid running the latest MacBook Pro and Mac OS crashes or freezes often. Lots of opportunity to improve!
massivebeatzz Oh don't get me wrong, I still use a MOTU 828 mk3 on my main computer and it does the trick....Cue Mix is just not user friendly but it has improved lately....I never even tried out the EQ, compression, or reverb because I always record dry....maybe I should try them out sometime!
Ummmm the optical in would allow you to use up to 8 channels light pipe
Mitch Salva that's correct! see my old annotation on the video after I posted it.
Might want an update then, just listened again and you said it only adds 2 tracks with adat. Idk, cool video!
laphtoabeat it's been updated a long time ago. Check the annotation at 1:40 ;)
Amp simulation sounds pretty good, how does it feel playing guitar through Twin is it delay free? I'm afraid that I'll be disappointed coming from stomp boxes.
Yevgeni Yun the feeling is just as good as playing through a Line 6 amp modeler. It's immediate and no delay at all! That's the benefit of the DSP running the AMP inside the Apollo box and not in the computer.In fact - it even works when you turn your computer off!
Thanks for responding man, have you tried any other plugin like Amplitube or Guitar rig? I beleive thunderbolt shouldnt have any problems with that especialy having DSP on board to use UAD reverbs etc.
Hey Man, thanks for your review, what about mixing with the Duo? how many tracks can handle without lack? this is my major concern. I only need two inputs, but I manage large projects of +20 tracks sometimes. Thanks!!
Frank B hey Frank. Well you can mix and match with regular plug-ins. I don't think a Waves API or a UA API will sound that much different. Your computer can definitely handle hundreds of plug-ins, your Apollo cannot (5 to 10). So unless you use them on subgroups, something specific or only a couple of tracks, it' s not going to power your entire session. I don't think that's the purpose of it!. For that I would look at the Quad, and beyond! Recording with the Apollo for real time effect goodness to all involved parties - yes! Then let the might of your computer and DAW do the production!
Hello I would like to ask a question about the device Thunder bolt station who recommended me. I saw the model of the CalDigit has a HDMI input on it even being so, I turn the mac on the device by thunder bolt, Apollo Twin in another thunder bolt and my tv screen I use the mac can connect directly to the HDMI device CalDigit?
Luiz Fernando Mendes Viana yes, that is correct! There is another one called ELGATO Thunderbolt, it works the same way. The Belkin Thunderbolt dock DOES NOT have HDMI, so for Classic MacBook Pros (non retina) this is the best solution for Thunderbolt Audio interfaces, such as the Universal Audio Apollo.How do you feel about the World Cup in Brazil? Hope you guys are ok!;) It was a beautiful, beautiful tournament - the whole world - and even here in the USA, everybody watched it, and enjoyed it!... Best games, and best vibes ever!!
I have the CALDIGIT interconnected with my MacBook Pro.... Got my DUAL SCREENS CONNECTED ALONG WITH THE APOLLO TWIN... WORKS GREAT.. THE PASS THRU THUNDERBOLT PORTS WORK FLAWLESS!!!!!!! I have one 32"flat screen HDMI to HDMI , 2nd 32" FLAT SCREEN HDMI to THUNDERBOLT, and the APOLLO TWIN UTILIZES THE 2nd THUNDERBOLT PORT on the CALDIGIT... WORKS GREAT.... CALDIGIT Get's a little warm, but thats because I leave mine on 24hrs a day (i've had it for almost 3 months now...NO ISSUES)... I think it gets warm because like the APOLLO TWIN, the casing also serves as a heat sink.... BELKIN THUNDERBOLT SUCKS!!!!! GO WITH THE CALDIGIT.
THE APOLLO TWIN IS AWSOME!!!!! BEST BUY FOR YOUR BUCK and allows you access to CLASS A PLUGINS for LIVE and/or STUDIO recording !!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
Cool video man
+triptheswitch thanks for watching!
So which cable will give me the 8 tracks? The 003 can do the 2 stereo tracks or the 8. Haven't ever used adat for anything. Any suggestions on which cable? Amazon had some cheap ones but want to make sure it'll give me all the preamps (I have the 4 preamp 003 rack).
laphtoabeat google this one for example: Digital Audio Optical Toslink Cable Lightpipe ADAT , it's like $3.70 on Amazon ;)
massivebeatzz oh and I found a Toslink vs ADAT definition for you on wiki - here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOSLINK it's the same cable, just a different transmission protocol.
