Hi Everyone, This Seawind 1600, Wanderlust, is actually the boat featured in Harbors Unknown and to see how well it sails and the ease of tacking and gybing, check out their episode where they have the boat sailed as part of the boat of the year contest - ua-cam.com/video/IWzN2N9Cj54/v-deo.html and their other videos sharing their experience on board!
BTW I came here again after watching the new Antares 44 Hybrid show. I watch many sailing channels. You really have some of the best commentators I have ever seen. You are the ONLY hosts that actually read and comment back. This is so respectful and appreciated. Bless You & Happy Trails
Thats nice of you to say Buzz! We do try to see what people find interesting or value and try to give them the info they want. We have found many of the things that we find ordinary or everyday are very interesting for viewers and are always open to suggestions... We do believe that everyone is on a continuing learning curves the learning is two way with the channels if you pay attention and listen. Hope you continue to find our channel interesting and valuable over time! Eli and John
Yes Peter is honest and down to earth and doesn’t do the usual salesman stuff at all! We were so close to getting the Seawind 1600 because of the performance and ability to beach/ shallow draft!!!!
Love the blooper reels. Yes save them all up for the Christmas and New Year episodes as it is a great way to wrap up a year as we all realise that we are all human. well done
Business seems to be doing very well for Seawind. I have enjoyed watching the build episodes of Ruby Rose 2. Thanks for this lovely video. Happy Trails
Great video. You covered most of the reasons I ordered one. When I asked, they sent me two sets of polars. The ones you have are Lightship and they're for the modified newer version Richard mentioned: 13.5t (instead of 13t) "100mm wider hulls" I think it's also a foot longer.) The second polars are for "Loaded weight 16t." Lightship top end is 22.5 knots, that gets lowered to about 18knots for "Loaded weight." However, all the lines of the polars as they move away from this maximum, change of wind angle and lower speeds, get closer together. So while you lose that amazing max, you keep most of the more practical speed. To keep the weight down I've spec'd most of the lighter weight carbon options. At 6 and 8 knots of wind the light/loaded lines almost superimpose - so weight seems to affect the top speeds more than the practical speeds. (When Richard said '200 nm a day', clearly he wasn't thinking 22 or 18 knots for 24 hours. 200nm/day is still terrific.) Thinking about the Lagoon issue, during the trial sail on Wanderlust after the show closed, I poked my head into the saloon during a tack. Not a peep. Very reassuring. I cannot wait.
Great info - thanks for that detail and really good info for the viewers. In fact getting 200nm per 24 hours being good allows for wind variations at night and changing directions but is very realistic for good performing boats. If you are lucky and have favourable wind strength and direction all 24 hours, you can do 350 nm but this is rare. Nice to hear there was minimal squeaking on the Lagoon in it's tacking too. Lagoon review coming up in the near future.
G'day Guys, That 1600 is a nice boat, I liked that 80H.P. upgrade, could be handy in some of those big tidal runout currents up around the tip of Oz! Richard's no B/S , down to earth approach sold me that boat! Going okay here in Oz, current Covid restrictions etc are making things a little difficult for our Veterans program. We just had a bad run on various Pumps onboard Mystic, sorted now. Bloody boats!!! lol
Honestly..the owner devoted his time to you..to show you what he built? BUY IT! The understated pride in the man's face as he walked you through!? He didn't boast nor did he hype it up. Treated you as true sailors...like he already knew that you knew what he was talking about. Love that..RebelDash!!
Perhaps you can put your order in and then pick up something 2nd hand in the mean time...like a 1260. I would like the 1600 to have the tri-fold door. I'd also love something in the 60ft. range from them. I'm assuming you're watching 'Habours Unknown'? Great video, BDS. I did wish that some of the editing could have shown various aspects a little longer on each shot. But I understand that you were using SW's footage for much of that. I do hope you find your favourite boat..throughout all this. I can't wait to see what you get and how your videos will look once you take delivery! GOD bless your travels and efforts going forward!
