Personal Reflections on a Sacred Text - Iain McGilchrist and Shira Nayman
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2022
- Shira Nayman Psy.D talks to Iain McGilchrist about the sacred.
This interview is part of a larger interfaith project exploring personal relationships with sacred texts. Shira Nayman interviews scholars, religious leaders, and lay people, across a variety of faith traditions, exploring the ways in which a specific, sacred text has had a significant impact on their lives.
Shira Nayman, Psy.D. is a psychologist and author (Awake in the Dark and other books)
www.shiranayman.com
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God be in my head, and in my understanding;
God be in my eyes, and in my looking;
God be in my mouth, and in my speaking;
God be in my heart, and in my thinking;
God be at my end, and at my departing.
How about 'God be at my new beginning, before my end in this flesh. The beginning and the anew, - even beyond the physical aspect of my temporal materially embodied being' in the flesh' - into the transcendent realm of mind and time eternal.' ? There is a beginning and end to each wire or rope, but how about eternal life? Something that was, before your fetus evolved within the darkness of thy mothers womb by her ovary fertilized by the celestial seed of thy father. A primordial being of those who came before you of which that cosmic being caused the conception of your fetus before your parents even lay upon the weeding bed. A life force eternal to transfer through you and will continue to be after your maturing material fetus dies of old age, or premature death due to the wages of collective wickedness and the willful ignorance of narcissistic carelessness (sin)?
Oh my giddy aunt do I appreciate McGilchrist. Please God let more and more folk begin to find him for themselves.
Have listened to this twice ( here in the Southwest Mountain District of Virginia) and will be listening a third time tomorrow. What a warm, rich, inspiring conversation. I wish I could give to others what you both have given to me. I send my deepest gratitude.
"I wanted the kind of philosophy that had room for God in it and the kind of theology that had room for philosophy" ............spot on! thank you!
Thanks Iain for sharing your education experiance, a lovely story of success, I love it, I'm happy for you! I tryed myself, but my dyslexi and personal problems, came in my way. I started with metallurgy, then geology, medicin and arthistory. Actualy to fight my dyslexy, why not take academic degrees in the process. The human brain and philosophy I studied on the side........ By the way I'm waitting for your latest books from Amazon. Thanks again!
I heard the other day someone say "Resistance is Fertile" and you know, it really is in the long run. This was a great conversation. I grew up in the UK and my parent, like Iain's father but in this case it was my Mother, wasn't religious in any obvious sense and I wasn't privileged to have any formal education but Life itself has taught me SO MUCH and my biggest thing, certainly that I am learning now, is GRATITUDE for every last thing I DO have. Since 2020 I have had to do a Kama Loca, or whatever they call it, as in a backward review of my current lifetime whilst IN it and not waiting for 'Death' and the 'replay' I will doubtless get that they talk about if you believe in re-incarnation, which I most certainly DO. Nothing we do is wasted. No thought, no time we take to understand things. Nothing. Everything IS a miracle and if we look at Life in this way, there is always deep satisfaction. This conversation had me thinking a lot about things as you can see. Thank you both.
Lots of gratitude for the two so simple but so beautiful prayers.
Yes Indeed
I have so much regard for Iain McGilchrist. He reminds me of my now- deceased Zen master in Canada.
_The Master and His Emissary_ was a great strengthening of my faith. This conversation has also been.
_Andrei Rublev_ is one of my favorite films too.
"For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things."
A gift to the world I speak your name
In many conversations ...peace for you Iain .👍
How wonderful it was to learn more about this exceptional man's early life experiences and how they helped to shape who he is today.
Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for the willingness to at least attempt to engage people like myself, who for all intents and purposes you have not met, on such an intimate subject...very brave and generous of you
I love Iain McGilchrist.❤️ Really hoping to meet him one day..
Likewise lol
That Dietrich translation is ‘awesome’. You’re a poet good sir!
So. Much peaceful gratitude.
Possibly the greatest conversation Iain had that's out there on YT: it's so heart-warming to see him open up about his school memories and music he loves, without the pressure to explain the hemispheres as it were from scratch. Shira was such an attentive listener, going beyond just asking about his work. And the tiny laugh at the end!
P.553 Jung's Red Book (readers' edition) at the end of the Seven Sermons to the Dead:
Then the shade [vision of Christ] said ". . . do you know what I bring you?"
"This I know not," Philemon answered. "I know only one thing, that whoever hosts the worm also needs his brother. What do you bring me my beautiful guest? Lamentation and abomination were the gift of the worm. What will you give us?"
The shade answered, "I bring you the beauty of suffering. That is what is needed by whoever hosts the worm."
A wonderful conversation.
Thank you for the prayers ❤
A prayer I can't forget, in meaning - but now not the actual title (help me out here) is a great poem by e.e. cummings; the last line is, "forgetting me, remember me."
Haunting. . .
Beautiful prayer🙏
"When the Buddha Comes to Sussex" (English title - he was but a simple, wise man). An old and low-quality video on UA-cam that records Ajahn Chah (a famous venerable Thai forest monk) helping to set up monasteries in the West (with much British resignation, now past). Why? He ran out of room with all the Western people coming to stay at his Thai monastery set up specifically for English speakers. He argued, surely you have kind people where you come from. There are now monasteries under his lineage throughout the developed world. They had to postpone his funeral for fear of people's safety, but once logistics were finalised more than a million people attended. My English psychotherapist was somewhat shocked to hear me speak of this as he actually heard of the controversy when he was a child growing up and knew of the first monastery built in Britain. Ajahn Sumedo, Ajahn Chah's first English disciple, is now retired but still, the head of the order for English speakers is currently in England after spending the rains retreat there.
