This MISTAKE is the REASON why you LOSE on SPEEDSTERS | Pokemon Unite
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- This MISTAKE is the REASON why you LOSE on SPEEDSTERS | Pokemon Unite
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do you think this is also part of a reason why Speedsters dont have a high win rates?
i also do the same mistake sometimes just after jungling dive into opponent base with night slash zoroark
Definitely, it’s really risky to go in and especially with absol you have keep going in to the fight and going back out, one slip up and that’s it tho
What do y’all want speedster to be? Broken early, mid & late game?
By having differents Pokémon and gamestyle while still keeping the game balance, you have to, surprise surprise, make Pokémon op in one area and bad in another.
If you don’t want a gamestyle that’s op early game and bad late game, then play another Pokémon.
Edit: if you choose a Pokémon that easily destroy early game, then it’s only fair for opponents to have comeback experience easily.
Tiranitor is broken late game, so it’s only fair to make it weak early game so opponents have counterplay. Most Pokémon are the same, weaker early game, stronger late game, I think it’s nice to have some alternative, but maybe all Pokémon should all the same🤷
The simple answer is while someone gets ahead it's good to be aggressive and push but not throw a lead. But even then it is not about throwing it's about adapting.
If you bullied someone early and they get there levels, say a T-tar or Blastoise. Don't act like you can still kill them easily because now they can most likely survive hits and punish you. What worked early is not going to work throughout the game when things gain levels. And if course overconfidence due to being ahead. Remember speedster do damage but they don't scale defenses that well. A level 7 can still die easily to a 5 or 13 to an 11.
It's just knowing when to change mindset. But yes throwing is another thing 😂 besides they are technically assassins to try and kill Squishies.
It's kinda difficult for Speedster because you should dive in teamfights because you can't just stay or you're useless during the match. So yeah, it's one of the reason why Speedster don't have a good winrate: you dive and try or you're useless
I think a big part of it is players not knowing who their priority targets as a speedster are. Too many times do I see speedsters not bide their time to engage in a fights and run into a defenders cc. Patience makes an amazing speedster player imo. Watch for cds of your biggest threats then engage.
It's so funny when I see speedsters waste cool downs on Defenders
When the enemy team consists of Clef, M2, Blast, Pikachu and (for a tad bit of realism, prolly a cinderace off farming somewhere else) I feel so useless as zoro, like:
Do I engage now?
How about now?
My teams dead, how bout now?
Ok, they’re bouta get objective, and I don’t wanna feel useless, so attempt a steal- BOOM, Cinderace transforms into a slowbro in the stands and you get unite moved!
😔
😂
Well, that's what it means to be a Speedster. Either you will be so good early and mid game that if you might die, you may give them comeback experience or you may make them so underleveled that they would instantly lose in any teamfight. Those two does happen at times and why Speedsters are a hit or miss and why they are difficult to balance but that's what makes them fun. Overcoming that weakness has always been the player's goal. We can ofset that weakness if we want to by being careful or by laning. That's what makes Speedsters fun as well.
It's not that fun when like 60% of top tiers can sure hit OHKO you with zero effort most of the time imo
Imo its mostly that as the game goes one and your enemies get access to stronger tools, you have to adjust your lvl of agression and start going for your own targets more so than looking for the big team wipes like you can do early-mid game.
Its "easy" to wipe a team around lvl 7, but going into the same fight around lvl 10.. well you only need to get hit by 1 unite to go down as a speedster. The danger spikes up dramatically and a single mistake/death sets you back much harder than other roles.
I think the biggest mistake speedsters make is getting ahead and putting themselves in bad situations. When you are 3 levels up on your enemy, you should be sticking to winning team fights. You got in trouble because you invaded their jungle alone, especially after 5:00 when they have jump pad, which is what Blasty Boy did to get you. If you are more even with enemy team, it can be worth the risk because the punishment isn't as bad.
Just my take on it. Once you have a big lead, team fight to keep it. Splitting up is what costs games.
I struggle with this playing as an Absol. Then when you don't engage more aggressively to not give up exp, the randos get mad too lol
Game time should be the only factor on death timer
Opponents already get a Huge ammount of XP for killing somone who is ahead, the extra 20 seconds or so you get are just adding Salt to the wound
sometimes if youre carrying hard, a part of it is your team relying too much on you, whether its a skill issue or a very fair and balanced pokemon issue
Speedsters are basically melee attackers from an HP/Def standpoint. They just have more burst and speed to compensate for needing to get in close. And you will go down faster on a speedster because of that. So yeah, you have to be much more calculated and practiced on a speedster. You don't have nearly as much grace to miss moves/combos and live like you do on an attacker.
I've been mostly able to avoid giving up a lot of experience because I run meowscarada in the lane. Since I'm not jungling, I don't snowball as hard as, say, a central zoroark.
I really like meowscarada with night slash and trailblaze. It has amazing rip and you can solo a regi with it.
By the way. Is it weird that the song "Cat scratch fever" plays on a loop in my head when I play meowscarada?
