14:30 “Deliver a lunar habitat by 2023”. My my that certainly is an ambitious timeline from Blue! In all seriousness, I’m looking forward to having two commercial companies slinging large payloads to the moon before the end of the decade. We might finally be getting the sci fi future we want.
the spacex feed said they were using this launch to experiment with heat tiles. They said they were both removing tiles to test the underlying backup system, and they were using lower grade tiles, and they said they were removing groups of tiles to simulate heating if they lost a whole bunch of tiles in one place. They said it really slick in like 1 second so you have to be listening close
10:40 互联网技术试验卫星、技术试验卫星03- "internet technology experimental satellite" and "technical experiment satellite 03", some sort of tech demonstrator vehicle. couldn't find much about what the experiments were for though.
As Musk has said, he sets ambitious time frames, to push his engineers. And while he may always be behind his stated schedule, he's gotten more done since founding SpaceX, than the entire rest of the world's space industry combined. 🤷♂️
5:53 paint smell ? "Vykrasit i vybrosit". Before throwing old stuff out, you paint it first for neighbors thinking you can afford throwing away a nice stuff 😂
Another reason to put lunar regolith bricks on a space station is to test them as radiation shielding for a lunar station that is processing regolith in 24hr sunshine.
What a wonderful time to be alive if you're into space travel and rocketry. The number of rockets being launched currently is amazing. My Scottish grandmother was born in Glasgow when horses powered public transportation and lived to see men standing on the moon. I grew up with Dan Dare and the Mekon in comics and still dream of seeing men and women standing on Mars before I return to being stardust.
I mean if something is being hidden at Vandy, it probably would not stay such for long depending on how visible that part of the base is from the train. The Pacific Surfliner goes right through the base.
"...also Blue Moon will deliver a lunar surface habitat no sooner than 2023..." Well, that's certainly a reachable goal LOL! :) I'm assuming that was supposed to be either 2032 or 2033.
These video updates are my lifeline to space news since I now refuse to use twitter. I still see some of your updates on Bluesky via a mirror of your account.
I'm really surprised that they didn't drag the booster out to deeper water before sinking it. Leaving it within range of even recreational SCUBA divers seems a bit risky.
For those who criticize Scott's Chinese, I kindly challenge a unilingual Mandarin-speaker to say, "Starship Superheavy," in English with a Scottish accent!
They'll need one new HLS for every lunar landing. They can keep the HLS at the way station as additional space, but they will probably not design it to be refueled and refurbished. So either the rover goes into the HLS, which would be quite convenient, or they use another Starship, maybe a stripped down HLS. It's not like there's any system available that can put a couple tons onto the lunar surface.
I think it is more appropriate to call CZ-12 a clone of Russian Zenit(four nozzles in the 1st stage). CZ-12B is the real falcon-9 clone with 9 open cycle rp1 engines. CZ-12A is said to be using 7 open cycle methalox engines, and is capable of achieving sea launch and sea recovery. The development of CZ-12 was originally part of SAST’s proposal toward CZ-10(inspired by Russian designs), which uses 4 3.8m diameter boosters and 1 3.8m center core as first stage, with a larger 5m diameter 2nd stage and 3rd stage. After SAST failed the bidding to CALT’s proposal, which is the current CZ-10(inspired by falcon9 and falcon heavy), SAST took the first stage from that proposal, combined with a low cost 2nd stage, and later named as CZ-12.
seriously sometimes it feels like they're making their naming conventions intentionally as confusing as possible... so we'll have three rocket types with different engine configurations of which one doesn't even share the same propellant combination all under essentially the same designation? never change China, never change...
@@sc1338 quick google search says no it hasn't, and also using simulated regolith isn't exactly unique to China... honestly on the scale of world firsts the Chinese space program has achieved so far this is a pretty minor one anyway.
