great review - thanks. I invested in this system around 4-5 months ago and whilst it doesn't have the "brand kudos" that nest/tado has, it's a system that works well when you've figured out how to schedule each thermostat/room. It's worth mentioning that you can completely remove the room thermostat from the system (which I have done). So the system purely works off the TRV's, and I find that the TRV's cope very well in regulating the temperature.
I have just fitted the system. It was easy to install, and it is performing well with 9 smart TRVs. Only issue is the battery life on the TRVs. I got excellent support from the Wiser team. Recommended.
Had the Wiser system for 6 months now. Easy to setup, very reliable with no disconnections from the Hub. As you said, these systems are more a luxury than a money saver as purchase costs are very high. My wife and I live in a detached 4 bed house. For rooms we rarely use I have kept the manual TRV's, keep these rooms doors shut night times and installed the smart TRV's in the kitchen/diner and lounge. Our house in now very comfortable in our living areas. If we find the lounge a bit chilly the App is brill for boasting the heating. One day I may invest in TRV's in all rooms so I have complete zonal heating control.
I have the exact same boiler as you in a previous house. I installed a Honeywell Evohome and not had half the issues you’ve had. In my current house, I have Evohome again, and this time I have UFH and use Opentherm too which as you’re aware the Potterton doesn’t support. My current boiler Ideal Vogue Gen 2 S15 and the Evohome I can lower the output temp to maximise condensing whilst maintaining a temperature of 65°C for HW. You’re probably aware ASHPs run on very low temps, and so I’ve managed to lower my heating output temp to 35°C output which coupled with UFH ensures comfort with maximised condensing efficiency. This will put me in good stead for when I’m ready for ASHP.
Nice comparison, but sound a bit difficult here, either try a close mic or a room with less hard finishes for recording! Are you finding the trv temps fairly accurate given they are right near the rads themselves? Or have you added more roomstats?
The filming is done in the most appropriate room with the tools that I have the ability to own. Unfortunately I don’t have a mic. The TRV temps are very accurate and no issues or need to add any more thermostats. We have a temperature gauge in our little boys room and it is identical.
Have you seen Home Assistant? It looks like it has a good Wiser integration and means you don't need different apps for every different brand. Everything is in one place
Thanks for the review. Think the Drayton Wiser system is very competitively priced against other similar solutions though? Nest is just one smart thermostat. If you have the Drayton Wiser smart rad valves on 11 radiators then you have 11 smart thermostats + the other smart thermostat box. 👍😊 I've never had a smart thermostat product before but I'm getting my Dryton Wiser system installed today so fingers crossed it will be useful. 🤞
Yes thats very true. I can only give a comparison on what I have experienced, and having compared Nest to Drayton and viewing my last 2 years energy consumption which is near on the same. For me, as explained the benefits are not the savings, its the system itself and how it heats the home. It will be useful and from my experience work great.
Great review - i'm moving to a property with an LPG system (which costs almost 3 x times the price of mains gas), and i got the kit 1 with 2 x valves for £110 plus i have bought another 7 for a total of £280 plus 2 x smart plugs for another £80 - so all in for less than £500, so i think will be pretty cost effective over a much shorter timeframe than yours - coming from a 1980's TRV-less system, this should make a massive difference to heating costs and comfort levels!
Thankyou, on reviewing our figures more recently with all the current prices. I estimate with Drayton we are around 20% less usage than Nest. Im yet to do a full accurate review but on a brief look I think thats where we are
@@DIYJourney1 That's a phenomenal saving - i had a NEST system at the last house, but of course, getting the children to remember to manually adjust the TRV's when they left for school was impossible (if i'm honest, as was my remembering to do it for them by the time i got back from the school run) - so wasted effort heating their rooms because i was working from home was always a concern.
Quite a bit: - It learns your heating characteristics of the house. - Away mode built in so not wasting energy when not home, -integration with smoke alarms so cuts boiler if it senses carbon monoxide, - heats hot water periodically to prevent legionella. So wouldn’t say it is overpriced but in comparison drayton, id say is a cheaper more suitable option for a small home or a home with dual zones.