Is this the sequel to zero theorem, great sound
Can you use the bundled plugins in a DAW or do they have to stay within the UAD console?
+Harvey Wright you need UAD hardware, unfortunately :)!
@@massivebeatzz That's not what he asked dumbfuck. He said can you use them in a daw? Like regular vst's.
I know this is old... I just wanted to point out your shitty question comprehension skills.
Brian Johnson you are an asshole!!!
hi, thanks for doing this review!! one question...can you track through the plugins? Meaning, if i use a compressor or preamp plugin, will it record it that way? will I be able to remove the plugin after recording with it and have the effect recorded?
jarry Deee you're welcome, and you can do both!!. You can print the effect, or just have it in the monitoring bus!
How many plug-ins can you use until you max out...meaning would it be enough plug-ins to mix and master down a rap/hiphop session with about 20 tracks on protools? can I get some feedback thanks
no, you couldnt !But why not use your plug-ins in your computer? Waves, Logic, Ableton etc and then add some of teh UA plugins. You can mix them. But in the MIxer (so for monitoring, and playing live) you can only use UA plugins on the UA Twin. I got like 8 or so plugins if I remember correctly out of the DUO. The Solo is like 5 or so.. It depends what type of plugs you use.
The ADAT input does 8 inputs, no? So you should be able to get 10 inputs i thougth.
yes I did put an annotation for that in the vid!
Can someone tell me what the overview of the universal audio software is all about?
+mrbass093 how to use it, and how it really works!
massivebeatzz yes please lol
massivebeatzz what is that drum pad/midi?? the white futuristic one?? in the very beginning??
Luc Mickens that my friend is Maschine Studio, by Native Instruments.
can you just purchase uad-2 bundle? instead of purchasing the plugins seperate? i am thinking of buying an apollo duo but this is alot cheaper but i am just concerned if i can buy the uad-2 bundle package and use it with the apollo twin..
Yes, UAD2 is their newer standard (as well as the name of the hardware accelerator box) they are selling. Yes you can buy any bundle on the website, they're all the same file structure. TWIN comes with the Analog Classics bundle already, for example . Everything else is extra. Hope that helps. I agree, bundles is the way to go.
Jason Cox
good feedback and info - thanks!
hello, thanks for the video and knowledge you've shared here...i'm wondering if this device could be used for everyday playback when connected to computer, like when listening to iTunes, UA-cam, etc...your feedback would be very helpful, since i'm considering of buying it....many thanks!
yes, it could Xiao!..Ni Hao. The quality is great, and with the big button you can control the volume very well. And: It also works when your computer is OFF! It also has 2 stereo outputs, so one could go to the TV, the other to Stereo system, or Studio monitors etc. Plus, it has headphone outputs! But I would only advise buying the Apollo Twin, if you intend on recording as well of course - not just for playback. :) Thanks for watching.
thank you so much my friend, it's vey helpful...i have decided to order the Apollo Twin! also look forward to more great videos from you...
Dude is all over the place, like a spider on a hot plate;)
I bought this and ran it into my akg c214 and I wasent really pleased with the quality sound for the Money spent, so I bought a twin finity and now run that thru the apollo twin and for the extra $700 I see a difference but it doesn't feel that much more significant. Anybody have any legit suggestions on what I should do? I'm iffy n thinking I should get my 700 back or will the twin finity be a solid tool to keep around?
tristan baker well, it depends how much gain a particular mic needs! Also remember, to judge it correctly, you would need to run digitally into the Apollo, otherwise you'll have the sound of the Apollo on top of the sound of the TWINFINITY! Maybe try that first.
How do you have the Apollo and your external monitor connect to your Mac? Does your Mac have 2 thunderbolt ports?
hey Trac -you have a masterful eye, lol. So I actually use the Belkin Thunderbolt Dock, which I always wanted to try out. It works flawlessly. It gives you an extra TB port if you are on a non retina Macbook Pro, or Macbook Air. On a retina Macbook pro (=2 TB ports + 1HDMI port), there's no shortage of ports for that matter . P.S: The Caldigit seems to be getting good reviews as well. These docks also give you an Ethernet cable connection, and 3 USB 3.0, so they can be pretty useful.