Thanks GB, Thanks for your idea about getting an interim boat and we are certainly looking at the options in that direction because the "ideal" boat is certainly not available now - hence the few months we had on the Macgregor 26! And in relation to length of time in each clip, we are always trying to balance out length of videos with maintaining interest and when they get up to 30 mins, we are worried about viewers getting over it... Thanks for you support and kind words - we can't wait too!!! And yes we have seen the Harbours Unknown videos but did not realise till after the filming that it was their boat.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Yes I've been watching you exploits on the Macgregor. Interesting boat, albeit a little small I dare say. I'm sure you'll agree 😀. I keep putting in for the lotto so I can get out there and join you, lol. Thanks to COVID I can appreciate the longer vids. All the best, Cheers
Kudos to Seawind for the 1600 😃 Quality is this Cats middle name! She’s beautiful, fast and let’s not forget it’s a Seawind 🙂 I can definitely see why you both love this catamaran. I know the build time is crazy long but it appears every new boat is projecting a build time of years! Richard did say they hope to “up” production and shave some time off the completion date. Yep, the catamaran is a keeper 👍👍😋 Thank you for the awesome tour 😘
You bring another great choice like the Balance cat. I had a ride in an Aquasport open fishing boat, and my friend said he could fill water tanks under the floor if the weather got too bad. I thought that is a dumb idea before I got my sailboat with an iron swing keel. If you are stuck with cat that was too light to be stable salt water tanks could be added, and adjusted for conditions.
I had that thought. When I asked an experienced cat sailor about storm sails and drogues, he said the biggest problem with a cat is slowing it down. Suggested I get two drogues, learn how to use them - and I presume don't lose any sleep.
Interesting idea Rick! Certainly some of the racing performance monohulls have water ballast and pumps that can be added, moved and removed so the technology certainly exists... I suppose this whole discussion is the argument between manufacturers about what is best and (again) it all depends on what is highest on your priorities - speed (go very light and work hard at the sailing), middle weight and daggerboards (fast but more safety) and heavy (enjoy all the luxuries and get there slower)...
Have ya'll talked much about your old Prescott Whitehaven? A "tour" video on that would be cool if you have enough pics or vids. It has a pretty sweet shape, for a homebuilt 20 years ago with those lines, I'm guessing it was cedar strip and epoxy maybe? That flared hull and swoopy coach roof is almost reminiscent of some Shuttleworth designs.
Hey JC! You are right - western red cedar strips planked with West Systems epoxy sandwich, plywood +WRC bulkheads - classic style at that time. Now we see the premade hulls that you just glass together and limited fairing - SOOOO EASYYYY! Those came out about 3 or 4 years after we had started... We may do a video about the building of her although the footage we have is only still photos so really low quality compared to current day video footage. Thanks for your support!
I thought we would really love this boat, but if you are over 5’6” tall you can’t even stand at the helm stations and you can’t see anything when you are sitting down, not to mention your exposed to the elements if weather gets dicey. Very respectable option though and I can see why others really like it.
Yes, again the compromise to keep the profile low (with less windage) means that the cockpit roof is low. Standing room in the cockpit, just not in the steering position unless you lean outwards.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Yep, I agree all boats are a series of compromises. I was thinking of the scenario where the weather is spicy enough that you need the side curtains down for protection, and you have to navigate into a harbor or anchorage with no visibility forward because you can’t see through the cockpit and saloon. It’s a great catamaran overall, but I’d pick another Leopard 50 over this if I were in your shoes. That elevated helm is such a great spot on that boat. Very interested to see what you choose!
That was a well balanced review. Richard is right. A little weight does indeed provide security at speed and in rough seas. The Seawind 1600 is a fine boat but the wait time is too long for a new one. You want to sail now!!! As with Antares, vendors are asking a lot for them on the used market. Very recently, there was a used Seawind 1600 with an asking price of USD 1.4 million. A bit extreme.
Not just in boats it is the law of supply and demand, you can probably buy a 2022 one at a premium of course. This is why Ferrari on their limited edition cars will not sell them to the general public as they know that people will put down the money and resell the option at a profit. Instead they approach existing customers that own multiple Ferrari's and offer to sell them one. With this used Seawind yes of course the price reflects the limited supply however though Seawind will sell you one at $1.1 million this is barebones and the used one probably has several hundred thousands of dollars of aftermarket equipment added to it.
