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Greek clubs like PAOK and olympiakos have some of the maddest ultras
U should react to some of the best ultras chants and songs
Every country in Europe have this situation in club level. Basically clubs from their respective cities or regions. And winning or losing a game in that circumstance becomes an issue of Identity crisis. So this level of hooliganism..its reduced very much in England and a few European countries but still very much in existence in may part of the world
When it gets to this point it is not passion, it is out and out idiocy and they are just idiots, I would call them something else but I don't want to swear on your channel. They don't have any brains and in a way it is why I never liked football. You have Rugby which is a lot tougher and testestrone fuelled sport and you NEVER get any violence off the pitch. I would take a family to a rugby match but I would never take them to a football match. Basically it is just the idiot element of certain clubs, they are the hooligan element. When it gets to this point, you are not a fan of the game you are a idiot who doesn't deserve to be let in to watch. There was a lot of clubs in the UK who were like this, Millwall was the one I can think of when I was little. But in the UK they cracked down on it and made it where it is rare to hear of real violence at matches now and that is why you have more women and kids go to matches in this country. One of the biggest riot or disaster that involved violence was at Heysel in 1985 against Juventus and Liverpool. There were 39 killed and 600 non fatal injuries. The outcome was that all English clubs were banned from European competition for 5 years and Liverpool for 6 years. You can see what happened here:
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The term " fans " is used very loosely for the ultras ... you were right in assuming they are gangs, very organised and the masks and balaclavas are to hide identity ... FIFA are "trying" to punish clubs & national teams where this happens.
The important thing to understand is that it is tribal. It replaces a yong man's desire for war. Europeans are passionate, Americans are customers
Listen here, there is a difference between passion and violence/chaos.
Do not ever consider it as passion, we're talking about criminals.
@@Bien_se_passer_tkt_pas I see it as passion. But passion turns into violence when drugs/drink are introduced.
@@Bien_se_passer_tkt_pas ultras are not criminals simple as that...
@@Bien_se_passer_tkt_pas what do you mean ? Have you never seen Serial Killers that say that They are passionate about killing, Passion is not something Positive, It is something you love way too much and almost obsess about, Whether that thing is a Crime or not
@@Bien_se_passer_tkt_pas This passion and the various ultras are highly organized . They Ultras of the clubs arrange appointments to rough each other up. It's very much like the movie Fight club. You have Nazis, Antifa-Black-block, blue collar and white collar workers and unemployed all united in such a fight club. They do not attack woman an children, they look for the ultras of the other team.
"They say football's a matter of life and death, but it's more important than that."
- Bill Shankly
"They say Football is a matter of life and death but I don't like that attitude..........it's more important than that! "....lol
Taken out of context. That's not what he meant at all, he was saying the opposite.
I can see that now. My disappointment in myself is immeasurable and no words can adequately express my remorse regarding my inexcusable faux pas. I am mortified that I got to make such a Schoolboy error and I only try to crave your forgiveness for my brief moment of total complete and utter insanity in making this mistake. I have no excuses and I can only apologize, profusely, for my stupidity, once again. You are a good man for pointing this out to me. I'm inconsolable at the moment.....:(
Bill Shankly would be appalled at the behaviour of these so called fans.
Thats a comment about passion in football not violence. I'm 100% sure Bill Shankly would have no truck with ultras.
Sports in Europe and South América are about pride and a sense of being part of something greater than yourself. Its a thing about being a Club, these teams are not companies, these are institutions that represent your community, your City, your people.
Typically due to socio economic issues. They don't have much else. Sport should not be held in such high regard. Paying players ludicrous amounts of money, whilst the fans are living on below minimum wage. It's a joke.
@@fixxxer7030 In some cases yes. But i wouldnt say that the only issue. You will find these same behaviours in Rich country like Italy and other European Countries. Sometimes its also about politics, a mutual hate between two communities, sometimes even racism.
@@fixxxer7030 I dont agree with you and I agree with Nelson Mandela in this matter:
"Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand."
@@fixxxer7030 Sport absolutely should be held in such high regard, it has the power to unite so many people.
The only reason footballers are paid so well is because they bring in that money, without them it wouldnt be there. Look at MUFCs share price when they announced Cristiano Ronaldo signing, his wages seem paltry in comparison to the money made from his signing. Thats without including merchandise sales, ticket demand, MUTV subscriptions etc etc. Its why lower league and female players arent paid as highly, the standard is lower so they bring in less money.