Is it ok if I use a sample from what you played with your guitar? you played some sounds that really caught my attention. if it's ok of course.
hey Victor, it's OK, and please post what you did here!
massivebeatzz sure will and Thank you very much :)
:) !
wait...aren't you supposed to be able to use the plugins directly into your DAW?
Now with CPU speeds not going anywhere, it might be useful to have one of these, but, if I cannot load plugins into my DAW is just pointless and ends recording in a destructive way.
well, cpu performance has been increasing insanely! they are keeping the speeds steady, but the instructions these CPU's can handle without heat is monster! Skylake and beyond will make even basic laptops far more powerful than the most expensive Apollo. Even a 3 year old MacBook Pro, can run up to 100 plugins, Apollo Twin about 6 or 7. But what you benefit most from is having these effects in the monitoring chain and during the recording process. Also they are guaranteed to be latency free, and hassle free. It's an audio interface with clean converters, so that's where your money is best spent, just for that.
Thanks for the clarification. So is not a thing for me. Not at the boutique price they put the units and the plugins. Did you know each RISC chip costs about 20 bucks off the shelf?
I know there is R & D prices associated...but plz...I've seen companies working harder and have better prices.
I'm aware you can run a lot of stuff in your DAW. I have and overclocked 3770k running at 4.6ghz and run heavy orchestral setups. But I'm a bit worried CPUs aren't getting anywhere fast nowadays.
Friends of mine upgraded from let's say a 4770k to a 5820k and they found their performance was actually worse.
Not meant to be rude...I'm just not a guy a company can buy based on marketing hype.
The UAD plugins can only be used with the DSP hardware as far as I know and they are a lot closer to the real thing than any other company. You can buy all 83 plugins for a little less than half the price of a shadow hills and get almost identical performance to the real hardware units. The dsp box/interface, as far as I know, only lets you offload UAD plugins onto it which wouldn't help cpu performance if you're using Waves, Izotope or anything else really. You're right that cpu power isn't going anywhere. From Sandy to Broadwell-E, there's only been about an eight percent increase in IPC and Intel's really just sitting on their next three architecture's as long as AMD isn't releasing Zen. I'd honestly wouldn't worry about upgrading your cpu until Tigerlake unless you over-volt it from overclocking. What massivebeats isn't taking into consideration with how many plugins each system can handle is that all UAD plugins are DSP based, which eat up cpu power FAST. Yeah, a macbook can run 100 instances of eq or amp sims, but try putting 100 Butch Vig vocal plugins or some of the stuff by Izotope or Kush Audio, and you'll be lucky to effortlessly use 20. If you're considering buying hardware compressors/eq's and don't make 6 figures+, I'd say the UAD stuff is a good option, but if you're just sticking to recording your own stuff or tracking local artists every once in a while, Waves Gold and the Slate everything bundle would work fine and gold is only 400 sometimes when it's on sale, Slate is 20 a month I think.
bro help u know whats up man i own a phoenix tower 32 ram ddr4 i7 6700 quad core 8 processor brand hp 1 terabyte ssd samsung pro cubase 8 i only record vocals ima pc user will replacing my motu ultrlite with the APOLLO TWIN USB 3.0 which compatible with my new computer will it be better than my motu as far as converters an analog field an also are the uad plugins better than ozone 7 slate plugins sonnox eq i already have all those i wont be able to use those correct with the uad running thats why im asking if they are better if they are so that i can f it n go for the apollo or should i stay with my motu ultralite since i got ozone 765 saturn ssl heeeelllpppp lol donr wannah make a bad purchase
Your comment's a little confusing, but I think I know what you're asking. Yes, you can run those plugins if you use the UAD interface. The only thing you can't do is off load their power consumption onto the apollo like you can with the UAD plugins. If you only record vocals, then I don't think you should spend money on UAD plugins. Just get an actual 1176 or like a shadow hills opto. It'd be about the same price as the apollo and a couple UAD plugins. Whether or not Slate, Waves, and/or Ozone plugins are better than UAD's are completely subjective, but in my opinion, Ozone is best for mastering, Waves are best for mixing on the cheap if you don't have powerful cpu, Slate's best for mixing on the cheap when you do have a powerful cpu, and UAD is the best for mixing and mastering, but BY FAR the most expensive
Do you think that it Is better than a MOTU????