Lovely people. God bless all 🙏
I miss choral experience. I miss harmony. My life is one of monophony. I do a 90 second vocalese for my outgoing(sic) message for my phone. I still do not have a cell phone. Everyone else does. So it follows one, like or not. I am addicted to my computer interface. The same one which delivers this. Thank you for being an unwilling mystic. The opposite of who you are is where the gold is buried. Shadows and dreams(sic) abundant visions: the guide to escape transcendence or perdition of our soul journey.
Iain, in my experiance, Beetoven, often had a "story" from his dramatic life in his music, I learnt this from my DVD collection among drama, music, art and other things.
Thank you
I was born near Vierzehnheiligen and try to go up there every time I visit family, it's always been my favourite basilica.
What happened to the first version of this video that was uploaded yesterday? Was some part cut from that version?
No idea, friend. Glad to see others on the lookout too, though. Eg. 'shadow banning', hidden comments etc. Stay awake.
Don't fall down now I have a tenner on you...
Is it possible to edit this. I’d love to have two short readings of the prayers.
The fruition of John 9:39 springs to mind
39 Jesus said,[a] “For judgment I have come into this
world, so that the blind will see and those who see
will become blind.”
Consider that there are no «dark night of the ego», not «the soul». If soul were inflicted with «stuff» then there wouldn’t be a safe Home inside.
If one gives too much credit to the sense of self, one makes it real ❤
I am not the soul, but I bow down and surrender, because that’s how soul gets a physical pulse and I recive firm guidance from truth ❤
I can't remember the cinema name I saw Solaris in an art house in Nottinghill Gate
You are right onecof the best movies ever
🤔Thank you
As to Andrei Rublev, yes an important film but the image of brutalities (epecially the blinding of the artisans) does not encourage repeated viewings. Unlike Stalker or The Mirror or Solaris (all during his Soviet time) or even his later films.
I found the suffering of the horses much harder to take - for that was real...
51:42 Deitrich Boenhoffer’s Prayer
Thank you for writing his name down
God speak to me , how many moments in past have I said that ...brilliant 😂
I’m about to dig into The Master and his Emissary and got caught up in talks on UA-cam. I wonder if Lain was familiar with Dominic Crossan’s work on The Kingdom of God teaching in the New Testament and his other writings.
"Man is earth that suffers." Barnabas 6:9
Dr McGilchrist has said that The Matter with Things might be his last great work; however, I think it would be truly wonderful if he were to write a book on Dante’s Commedia, integrating his profound and vast neurological, philosophical and scientific understanding with Dante’s vision. Interestingly, it was Boccaccio, who named it the Divine Comedy. It was known as El Dante in Dante’s own time.
I think Mark Vernon did a great job as a guide for Dante's Divine Comedy
Listening to Ian thoughtfully as Amazonian rainclouds push in over our central Andean mountains.
Storming thunder and pattering rain wash my beloved chirimoya, ficus, and palm tree friends.
Contentedly they wave into the breezy rain, perking up to peak out of this centenarian flagstoned court that contains these noble trees pretending to be a giant flowerpot.
Reaching up to the mossy ceramic tiles, as if yearning to take a peak at their next door neighbor, Cochabamba's Cathedral Tower, they wave and laugh as the maturing adolescent trees they are.
Chiming in to Ian's scholarly baritone voice the Church, Christ, the gloomy happy blue, grey, and white-fleeced sky and its pasturing creatures bring drips and drops of C.S.Lewis, Niebuhr, Heraclitus, the notes of Bach, and a host of other sounds and emotions of pain and love, of suffering, redemption, and peace into our remote Andean valley.
From far across the Atlantic and flowing ove the Amazon and the Andes, sunshine, rainfall, stormy skies, and light-soaked clouds swhirl words and emotions and laughter and yearning into sound and form and meaning and love.
Truth plays. Sun shines. Love loves. Source is Present. The rain stops. The grey clouds melt into sundrops. The greatest of shows -- of light, life, love, and laughter -- flows on . . .
Ah! The Embodied Truth. Almighty God in his works of love!! Thanks for the sentiments.
A fascinating subject matter, slightly spoiled by poor sound quality on this particular video. Divine all the same.
Yes, sound distorted for this precious, rich treasure of a conversation.
Try
08:00 could this woman be any more rude?
It's like she's not listening, or heard, what was just said. Like it was just any words passing by. When in fact they were some of Ian's most intimate and sacred words.
Fully agree with both comments. I only watched about 20 min so far. This lady is not only rude but also don’t know how to interact with Iain. Plus she is like a zombie interviewer.
@@marka2188 Yup. She's not all bad as the video goes on. It might be attributable to nerves or trying to hard not to show them.
I think Iain plays a subtle counteract when she urges him to continue but he gently insists that she speak first.
If I'm right then I've seen the great man perform the same against a slightly vindictive Jordan Peterson.
I am as equally impressed by Iain's tact and humanity as by his incredible academics.
@@Boylieboyle thank you for encouraging me to continue listening.
As you said Iain’s prayer is very deep, simple and beautiful. This simple (sounding) prayer covers all spirituality that there is assuming it is realized not understood.
@@marka2188 You're welcome friend. I think you're right about those prayers aswell.
There is no god and jesus christ is his only son....
Please more focus on the sacred and less on the author’s perignations. Not that they aren’t important but needs to be relevant.
His insistence on putting films in different LEAGUES makes my soul puke. what a left hemisphere man... Art is not your department store, nor a baseball game. It is actual people's lives and sweat and toil and blood and soul. I know that Tarkovsky's films are sublime, and he almost makes me think they are boring. Teacher leave us kids alone (my prayer to ward off the desiccated ghosts of boredom from the eternal life of the soul)