Yes 1000% weird.
Wait, skull girls or is it an actual song???
@@stranger4554 just listened to first 30 seconds of it sounds like some rock song with no sudden blast of noise and alot of lyrics so 100% weird I expected it to be non lyrical.
Its hard to say. On one hand, comeback experience is ridiculous, but on the other hand, it is literally the only way to come back sometimes. And sometimes there are games, especially against meta abusing duos and trios, where im thinking "the only way we even stand a chance at winning is getting a comeback exp pick" and in those games im really glad it exists. So its hard to really say. I think it is needed as a comeback mechanic, especially because of how easily some comps can snowball, but at the same time the amount feels so ridiculous sometimes... on top of all the other punishments you get for it like insane death timers
I use to not use meta mons but after seeing how many a wholes use it I decided to pick up glaceon it's bad in low classes but in masters all you need is a slowbro and your gonna f up every meta abuser
@@MOST-CONFIDENT theres nothing wrong with playing meta mons mind you. Its just a problem, imo, when youre a solo q player, have a duo or trio q that insta-lock 3 squishies. And the enemy team has a trio or duo queue that abuses the most meta or abuseable strategies. Those games are almost completely unwinnable and that sucks for the solo queue players
And yeah, glaceon is really good rn
@@someone999555 I understand comp from experience trust me I could give a whole essay . I find glaceons only good if there's a Frontline or distracted or cc but otherwise it's a struggle if your team is majority attackers adding glaceon will do nothing cause you got no Frontline and take direct hits.
to be fair the leafeon was basically lvl 10, you had 4 lvls on him and he only went to 11. it's not too crazy atleast in this situation
That shedinja doll timing are perfect 😂
😂😂😂 i don't know how he managed to do that
@@Global-y8p Me to bro, I think heavy practice
Dont think you'll answer this chris but is there a reason why alot of high win rate absols ive been seeing are running drain crown?
Btw would you stream on UA-cam as well or be a Magikarp main :")?
Cris what too play in this new patch ? Soloq .
thank you mr heroes, ive been wanting to learn absol
I think comeback exp is okay. They need to fix the death timers though.
Those crits were JUICY. I'm taking notes as an Absol main.
It's risky using the shedninja doll too because people know it's weakness
I feel like comeback experiencie works really bad. Whenever I get KO after having like 3 levels of advantage, I give them like two levels for the one that get the last hit and one level to the others around. I once got a KO from an enemy 3 levels above as a Goodra but we were winning and didn't give a single level, I didn't expect that, from level 10 to almost level 11.
Yeah if your in the lead anyways it doesn't comeback xp only if your behind.
This is why as a speedster lover I have an escape for each of the speedsters..talons is the easiest since you can just use your unite or BB or fly to get out which is why I love the birb sm
Your team is good but my team builds most of the times (leftover,scoreshield, assault West,in 1400 +)😢😢😢
Leafeon went from lvl 9 to lvl 11 with that kill
2:45 lvl 3 vs lvl 10 🤣🤣
Probably the same thing for Mimikyu or Urshifu Rapid Strike lmao
My mistake is matched with enemy team full of sure hit and crowd controller
Can anyone recommend a good build for solar blade Leafeon? I swear I'm struggling with leafeon. I can't survive hits that I can with other speedster.
Can mimikyu be classified as a speedster with play rough & shadow sneak? it gets punished just like speedsters do while doing the exact same thing ?🤔
Id' say its somewhere in between
Players must be more precise, accurate, and patient when they use speedsters. Unlike adc characters, you can’t just hold A.
I see too many people act over-confident or greedy while playing speedsters (sometimes to the point of arrogance too), and they’re often very heavily punished later in the match.
Its over confidence, it make our thinking sloppy.
Come back experience was great thing in game but that need too get a nerf . Why it give more than 1 level at the time .
the thing is if you don't have come back exp the game will just be boring. You dominate in the first jungle fight and you win the rest of game
there should be a new way
the amount of exp ur enemy gains after they ko u should be the amount of hp +20% of the current level this is the best way
Me with the reflexes of a potato - - ah...yes, that mistake, of course
in my country there is this... time span where it lasts 6 hours where there will be absol players, DIFFERENT PLAYERS who consistently prio pick absol jungle and consistently be bad at it. All the players here just knew to not play during those hours
I get 21 - 10 score in the whole game and then a slowbro slowbeams me in ray pit
The issues with speedsters is just soloQ. I don't think any of the speedsters are bad, they each just do better vs certain mons/comps.
I fully expect draft to rapidly change everyone's pick and win rates cause we can actually see what and who we're going up against
Yeah I had a game where I was against 4 defenders if I knew I would've never played a speedster they also had an eldegoss which is kinda tanky its no decidueye one shot.
Yesterday I invaded the jungle of Leafeon using Sableye everytime I can (I mean not only in the first rotation), after that in the late game, the Leafeon and some of their atkers really want my booty Lmao.
I’m all for comeback mechanics but when I have a 10 K/A over the opposing jungler and they somehow able to keep up with a 2 K/A while being absent in team fights, something is wrong.