Yes, you are absolutely right. In USA one team can move from one city to another without any problem, in Europe and South America it is impossible.
For most ultras, its not a sports team, but the representation of their city, and their history. They are very proud of their roots, and they will defend their reputation at any cost. Usually ultras have some unspoken rules that they follow though, like no guns, no knives, and not fighting the general population.
Tell that to the Polish ultras...
@@Marty101ism He did say "usually" , And i know for sure that the no guns/knives and no attacking the general ppl are respected in Romania (at least in the stadium ).
The ultras have there own sections of stands usually on opposite ends of the stadium , with large portions of "regular" ppl in the middle.
They do fight with the guards and the police from time to time ; but it happens less often now.
@@Marty101ism they are only ultras wannabes..... Real Ultras do not attack gen pop.... I assure you a real ultra would beat up the guy if he tried to arass a dad with is kid or a family....
"and they will defend their reputation at any cost" Ironically, they totally ruin their reputation by the way they behave.
@@partista77 You can see that clearly at 10:50 graphite "Боду само пичке" it is Serbian and translated it say "only pussies stab" and you can see sign too.
9:29 "Do you really guys do riots and stuff over football?"
El Salvador and Honduras fought e real WAR over football in 1969....
Croatia Zagreb v Red Star Belgrade. Signalled the start of the Bosnian war that split up Yugoslavia.
No they didn't lol that's a myth.
@@ElyOmar it was certainly when the tensions were at boiling point though I believe.
@@daviddabrowiecki712 I mean the Honduras El Slavador supposed "1 day war"
@@ElyOmar 100 hours war is an alternative name for that war so a day or 4.
Keep in mind the clips you’re watching are on the extreme scale of things, most games are just singing
Singing and chanting love those videos seen and done many some chants are super like the ALLEZ CHANT which every team country has 🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜
..."singing and chanting", and preparing huge, full stand or stadium size or smaller banners, coreos in their free times from their own money.
here is a good example, engineering behind ultras ;-)
gate7 was in this clip also: ua-cam.com/video/vTUCpVm00JQ/v-deo.html
England only wait till u come to greece
Gotta go to the balkans, there isn't just singing :D
This is not so much England, but continental Europe.
And South America.
70's and 80's there was a lot of fighting in England but it has calmed down a lot now.
I was going to say same in france....
that's not true anymore I guess
It was originally called the English disease but police clamped down, lots of football banning orders and CCTV everywhere.
It is South Eastern Europe today. The first many clips are Greece, Bulgaria and former Yugoslavian countries.
In USA fans go to matches to watch the show. Here in Europe WE - the fans - ARE THE SHOW. Greetings from Dinamo Bucharest to all ultras around the world!
well put mate. We dont go to watch the half time show or catch t-shirts from a shirtcannon. We will make sure the opponent team is trembling on their legs from the minute they enter the stadium. We will never sit "mixed supporters". There is too much pride there. We dont care about hot dogs during the game. We give our teams superpowers.
@@TrainwreckBxlare there any ultras in UK? I don't think so but I wanna make sure
In America football is a game. In Europe football is war.
@@t7reekayes the hooligans
@@TrainwreckBxlgoosebump’s after half of your text. Yes, this is what it’s all about
4:03 The mask is mostly to avoid being recognized by authorities as a troublemaker, not actually to intimidate. Football hooligans do not get intimidated by other hooligans wearing masks
Fans from both teams have to be separated. The police get caught in the middle sometimes
Just imagine the club is the medieval or ancient citys...the stadium is the castle...and the fans are the warriors!! Its in the blood!
It’s your team, your city, your pride 🔥❤️
It should be predictable, but never is... Football... We know how you feel about it, because we feel the same.
The police is there to separate the opposing fan base. You can probably imagine what happens when a bunch of drunk angry men with a gang mentality sees a rival gang
have some of that problem on UK railways, they try and schedule different fans through the transport hubs to keep them separate. the stewards try to disarm the more extreme fans as they go in to allow more women and children to watch
British police will arrest some of the more unruly element
It’s pretty much just uk fans who get drunk and try to fight at football matches. Eastern European ultras are organised, usually trained in a martial art and almost always sober.
@@lukebailey2009 basically all of this crap went on in the UK in the 70’s and 80’s. In the end everyone got tired of it. The Eastern European clubs are just copying it. Hungary O- England 4. Hey let’s do monkey chants and throw our drinks at the players. Oooooh.