Fab review coming up to around 8/9 months with mine, still doing some fine tuning but overall happy. I was advised that Geofencing was in a 3-6 month roadmap which we are now about 4 months in on. Hope it comes soon.
3 years in and I find it pretty easy to use both (with our system boiler) at the thermostat and alos the app don't bother with smart TRVs. However its connectivity has been patchy since I moved to a Vodafone router from the previous BT one.
Did you do a comparison on KwH or £? Seen a comment where you said the bill cost was near identical but rates have gone up loads. Also worth noting that whether the system is cheaper than Nest will depend on how many radiators you convert.
Both Kwh and £ as that for me is easy accessible data from the app. Id hope that is fairly common sense that the more radiators it costs more. But nest is £200 and the starter kit if I remember correctly was around that maybe more at the tome. each thermostat is £40, so becomes expensive for not lots of gain if any. Please appreciate this video is based on my house and my experience
@@DIYJourney1 the Wiser, without valves is £140. So much cheaper like for like than Nest - it would be interesting to know how the base thermostat compares to Nest. If Nest brimg out TRVs in the future I expect they'll be more expensive that Drayton. If Nest performs similarly to the whole Wiser system I may need to re-evaluate if I'm going to want a smart TRV system
Also worth noting is that if the internet fails this system will continue to work when your at home. When out of the house it can be controlled from anywhere in the world. If all rads have a smart valve you don’t actually need the central controller at all
Good review, I've watched both of your videos I understand your trying to give as much information as possible but sometimes less is more. If nest did TRV they would be on the higher end of the market but would be less reliable considering the amount of heat links that are being replaced because they stop working. One other point your boiler the powermax, was not the best boiler when it came out and definitely will need replacing in the future. Due to the fact it's 16-17 year old
Thank you for the note. I can only base everything on my experiences and facts. Prior to this id had Nest for 7 years, never had a heat link issue but have heard they do go faulty but have also heard Nest are quick to resolve when it happens. As for the point on the boiler, Iv had many mixed comments, some saying they were great, some saying they are terrible. To be honest all I care is that it heats the house which is does fine and the Baxi maintenance plan looks after the servicing and parts. The boiler is 13 years old, and like any boiler I am expecting to replace it at some point in the bear future.
One thing to note on cost comparison you mentioned a new arrival 6 months ago speaking from experience when that happens you generally spend a lot more time home so comparing the usage to nest is very hard other than that great review
That is a statement specific to your experience and can be different for many people. I do feel this is a very direct comparison, as we have both been working from home since March 2020, so home usage has not changed at all.
Geofencing in their own app is something they are working on (I left a review saying that lack of coherent geofencing was a big minus point and they replied saying it was one of main points they were working on)
That is really good to hear. I am now actually using the IFTTT method and although it works, its very poor, particularly if I go out, and the wife is in then it goes in to away mode still
@@DIYJourney1 it used to work better but via a 3rd party widget thingy (other thermostats and smart devices used it as well but it pulled out of IFTTT and left everyone scrambling) I'm hopeful that Wiser will keep improving and adding to the system as I like it, it's simple to use and install. (I'm a heating engineer) Nest heat links keep failing, REALLY good customer service but still they keep failing and that leaves people without heat when it happens and the heat link is fiddly to wire I. Awkward places.
Yes totally agree with you. Although I am a huge Nest fan and to be honest never had any issues. I feel Nest isn’t a heating company with the expertise, whereas drayton/schneider are with the technical back up.
I have a Nest and very surprised that they have not yet got something like this as the nest with smart TRV's would make a perfect system - even the ability to pair extra room stats would help but nest insist on the One stat for the whole house route. I am now dumping nest and have ordered this - hopefully it will be a worthwhile upgrade - I agree with you ref the look of it though V cheap looking and you have to poke the stat to get the display to show. The ability to wire it and have it display all the time would help.