Also, Ultra Starship block 5 booster should be pointy at both ends tapering to a nice hypersonic heat shield cone up top and thickening to a serious aerospike nozzle cluster at the base with outside tank rings as downcomers and baffle cones and the whole shebang caught by an electromagnetic field cradle. Cargo, Hab, Ship/Lander, and smaller suborbital ballistic deliveries as independent donut rings in a tower of Hanoi stack which hot stage directly against the heatshield superstructure and fly off on separate trajectories dependent on mass and orbital velocity. reentry is pointy side down with an atmospheric 180 flip and levitational caught landing for full booster reusability. Anything besides a dedicated lander can be reused in space with adequate docking and refueling logistics. Have you seen the Hover Pen - Kinda like that
14:22 Everyone is joking about how the Blue Moon "2023" dare is wrong. It isn't. He said no sooner than 2023. It's almost 2025. Blue Moon hasn't launched yet.
Very good to see NASA using RTG technology on something as "active" as a flying drone, admittedly solar wouldn't stand a hope in hell of supplying the juice for such a machine, but still, good to see nuclear getting in the game...looking forward to some awesome images...
Anyone know if the loop satellite delay is lower with Starlink than previous satellite versions that were geostationary?? Thanks Scott for your efforts to collect all this footage and information, it tells me just how busy the launch program is.
Once Starship reaches operational status undoubtedly SpaceX will offer ride-shares to the Lunar Surface, Low Lunar Orbit, Mars Surface (2027...), and Low Mars Orbit (2027...) on their booking web page in addition to LEO.
Other posts by SpaceX seem to hint that since Lunar Starship is autonomous, there will be several more supply ships besides than manned ship that will land, and most likely land ahead of the manned mission to be ready just in case the initial mission is extended. Or for the future as we intend to return to the moon for eventual permanent concurrent habitation. So, additional supplies will not be wasted. We saw from the later Apolo missions how invaluable a rover was. Water and other resources may end up being further away from the landing zone than we would like. In that case, a rover would give the astronauts abilities that are the very reason for manned vs robots. They will be able to make decisions on the fly that machines are still a long way from being capable of!
No, and Falcon 9 only has about 6 to 8 years left, according to recent statements from Gwynne Shotwell (SpaceX's COO). At which point (around 2030-2032), Falcon 9 will be completely replaced by Starship.
Hi Scott! I was wondering if there is any sort of tax or remittance in place for the pollution that many of these tests from space companies end up leaving in certain environments??
Orbital mechanics lets spacecraft build momentum with many well-timed short bursts of thrust. It will orbit the Earth over and over in those 45 days. Each orbit will take it closer to the Moon before it dives back toward Earth. Instead of propellant, the tanks and heavy engines the spacecraft can have more working payload to land on the Moon.
It’s also not going directly to the moon. As stated in the video, it will do some things in low earth orbit. It will then travel to the moon which will take four days. It will stay in lunar orbit for a bit before landing.
With the Ru economy diving, I'm genuinely left wondering how much longer they'll keep up with their end of things for the ISS 😒 I also can't deny that there's a little voice in my head wondering if these capsule ""problems"" will become more frequent and more severe... not actually due to negligence, but *intentionally* with the official word obviously not being that, strictly to give them an "out" due to things ""outside if their control"". I'm expecting they'll say something like: _"Sorry, we can't keep up our end of things due to reliability issues. We are investigating the causes and will resume as soon as possible."_ Of course, that "ASAP" will *_coincidentally_* be after the ISS runs out of something important that only the Ru side can provide. _(I know Scott has mentioned how is the Ru side that provides power AND station keeping, but the latter is something we technically have become able to do)_
4:15 I dont understand why, if the booster was still nearly fully intact and floating on the surface, why would they not just simply tow it back to Boca Chica and analyze it and scrap it there? Why go out of their way to sink it, especially when it is so close to the shore line and the water is clearly not even as deep as the booster is tall? It makes no sense to me. Especially after they went thru the effort of hauling up the remains of booster from IFT 4, and that one wasnt intact and sunk on its own. I think that was still the correct thing to do for that one, but with IFT 6 the booster was just floating there waiting to be towed back and they deliberately chose not to. If anyone can explain why, please do.
I still can't believe they let a boy sit in a boat and film the landing
😂
Great work experience for a young intern
+9000 social credit
Its probably X-A-Æ-Xii
*groan
14:30 “Deliver a lunar habitat by 2023”. My my that certainly is an ambitious timeline from Blue! In all seriousness, I’m looking forward to having two commercial companies slinging large payloads to the moon before the end of the decade. We might finally be getting the sci fi future we want.
