CN's All-Rail Iron Ore Trains 2 | CN Serves the North

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  • Опубліковано 12 кві 2019
  • GLADSTONE, MICH - 2019
    Railroads run on parallel ribbons of steel, but the miracle iron and carbon combination which makes up much of our modern world would not be possible without the raw materials making it to the mill.
    The Lake Superior region of the Great Lakes is home to some of the most productive iron ore deposits in the world. The Missabe and Marquette Iron Ranges combine for the vast majority of US iron ore production, and almost all of it rides to Lake Superior by rail and then hits the water for transport by the majestic ships which sail on the great inland seas.
    At Sault Ste Marie, the Algoma Steel Mill is located right at the heart of the iron ore shipping trade, just up the St Mary’s River from the Soo Locks, through which the iron ore boats pass down from Lake Superior towards the lower lake mills. Yet the Algoma Mill receives much of its ore by the all-rail route: ore that never floats.
    Originating at the Cleveland-Cliffs Tilden Mine in the Marquette Range, Canadian National teams with the Lake Superior and Ishpeming to furnish 45 to 70 iron ore hoppers daily year-round, while the lake freighters are forced to lay up for winter.
    The 155-mile haul, as the crow flies, takes the ore on a ride with four different trains, in a continual round-the-clock railroad ore conveyor belt we examine in this edition of Pure Michigan Trains, presented by the Thornapple River Rail Series.
    Curious about how the railroads in this video are laid out on the map? Check out my Google Map Overlay of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula Railroads, via this link: drive.google.com/open?id=1GeS...
    Thanks for watching! Make sure to leave a like and subscribe, for more from the Thornapple River Rail Series! Your support keeps this channel rolling - don’t forget to leave your thoughts and questions in the comments below!
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    Videography Equipment:
    - Primary: Sony FDR-AX53 4K Camcorder
    - Secondary: Sony HDR-PJ790V HD Camcorder
    - Aerial Platform: DJI Phantom 3 Advanced Drone
    - Radio Scanner: Uniden Bearcat BC125AT
    - Edited with: Cyberlink PowerDirector 16
    Created by Alex Christmas. Copyright 2019, as the Thornapple River Rail Series, All Rights Reserved
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  • @kinkajou777
    @kinkajou777 4 роки тому +3

    In the mix, I spotted two cars with the Chicago and Northwestern logo. It’s nice to catch such cars moving!!

  • @IchimokuCloud
    @IchimokuCloud 5 років тому +14

    Wow, those drone shots and under carriage shots are totally awesome!

  • @rustyrailspikeproductions
    @rustyrailspikeproductions 5 років тому +14

    Beautiful video very informative. With very stunning shots and awesome drone footage of the line.

  • @daviddowling9830
    @daviddowling9830 5 років тому +9

    This is how such videos should be,nice work.

  • @500vdc
    @500vdc 5 років тому +5

    Great job! You made it up to my home town, the Soo! Very familiar with the areas shown in the last minutes of this video. It used to be much easier taking pictures by the bridges before 9/11 with all that security fencing, and border patrol officers watching each train. I have heard that distinctive sound of the lift bridge motor starting up hundreds of times. :-) (55:05 in the video). Thanks! I learned a lot about the rest of the line from your videos.

  • @Roadhogg24
    @Roadhogg24 5 років тому +4

    Outstanding, as expected, everything is done with great narration, drone and aerial views, and again, stellar!! THanks again Alex!!!

    • @paul-andrelarose3389
      @paul-andrelarose3389 2 роки тому

      Indeed! Masterfully done and narrated. Thank you. 2022/02/07. Ontario, Canada.

  • @FelicianaDelacruz
    @FelicianaDelacruz 5 років тому +1

    One of the best done railroad videos around! Loved the history and explanations. Just pure and great railroading with awesome scenery and no awful music to ruin an absolutely great piece of video work. Huge Kudos!

  • @brianjohnston9822
    @brianjohnston9822 2 роки тому

    I truly enjoy your films. The narration makes a world of difference from other fly by night productions.

  • @iusetano
    @iusetano 5 років тому +5

    I made sure to follow on Google Earth. I appreciate the history that you provide at some of the locations. Excellent video Alex. It was a pleasure to watch.

  • @trainmanzach2684
    @trainmanzach2684 5 років тому +2

    Great catches, shots, lashups, & video! Well done.

  • @FoamySoaps
    @FoamySoaps 5 років тому +2

    Awesome video! Love the cool shots

  • @kurtkauffman4326
    @kurtkauffman4326 5 років тому +2

    Thanx alot for posting.I'm an Ex UP Resident (Originally Escanaba),Today,I live in Bradenton,Florida.

  • @StormySkyRailProductions
    @StormySkyRailProductions 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video once again enjoyed watching.