I wish you all luck with this. I've just installed 10 of them using the Opentherm connection to my new Baxi 800 combi.....and I'm probaly going top have to remove them. The issue is with the two devices that DON'T have TRVs on them: namely the rad in the hall (where my Nest was originally) and a heated towel rail in the bathroom (that don't have TRVs anyway). When the system calls for heat for one or two rads, these other two make a heck of a noise and get super hot. The noise is apparently water under pressure, so it's like running water. I think it's more like the sound you get when you switch your kettle on. According to my plumber it's because these smart systems don't take into consideration the fact that the boiler cannot vary it's pump speed (I have a new Baxi 800 combni fitted last November). In a conventional set up you would generally have most rads open, so most of the volume in the sytem is available and the pump speed copes with that. In these new setups only one or two rads may be open so consequently the volume in the system is much lower, but the pump is at the same spped and thus th rushing water noise.....or something like that. I'm no expert as you can tell! Anyhoo, apart from the noise the hall and bathroom end up at aorund 24 degres when the highest zone demand is 20! Admittedly the rad affected is an older single panel so I could change it and put a TRV on it, but apart from the extra expense I thought you still needed to have at least one rad without a TRV for overrun and I'm not sure the towel rail can serve that purpose. Probably time to cut my losses and go back to the traditional set up.
The two rads that make noise, sounds like they need balancing. On one side of the rad close the lock shield partially. Ideally you should be looking for 20 deg difference between flow & return across the rads. Hope that's of help to you.
Did you manage to solve this? I am just about to install the same system, did you have problems with the hot water temperature on the taps using opentherm? I did read about some compatibility issues with baxi and wiser. Many thanks.
I had a similar issue with my system 11 rads with 10 Wiser TRV’s and 6 Wiser Wall Stats. The bathroom rad has a “manual” TRV set to fully open. The system was installed in December 2021 and I flushed all the rads and fitted new valves I also experienced noise when only one rad TRV opened up (cavitation thru the valve i suspect). I found a great improvement when I dropped the system temp from 70 to 65 degrees.( This seems to work ok so will drop to try 60 degrees later) The noise of water flowing is louder when the Bathroom rad is the only one in circuit but this could be the TRV starting to close when the bathroom gets warm. The system level noise drops when two or more TRV’s open up The fixed pump speed is a problem! The engineer who serviced the boiler in December also suggested fitting a external automatic bypass in the system. I will be fitting this in the spring when the weather warms up! I am really please with the system. It is connected to the electric and gas meters so the insights+ lets me monitor usage and helps me tune the system as the weather changes. 2022 had the lowest gas and electric usage over the last 6 years - and this includes an extension 4 years ago which added 30sq Metres and 4 rads to the house! The only down side for me was that my Valliant boiler doesnt have Opentherm so control is switched 240volts
It would have been useful to have more detail about the issues you had with learning the app, and may show using it, since that is the main way to interact with the system
Thankyou, any furture videos I will try show this. Other than showing how to boost each room and raise/lower temperature that is about as interactive as it gets. You can set a schedule for each room but that is a one time event. I would like to see hours each room uses and when in a simple form like the Nest does.
I would say that the Wiser could make your running costs significantly lower than Nest depending on personal circumstances……a lot of people working from home these days…..I don’t, but if I did and I was in my at home office all day I could heat that one room independently all day with Wiser…..if I’m at home and crank up the Nest it’s going to heat 11 rads rather than one so the boiler is going to burn significantly more gas during a working day, Wiser wins hands down !
Iv worked from home for the last 2 years and our gas bill over for the last 2 years are near on identical. 1 year being Nest, 1 year being Wiser, so I can only comment on the facts of that. I am seeing saving now with a balanced return to the office and finally getting the complicated away mode working automatically.
@@DIYJourney1 I can only assume then that when you work from home you’re heating more than just the one room or zone ? Whereas I’m a skinflint and would only heat my office and would be prepared to suffer a cold bathroom for two minutes when I need a pee lol and a cold kitchen whilst I make my lunch before taking it back to my nice warm office to eat 😁
I assume you may not have this system. What I have found with it, in certain rooms it is not worth having sensors in them, as due to the rapid drop in temperature you will find that room constantly calling for heat. Thus defeating the objective of the system. I have found it to be much more beneficial to have a normal trv in this instance, such rooms as our entrance hall and downstairs wc.