Glad I'm not the only one that clocked that. Surely 2033 was meant?
@@benkai09 I don't know. Was said "No sooner than 2023." Will technically be true unless it has a Flux Capacitor.
The lunar habitat is great, but why's nobody talking about the time travel capability?
he did say "no sooner then" so he is not wrong. it wasn't put there before 2023 so all this tells us its in the works and they are having delays :P
Still waiting for the fully self driving tesla that was promised....in 2016.
14:22 the Vulcan science directorate has determined that time travel is impossible.
and we know how wrong they were....
Lol
Well you say that, but sometimes if I work at night, maybe once a year I get to work half an hour before I left
"no sooner" soo not entirely wrong!
At 14:22 "also Blue Moon will deliver a lunar surface habitat no sooner than 2023": can we assume that you meant *2033* there?
Nah, the rockets were actually just a distraction, bezos’s real game has been time machines all along
No, they just have to go REALLY fast.
I mean technically it's still not sooner than 2023
😂 😂 😂 😂
No, they'll deliver it just after they deliver the time machine.
Congrats on making it through the Chinese satellite names 😂
Please do a deep dive on Dragonfly! There's so little information out about it's development. If anyone can sleuth this stuff out it's you!
I'll never get over building sized objects landing using rocket engines.
you know buildings wiegh more than a rocket....
just saying.. rockets are only tin cans with fancy flames shooting out the bottom....
@@Bibiboshrockets aren’t exactly lightweight either
@@oberonpanopticon well compared to when they are fully fueled they are, but yeah
Well, you will certainly not get over a building sized object landing anywhere close to you WITHOUT rocket engines, so..... 😅
@@rlosable well well, people think parachutes would work but they wouldnt especially for starship
the spacex feed said they were using this launch to experiment with heat tiles. They said they were both removing tiles to test the underlying backup system, and they were using lower grade tiles, and they said they were removing groups of tiles to simulate heating if they lost a whole bunch of tiles in one place. They said it really slick in like 1 second so you have to be listening close
It's useful to gather actual data when you have a hardware rich iterative development ongoing. 😊
Speculation: delaying the video stream makes it harder to determine acceleration and, hence, payload mass.
10:40 互联网技术试验卫星、技术试验卫星03- "internet technology experimental satellite" and "technical experiment satellite 03", some sort of tech demonstrator vehicle. couldn't find much about what the experiments were for though.
Sounds like their SpaceX clone rocket is launching a Starlink clone sat.
No SOONER than 2023!? Good luck with the time machine thing.
2033
@scottmanley 😁
Technically it's still "no sooner than 2023" 😊
@@scottmanleyBro's the guy who sends emails without exclamation marks.🥶
i would have tought NASA / Blue Origin having a time machine would make more news, i totally missed that.
They do have a Time Machine. It’s a wooden laser cut owl clock from a UA-cam advert.
2023 is crazy.
Especially since that was _last_ year!! May have meant 2032 . . . ?
2032? Not from the US @@ceejay0137
I wasn't expecting a reference to the Spanish Inquisition .........
_Nobody_ expects references to the Spanish Inquisition!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Nobody. . . A shit I'm too late 😂
@@lukasvondaheim "And those that do..."
SHIT.
"No sooner than 2023". Certainly, considering that 2023 is almost a year ago 😅
As Musk has said, he sets ambitious time frames, to push his engineers.
And while he may always be behind his stated schedule, he's gotten more done since founding SpaceX, than the entire rest of the world's space industry combined. 🤷♂️
5:53 paint smell ? "Vykrasit i vybrosit". Before throwing old stuff out, you paint it first for neighbors thinking you can afford throwing away a nice stuff 😂
That Dawn Aerospace space plane is very cool.
Did they just take off from a gravel strip😮; kiwi #8'ing at it's finest!
In Before Thunderf00t makes a bad prediction.
Another reason to put lunar regolith bricks on a space station is to test them as radiation shielding for a lunar station that is processing regolith in 24hr sunshine.
Being in LEO they won't get the same radiation exposure that they would get on the moon. So only a limited test.
3:38 nice shot demonstrating the planet curvature. If anything else of that flight would not convince flat-eathers 😅
What a wonderful time to be alive if you're into space travel and rocketry. The number of rockets being launched currently is amazing.