Really Nice Video... SIR PLEASE tell me that does Apollo MK2 Quad Work With iMac 27 inch retina display with 3.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 ? with thunderbolt 2
yes it sure does!!
is there a plug in i can get that will do what the motu card thing is doing ??? predicting the key of audio going throught
riskybusiness80 yes there is, it's the TUNER. UA sells it as a stand alone purchase for $19 (I know that's sad!). Works really well though, and looks...great. www.uaudio.com/store/guitar-bass/brainworx-bx-tuner.html
massivebeatzz thanks will check it out
I really need to know if it's able to load my VST collection in it...
For example any Amplitube sort of thing
EvilMambo it can use it like any other audio interface. so VST, AU, AAX, RTAS are being calculated by your CPU and then sent out to the audio interface from the DAW. So yes the Apollo will work! But the Apollo only uses UA plug-ins with it' s own Cores. So let's say you use an Amplitube amp effect and a UA reverb, then your computer's CPU will calculate the Amplitube, and Apollo will calculate the UA reverb. There won't be any delays or issues with that! All that works flawlessly! So you can actually help your computer CPU by running some UA plug-ins from the hardware! When I say Aomplitube - just to follow your example - it could be any other audio plug-in you have on your system. Another reverb, EQ, native instruments Maschine etc. All of that is taken care of by the computer CPU. Hope this helps.
massivebeatzz Thank you so much, that is just what i needed to know !
What app or program are you using that shows he key digitally on the top left of your computer screen?
Joseph Gettright hmm, that is the tuner that came as a trial plug-in with the Apollo. It's 19 dollars to buy.
can someone please give me some advice on this
i have 3 hardware synths, 1 hardware drum machine, and 1 mic. i want to record these on the fly in audio tracks in my DAW.
ive been looking into the Apollo twin duo and i have pretty much got my mind made up and i want to buy one. do i need to connect these synths to a mixer then to the Apollo twin duo?
what would be my best options?
thank you
Sorry for the long wait! No this is not ideal for you. Why? Not enough inputs. I would look for an audio interface that has at least 8 inputs. look at Focusrite Saphhire, Scarlet Red, Mackie etc. There are many many good ones out there!
Thanks for the reply. wouldnt the mixer running into the duo make up for the extra inputs? Also i would use an analogue mixer so that the signal comes through to the apollo with no latency. Would this work?
Hey man. How does that Twin compare to the Ultralite mk3? I got that UL and have been literally dreaming about a Twin. Is it worth the upgrade? Sell the UL? Also do you recommend a SOLO or DUO Twin? Thanks.
Hexspa great question, and I had the UL mk3 Hybrid before that! You get MORE with the Ultralite by MOTU: more ins/outs, DSP with no plugin cost to shell out, built in tuner, a multi-functioning display, firewire AND usb, mac and pc support. Not bad huh? At least on paper! The Apollo has the advantage (and disadvantage) that it relies on a home made plug-in system (UAD). The truth though is - these are excellent plug-ins = more flexibility! It's more than just an interface. It can be true Audio FX support for your computer! As long as you're willing to spend the money! The plug-ins, again, are top notch, and the mixer is far better than the geeky UL (and MOTU in general, dated mixer , which made me reconsult the manual often, and I never consult the manual).Apollo is a pleasure to work with , it's a desktop unit, and therefore very accessible - but make no mistake. There are limitations. Just a few ins/outs (analog at least), and even the DUO'S processing power runs out quickly. But it's not geared to take care of your mixes, but more of your monitoring situation, or printing during recordings. All that' s in realtime! So if you only need 2-3 effects per recording, the SOLO might work, if you need more, go for the DUO. UL has compressor, EQ and reverb integrated (no plug-in hassle, free, comes from the box), but then again, they are not very fun and it's dated!! No delays, no chorus, no distortion, no modulation...MOST of ALL, you can use the Apollo to get a GREAT guitar or bass sound when recording! Realtime plugins with minimal minimal latency! How cool is that? Beware though, the really good amps cost money...$149, $199 etc.Here's a thought -To keep things contained, I could see myself just use the SOLO, with the included small plug-in bundle (Analog Classics). All other 867 effects (lol) for mixing can easily be done on a current mac or pc, as long as you have that... Keep the cost at exactly what the SOLO costs! I think that's the idea of a little pristine, high quality portable unit.But everybody's workflow is different, so take my last comment with a grain of salt!
massivebeatzz Thanks.
massivebeatzz Plus "expanded" is coming so, uh expanding DSP, will be possible with the sattellites. Seems like the SOLO might be a good option for me.