Love the boat except one thing: the partial roof over helm. As much as I love the sun 🌞 & my hubby recently getting something pre-cancerous removed from the top of his head I need the roof extended about 18” to fully cover the helm. Do you think just catamarans could add something to add complete protection? I was thinking add a couple solar panels on a frame on either side could look aesthetically pleasing, provide shade & fill the batteries a little faster. Aside from this, the boat is gorgeous.
Yes we spent our life treating sun damage so that is why we keep harping on about too! We really want to have sun protection and this boat is half covered compared to the Outremer that is completely exposed. When we asked for drop down shades on the Leopard 50, the canvas makers did not want to put them on as they said that it would obstruct vision - obviously when we were sailing we would lift them by 90-95% of the time you are at anchor but the people that advise sailors clearly have a limited perspective.
Absolutely and I am sure that Richard would agree with you too - he is the CEO / Founder, not a salesman and he was a master of understatement and conservatism! Things like "We not done badly" (in relation to sales into the charter market), "pretty good" and "reasonable" this and "nice:" that... I think that is a reflection of his down to earth honesty and integrity even when I was giving him the opportunity to overstate the really great features!
The Seawind 1600 (including the recent update) is a very nice boat, but doesn't have the latest thinking. Doesn't mean it's bad, but designs have evolved and improved since then. The smaller Seawind 1370 is a newer design and sort of copies some aspects of the Balance Catamaran designs, such as the large salon windows.
Thanks for that. Yes the Seawinds had some really ground breaking designs when each model came out but the older designs are now missing some of the newer concept. I am sure they will be updated over time.
Speaking of other YT channels, have you watched Sailing Ruby Rose? They are working with Seawind on a big update in the design and layout for live aboard cruisers. Great review! Thank you!
Hi yep Ruby Rose have made a good choice with their Seawind 1370 as their first Catamaran and it will hold them in good stead. Anyone can make modifications to the build design to personalise it to a point and Richard offered the same to us although production time for us is an issue right now ! Thanks for watching !
That’s going to be hard as Country that Seawind factory resides in. Has a work stoppage due to political and covid issues. It’s not looking good in Vietnam.
Thanks Crystal - the common problem - some great features and some missing our priorities so we are just going to have to decide on what we put as more important priorities...
…for extended cruising - where - anything can happen weather wise - no matter how well you plan - the helm position is to far back and exposed - also not allowing for relaxed cruising - and - the stud clip on clear glass windows in front - could - just be ripped off in an instant - in really bad weather with high winds - the last thing you would need in such conditions. …the washing machine position - was - chosen by someone who does not do washing often - clearly - as - to get the detergents in - will be a messy difficult constant hassle. …seems more like a day/weekend boat - than - a full time cruiser.
Certainly this is world cruising boat but the features that you mention obviously have not deterred many others and I do not know if the plastic windows have a history of being breeched. Those items always have a limited life in the tropical sun so I would certainly prefer solid perspex / glass myself and I don't know about the washing machine position although it is elevated...
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 …sure - a Willis Jeep with a plastic top and odd ergonomics - will get you from one side to the other of America - I would just prefer to to do it in a well laid out and laid back hard top Land Rover - especially if they were similarly priced.
Hi again, John & Eli. It sounds like the boats that you like (3?) have a 2 or 3 year production wait, with your best option being to buy a reasonably good second hand boat in the interim which you could relatively easily on-sell closer to a new build delivery date. The only risk that I foresee is the potential geo-political fallout from the current covid pandemic coinciding with a projected 2025 delivery, a 'magic date' amongst the global movers and shakers. On the other hand, as we have seen with the rise in bluewater cruising boat prices since March, 2020, commensurate with the onset of covid, a 3rd-hand vessel might be easier to sell in 3 years due to the abovementioned plandemic(sic) fallout.
Yes these are "interesting times".... Yes the 2nd and 3rd hand market is likely to stay very good for several years so we are certainly looking at our interim boat options that are better than the Macgregor 26!