My Scottish grandmother was born in Glasgow when horses powered public transportation and lived to see men standing on the moon. I grew up with Dan Dare and the Mekon in comics and still dream of seeing men and women standing on Mars before I return to being stardust.
5:32 Just like every good Xmas present, the paints not dry.
Best wishes to Blue Origin.
They are planning to reach orbit and land like Falcon 9 on first try.
This is the 4th December in a row they said they would do their first New Glenn launch. Don't plan on it.
Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition!
Well now I did, after reading this comment haha
What is this, the bloody Spanish inquisition
14:28 "no sooner than 2023" - I'm pretty sure they missed that deadline already!
Technically, unless it gets cancelled, it will fly no sooner than 2023...
a lot of space scheduling is fantasy, this proves it!! ;D
NROL-126 seemed to take a track pretty close to the coast and gave Santa Barbara a nice shaking.
I mean if something is being hidden at Vandy, it probably would not stay such for long depending on how visible that part of the base is from the train. The Pacific Surfliner goes right through the base.
supposedly there were also drops of liquid floating around inside the Progress when they opened the hatch. Maybe a can of borscht leaked? 😁
That could explain the smell... 😊
@@MarcoTedaldi Da
"...also Blue Moon will deliver a lunar surface habitat no sooner than 2023..."
Well, that's certainly a reachable goal LOL! :)
I'm assuming that was supposed to be either 2032 or 2033.
A good thing for everyone to remember "Apple didn't invent the smartphone".
14:21 Blue Origin's Blue Moon is so fast that it can deliver habs to the past lol
Scott, Thank you for a great report on the ststus of space flight.
Are they allowed to leave a load of ITAR-protected rocket engines in shallow water where anyone could go and nick one?
ah yes, anyone with a wrench can go undo a few bolts and load the 1.5 ton engine on their boat
@giovannifoulmouth7205 anyone who would want to steal SpaceX designs could, yes. You would probably use a torch.
Hey Scott hope your having a great week.
Thanks for all the updates, Scott! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
If you can smell UDMH, you are probably already dead.. 😧
N2O4 not UDMH
@@bineetgupta UDMH is much worse than N2O4 in terms of toxicity. I was trained to service and fuel 8K84 actually. Long time ago..
The New Glen is getting close to that first test flight. That will be a launch for the history books.
What will it do that hasn't been done before? What records will it break?
@@Scanner9631 It will break the record for biggest rocket ever launched by Blue Origin.
@@surferdude4487
If it ever launches
I'm looking forward to seeing the first stage landing. It's quite a bit taller than falcon9.
Thanks Scott!
I thought that Scott would say "I'm back from Boston with a big payload in my cargo area"
Great video as always. And I like that ending music, wish I could get a longer version.
Hi Scott!
Fly safe!
These video updates are my lifeline to space news since I now refuse to use twitter. I still see some of your updates on Bluesky via a mirror of your account.
I love them too, but only here on you tube.
That t-shirt 👍
Kerosene would definitely have a paint like smell.
So cool to see something like Dawn Aerospace launching a rocket plane right here in New Zealand!
Flerfers may have a problem starting at about 3:40
I'm really surprised that they didn't drag the booster out to deeper water before sinking it. Leaving it within range of even recreational SCUBA divers seems a bit risky.
Ayeeee repping Launch Canada!
For those who criticize Scott's Chinese, I kindly challenge a unilingual Mandarin-speaker to say, "Starship Superheavy," in English with a Scottish accent!
Stharh Shheepp Shooper Heevee
They'll need one new HLS for every lunar landing. They can keep the HLS at the way station as additional space, but they will probably not design it to be refueled and refurbished. So either the rover goes into the HLS, which would be quite convenient, or they use another Starship, maybe a stripped down HLS. It's not like there's any system available that can put a couple tons onto the lunar surface.
That line of missing heat tiles existed from launch.