@@davidcook7887 If you re read my comment I wasn’t condoning it I was just stating that ultras don’t tend to be drunk like the previous comment suggested. At no point did the video show uk fans as the uk doesn’t have ultras.
@@lukebailey2009 Sorry Luke, I agree with you. I meant to make the comment generally to the Sogal video but I replied to you personally accidentally.
"Do you really guys do riots and stuff over football?"
Yes. Welcome to Europe.
Now, imagine some of those ultras coming to America for a football game. Now that is something I'd love to see.
They would surely be shot down by the police before they start singing.
@@cf-xf6ku Not if they start throwing flares against the cops.
They would be helpless because they dont have training for this kind of riots...
@@milosradenkovic7723 dont forget they have guns.
2026 World Cup could be an option 😂
05:00 This is written on Bulgarian language and it is mean: "To be the 12th player in the game (football team is from 11 players) keep all of this instructions...".
06:08 This is in Serbia. This group of fans is called GROBARI (Gravediggers). Their team is "Partizan Beorgad".
many do not understand. the passion, the heart that beats you when you climb the steps of that stadium. we defend our passion.
The ultas often break the law during the game so they are masked to hide their identity.
You also have to keep in mind that in many countries in all of Europe, the relationship with the police tends to be a bit complicated, as there was much personal continuity across regime changes... if you ever get to 1969 or 1989 in one of your history excursions, you'll see a lot more of this. Especially since often and everywhere, the fan and/or ultra groups are intertwined with politics
This is the extreme end of things but yeah, where Im from (Peru) we take our clubs very seriously, we are born into them and are part of our lifes and identities, to the point that there is even legislation in congress to protect the teams and when someone tries to mess with them, tens of thousands go out into the streets in protest and riot. When there is a "Clasico" (The match between the two most popular teams in the country) the whole capital stops and they close main streets of the city (a city of 9million people) so that the "barras bravas" (what the ultras in South America are called) from both teams can walk to the stadium with police escort so that they dont kill each other.
As for what i know (a friend of mine kinda involved in that stuff told me, years ago) Ultra and Barra Brava are different things, for example if you are an Ultra group and people from another group takes your banner and expose it flipped upside down then the group should be dissolved but for Barra Bravas it's not the case because "their belonging to the group goes beyond the banner". I don't know if that's universally the case or not or if it i's partially true or not at all but that's the idea that i have.
There are more family oriented stands at stadiums where you will find a greater mix of people, though they will still be cheering fervently for their side so there'll still be plenty of energy. Football in Europe and South America is much more tribal than American football: often a club's history goes back more than a century and is heavily tied to a particular region or city so supporters often strongly identify with their clubs in the same way you might feel proud to be American, from a particular US state or an alumna from a particular college. What you're seeing in these videos with the ultras is essentially football-themed raves with a lot of tribal celebration. In the past there's been a lot of trouble with football gangs and hooliganism and there still are issues in some places like Eastern Europe and South America, but in general, when it's under control, it's a healthy way to channel young men's energy away from violence and crime.
Yeah. Men need an outlet to channel their desire for fighting and competition. Much better this than actual voilent crime.
"Americans" are all people who live in the American continent, not just in the United States
@@revolucion-socialista The sport is called 'American Football'.
4:47 The sign is in Bulgarian and it says: Be the 12th player in every game! Follow these instructions
Football hooliganism is extremely common in Europe and other countries mostly all football clubs have a hooligan gang
But it's important to understand that this is basically a compilation of very extreme situations and not the standard. The vast majority of these clips was also from the balkans and not from the 5 big leagues
@@arroe8386 you guys count away northern europe alot, i saw atleast 10 clips from sweden
@@pluggn1058 Sweden isn't one of the big leagues either
"Football is the most important thing of the unimportant things of life".
Jorge Valdano.
The fanclub section is caged in to avoid fights. There have been way to many hooligan incidents. The away team fans are also entering and leaving the stadium at a different time and on a different path than the home team.
It also happens occasionally that a teams bus gets thrown rocks on it, but it happened a lot more previously.
It’s more likely to see this in Eastern Europe
Liverpool fans say hi 🤗
Sweden has very good ultras too, AIK Stockholm
back in the 90s i was a ultra !!!! no guns ,no knifes ,no weaponds just my fists !!! best 3 years of my life ...the adrenalin !!! 💪🏻😎
Ultras are not the same as Hooligans!