"is it worth the wait" it should read..... queue is now >3yrs for most models.....good luck! :-D having said that, waiting times at the FP, Lag, Leop is also tending up to that >2yrs multiple dealers told me.... go second hand (for the price of a new one ;-)
Whilst I understand at this time they are having problems with COVID, with such demand and profit margins ie cheaper labour costs, why can't Richard employ more labour, thus produce more boats, really it doesn't take three years to build a double storey house, anyhoo good luck and stay safe, all the best from Aus, Al
As I said to my boss one time when corporate wanted to shorten a project time line "You can take one woman and make a baby in 9 months, but you can't take 9 woman and make a baby in one month" I further explained you can't have 3 trades working in one space (we were already scheduled for 24 hours a day 7 days a week for a 6 month project).
@@tommussington8330 Ah yes but after only nine months you have NINE babies instead of just one, and don't forget the 6 "P's" jo ! Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance, All the best, Al
Hi Everyone,
This Seawind 1600, Wanderlust, is actually the boat featured in Harbors Unknown and to see how well it sails and the ease of tacking and gybing, check out their episode where they have the boat sailed as part of the boat of the year contest - ua-cam.com/video/IWzN2N9Cj54/v-deo.html and their other videos sharing their experience on board!
Yes and they seem a lovely couple.
BTW I came here again after watching the new Antares 44 Hybrid show. I watch many sailing channels. You really have some of the best commentators I have ever seen. You are the ONLY hosts that actually read and comment back. This is so respectful and appreciated. Bless You & Happy Trails
Thats nice of you to say Buzz! We do try to see what people find interesting or value and try to give them the info they want. We have found many of the things that we find ordinary or everyday are very interesting for viewers and are always open to suggestions... We do believe that everyone is on a continuing learning curves the learning is two way with the channels if you pay attention and listen. Hope you continue to find our channel interesting and valuable over time! Eli and John
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Thanks. What ever happened to the McGregor or little sailboat you got in AZ soon after the fire. It's a nice boat ⛵
What an amazing gentleman Richard Ward is. Super impressed with his amazing output. My dream boat.
Yes Peter is honest and down to earth and doesn’t do the usual salesman stuff at all! We were so close to getting the Seawind 1600 because of the performance and ability to beach/ shallow draft!!!!
Love the blooper reels. Yes save them all up for the Christmas and New Year episodes as it is a great way to wrap up a year as we all realise that we are all human. well done
Thanks Peter, Thats a good idea - they are a light hearted way to finish and we do have lots of them...
You should go for the 🐆 again. With the front cockpit, and the platform😉
Hi Michael we still love the Leopard ….,
Yes the comfort of the L50 is so tempting and again it is those priorities that we are having to deal with. What are we happy to do without?
Business seems to be doing very well for Seawind. I have enjoyed watching the build episodes of Ruby Rose 2. Thanks for this lovely video. Happy Trails
Cheers and thanks Fot watching !
Great video. You covered most of the reasons I ordered one. When I asked, they sent me two sets of polars. The ones you have are Lightship and they're for the modified newer version Richard mentioned: 13.5t (instead of 13t) "100mm wider hulls" I think it's also a foot longer.) The second polars are for "Loaded weight 16t." Lightship top end is 22.5 knots, that gets lowered to about 18knots for "Loaded weight." However, all the lines of the polars as they move away from this maximum, change of wind angle and lower speeds, get closer together. So while you lose that amazing max, you keep most of the more practical speed. To keep the weight down I've spec'd most of the lighter weight carbon options. At 6 and 8 knots of wind the light/loaded lines almost superimpose - so weight seems to affect the top speeds more than the practical speeds. (When Richard said '200 nm a day', clearly he wasn't thinking 22 or 18 knots for 24 hours. 200nm/day is still terrific.)
Thinking about the Lagoon issue, during the trial sail on Wanderlust after the show closed, I poked my head into the saloon during a tack. Not a peep. Very reassuring. I cannot wait.
Great info - thanks for that detail and really good info for the viewers. In fact getting 200nm per 24 hours being good allows for wind variations at night and changing directions but is very realistic for good performing boats. If you are lucky and have favourable wind strength and direction all 24 hours, you can do 350 nm but this is rare.
Nice to hear there was minimal squeaking on the Lagoon in it's tacking too. Lagoon review coming up in the near future.
I am jealous!
Another beautiful boat, it will be difficult to choose when the time comes. Thanks for sharing another great video ⛵️⛵️🥰🙏🙏
Thanks Kathleen - such a dilemma!