  • @jimsmoter4510
    @jimsmoter4510 5 років тому +2

    Great video.. thanks

  • @johnmacqueen1777
    @johnmacqueen1777 Рік тому

    Another awesome video!!!

  • @J3scribe
    @J3scribe 5 років тому

    Top notch presentation Alex!

  • @ericsundell9978
    @ericsundell9978 5 років тому

    Another great video!

  • @Steelers2841
    @Steelers2841 5 років тому +1

    Excellent Video

  • @CTTrains193
    @CTTrains193 3 роки тому

    Wow those old CNW hoppers are awesome!

  • @skycrew867
    @skycrew867 4 роки тому

    Great video.....certainly one of my new favorite channel.....!

  • @marcosinnes5999
    @marcosinnes5999 5 років тому +1

    Great video

  • @3006USMC
    @3006USMC 5 років тому

    Love the drone footage !!!!!

  • @johnstudd4245
    @johnstudd4245 5 років тому +5

    Nice vid, I wondered how much use those rr lines across the UP got. I guess the weight restrictions across the SOO bridge preclude the use of ore jennies. It would seem some of the newer aluminum hoppers would help out in carrying more weight of cargo. Maybe they would not stand up to the wear and tear of taconite pellets compared to softer coal. That bridge span in Rudyard and some of the spans on the SOO bridge are in need of some surface maint and paint. It seems if you really wanted them to last you would keep up on that, like they do on the Mackinaw bridge.
    I wonder what load factors were built into the original SOO bridge. Some of those steam locos back in the day were quite heavy, although they were not running 286k gross wt cars. Makes me think of what it would cost to construct that line in today's money through all that virgin wilderness and building those bridges. Ouch!!

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому +4

      Indeed, aluminum would be literally shredded by much harder iron ore pellets. They can get away with it with much softer coal, but not iron. Go look at photos of coal train wrecks - the aluminum gets hilariously shredded.
      None of the bridges need paint. When it comes to keeping steel, you either need to paint it fairly often or never. Flaking paint keeps in moisture. Once it gets to that rust state, it is better to let the rust protect the structure, rather than risk sandblasting - which would remove quite a bit of metal. Today railroads don't even bother painting steel bridges when installing them, they are just built with the margins to handle surface rust, just like the rails.

  • @Thomas1980
    @Thomas1980 5 років тому

    Wow!!! Amazing

  • @syahdanalwiardinsyah7821
    @syahdanalwiardinsyah7821 2 роки тому

    Nice 🙏👍

  • @RailfannerJones
    @RailfannerJones 5 років тому +5

    One time, I seen a BC Rail SD40-2 in 2014. I made a video of it, but my camera got lost.

  • @ljones121
    @ljones121 Місяць тому

    It's still weird seeing B&LE cars that far from Conneaut, Ohio and their "traditional " home. Granted the cars are still doing exactly what they are designed for.

  • @terryboyer1342
    @terryboyer1342 5 років тому +1

    In think you caught the engineer vaping at 38:39.

    • @saskbench5480
      @saskbench5480 5 років тому

      conductor side, also no need to be a snitch

  • @HyperActive7
    @HyperActive7 4 роки тому +1

    I'm surprised a line like this only sees a couple trains a day, you'd think the iron ore production in Sault Saint Marie would be more than it is.. It just shows you how Chinese steel has ruined a very important part of the Great Lakes region.

  • @alandunstan5485
    @alandunstan5485 5 років тому +4

    How did the CN engine change to a BNSF and back again? The "magic of railroading"?

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому +5

      This video was shot over 3 years and includes about a dozen different iterations of the train, spliced together in location order.

  • @CarlosSilva-hs6wy
    @CarlosSilva-hs6wy 5 років тому +2

    I noticed that the first four hoppers have concrete slates at the bottom... are they buffer cars? Nice video as always!

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому

      Yup, I mentioned in the first few scenes that the first four and last four hoppers are buffers, for the bridge in Sault Ste Marie. The middle two bays are filled with gravel so they aren't too light so as to cause handling problems.

    • @CarlosSilva-hs6wy
      @CarlosSilva-hs6wy 5 років тому

      Thank you. I'll rewatch the first scenes and pay more attention this time.

  • @claydog0117
    @claydog0117 5 років тому +3

    What camera was this filmed with? Great video!

  • @CristinaHernandez-ou1tg
    @CristinaHernandez-ou1tg Рік тому

    los lugarteniente es muy lindó

  • @BillP-kg1yp
    @BillP-kg1yp 3 роки тому

    Quick! Somebody call the management of that company vehicle and tell them that their employees are illegally crossing the tracks.

  • @SportDogg2008
    @SportDogg2008 5 років тому

    I show your station to my brother who works on the train and he said certain things but i'm like so what it very good it doesn't mean anything to him anyway good infomation

  • @railhawkracer1911
    @railhawkracer1911 2 роки тому

    The cn track was originally owned by algoma central then when they were bought by Wisconsin central the trackage rights went to them then Canadian national bought out the wc

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  2 роки тому

      None of the trackage in this film was Algoma Central - they only owned stuff in Canada. What’s discussed in the video is correct.