@@DIYJourney1 Ssme as yourself I went from Nest to Wiser…..I’ve not experienced the temperature drop scenario you’ve experienced and I’m trying to think why that would be. One thing I have found is that I have to rethink temperatures as nest takes its reading at chest height whereas the smart trvs are down on the floor where it’s cooler
I have worked from home for nearly two years and I'm hoping to save heating other rooms in the house whilst wife and kids are out most of the day. I think the call for heat function per smart rad valve is a neat feature too. I'm also hoping that once I get used to the system/room temps, I can really dialed in to personal circumstances.
I don't get how you haven't saved over using a Nest. A properly configured multi-zone system heating only the required rooms at the required times should outdo a single zone thermostat hands down. Are you just running it like it was a single zone system? If so, that totally misses the point of it.
What would be the point of installing a multi zone system if not going to use it as such…of course we are using it as a multi zone system. Maybe its the size of system, size of rooms, but with the zones being required and all fed from 1 central feed that runs through the whole home, you still require to turn the boiler on for a period of time for one room, Im not seeing a reduction in gas usage (looking at kwh not monetry). Nest was a thermostat in one central area that was not considering top floor or extremity room, maybe where as now it does, so inadvertently more control requiring more heat at times they wouldn’t of normally heated. I don’t know the answer why, I am experimenting still but said, I believe it is a luxury than a money saving tools over and above normal smart thermostats, as our rooms are at a much better temperature now.
Actually that wont work - the Drayton system doesn't use WiFi except to download updates from App alterations, the extenders are to extend the range of it's proprietary Zigbee network, so only the Wiser smart plugs will act as range extenders
great review - thanks. I invested in this system around 4-5 months ago and whilst it doesn't have the "brand kudos" that nest/tado has, it's a system that works well when you've figured out how to schedule each thermostat/room.
It's worth mentioning that you can completely remove the room thermostat from the system (which I have done). So the system purely works off the TRV's, and I find that the TRV's cope very well in regulating the temperature.
Tado is overrated. I have both.
I have just fitted the system. It was easy to install, and it is performing well with 9 smart TRVs. Only issue is the battery life on the TRVs. I got excellent support from the Wiser team. Recommended.
Had the Wiser system for 6 months now. Easy to setup, very reliable with no disconnections from the Hub. As you said, these systems are more a luxury than a money saver as purchase costs are very high. My wife and I live in a detached 4 bed house. For rooms we rarely use I have kept the manual TRV's, keep these rooms doors shut night times and installed the smart TRV's in the kitchen/diner and lounge. Our house in now very comfortable in our living areas. If we find the lounge a bit chilly the App is brill for boasting the heating. One day I may invest in TRV's in all rooms so I have complete zonal heating control.
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
I have the exact same boiler as you in a previous house. I installed a Honeywell Evohome and not had half the issues you’ve had. In my current house, I have Evohome again, and this time I have UFH and use Opentherm too which as you’re aware the Potterton doesn’t support. My current boiler Ideal Vogue Gen 2 S15 and the Evohome I can lower the output temp to maximise condensing whilst maintaining a temperature of 65°C for HW. You’re probably aware ASHPs run on very low temps, and so I’ve managed to lower my heating output temp to 35°C output which coupled with UFH ensures comfort with maximised condensing efficiency. This will put me in good stead for when I’m ready for ASHP.
Nice comparison, but sound a bit difficult here, either try a close mic or a room with less hard finishes for recording!
Are you finding the trv temps fairly accurate given they are right near the rads themselves? Or have you added more roomstats?
The filming is done in the most appropriate room with the tools that I have the ability to own. Unfortunately I don’t have a mic.
The TRV temps are very accurate and no issues or need to add any more thermostats. We have a temperature gauge in our little boys room and it is identical.
Have you seen Home Assistant? It looks like it has a good Wiser integration and means you don't need different apps for every different brand. Everything is in one place
Thanks for the review. Think the Drayton Wiser system is very competitively priced against other similar solutions though? Nest is just one smart thermostat. If you have the Drayton Wiser smart rad valves on 11 radiators then you have 11 smart thermostats + the other smart thermostat box. 👍😊
I've never had a smart thermostat product before but I'm getting my Dryton Wiser system installed today so fingers crossed it will be useful. 🤞
Yes thats very true. I can only give a comparison on what I have experienced, and having compared Nest to Drayton and viewing my last 2 years energy consumption which is near on the same. For me, as explained the benefits are not the savings, its the system itself and how it heats the home.