Hi there! Thanks for the video! I have an ultralite mkiii too and was considering an Apollo, I was wondering if there would be any noticeable difference regarding the converters. How do the pres/converters of both units compare? Have you run any tests? As you say, the cuemix software is terribly counterintuitive, but besides that, i find the motu quite a versatile interface. Plugins aside, would you say the Apollo is a good investment just for the converters?
Holy crap. Three years later I still haven’t gotten one. Might be getting one soon tho!
I still do like expensive hardware preamps!
Andreas Oberholz that' s right! no updates needed!
I have apollo twin I just got the plugins that come with it they want way to much of a plugins for what they want for one plug I could buy a bundle for that price😑
exactly! I hate being on a payment plan!
they do payment plans what kinder plan they give the plugins then you pay them
Can you use these plugins on your DAW (e.i Logic) or do they just run in this console?
absolutely Joe. They run as plugins, with the difference that the processing power comes from the Apollo. Let's say you have a channel with 2 Logic Pug-Ins, 1 Waves Plugin, 2 UA Plugins. The computer would calculate the Logic and Waves Plugins, and Apollo's DSP (or DSPs) would take care of the UA ones. Note that they only work if you have the hardware connected! thanks 4 watching!
it looks like the plug-ins first shown are at least $2,000 over the price of the hardware, closer to $3,000. So to make a recording with add-ons you are in the $4,000 range with a dual preamp? they better do better than that
you certainly don't need all of those - so it might not be that expensive - but even if you buy a few - it gets expensive quickly. and the hardware is already very expensive - more should be included. much more.
massivebeatzz how many plug-ins would you say are included?
Would you recommend this if I'm just doing a podcast through a Mac or should I stay with the Focus Rite?
+Raphael Haynes if you are just doing podcast stay with the focusrite
+Rick Dave thanks.
+Rick Dave agreed!
can you process non uad plugins on the dsp or do they have to be supported?
pawpawtea unfortunately not! UA hardware requires UA plugins. Also , the computer cannot process UA plug-ins. So it is contained.
I'm confused between Apollo twin Or Aphex 500 rack ?
well, i think totally different system...!! havent had a chance to check it out yet.
+massivebeatzz, thanks for the vid, it is really tempting is it worth upgrading to the Apollo from a Scarlett 8i6, also looking to upgrade my mic from a se2200a to either an at4040, nt2a or a cad e100s. ill appreciate any suggestions.
I have the CAD e1000s good mic
Thanks I bought the at4040 I think the Cad might be next on my gear list or a 1073 neve
can you use more than two pairs of studio monitors wit the UAD??
well, not really - there's 2 stereo outputs. You could use the stereo output for headphones and route that to a 3rd set of speakers, but that's not an ideal situation as a headphone output is not a line output. Also, no digital outputs (bummer!), which is expected at this price level. hope this helps.
What is the difference between the Two Apollo Twin units, besides the price ;-) LOL Also is Thunderbolt going to be around for a while?
+hawg427 hey, so the difference is the processing power, and that' s it Single Core versus 2 (Dual) cores - and that's Apollo Twin Solo vs Apollo Twin Duo. Good question why they called them twins, since they are not twins, lol! While the solo can only handle a few plug-ins at once, keep in mind that you can record and monitor with UAD plugins and do your actual mixing via your DAW, where most multi-core machines can run far more plug-ins .
+massivebeatzz As expensive as their plug-ins are I doubt I would get any that did not come with the unit. I just want a GOOD solid built interface. Trying to choose between the Apollo and the MOTU Track 16.
+massivebeatzz Thank's. A buddy of mine had recommended the Focusrite 1 8i8 unit since I just do a little recording of my guitar. I did like the look of the Motu Track 16 but everybody has said the breakout cable weighs more than the unit itself. I guess there are Pro & cons with every unit out there. LOL I just didn't want a "Plastic" unit ;-)
What's the difference between delay and echo? I always wondered.
technically the same thing as far as marketing goes. Scientifically not (multiple delay tones make up for an echo effect that happens in nature) - but as far as labeling delay pedals / echo pedals etc , manufacturers often use these terms loosely!
