@@thunderspark1536 if the Madic's Primaries and melees had alt fire that did burst healing(primaries throw medium health packs with Sandvich stats, melees are injector syringes that have a plus 63% range 20% HP heal that overheals/gives extra health and press R to self heal) as a way to encourage healing since I would also give the alt fires plus 5% uber on heal.
Replacing it with Syringe gun didn't fix the problem but just made it worse. Instead of giving a terrible gun, how about this gun could ALSO heal people? Now you have a range damage option that is still fills class's healing role even if the player forgets to press number 2. Oh whats that? crossbow exist? its actually still a bad design: WHY ALL OTHER OPTIONS ARE SO GARBAGE EXCEPT THAT 1 OVERBUFFED UNLOCK? THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS.
2:40 horrifying footage of a spy finding out that sappers don't exist as they have been replaced in function by engineer's new build-disabling EMP grenades
If you ever play Team fortress classic you know how similar it is to this and that game is actually very fun with the team play, but am glad the original and the squeal are so different.
@MariaFlores-KAII fine.. you used to post foot fetish content on UA-cam. I found you through a TF2 video and was disgusted. There you go. I’m glad you privated all of those videos because this is not the website for you to do that.
finally! im so glad more people are covering this mod, it is one of if not my favorite tf2 fan project and i think it deserves alot more attention than it has.
The idea of Scouts doing grenade jumps sounds terrifying. Imagine just minding your own business and than he just pops out of nowhere like a Hunter from Left 4 Dead.
I think a lot of their changes are good such as removing the needle gun cause honestly it kinda dont work that good on scout also making pyro not a good removing armor cause all it did was add an extra unneeded number that some other class needed and not giving medic an smg so he has to heal people
@@jknifgijdfuiArmor is good for two things. 1- Since Engineer's job is to repair armor, people actually have a good reason to play him early on when on offense. 2- Since Medic can't heal armor, it makes pocketing one person much harder. Especially when things like incendiary rockets, infection, and the gas grenade pierce through armor.
We have the option to scramble teams, but Valve disabled it for their official servers for some unknown reason. If I remember right, the auto-balance system had something to do with it because the scramble teams vote got disabled during Meat your Match while they tried to balance for competitive. Makes it seem as if someone at Valve doesn't want people to continue playing the game or something...
Also, I thought Engineer wasn't supposed to be able to build LVL 3 buildings, but at the same time you can build a LVL 3 Sentry in TFC. For TF2, Engineer wasn't originally able to build past LVL 1 and wasn't able to pick up his buildings like the Eureka Effect had on its original release. Pyro wasn't able to air-blast (Pyro needed something as an alt-fire for his flame-thrower), Heavy didn't care about his weapons at all, and Medic had some of the same weapons as Scout. I (and most people would agree) am glad they added in the Medi-gun for Medic, but a little sad he lost his shotgun from TFC.
ok but the special grenades seem so fun though Maybe not for all classes, but imagine if you could light the gas residue of the gas passer and leave an area of flames for a couple of seconds
It was pretty cool to see one of my friends, the A meisterN64, appear in this video. Also this version of TF2 is pretty cool, really cool mod from the community!
for some reason i love how the beta grenade launcher looks, it just looks way more realistic and satisfying plus there are actual visible grenades in the 6 chambers, in normal tf2 they're literally just empty holes but demo somehow still fires grenades from them
winning in TF2: You get the potential satisfaction of killing what's left of the losing team Winning in PF2: k i l l a n y o n e w h o h a s e v e r w r o n g e d y o u .
Having more multiclass weapons would be cool. If sniper scout and medic all used smg and shotgun got put on scout and maybe the bat could be used between scout and sniper
lots of what makes pre fortress 2 feel so unique is that is has a lot of features from early source games that tf2 missed out on, like the camera delaying a bit behind the viewmodel, the absoloutely absurd FOV options, like you can have 180 fov if so you choose in pre fortress 2, the very bare bones animations for the shotguns and sutff
TF2 actually does have an option to scramble teams over a vote and occasionally without a vote, but casual gameplay introduced in 2016 which replaced the ad-hoc quickplay option doesn't have that.
Some of the ideas are good enough they should be in base TF2. The Demoman remote detonated big pipe bombs would be a great alternate to the sticky launcher.
The scout cry when he dies....isn't that a generic sound xD ? Pretty good though, I guess they removed the grenades for this reason lol, and armor just became the hp bar we knows today
So I saw a video where medic has a poison grenade that heals allies. This can potentially turn the tide of a fight by itself. Weakening enemies and buffing Allie’s, giving them enough of an advantage to turn things around. I wish Valve had kept them in to an extent. Demo’s TNT might be too much of a hard counter for engineers and their sentries, though. And not enough of a counter for snipers. Sniper needs as many counters as he can get. Especially since he gets explosives here which is an extra layer of danger.