The fire at 6 minutes is from the Belgrade derby 2013 when Partizan fans set two rows of seats in Red Stars homeground on fire.
Must be the hottest and most intense derby on the planet.
Football is more tribal in Europe and the UK. It goes back a long way with rivalries pre-dating football. There have been rich Americans who have bought English Premier League clubs and have underestimated the fans and have come in for some pretty intense hatred when they've upset the fans. They may own the club but the fans are the heart and soul. It is their club and their community.
very true, owners are seen more as guardians of the club. safeguarding and ensuring the continued success. They will only be there short term relatively but the fans are there indefinitely. Certainly not a force to be underestimated
"Americans" are all people who live in the American continent, not just in the United States
@@revolucion-socialista the definition of an American is different in the UK from your definition of an American. An American is someone from the USA. A Canadian is a Canadian not an American. A Mexican is a Mexican not an American. We wouldn't say of someone from the USA "oh he's a United States of American" that would be a tad silly and a bit of a mouthful..
We used to have a lot of this in England in the 70s and 80s but the game was reformed to combat this sort of culture and the Premier League was established in 1992. The Premier League nowadays is nothing like this, and far more akin to American sports.
There’s more to football in England than the premiership.
Sadly it's true. But in the old days sometimes it was way to brutal with the Ultras and Hools.
@@alynwillams4297 yeah but it's still nothing like continental Europe - specifically Eastern Europe. Lower down the pyramid in England is still closer to the Premier League than Greece.
@@Anonymous-xr8hx mostly because of having over 20+ years of draconian policing, followed by banning orders and silly jail sentences. The rest of Europe will catch up on this and it’ll be exactly the same in times to come.
Thats unfair. American sports is still far more dead and sterile
well, yes, it's a compilation of intense moments, these things happen sometimes but not all the time😅. And you're right, one thing is passion for sport and another thing is violence, violent groups sometimes use the excuse of sport just to commit violence.
The best example is the ""Battle of Marseille"" in the Euro cup 2016🤯🤯
That wasn’t Ultras mate, it was a bunch of drunk Englishmen with their children being ambushed by a bunch of thugs
English teams don't really have ultras, at most one or two teams have them (Millwall)
Ultras are everywhere in mainland Europe, Egypt and the rest of the middle East, South America, more recently they've appeared in South East Asia.
That’s because Britain had Casuals instead of ultras. Which was focused around violence, music, fashion and football.
One of the key differences between football and US sports, is you don't have away fans in a segregated section of the stadium. It's usually the ultras that go to away games as well.
They wear masks because the things they do during and after the games are often prohibited and the way they act is often really violent. They simply don't want to be recognised.
And, they don't want to show the face in the interview. It could be that the employer sees it and they are rid of their jobs.
You've done a good job, SoGal. Keep it up.
I was waiting for this reaction for soooo long! Yes, thanks! :D
6:10 Belgrade, Serbia. Infamous Ethernal Derby between two bitter rivals. Away fans known as "Undertakers" revel in damaging the hated rivals' stadium (seats) . This bonfire was infamous. Later they'd spray the fans/fire with firehoses, and they'd be "singing in the rain". Insane.
You just witnessed Easten Europe and your reaction is hilarious... most of these videos are taken from Serbia, Greece, Albania, Russia and so on. The ultras are more quite and less agressive in the west of Europe.
Those things that you thought were some kind of seats were really a places AFTER where the seats was. Demolished probably by some Ultras. They are basically pumped-up hooligans that can easily even kill for their team in right circumstances. I even saw many of our polish Ultras there.
I've seen this video a lot and I live in this so i can surely state that this video is a lot-lot brutal than weekly match-days. In it, the roughest clips have been selected. On rivalry matches for example Olympiacos VS Panathinaicos, AS Roma VS Lazio or Fenerbahce VS Galatasaray etc. there IS this violence because the fans hate each other. And for ending, in Europe these brutalities are more at the Eastern side than the western. What I just wrote is very simplistic, but I didn't want to write very much. You still have a lot to learn about it, but you are on the right track...
A great man once said "Football is nothing without the fans"
Another great man advised that Potholes can cause serious damage to your car. Especially if you drive across them regularly or at high speed. The four components of your car that will suffer the most damage are the tyres, wheels, suspension, and chassis
Jock stein!!!!