What he was referring to in the video was latency. Delay and echo are the same thing in regards to effects, but it's most often called delay unless you're playing through a line 6 amp.
How do you handle your midi since there isn't midi in the interface?
the keyboard I had connected, had a USB connection which carries MIDI as well. Currently I use Maschine Studio which has a Midi interface built in along with classic MIDI in/out connectos.
How low can you set the buffersize when playing softsynths ? please?
How stable are the drivers regarding dropouts etc ?
Das Licht well, in that regards, keep in mind - the soft-synths are not coming from UA, but from the DAW's synth plug-ins. I haven't done real world tests, but it was slightly (not by as much as you would expect based on Thunderbolt Technology) better. I got it down to 32 on my retina macbook pro!. Then again, I can do 32 with most audio material anyway on it! The safe choice was 64 though.
massivebeatzz I know that regarding synths , but the buffer depends on the quality of the driver. Thank you !
Das Licht yes - and the driver , sure , but the "quality " of a driver has limits. With everything coded equally well among different manufacturers, the hardware matters eventually - and that determines the buffer size - aka the ability to process the audio in time.Thunderbolt interfaces, across the board do better as you probably know. The TWIN is no exception. I pitted it against a TR-8 working as USB audio interface at 96Khz. Better driver = even better results in Thunderbolt ? #tapintotheforcealready!
Can't you have 6 inputs with the optical input?
laphtoabeat 8 actually. I tried that out right after testing the unit initially. It'll show all ADAT channels in the mixer too. Pretty cool!
So, if I don`t need those DSP plugins, I don`t need this device as well? I`m just saving some money to replace my current Native Instruments Komplete audio 6 with something of higher level.
I`m on windows, btw
+Anti Phase well on windows there is the USB 3.0 version. If you're not needing the plug-ins there are cheaper units out there (the has been some really cool USB and Thunderbolt audio interfaces that came out right after the Apollo, and since I did the review). Some of those have DSP (non paying, hardware built-in) with a lot more ins and outs - so that might be worth checking out. That said, the Apollo IS a great interface!
+massivebeatzz Understood) Then I`ll try Appolo anyway. Thanks!
+Anti Phase let us know how it works out for you!
What does dsp stand for?
+mrbass093 that means that some audio interfaces have their own processing power which can be loaded with special plugins that are compatible only with those audio interfaces. You can`t use UAD plugins without their audio interfaces cause they are DSP plugins
do you not know how to properly fade a loop on time???
no idea what you refer to, but after releasing a few successful tracks and working with a couple of bigger studios , I think I got that skill down. forgetting it, or wanting to do it - that I don't know - nor should it be relevant for this review.
@9:30"Stand down now!! While I still allow it!!!!"
Quinn Allman I know right ? what's up with that all the time?!
Quinn Allman i know...dont know where that come from in regards to a sound review - ...but there is always some one in a movie talking like that! i'll try that at work tomorrow, lol!
do I need this if I already have a avid mbox pro if so I should I have it linked up
+dirtytv that would be redundant! choose one or the other ;)
+dirtytv this would replace you mbox, by 5 times
What's the reel to reel looking tape plugin for?
+Hikmat Hanna it's a plug-in that simulates a tape machine for analog warmth, compression and saturation. makes the sound less digital.
Does the apollo twin come with any plugins?
it comes with Analog Classics Bundle.. a little bit ...basic..good plug-ins. After that, it's PAYYY time. lol. I hate that.
Do i buy Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 or Apollo Twin, please help!? which one has the better analog to digital conversion?thank you!
get the Scarlett and research slate digital plugins. it's cheaper and gives u the same results. the box is just the beginning of expenses. aud plugins are very expensive.
+victor Fox aren't they free with the Apollo twin?
+CroElectroStile I got the Apollo twin it came with a could freebies but u have to buy the rest.
Yeah right. Teamed up with the slate digital bundle it is in the same level as an Apollo twin duo. I promise. I have both
+Wurk the Beatmaker Very wrong. You have no idea the level of resolution the 2i2 lacks, compared with an Apollo. The Scarlett 2i2 has a good pre-amp and maybe... just maybe the WORST driver ever created for a recording situation. The 2i2 doesn't connect with a send audio reliably due to bad drivers-- you will hit certain mixing limits an stuttering will occur. Focusrite has known of their shitty drivers for years. That issue alone is enough to never recommend another 2i2: I used to do it all the time too. Good luck getting all your Slate plugins working correctly with a 2i2.