It will be useful and from my experience work great.
Great review - i'm moving to a property with an LPG system (which costs almost 3 x times the price of mains gas), and i got the kit 1 with 2 x valves for £110 plus i have bought another 7 for a total of £280 plus 2 x smart plugs for another £80 - so all in for less than £500, so i think will be pretty cost effective over a much shorter timeframe than yours - coming from a 1980's TRV-less system, this should make a massive difference to heating costs and comfort levels!
Thankyou, on reviewing our figures more recently with all the current prices. I estimate with Drayton we are around 20% less usage than Nest. Im yet to do a full accurate review but on a brief look I think thats where we are
@@DIYJourney1 That's a phenomenal saving - i had a NEST system at the last house, but of course, getting the children to remember to manually adjust the TRV's when they left for school was impossible (if i'm honest, as was my remembering to do it for them by the time i got back from the school run) - so wasted effort heating their rooms because i was working from home was always a concern.
Nest might look nice, but what does it do? It doesn't have any radiator valves - it's just a single (overpriced) whole-house room thermostat (right?)
Quite a bit:
- It learns your heating characteristics of the house.
- Away mode built in so not wasting energy when not home,
-integration with smoke alarms so cuts boiler if it senses carbon monoxide,
- heats hot water periodically to prevent legionella.
So wouldn’t say it is overpriced but in comparison drayton, id say is a cheaper more suitable option for a small home or a home with dual zones.
Good honest review! I wish Nest would do TRVs to add in. The home/away feature is really handy... not so much now people are working from home more.
Thank you.
Thats very true and probably why we have been a little lazy in looking to set it up.
Fab review coming up to around 8/9 months with mine, still doing some fine tuning but overall happy.
I was advised that Geofencing was in a 3-6 month roadmap which we are now about 4 months in on. Hope it comes soon.
Thats great to hear, seem to be on a similar thoughts.
Thats good to hear that it could be coming.
3 years in and I find it pretty easy to use both (with our system boiler) at the thermostat and alos the app don't bother with smart TRVs. However its connectivity has been patchy since I moved to a Vodafone router from the previous BT one.
thanks for he honest opion
Did you do a comparison on KwH or £? Seen a comment where you said the bill cost was near identical but rates have gone up loads.
Also worth noting that whether the system is cheaper than Nest will depend on how many radiators you convert.
Both Kwh and £ as that for me is easy accessible data from the app.
Id hope that is fairly common sense that the more radiators it costs more. But nest is £200 and the starter kit if I remember correctly was around that maybe more at the tome. each thermostat is £40, so becomes expensive for not lots of gain if any. Please appreciate this video is based on my house and my experience
@@DIYJourney1 the Wiser, without valves is £140. So much cheaper like for like than Nest - it would be interesting to know how the base thermostat compares to Nest.
If Nest brimg out TRVs in the future I expect they'll be more expensive that Drayton.
If Nest performs similarly to the whole Wiser system I may need to re-evaluate if I'm going to want a smart TRV system
Then add in the cost of replacement batteries every year also.
@@DIYJourney1 or just buy some £5 rechargeable?
Also worth noting is that if the internet fails this system will continue to work when your at home. When out of the house it can be controlled from anywhere in the world. If all rads have a smart valve you don’t actually need the central controller at all
This was my 12 month review, but yes thats is what happens when internet fails. It resorts to a normal system
Really helpful to know. Living somewhere with patchy internet this was my biggest concern.
Good review, I've watched both of your videos I understand your trying to give as much information as possible but sometimes less is more.
If nest did TRV they would be on the higher end of the market but would be less reliable considering the amount of heat links that are being replaced because they stop working. One other point your boiler the powermax, was not the best boiler when it came out and definitely will need replacing in the future. Due to the fact it's 16-17 year old
Thank you for the note. I can only base everything on my experiences and facts.