I think it is more appropriate to call CZ-12 a clone of Russian Zenit(four nozzles in the 1st stage). CZ-12B is the real falcon-9 clone with 9 open cycle rp1 engines. CZ-12A is said to be using 7 open cycle methalox engines, and is capable of achieving sea launch and sea recovery. The development of CZ-12 was originally part of SAST’s proposal toward CZ-10(inspired by Russian designs), which uses 4 3.8m diameter boosters and 1 3.8m center core as first stage, with a larger 5m diameter 2nd stage and 3rd stage. After SAST failed the bidding to CALT’s proposal, which is the current CZ-10(inspired by falcon9 and falcon heavy), SAST took the first stage from that proposal, combined with a low cost 2nd stage, and later named as CZ-12.
It is said the each CZ-12 is cost less than ZQ-2E, that’s why this config of CZ-12 exists 😂
Zenit isn't Russian
seriously sometimes it feels like they're making their naming conventions intentionally as confusing as possible... so we'll have three rocket types with different engine configurations of which one doesn't even share the same propellant combination all under essentially the same designation? never change China, never change...
@@scottmanleyIndian ! 😅
Hi from Northern Ontario. Like your shirt!
Cool t-shirt Scott
Remember the scene regarding a smell in the sci-fi movie, 2010:The Year we make contact"
So, I can't wait to have moonbrakes on my car.
Woo, lots of interesting stuff going on. The spaceplane is especially interesting. I wonder if we could see SSTO become viable in my lifetime.
I would like to bring to your attention the fact that the Polish mission just received the name and patch 😊
China doing Lunar Regolith Brick Spacenstress testing is the most innovative stuff at the moment.
Doubt that is true, even if they were actually doing that.
“Simulated” regolith, and honestly it’s probably been done before
@@sc1338 quick google search says no it hasn't, and also using simulated regolith isn't exactly unique to China... honestly on the scale of world firsts the Chinese space program has achieved so far this is a pretty minor one anyway.
Most likely, the Starship program is so much delayed that they'll get to Artemis 3 before HLS is ready and so they just don't land on the moon.
Always amusing to hear Scott slaughter the Chinese language
Scott manley, may I introduce myself. My name is Trent Gentlemanish. Let us meet one another and marvel collectively at our extremely manly names.
China is just trolling with those names, I believe
Thank you.
Also, Ultra Starship block 5 booster should be pointy at both ends tapering to a nice hypersonic heat shield cone up top and thickening to a serious aerospike nozzle cluster at the base with outside tank rings as downcomers and baffle cones and the whole shebang caught by an electromagnetic field cradle. Cargo, Hab, Ship/Lander, and smaller suborbital ballistic deliveries as independent donut rings in a tower of Hanoi stack which hot stage directly against the heatshield superstructure and fly off on separate trajectories dependent on mass and orbital velocity. reentry is pointy side down with an atmospheric 180 flip and levitational caught landing for full booster reusability. Anything besides a dedicated lander can be reused in space with adequate docking and refueling logistics. Have you seen the Hover Pen - Kinda like that
Interesting that they didn't use a crane or winch to recover the super heavy booster.
I still can't believe they let a boy sit on a boat and video the landing.
Could you make a video on what IOT sattelites actually do? What devices use them? How do they make money? that type of stuff
14:22 Everyone is joking about how the Blue Moon "2023" dare is wrong. It isn't. He said no sooner than 2023. It's almost 2025. Blue Moon hasn't launched yet.
Very good to see NASA using RTG technology on something as "active" as a flying drone, admittedly solar wouldn't stand a hope in hell of supplying the juice for such a machine, but still, good to see nuclear getting in the game...looking forward to some awesome images...
Anyone know if the loop satellite delay is lower with Starlink than previous satellite versions that were geostationary??
Thanks Scott for your efforts to collect all this footage and information, it tells me just how busy the launch program is.
Hello Mr Here. 👋
The rocket plane is cool.
Once Starship reaches operational status undoubtedly SpaceX will offer ride-shares to the Lunar Surface, Low Lunar Orbit, Mars Surface (2027...), and Low Mars Orbit (2027...) on their booking web page in addition to LEO.
Manley my friend; people have different olfactory nerves, and the Chinee keep marching along!
The smell from Progress was probably cheap Vodka.
I wonder if they are working on hardware to test the new LGM-35 and just pit a blanket ban in place
Will Falcon Heavy use an extra stage to get the delta v needed to get Dragonfly to Titan or lots of gravity assists?
Part from the title starts at 9:30
3:50 : hey look, the Earth is a globe!