Can you use the Apollo Twin if you do NOT have thunderbolt?
+Alexa Squillaro unfortunately not Alexa!
+Alexa Squillaro There is a USB version of the card. It's only for PC users, so it's either Mac+TB or PC+USB. Check it out on their site, it should be identical to the TB version when it comes to price and specs.
+Alexa Squillaro As of October 2015 the Apollo Twin (both Solo and Duo) are coming out as a usb version.
+Michael Parson-McNamara interesting - that will be closing the "no -USB/no PC" situation. Let's see how it works and what kind of latency will be possible. Hoping for USB 3.0 !
+massivebeatzz It is usb3. Sorry I meant to mention that, as it seemed the "big deal" here.
hahaha, this is was entertaining. "Stand Down!!!" Thanks!
***** ha, lol - glad it was !
One question bro.... was this a quad or a duo?
Don Williams they come in Solo and Duo! This is the Duo! The larger Apollos come in Quad though.
no windows support ?? no usb ? no 'directmusic' midi ports? are you kidding ? Useless interface
Vadim Martynyuk wait a minute , wait a minute - you got a point here!
It's for Mac's and why diminish it's quality with a USB when thunderbolt is faster and this is all about removing latency? Do you go to Ferrari dealerships and complain about the lack of a tow hitch or the ability run on diesel? Not everything is for everyone.
louderthangod that's a very arrogant point of view - it's like saying, you got a ferrari with 2 fast doors, but NO trunk door! you don't need it it's a ferrari! VADIM is right! should have a USB port ALSO! audio doesn't even saturate usb 2.0 , and the latency difference is minimal! that makes the device USB compliant AAAND Thunderbolt compliant! it also allows macs to run it when TB is used for an external 4K monitor, or Ethernet! it's a no brainer to make it it USB 3.0 AAAND TB... they didn't, because they're on a budget! less costs more - but ultimately leaves out 80% of the market - so not a smart decision in hindsight!
Well they're coming out with USB stuff for you PC and USB guys can put a spoiler on your F150.
louderthangod hahaha
does the effects that comes with it are demo?!
***** only the Analog classics bundle (which is limited but good!). That's a handful of effects (see UA's website, the info a bit hidden there ) for everything else you get a trial, after that it's pay pay pay:)
aahhh!!! main reason i wanted to get this is because of the effects that comes with it, now i have to rethink. Thanks bro
CAN WE USE THE DSP PLUGINS IN OUR DAW PLUGIN CHAIN?
Yes!
THANK YOU
At 9:10 we lost him for a while. LOL
ExclusiveLM lol
ExclusiveLM 😂😂😂
This interface is like a Mac...Sexy!
Engl does not mean Angel. Engl is a name. Engel means Angel :-)
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its compatible with reaper ??
yes!
Juan C on pc ? cause thats what i use
All these options... but you can't replace the real gear. You're all suckers.
haha!
+Hannah Hammond
Please post some of your recordings?
hahahahahaha
Hiya UAD employee
UAD state that all there plug-ins are more reliable than hardware, Why are they dropping support for 3 or 4 year OSX software, Are they saying hardware don't last past 4 years. They have dropped support for UAD2 in OSX Lion, 4 year life span? We all pay a lot of money for there plug-ins. We all help to take there compony into the future. Why start dropping support for UAD2 already. UAD last to support 64 BIT First to drop 32 BIT. They should spend less on advertising and more on (SUPPORT)
+Mark Lion is obsolete for audio productions, Mountail Lion is well supported for UAD
engl is angle in german? ähhhh nope ;-)
Your're close. Engel IS Angel, that's the closest you'll get to Engl. And Engl is pronounced Angl, not Aaangle. Engl is just a German last name. No meaning.
#ycemg
don't play
+duconmerde i perform, I don't play!
WTF !!
john jef what's the question John?
can you use WAVES PLUGINS throw this set up???
yes, they'll run off of what ever software you're using.
+DeMarcus Weir they'll run from your computer - NOT the UAD CPU!