Votescramble used to be in modern TF2. Was removed at some point lol. There was also auto team scramble if the game was clearly a wipe. Now that's all relegated to community servers that have it :(
I played a lot of Team Fortress Classic before playing TF2 for the first time in 2013 and from this gameplay, the 2006 version of the game is the perfect blend of the two games. Overall, it's more enjoyable than Fortress Forever.
Just having a scramble it is already so much better than tf2 pub nowadays. What a legends that are making this mod, i am gonna try it on my old laptop, hope i can play it.
![Team Fortress 2 Classic is a Fun Trip [TF2c]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qijPAuDcVnI/mqdefault.jpg)
"I just want to use the SMG, I don't want to heal people"
and there we have the problem
wow what a coincidence
Probably why valve decided to make the syringe gun so people don't play battle medic
Sadly for them we are stupid so we made battle medic anyways
Impossible, it's almost like the syringe gun is meant to suck
@@thunderspark1536 if the Madic's Primaries and melees had alt fire that did burst healing(primaries throw medium health packs with Sandvich stats, melees are injector syringes that have a plus 63% range 20% HP heal that overheals/gives extra health and press R to self heal) as a way to encourage healing since I would also give the alt fires plus 5% uber on heal.
Replacing it with Syringe gun didn't fix the problem but just made it worse. Instead of giving a terrible gun, how about this gun could ALSO heal people?
Now you have a range damage option that is still fills class's healing role even if the player forgets to press number 2.
Oh whats that? crossbow exist? its actually still a bad design: WHY ALL OTHER OPTIONS ARE SO GARBAGE EXCEPT THAT 1 OVERBUFFED UNLOCK? THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS.
3:15
“This is something I wish we had in modern TF2”
Scramble teams was one of the features that the Meet Your Match update removed from us…
@damsen978 I've been playing since 2009. Valve servers used to allow calling a server wide vote to scramble teams.
2:40 horrifying footage of a spy finding out that sappers don't exist as they have been replaced in function by engineer's new build-disabling EMP grenades
(quite the silly misendeavor)
They do exist tho
Is that supposed to be a Beta version joke?
they are a thing, pretty sure it's the '5' key
wdym? sappers are in the game.
"I'm really liking these animations, like, like..."
*walks in on engineer spasming on the battlements.
Amazing, it's just like regular tf2, lol.
If you ever play Team fortress classic you know how similar it is to this and that game is actually very fun with the team play, but am glad the original and the squeal are so different.
Tf2c is supose to be old tf2 with some new thing and pf2 is the game with some scrap features
@Maria Flores oh yeah i miss read
@MariaFlores-KAIII was gonna say something about your channel but I changed my mind.
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@MariaFlores-KAII fine.. you used to post foot fetish content on UA-cam. I found you through a TF2 video and was disgusted. There you go. I’m glad you privated all of those videos because this is not the website for you to do that.
Watching this game is like having a dream about TF2, it’s TF2 but something’s off about it.
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Yah, there’s too many medics-
Didn’t know scout holding a shotgun would be so cursed
As much as I want Medic with an actual gun this made me realize just how OP a Battle medic could really be
I like how the second team killing is on it becomes the purge. Everyone kills everyone but the next match they act like nothing happend
I never felt scared from seeing a Medic with a Gun more than today.
tbh, enabled friendly fire during humiliation time is something i didnt know i needed
finally! im so glad more people are covering this mod, it is one of if not my favorite tf2 fan project and i think it deserves alot more attention than it has.
The idea of Scouts doing grenade jumps sounds terrifying. Imagine just minding your own business and than he just pops out of nowhere like a Hunter from Left 4 Dead.
Fr that would be so broken with Scout mains
12:33 "this game is really good" "oh yeah"
Yes
4:35 medic mains when a 124 hp lime scout takes away the health pack from them while theyre burning and at 30 hp
There is so much in the Beta I wish they kept! But I definitely understand removing the grenades.
I think a lot of their changes are good such as removing the needle gun cause honestly it kinda dont work that good on scout also making pyro not a good removing armor cause all it did was add an extra unneeded number that some other class needed and not giving medic an smg so he has to heal people
@jknifgijdfui yeah pretty much all of the changes are justified, but maybe the concussion granades could make a cool secondary for scout.
I come from the future, the Jungle Inferno Gas Passer mechanics on all grenades and mines would make them much more fair.
@@jknifgijdfuiArmor is good for two things.