Prior to this id had Nest for 7 years, never had a heat link issue but have heard they do go faulty but have also heard Nest are quick to resolve when it happens.
As for the point on the boiler, Iv had many mixed comments, some saying they were great, some saying they are terrible. To be honest all I care is that it heats the house which is does fine and the Baxi maintenance plan looks after the servicing and parts. The boiler is 13 years old, and like any boiler I am expecting to replace it at some point in the bear future.
One thing to note on cost comparison you mentioned a new arrival 6 months ago speaking from experience when that happens you generally spend a lot more time home so comparing the usage to nest is very hard other than that great review
That is a statement specific to your experience and can be different for many people. I do feel this is a very direct comparison, as we have both been working from home since March 2020, so home usage has not changed at all.
Geofencing in their own app is something they are working on (I left a review saying that lack of coherent geofencing was a big minus point and they replied saying it was one of main points they were working on)
That is really good to hear. I am now actually using the IFTTT method and although it works, its very poor, particularly if I go out, and the wife is in then it goes in to away mode still
@@DIYJourney1 it used to work better but via a 3rd party widget thingy (other thermostats and smart devices used it as well but it pulled out of IFTTT and left everyone scrambling)
I'm hopeful that Wiser will keep improving and adding to the system as I like it, it's simple to use and install. (I'm a heating engineer) Nest heat links keep failing, REALLY good customer service but still they keep failing and that leaves people without heat when it happens and the heat link is fiddly to wire I. Awkward places.
Yes totally agree with you. Although I am a huge Nest fan and to be honest never had any issues. I feel Nest isn’t a heating company with the expertise, whereas drayton/schneider are with the technical back up.
I have a Nest and very surprised that they have not yet got something like this as the nest with smart TRV's would make a perfect system - even the ability to pair extra room stats would help but nest insist on the One stat for the whole house route. I am now dumping nest and have ordered this - hopefully it will be a worthwhile upgrade - I agree with you ref the look of it though V cheap looking and you have to poke the stat to get the display to show. The ability to wire it and have it display all the time would help.
I wish you all luck with this. I've just installed 10 of them using the Opentherm connection to my new Baxi 800 combi.....and I'm probaly going top have to remove them.
The issue is with the two devices that DON'T have TRVs on them: namely the rad in the hall (where my Nest was originally) and a heated towel rail in the bathroom (that don't have TRVs anyway). When the system calls for heat for one or two rads, these other two make a heck of a noise and get super hot. The noise is apparently water under pressure, so it's like running water. I think it's more like the sound you get when you switch your kettle on.
According to my plumber it's because these smart systems don't take into consideration the fact that the boiler cannot vary it's pump speed (I have a new Baxi 800 combni fitted last November). In a conventional set up you would generally have most rads open, so most of the volume in the sytem is available and the pump speed copes with that. In these new setups only one or two rads may be open so consequently the volume in the system is much lower, but the pump is at the same spped and thus th rushing water noise.....or something like that. I'm no expert as you can tell!
Anyhoo, apart from the noise the hall and bathroom end up at aorund 24 degres when the highest zone demand is 20! Admittedly the rad affected is an older single panel so I could change it and put a TRV on it, but apart from the extra expense I thought you still needed to have at least one rad without a TRV for overrun and I'm not sure the towel rail can serve that purpose.
Probably time to cut my losses and go back to the traditional set up.
The two rads that make noise, sounds like they need balancing. On one side of the rad close the lock shield partially. Ideally you should be looking for 20 deg difference between flow & return across the rads. Hope that's of help to you.
Did you manage to solve this? I am just about to install the same system, did you have problems with the hot water temperature on the taps using opentherm? I did read about some compatibility issues with baxi and wiser. Many thanks.
I had a similar issue with my system
11 rads with 10 Wiser TRV’s and 6 Wiser Wall Stats. The bathroom rad has a “manual” TRV set to fully open.
The system was installed in December 2021 and I flushed all the rads and fitted new valves
I also experienced noise when only one rad TRV opened up (cavitation thru the valve i suspect).