Other posts by SpaceX seem to hint that since Lunar Starship is autonomous, there will be several more supply ships besides than manned ship that will land, and most likely land ahead of the manned mission to be ready just in case the initial mission is extended. Or for the future as we intend to return to the moon for eventual permanent concurrent habitation. So, additional supplies will not be wasted. We saw from the later Apolo missions how invaluable a rover was. Water and other resources may end up being further away from the landing zone than we would like. In that case, a rover would give the astronauts abilities that are the very reason for manned vs robots. They will be able to make decisions on the fly that machines are still a long way from being capable of!
Do you think Falcon 9 will ever launch from Starbase? If not why?
None of the facilities there to handle, incorporate, move erect and fuel.. To start.
No, and Falcon 9 only has about 6 to 8 years left, according to recent statements from Gwynne Shotwell (SpaceX's COO). At which point (around 2030-2032), Falcon 9 will be completely replaced by Starship.
Why would they launch it from Starbase? They can only launch a limited number of rockets a year from there, why would they waste it on Falcon 9?
That cup though
But what's the future of SLS
a recent episode to "the space race" does feature that project, good episode!
But why didn't you put starship 6 in the sub-orbital section...🤔
Was that just me not listening closely or he forgot to show the Chinese Falcon9?
Hi Scott! I was wondering if there is any sort of tax or remittance in place for the pollution that many of these tests from space companies end up leaving in certain environments??
The reliability of the Soyuz and Progress capsules has degraded since the Ukrainian engineers and technicians left RosKosmos.
How do you know when these line of tiles came off? I don't see any of them popping off during the bellyflop video that you say was obvious.
So the Atomcopter is coming at the end.
45 days to reach the moon’s orbit with this technology, Saturn V reach moon’s surface in 4 days, what are we missing here?
Orbital mechanics lets spacecraft build momentum with many well-timed short bursts of thrust. It will orbit the Earth over and over in those 45 days. Each orbit will take it closer to the Moon before it dives back toward Earth. Instead of propellant, the tanks and heavy engines the spacecraft can have more working payload to land on the Moon.
It’s also not going directly to the moon. As stated in the video, it will do some things in low earth orbit. It will then travel to the moon which will take four days. It will stay in lunar orbit for a bit before landing.
We live in wild times
I recommend anyone to also watch the video on the Starship launch as filmed by Kai Trump, interesting in many ways
7:18 : CNES is pronounced "qness", like in Loch Ness, without a pause between the C and the NES.
With the Ru economy diving, I'm genuinely left wondering how much longer they'll keep up with their end of things for the ISS 😒
I also can't deny that there's a little voice in my head wondering if these capsule ""problems"" will become more frequent and more severe... not actually due to negligence, but *intentionally* with the official word obviously not being that, strictly to give them an "out" due to things ""outside if their control"".
I'm expecting they'll say something like:
_"Sorry, we can't keep up our end of things due to reliability issues. We are investigating the causes and will resume as soon as possible."_
Of course, that "ASAP" will *_coincidentally_* be after the ISS runs out of something important that only the Ru side can provide.
_(I know Scott has mentioned how is the Ru side that provides power AND station keeping, but the latter is something we technically have become able to do)_
love youre content, 🇮🇩
I'm pretty content with it myself!
@@llanitedave Yes, and a very compe tent statem ent :D
4:15 I dont understand why, if the booster was still nearly fully intact and floating on the surface, why would they not just simply tow it back to Boca Chica and analyze it and scrap it there? Why go out of their way to sink it, especially when it is so close to the shore line and the water is clearly not even as deep as the booster is tall? It makes no sense to me. Especially after they went thru the effort of hauling up the remains of booster from IFT 4, and that one wasnt intact and sunk on its own. I think that was still the correct thing to do for that one, but with IFT 6 the booster was just floating there waiting to be towed back and they deliberately chose not to. If anyone can explain why, please do.
Did rocketlab ever catch the booster like they promised?
Promised?
If you mean by helicopter, I believe that was abandoned over a year ago, after issues during the first or second attempt.
The Chinese payloads translate as " tasty dumplings" and " Kung fu panda". I think they are just messing with you Scott.
yu soo fani
Optus is Singaporean owned. Not Australian