    • @railhawkracer1911
      @railhawkracer1911 2 роки тому

      @@ThornappleRiverRailSeries ok so then that’s a different line

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  2 роки тому +1

      Correct. The AC goes north from Sault Ste Marie Canada.

    • @railhawkracer1911
      @railhawkracer1911 2 роки тому

      @@ThornappleRiverRailSeries I don’t really know much about the the line the ac ran on but I know it’s in that area

  • @scrappinglady
    @scrappinglady Місяць тому

    What train did you see in April 2019?

  • @ethanlamoureux5306
    @ethanlamoureux5306 5 років тому

    Good video. Neat to see some video from areas I’m familiar with. I’d like to mention tho that the “-christ” in Gilchrist rhymes with fist.
    You mention it being springtime when you show the train coming thru Kinross. Was this recorded during a previous year? I believe the track from the Soo to Rudyard has all be upgraded with continuous rail. They were changing some of it in the Rudyard area this winter. I believe they are going to replace all the jointed rail on this line.

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому

      Kinross was shot in spring of 2018 - good news if they've continued to lay out CWR over there!

    • @ethanlamoureux5306
      @ethanlamoureux5306 5 років тому

      @@ThornappleRiverRailSeries I haven’t had a chance to look at the line in Kinross, but I ran across a guy in a CN hirailer a couple months ago and he said they had pretty much upgraded everything from the Soo to Rudyard. They were apparently working thru the winter. I can confirm that the line between Kinross and Rudyard is now ribbon rail at every place I was able to see. I’m definitely happy to see this. I used to live in Rudyard, back in the WC era and when the old station building still stood, and I remember watching the cars swaying from side to side as the rails bounced at the joints. It’s neat to see how steady they are with the new rail!

  • @ashermccready
    @ashermccready 4 роки тому

    did anyone else notice the BNSF motive power at 8:46, what's that about?

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath 5 років тому

    Yet another stunning TRRS story - if weight is a sensitive matter, would not a road slug combo work instead of DPU, albeit at the cost of some speed? Or would that leave too little grunt for the climbs?

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому +1

      Indeed, they really need two units in a couple of places. Road slugs wouldn't really be any lighter, either, since both mother and slug typically weigh similar to a normal locomotive, because the weight is necessary for traction.

    • @officialmcdeath
      @officialmcdeath 5 років тому

      @@ThornappleRiverRailSeries fair enough, a casual glance into the hoppers suggests that iron ore is a relatively dense mineral

  • @ronmorgan7502
    @ronmorgan7502 5 років тому

    Very nicely produced and interesting. Could have less whistle and more locomotive noise to be even better

  • @phuturephunk
    @phuturephunk 3 роки тому

    I may have missed it, but where did the coil cars come from?

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  3 роки тому

      The steel coil cars are empties heading for the steel mill in Canada, same place as where the ore is going

  • @TheRAFlemingsMr
    @TheRAFlemingsMr 5 років тому

    So, I'm curious seeing a BNSF unit up in the UP. Is it just transient or does BNSF have a real presence in the great frozen Peninsula? Thanks

  • @baja228
    @baja228 2 роки тому

    Regeneration TRAINS

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo7647 5 років тому

    No Thermite Welding To Repair The Broken Track it’s More Permanent 👨🏼‍🔧🧰👨🏼‍🔧

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому +3

      I'm sure they went back to shoot thermite later, they just wanted to keep L551 from being overly delayed at the time.

    • @chrischiampo7647
      @chrischiampo7647 5 років тому

      Thornapple River Rail Series 👍🏼

  • @TheRAFlemingsMr
    @TheRAFlemingsMr 5 років тому

    Then again, 65 yr old eyes do not help.

  • @katzgar
    @katzgar 5 років тому +1

    what is a non rail iron ore train?

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому

      So the "all-rail" means that the ore is not ever shipped by water or any other means - it travels from the mine to the mill only by rail. This contrasts with typical iron ore routing which takes the ore from the mine to the Great Lakes via rail, and then is floated to the mill by water.

    • @katzgar
      @katzgar 5 років тому

      @@ThornappleRiverRailSeries A non rail iron ore train doesn't exist

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому

      Of course. Were you trying to make a joke?

    • @katzgar
      @katzgar 5 років тому +1

      @@ThornappleRiverRailSeries I thought I was stating the obvious

    • @ThornappleRiverRailSeries
      @ThornappleRiverRailSeries  5 років тому +1

      Ahh...yup that flew by me, I thought you were simply confused about the all-rail ore terminology.

  • @sabinask6632
    @sabinask6632 4 роки тому

    Z4