@@patrickconnors8595 the one and only
The united states are a relative young country. U didnt have time to grow rivalries like this yet. Where in Europe some rivalries between city's an People go back 1000 years in some places. Old wars about religion, politics and alot more are the basis of the rivalries between alot of the clubs. U could say it is a modern war for People to express there emotions and ideals!
Good Reaction, as always :)Ultras Greatest Chants Volume 1,2,3 and 4 will really demonstrate the fan passion.
It is only one Section when it is the Away fans as that is all they are allocated but these days with the dreaded All Seater Stadiums the main vocal Guys are spread all over the stadium as each seat is allocated, in advance. When it was mostly standing THe English atmosphere was much more intense as like-minded groups were together and also it was a Working Man's (Grass Roots) game but the exorbitant price of seats has sanitized the stadiums as many working-class lads can no longer afford it.
I ve read that they wamma introduce standing sections in the UK again, dont know when and where or if its true at all though
@@dominikmanthei4546 Sorry for the late reply but I have only just seen your question,my friend.
Yes,Liverpool,Manchester United,Chelsea and others are now doing this.
A great football coach once said "Voetbal is oorlog" (football is War), and that's how we see every match we play, it's about honor, pride and being better then those others
Its always an nice time to see the reactions about Europe Stadiums.I am german and i know this stuff in real.I was there,when the Hooligans begin to fight.Its very dangerous!
2:53 Yes, they are actualy seats, most of the stadiums are post USSR so there is no money for renovetaion :)
the closer the Clubs the bigger is the Rivalry. Schalke and Dortmund or Stuttgart and Karlsruhe come to mind in Germany
That's true but one question comes up my mind, doesn't the hate and rivalry tamper national unity among the city's
dont forget both berlin teams (even if the first derby was peaceful)
@@mtk3755 In the more light Derby's, a good part of the population doesn't reaaally care. But in the really intense Derby Matches like Schalke or Dortmund, a lot of people living in either city don't really like the opposing city, even if they aren't into football. It dates back to many reasons, but if there's been some historic argument between two nearby cities, you can count on the fact that that argument will be carried out through football.
7:21 Those guys in green vests are not police, they are workers of stadium.
Police are those with heavy armor wielded on them.
Your facial expressions while watching this is probably the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life hahah
"Do you really have fights over football".. In the 80s and 90s literally all clubs had a firm.. Firms use to organise the fights.. And believe it or not, there was honour in it.. It was a substitute for war.. Britain had loads of firms,, but the Russian Ultras were the most feared. I urge you to watch "the football factory". A movie about two firms in England. Its a light take on it... But very good.
or ua-cam.com/video/tRz7tFm28OE/v-deo.html
You can react to "Why ultras are so important for football". It's explaining a lot there.
Usually on stadion there are sections for normal fans and for fanatics. Most of things you saw on this video are from sections for the second ones. They making the greatest show with flairs, chants, flags etc, but also they are responsible often for bad stuff like devastations or fights. It's also depending with who they playing. Most of this things is propably from matches with the greatiest rivalies
The American people don't understand our way of life. This is passion. Greetings from Austria to all ultras in the world. Ultras Rapid 🔵🔴⚪
I was taken to my local club by my father, as he was taken by his father before me. Its a right of passage and a bonding experience you dont get annywhere else. You identify by region, city, province, Some fans take it to higher extremes then others sure, But still. its a very deeprooted thing. Some clubs go back 150 years by now and are local generational institutions and a place where you know everyone by name or face atleast. Now Ultra's are that generational knowledge and passion turned up to 11 and its a very mixed bag. Sometimes they do stuff that should rightly get them in jail. Whats the dividing factor with Ultra's is that they do what they do out of passion. And you never get one without the other. The other hand is that you will never find the kind of passion annywhere else in anny other kind of individual. There are woman aswell, though they are not represented in this video, but they are there but the numbers are low. Now to name football a sport to a Ultra is to misunderstand what it -represents- to them. Do we Riot over football. Yes we do, there are instances in South America where fans riot so bad the game is postponed so the match has to be redone. This is done if the team is losing. You also got Ultra's in the Balkans who will go to training days of the teams and outright take the jerseys of players who do not put in the effort required to the point the should not be allowed to represent club collours annymore.
its a deep rooted passion on multiple levels of society from the old man in the family stand to the Ultra in the half broken down ultra square mixed with a big dash of club love, violence and even artistical expression.