Nerf jungle xp
I think catch up xp is good for the game, I just don't agree with how much it gives. I've seen games where a level 12 went down and the one who last hit was a level 8 and they jumped to level 12. Like why is so much more xp given to an underleveled Pokemon compared to say a level 12 Pokemon taking the KO. I think if under the level of your target when you nail a KO you should a slight increase to the xp they give, but not that much.
As it is, getting one KO when behind is game changing. I've had matches where the only reason I won was because I focused a high level squishy enough for our carry to secure the KO. This boosted me a level but it boosted them like 3. I've also lost games because of this mechanic. It just feels really unbalanced with more of a focus to keep players in the game rather than balance it.
You really got lucky with crits in some occasions
The metagross patch just released💀
Shedinja doll on absol is soooo broken
Overconfidence into feeding comeback exp never feels good
Can we use Drain crown or charging charm on blaziken as a 3rd item??
Not optimal but yes
Drain crown is just straight up bad though
@@Skeletonpie. I don't think its that bad(drain crown) coz most mons can't really use it
There only like 3 pokemon that can use it dragonite,azumarul,zacian
I had a 120k damage + 80k healing game with azu and I also saw cris getting 180k damage with azu he also had crown on
Thanks chris
So basically don't die
they nerfed blaze kick :(
“LET ME CHECK, ah, lame.”
When you have a shitty team then no one can win you games😢
Leafeon is very good for speedsters, use her all the time if I feel like I’m losing a lot
What set do you use for Leafeon as speedster
That's because leafeon shouldn't even count as a speedster cause it can keep a range making it an attacker with better basics but it only counts as a speedster cause of the ability making it move fast.
why leafeon is she
it is mascular tho
Comeback experience is fine, but KO timers are not. A player shouldn't be directly punished with a longer death timer for performing well.
Comeback experience isn’t bad, it just needs to be toned down a little
Speedsters are TRADE MACHINES
Its always the more u carry the team, the more dumb your team will be..always tho
Ketchup xp is good maybe needs a buff. Its only a 10min games, also speedsters are ment to be skill diff mons not neccesarily 1v9 but steam rollers. It is great to have the ability to punish bad decisions and be rewarded in a 10min MOBA. Greed is a common downfall in life
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Say whatever they are sooo fun to play , leafeon is my main
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Even though Leafeon has a strong early game. It still feels to be the most weak speedstar to me.
Thing is leafeons frickin weird it's a speedster with ranged attackers however I'd say talonflames the weakest brave bird is dependent on vision fly gives you no escape plan once jumping in and the unite is hardly ever good.leafeon can atleast spam his unite but I see him as more of an attacker ranged attacks an low mobility
You were level 13 leafeon was level 9 pretty much level 10 and he went up to level 11 after killing you seems fair.
gengar is the slowest super-fast compared to the others, the talent gives 10% speed, and all his attacks do not give you fast movement, and in itself he is inferior to most in mobility... if for Leafeon speed is needed to properly direct the solar beam, so is an enhanced attack is given with a cooldown, but with a gengar they don’t give anything at all except speed, it’s funny that a ghost without weight runs slower than living grass, because the only thing the gengar lacks is speed, well, normal aiming of attacks, and the attacks themselves are very slow, until the gengar understands that you need to throw a dream or a ball, the absolute will be behind you, and the zoroark will kill you, and the ult is generally a nightmare, it doesn’t attack instantly, making it impossible to hit running opponents
Gengar afraid of zoroark? Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of zoroark but I'm absolutely terrified when I see a gengar while I'm playing as zoroark dream eater one shots you and during final stretch he goes invisible with unite and you can't even protect yourself you get one shot by dream eater again never mind the chaos that's caused if a gengar snowballs cause resets will let him do a 2 v 5 if he gets those resets.
@@MOST-CONFIDENT Zoroark has a talent for camouflage, in addition, Zoroark is very mobile and is able to simply evade the gengar’s sleep, because the further you are from him, the harder it is for him to hit
@@OFunkYO the camouflage is useless anyone with lock on icon on will know by the fact they can target their teammate or a wild pokemon which is not a feature the only reason people use it is because it makes zoroark invincible for a 3rd of a second taking no damage and no hindrance also all it takes is gengar landing a dream eater hide in a bush and catch the zoroark walking by .
@@MOST-CONFIDENT anyway, the gengar is in many ways inferior to the zoroark, and all good players have long understood that sitting in the bushes is very bad, since the gengar will not be able to raise the level, and without a level you can’t even kill a greninja, the one speed of the zoroark allows you to evade the gengar’s sleep, and the damage itself from sleep too small to one-shot, the gengar is sooo slow, as are its attacks, so the gengar is not afraid of the Zoroark at all, it’s easy to run away from the gengar, the attacks are launched late anyway
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You got way too thirsty for kills this game lol that was the issue.
Nah I'd win
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Speedsters are not high skill characters. Most of the builds are pretty braindead to be honest.
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