1- Since Engineer's job is to repair armor, people actually have a good reason to play him early on when on offense.
2- Since Medic can't heal armor, it makes pocketing one person much harder. Especially when things like incendiary rockets, infection, and the gas grenade pierce through armor.
4:35when you hear medic say "Healing is not rewarding as hurting😈"
that friendly fire when the match ends is such a fun concept idk why they didn't keep it in the game
the TF2 announcer is obviously awesome but I love the Pre-F2 one as well. Sounds so creepy and dystopian.
It's the announcement VOX from Half-Life by the way
@@ethanbear360 I was pretty confident it was Half-life related. Sounds very cool. I've somehow never gotten round to playing the Half-Life games
@@nicorepetto5781 Half-Life 1 and 2 are gaming experiences you won't forget.
@@SPIRE_FAN ehhh
This looks really cool! I wish Scout had Handgun dual-wielding (like in Fight For Sawmill SFM) at the cost of his secondary slot.
We have the option to scramble teams, but Valve disabled it for their official servers for some unknown reason. If I remember right, the auto-balance system had something to do with it because the scramble teams vote got disabled during Meat your Match while they tried to balance for competitive. Makes it seem as if someone at Valve doesn't want people to continue playing the game or something...
Also, I thought Engineer wasn't supposed to be able to build LVL 3 buildings, but at the same time you can build a LVL 3 Sentry in TFC. For TF2, Engineer wasn't originally able to build past LVL 1 and wasn't able to pick up his buildings like the Eureka Effect had on its original release. Pyro wasn't able to air-blast (Pyro needed something as an alt-fire for his flame-thrower), Heavy didn't care about his weapons at all, and Medic had some of the same weapons as Scout. I (and most people would agree) am glad they added in the Medi-gun for Medic, but a little sad he lost his shotgun from TFC.
@@blubullie4850 Same, although something I will NOT miss is him giving the Infect status, which would be even worse with the Medigun.
ok but the special grenades seem so fun though
Maybe not for all classes, but imagine if you could light the gas residue of the gas passer and leave an area of flames for a couple of seconds
9:13 Demoman and Heavy, in TFC, shared a MIRV which was to come back for Demoman as the Dynamite, like in TF2C
i feel like the Nail gun could've been neat for an Engi pistol replacement or something.
I love how medic is just a more mad scientist instead of just a mad doctor
It was pretty cool to see one of my friends, the A meisterN64, appear in this video. Also this version of TF2 is pretty cool, really cool mod from the community!
for some reason i love how the beta grenade launcher looks, it just looks way more realistic and satisfying
plus there are actual visible grenades in the 6 chambers, in normal tf2 they're literally just empty holes but demo somehow still fires grenades from them
winning in TF2: You get the potential satisfaction of killing what's left of the losing team
Winning in PF2: k i l l a n y o n e w h o h a s e v e r w r o n g e d y o u .
Pyro’s melee is a branding iron btw
the fact that you can kill your teammates after winning a round is hilarious i hope they add it to the actual game on the coming update
Scout?i s that you?! Din't i tell you not to use the personel computer for games?!
medic having a SMG is so cool
TF2 was actually pretty much how it was at launch in 2006. I think this is closer to 2005 E3...
"Its just the Animations are so goo- (*Engineer having 4 seizures at once then proceeds to throw a grenade he doesn't have*) Hmmmmmmmmm"
YOOOOO I A HEART FROM BRICK!! Thx man! ive never got a heart from anyone above 1k subs (edit, especially a tf2 player above 1k subs)
Having more multiclass weapons would be cool. If sniper scout and medic all used smg and shotgun got put on scout and maybe the bat could be used between scout and sniper
Friendly fire at the end of the round should have stayed om TF2
This came out great man!
this is one of the funnest source mods i've played so far
it's so good in fact, that it made playing medic enjoyable
This feels like a fever dream
Rare footage of people being medic
This all feels like a weird fever dream
if you like oldschool grenade jumping you can always go on a jump server and bind +conc to any key
i do wish that we get grenades again, even if we carry only 1 nade to prevent spam. Having them makes the game more interesting
lots of what makes pre fortress 2 feel so unique is that is has a lot of features from early source games that tf2 missed out on, like the camera delaying a bit behind the viewmodel, the absoloutely absurd FOV options, like you can have 180 fov if so you choose in pre fortress 2, the very bare bones animations for the shotguns and sutff
I’m gonna miss back when the mod was just 2006 tf2 and not a mixture of both 2006 and 2007 tf2.