I found a great improvement when I dropped the system temp from 70 to 65 degrees.( This seems to work ok so will drop to try 60 degrees later)
The noise of water flowing is louder when the Bathroom rad is the only one in circuit but this could be the TRV starting to close when the bathroom gets warm.
The system level noise drops when two or more TRV’s open up
The fixed pump speed is a problem!
The engineer who serviced the boiler in December also suggested fitting a external automatic bypass in the system.
I will be fitting this in the spring when the weather warms up!
I am really please with the system.
It is connected to the electric and gas meters so the insights+ lets me monitor usage and helps me tune the system as the weather changes.
2022 had the lowest gas and electric usage over the last 6 years - and this includes an extension 4 years ago which added 30sq Metres and 4 rads to the house!
The only down side for me was that my Valliant boiler doesnt have Opentherm so control is switched 240volts
It would have been useful to have more detail about the issues you had with learning the app, and may show using it, since that is the main way to interact with the system
Thankyou, any furture videos I will try show this.
Other than showing how to boost each room and raise/lower temperature that is about as interactive as it gets. You can set a schedule for each room but that is a one time event.
I would like to see hours each room uses and when in a simple form like the Nest does.
I would say that the Wiser could make your running costs significantly lower than Nest depending on personal circumstances……a lot of people working from home these days…..I don’t, but if I did and I was in my at home office all day I could heat that one room independently all day with Wiser…..if I’m at home and crank up the Nest it’s going to heat 11 rads rather than one so the boiler is going to burn significantly more gas during a working day, Wiser wins hands down !
Iv worked from home for the last 2 years and our gas bill over for the last 2 years are near on identical. 1 year being Nest, 1 year being Wiser, so I can only comment on the facts of that. I am seeing saving now with a balanced return to the office and finally getting the complicated away mode working automatically.
@@DIYJourney1 I can only assume then that when you work from home you’re heating more than just the one room or zone ? Whereas I’m a skinflint and would only heat my office and would be prepared to suffer a cold bathroom for two minutes when I need a pee lol and a cold kitchen whilst I make my lunch before taking it back to my nice warm office to eat 😁
I assume you may not have this system. What I have found with it, in certain rooms it is not worth having sensors in them, as due to the rapid drop in temperature you will find that room constantly calling for heat. Thus defeating the objective of the system. I have found it to be much more beneficial to have a normal trv in this instance, such rooms as our entrance hall and downstairs wc.
@@DIYJourney1 Ssme as yourself I went from Nest to Wiser…..I’ve not experienced the temperature drop scenario you’ve experienced and I’m trying to think why that would be. One thing I have found is that I have to rethink temperatures as nest takes its reading at chest height whereas the smart trvs are down on the floor where it’s cooler
I have worked from home for nearly two years and I'm hoping to save heating other rooms in the house whilst wife and kids are out most of the day. I think the call for heat function per smart rad valve is a neat feature too. I'm also hoping that once I get used to the system/room temps, I can really dialed in to personal circumstances.
I don't get how you haven't saved over using a Nest. A properly configured multi-zone system heating only the required rooms at the required times should outdo a single zone thermostat hands down. Are you just running it like it was a single zone system? If so, that totally misses the point of it.
What would be the point of installing a multi zone system if not going to use it as such…of course we are using it as a multi zone system. Maybe its the size of system, size of rooms, but with the zones being required and all fed from 1 central feed that runs through the whole home, you still require to turn the boiler on for a period of time for one room, Im not seeing a reduction in gas usage (looking at kwh not monetry). Nest was a thermostat in one central area that was not considering top floor or extremity room, maybe where as now it does, so inadvertently more control requiring more heat at times they wouldn’t of normally heated.
I don’t know the answer why,
I am experimenting still but said, I believe it is a luxury than a money saving tools over and above normal smart thermostats, as our rooms are at a much better temperature now.
You could have used any WiFi extender rather than their smart plug. Get yourself a mesh system if you've WiFi issues around your home.
I have a system installed around our property with access point placed on all floors.
Actually that wont work - the Drayton system doesn't use WiFi except to download updates from App alterations, the extenders are to extend the range of it's proprietary Zigbee network, so only the Wiser smart plugs will act as range extenders