Its unique, and impossible to understand if you've not grown up in the enviorment that has sportclubs as a generational centre of binding.
I hope this makes you understand somewhat.
There is no such thing as a rival/opposing team, they are the enemy
dont forget the derbys
Yes ma'm we fight if necessary for the honour of the city, region and the club. It's fun watching you're disbelief
10:25 Conflicts with the police are the result of tensions that exist before or occur during a match.
Demonstrators sometimes want to perform choreographies or gestures that offend the opposing team, a political system, a political or sporting decision against their team or a friendly team. In such situations, the supporters do not have authorization from any official (state institution, sports institution, team leader, team manager ... etc). Conflicts can also arise from the fans because they are dissatisfied with the evolution of their team in that game or after a longer period, although these teams used to evolve at a high level of performance, and in those moments the team than that level.
Conflicts with supporters arise when the police feel offended, intimidated or offended by all supporters or a small group or even individuals. In these cases, the police often decide to use force, which displeases supporters who want to express themselves freely as long as they do not hurt anyone. Police are not looking for the culprit but are evacuating the entire gallery, which provokes riots and conflicts, and these riots can degenerate into real revolutions, especially if the two groups of rival supporters meet, on or off the stadium, accusing each other of hooligan behavior.
4:47 "Бъди дванадесетия играч във всеки мач!Спазвай следните указания".It says, be the twelfth player in each match! Follow the istructions bellow. It's bulgarian language.
On this topic I recommend "My first German soccer game" by Conner Sullivan.
The seats at 03:02 are sealed not to be taken off and used as weapons to fight with of thrown at other supporters. Some group of ultras act like gangs and like to fight as well. Just simple. In cities where these group of ultras are supportent their clubs, there are zones in the stadiums to 'park' them and avoid problems.
2:59 I think that these are seats designed so that they can’t be ripped out and thrown on the pitch or used against other fans or police
These supporter groups are a fundamental part of Football culture, but there's also a lot of criticism that they deal too much with the criminal world. I remember the fanclub of my local club got busted by police for trading drugs a few years back. A lot of stadiums now have a protocol where the visiting fans arrive in a bus, are led to their own seating area by police, then they watch the game while surrounded by said police, who lead them back to the bus and out of the city after the game. It's honestly kind of sad that we need to dispatch police officers because some grown-up men want to pick fights over a game
Ultras are available all over the world. Even in Malaysia, we have the Ultras Malaya which is one of the biggest Ultras in Asia. You can see videos of them in UA-cam. In general ultras look intimidating but they are actually the organized chaos in the stadium. They are normally not the ones behind the riots that sometimes occur. Those are caused by right or left wing fans instead.
9:05 for the more extreme fans you saw in this video it's not just a sport. It's a way of life and that's not exaggerated. There have been fights to death over football games and unfortunately there probably still will be. That being said, of course not everyone is like that and most fans are pretty chill
These are not good boys. There are often regular battles between supporters of the teams that hate each other. There are fatalities.
Well, in the absence of wars and the absence of compulsory military service in many countries today, the testosterone of young men does its job. You have gangs and other problems in the states, Europe has its problems.
Of course, in the film we have a cluster of the most glaring events in the stadiums. In fact, such things do not happen universally. Of course, families with children also attend matches. Stadiums are divided into sectors and ultras are mostly isolated from other fans.
Everyone likes to set something on fire :D Their US counterparts just support political teams instead of sport ones .....
It would be good if you saw «Green street Hooligans», I think that was the film with Elijah Wood. That story is a nice insight of football culture in England, but probably very similar in many countries. :)
Great stuff! Would love to see something about south american fans also!
“They’re like gangs”….yep,usually extremely far right, neo-na#I hooligans with a few extreme left wing anarchist groups as well.
A lot of football fans/ultras also kind of do this fighting with the police for the sole reason of trying to act cool or they think it's fun. It's weird and i don't know why but it's kind of part of a weird macho culture
One of the well known ultras is from EST team in Tunisia for example, check out this video, ua-cam.com/video/-rGw99eR23o/v-deo.html .... The thing to note that this isn't just "people having fun", but it was more "severe" during the dictatorship, in the early 2000's for example .. Ultra was sometimes an opportunity to clash with the police, infact it was happening every couple weeks or so, so it was in a way very political ..
not just riot, rival supporters attack each others and in some place kill rival supporters. In football, club supporter not just bring city/regional pride, but also social class and even political ideology/affiliation. Thats why supporters from visiting teams are escorted by the police and have their separate section in the stadium.