Brickiest brick saying pússy sounds like he was waiting for his whole youtuber career
Pre fortress 2 is beta team fortress classic but no polygons
Valve should really consider adding some of these items back into the game
Brick is going Yee-Haw with Pre-Fortress 2's Grenades
TF2 actually does have an option to scramble teams over a vote and occasionally without a vote, but casual gameplay introduced in 2016 which replaced the ad-hoc quickplay option doesn't have that.
Some of the ideas are good enough they should be in base TF2. The Demoman remote detonated big pipe bombs would be a great alternate to the sticky launcher.
The scout cry when he dies....isn't that a generic sound xD ?
Pretty good though, I guess they removed the grenades for this reason lol, and armor just became the hp bar we knows today
2:21 Scout's original ones were frag and concussion grenades. the beartraps are likely a reference to Scout's caltrops from tfc
That map not 2 fort brought me back 15 years holy hell
So I saw a video where medic has a poison grenade that heals allies. This can potentially turn the tide of a fight by itself. Weakening enemies and buffing Allie’s, giving them enough of an advantage to turn things around. I wish Valve had kept them in to an extent. Demo’s TNT might be too much of a hard counter for engineers and their sentries, though. And not enough of a counter for snipers. Sniper needs as many counters as he can get. Especially since he gets explosives here which is an extra layer of danger.
1:01 In TFC, that's what the button was. F for primary grenade and g for secondary grenade.
They should have kept the different gadgets and grenades and many of the weapons
Votescramble used to be in modern TF2. Was removed at some point lol. There was also auto team scramble if the game was clearly a wipe. Now that's all relegated to community servers that have it :(
-medic has a gun
-run.
unpopular opinion: the beta outfits of the mercs look much better than the final
The friendly fire on end of round took me back to the days when TF2 officially hosted Arena servers. Man I miss Arena mode
you sound like a mix between jerma and scout when you talk
basically you sound like a mix between scout and scout
Lol all I hear is scout explaining the mod
Am I witnessing a spiritual incarnation of Jerma985's career? The "Brickest Brick" in five years may become a PSYCHO STREAMER one day.
I like how they put random stock screams in the original game trailers so we don't know how the classes sound like
No brick can be brickier than the brickiest brick
Brickiest brick is returning to cement (or some stuff bricks are made off).
i've never seen so many people wanting to play medic
I CANNOT believe, that I have been watching brickiest brick for like a year, and forgot to subscribe.
hey mister brickest brick you got me to play scout a while back so thank you
I hope they remake the TFC map "Rock2"...one of my favs!! Also will medic be able to infect the enemy team with his medpack??
Battle medic is actually viable choice in pre-fortress?
*GUYS! Gather up! It's blitzkrieg time!*
the ui showing where the intels are at feels like a giant improvement (atleast for me)
I played a lot of Team Fortress Classic before playing TF2 for the first time in 2013 and from this gameplay, the 2006 version of the game is the perfect blend of the two games.
Overall, it's more enjoyable than Fortress Forever.
Ngl brick sounds like the scout if he was punched in the balls the opposite way
Brickiest Brick I will never forgive you for murdering me on that PF2 server. Raaah.
pre-fortress 2 will never be the same, no servers, no players, if there are players they all leave after 5 mins.
He should make another video, it will maybe bring it back a little bit
Team fortress 1.5 still up for grabs
That's taken by both TFC and a different sourcemod 💀
if this was the tf2 we almost gotten there would be alot of medic mains
Medic looks like some guy named Leroy
Soldier looks like some guy named Harold
Didn’t think I would see a Typical colors 2 ( Roblox TF2) map in this!
This needs to be an alternative game mode in the main game
Soldier’s beta outfit looks like he got ported over from Day Of Defeat
5:35 "Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting."
I am now starting to have the nostalgic feeling of this mod
I've been playing tf2 mods more than the original
POV: You time traveled to 2006 and played TF2
Now all we need is a recreation of the cancelled valve game: Team fortress 2 brotherhood of arms
ist it me or does this guy sound like a teenage scout
Just having a scramble it is already so much better than tf2 pub nowadays.
What a legends that are making this mod, i am gonna try it on my old laptop, hope i can play it.
do you know that pyro lost airblast but now he can rocket jump whit his fire rockets
You can use knife as scout bacj stab and also by holding m2 you can do dash intk air
Some maps like that he's grenade jumping on is actually in a roblox game called typical colors 2
Beta Soldier makes me scared and he confuses me
Oh yea they removed airblast,there are incendiary rockets now
Id wish they added boss support, maybe we’ll get it in the future
Battle Medic but like, unironically
you sound like scout trying to do a homestar runner impersonation
damn last time i played this sourcemod there was only one guy online in a dustbowl server
2:54 look ma I'm famous
Me too