Ultras are basically hooligans. Hence the balaclavas. Ultras from the Italian club SS Lazio even do the Nazi salute.
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Some of the grassroot fanclubs would organize to meet eachother in a park before a match to have a brawl.
However through tracking on social media it has been easier for the police to stop it.
I don't get that. If they want to beat each other up, then they should be allowed to beat each other up. As long as it doesn't harm anyone else of course.
@@Olivia-W Well it is illegal to beat eachother up outside of boxing and martial art events.
@@TrashskillsRS It is, but if both sides fully consent to beating each other up I never saw the issue with it regardless of legality.
The issues occur when one side isn't consenting.
A Brazilian football match has typically a 50/50 slips woman and men…both equally fanatical. Especially a team like Flamengo (top team from Arion de Janeiro) home ground is the Maracana stadium
The fights with police is due to various reason depending on where your club is and what your country of areas stance on fotball, for example some arenas do not want to have any standing areas where the ultras will usually be instead they place seats in all the stands, that's why you see the pile of seats and when the ultras do this the police gets involved and there's the conflict. That just one example and there are many more.
It’s a lot like football matches in uk 🇬🇧 in the 1980s bit crazy 😲
A lot of trouble at the recent Word Cup qualifier between Hungary and England which England won.Fans throwing paper cups and chanting noises at certain English players.A very upsetting sight
Indeed! And will F.I.F.A finally get off their backsides and really punish Hungary? I have my doubts.
@@alansmith1989 - like you,more in hope than expectation.Alan
This is my Religion!Ultras for Life!
05:58 fc Partizan Belgrade (Serbia🇷🇸) in the "Eternal Derby" vs fc Red Star 11:03 "Only p****** stab"
This is very much at the extreme end of things. You would rarely, if ever see scenes like this in the EPL, La liga, etc. This footage is from Eastern Europe mostly, you'd tend to find a pretty right wing ideology running through such groups of supporters. Riots and big fight most likely happen during "derby" matches or some other historic rivalries. Even in leagues like the EPL certain games the police will request start early rather than the evening to keep alcohol consumption down and reduce the chance of violence.
The right wing thing is just bs to say, also there was clip from Sweden, Denmark, germany, Italy, spain, netherland, Portugal (i think i saw) then i probebly failed to mention some west european countries but yes ofcourse there was east europe
Nice against Marseille was pretty ugly as well & destroyed the game... I'm actually not a big fan of ultras as it seems they don't care too much about the actual sport itself.
@@n_other_1604 i dont agree ultras just support then there is hooligans that fights
@@huginmunin8253 They do support, but for many the support, being part of something big, the group dynamic, partying & all of the stuff around the actual sport seems to be more important then the sport itself. In many countries or clubs you can't also draw the line between ultras & hooligans. & at least in germany it's like they're the only ones who can decide how the game (esprecially off the pitch - politically) should be & act like a moral instance without backing it up in their own behaviour... of course many things are good, but overall I'm not a big fan
@@huginmunin8253 That’s different for every individual, cause there are enough hooligans that also support the club
React to best football ultra chants with lyrics
Good suggestion, it gives a good insight to the mindset of these Ultras
I love watching footage of Ajax singing 'Three little birds'; & West Ham singin' 'Bubbles'... ✌️😄
Australians singing 'I come from a land down under', at internationals is also awesome.
There was a period of time a few years ago where every week, about 8 Football fans used to die in Mexico because of the fights in the stadiums
you can and should totally criticize the more destructive ultras, being a fan is fine but don’t use it as an excuse to destroy vandalize and hurt people. It’s not hard to see how this extreme tribalism combined with mob mentality can go wrong fast
Hi, that was very extreme, as far as I could tell none of it was in the UK. You could visit a thousand games here and not encounter anything like that. You were reluctant to call them criminals but I think its a pretty good description of people who wear masks, who attack the police and who commit arson in the stands. Flares and fires would not be allowed here following the Bradford disaster in 1985 when a fire started accidently and killed 56 people.
Although interesting this video does not really give an accurate impression of fan behaviour at most games here.
well most uk ultras i seen start something in away games i seen a couple of clashes over the last few years with liverpool fans and lets not forget euro but overall the majority are from balkan countries italy france turkey greece and others not counting south america.
@@Kazumatempest we have hooligans instead of ultras. However you get a lot more ‘ultras’ in Scotland. And you are right about when fans go away there is more violence. Specifically a lot more when the england national team are playing. Especially nowadays English football is a lot better for violence though
I used to watch lot of football (man utd) couple of years ago and what do I like is when the player/manager attitude towards the games is that they treat is seriously and like a war. Captain like Roy Keane and then Gary Neville was so passionate that it made me care. The manager Alex Ferguson was always demand the best and will always on the pitch looking seriously at the players. If the player/person in the club care, it is easy for me an outsider, person that live thousand of kilometer aways to care about them.
Nowadays the player only care about themselves and theirs money. Useless manager without patience like Van Gal really made me uninterested to support them.
There isn’t fighting at all football games, but the potential is there. The way the police treat the fans at times does not help at all, many times they are heavy handed and cause a lot of the problems themselves. That being said they do a very difficult job at the matches
just go to argentina or brazil you will see some.
Hello SoGal and Roger.
It was like watching a light go on.
I chose to go to rugby league as a fan as it is more like an NFL crowd.
The early European hooligans carried union flags as a salute to English hooligans. It has gone to another level now.
I recently watched a good documentary on Indonesian Ultras that I recommended before to you.
I have asked you to watch the film The Football Factory too on your Patreon.
You ought to see something about the disaster in Brussels in the 1980s that got English clubs banned from European games for years. English football had to change the fan culture to get back in.
Lastly you might check out on UA-cam the Liverpool fans in Australia singing at a Liverpool friendly game there.
Eric Cantona : "You can change your wife, your politics, your religion, but never, never can you change your favourite football team."
It's organised and is decades old, don't forget we have football clubs that are 100 + years of existence. Has we have full generations after generations of fans
It is rooted in us. Imagine there are 40 nations in Europe at the same area of the US, which have been fighting each other for the last two thousand years - nation against nation, city against city. It is inside us. We are peacefull until a match takes on, then we let all our historical angst out. We just never forget the past and these matches let us show it. You cannot have that in America, you are a young nation without this history. The level of identification is completely different. But don't worry, families with kids can go to all these matches and get back home unharmed, that's all safe.;-)
Police are there to keep fans separate. Teams in the UK used to / maybe still idk have firms associated with them who would essentially have gang fights after matches. So keeping fans seperate is considered very important. Away teams fans are usually escorted from the train stations to the stadiums through specific routes to ensure this
familys also come to stadion...you have to understand that in every stadion there is place for ULTRAS and diffrent place for familys...ULTRAS NEVER GO FAMILYS SIDE OF STADION...im from Warsaw...we have our LEGIA CLUB ULTRAS...I go to game many times with my kids..i never feel scare or bad...the show they make...singing...is so beautifull :)
You also get this at, Water Polo, Volleyball, basketball etc etc. Socially, economically, politically, geographically financially it's a different world with corruption. Football is used to also protest against corruption in Parliament.
What you won't get it is we got HISTORY. even between 2 small close towns could have this kind of tribal rivalry. I love our live passion, sense of being part of our city and club. As an American athlete said: the main difference among American sports and other countries ones is that in the state is a a business sport. An athlet sign a contract for his image, he doesn't represent his team. Here it is different, if you sign a contract for the archivals , it s better you won't come back anymore. Money is not sport , remember dear Americans. Money won't buy passion
Ross Kemp on Gangs S03 E02 Poland is a decent documentary to watch about Ultras
Interesting reaction vid! Thx! Greetz West coast Netherlands!
And yes we do riots! 😔
There’s a lot of east European craziness in that video.
Another aspect to mention is that the away team fans are escorted in and out and usually are not permitted to mingle or stay in the city after the game. The home team fans have to wait for the away fans to be escorted out of the stadium, otherwise fights ensue.
This happens more in countries like turkey and Brazil etc where there are dedicated Ultras Groups which may or may not be related to a political body aswell. However in the Premier League youll mostly have supporters Trusts and Fan Groups which are like ultras but instead they work with the club and get certain benefits for working full time or part time towards the club. Like for man United there is a Red Army group which maybe gets season passes so it attends every game and sings chants and also a MU Supporter Group which basically represents the fans in interactions with the club and is an independent entity of its own