The unprotected helms make it a no go for me. Too bad as the rest of the boat looks fantastic. Thanks for sharing this interesting option.
Yes that is an issue. Like the Outremers but here you get partial shade...
I'm very impressed too.. Gr8 Video Guys and yes you are going to have a hard choice, but it's that a good thing too.... Aussie Aussie Aussie........
Yes Ned good problem to have right!😀
G'day Guys, That 1600 is a nice boat, I liked that 80H.P. upgrade, could be handy in some of those big tidal runout currents up around the tip of Oz! Richard's no B/S , down to earth approach sold me that boat! Going okay here in Oz, current Covid restrictions etc are making things a little difficult for our Veterans program. We just had a bad run on various Pumps onboard Mystic, sorted now. Bloody boats!!! lol
Yes in everything you say! Hope you get the boat functioning and the vets out with you….
That guy is awesome!
Quite a character!
What a treat, royalty when the CEO gives you the tour.
Yes Larry, got the Royal tour , Richard put himself out for us, feel very humbled!
Cheers for your message!
Yes Larry - exactly!
Honestly..the owner devoted his time to you..to show you what he built? BUY IT! The understated pride in the man's face as he walked you through!? He didn't boast nor did he hype it up. Treated you as true sailors...like he already knew that you knew what he was talking about. Love that..RebelDash!!
Hi Stacey yes his 40 years of experience shows and ..We knew that …he knew that …we knew that!! 😄
I think this is a contender Now you have two boats to choose from!
Indeed - to many great boats out there and all with different benefits.
Great video and very informative. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Perhaps you can put your order in and then pick up something 2nd hand in the mean time...like a 1260. I would like the 1600 to have the tri-fold door. I'd also love something in the 60ft. range from them. I'm assuming you're watching 'Habours Unknown'?
Great video, BDS. I did wish that some of the editing could have shown various aspects a little longer on each shot. But I understand that you were using SW's footage for much of that. I do hope you find your favourite boat..throughout all this. I can't wait to see what you get and how your videos will look once you take delivery!
GOD bless your travels and efforts going forward!
Thanks GB, Thanks for your idea about getting an interim boat and we are certainly looking at the options in that direction because the "ideal" boat is certainly not available now - hence the few months we had on the Macgregor 26!
And in relation to length of time in each clip, we are always trying to balance out length of videos with maintaining interest and when they get up to 30 mins, we are worried about viewers getting over it... Thanks for you support and kind words - we can't wait too!!!
And yes we have seen the Harbours Unknown videos but did not realise till after the filming that it was their boat.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 Yes I've been watching you exploits on the Macgregor. Interesting boat, albeit a little small I dare say. I'm sure you'll agree 😀. I keep putting in for the lotto so I can get out there and join you, lol. Thanks to COVID I can appreciate the longer vids. All the best, Cheers
Kudos to Seawind for the 1600 😃 Quality is this Cats middle name! She’s beautiful, fast and let’s not forget it’s a Seawind 🙂 I can definitely see why you both love this catamaran. I know the build time is crazy long but it appears every new boat is projecting a build time of years! Richard did say they hope to “up” production and shave some time off the completion date. Yep, the catamaran is a keeper 👍👍😋 Thank you for the awesome tour 😘
Thanks again Mango for your support and comments. Seawind have new larger premises that will allow them to build more of the 1600s...
You bring another great choice like the Balance cat. I had a ride in an Aquasport open fishing boat, and my friend said he could fill water tanks under the floor if the weather got too bad. I thought that is a dumb idea before I got my sailboat with an iron swing keel. If you are stuck with cat that was too light to be stable salt water tanks could be added, and adjusted for conditions.
I had that thought. When I asked an experienced cat sailor about storm sails and drogues, he said the biggest problem with a cat is slowing it down. Suggested I get two drogues, learn how to use them - and I presume don't lose any sleep.
Interesting idea Rick! Certainly some of the racing performance monohulls have water ballast and pumps that can be added, moved and removed so the technology certainly exists... I suppose this whole discussion is the argument between manufacturers about what is best and (again) it all depends on what is highest on your priorities - speed (go very light and work hard at the sailing), middle weight and daggerboards (fast but more safety) and heavy (enjoy all the luxuries and get there slower)...
I hope you both are watching You Tube videos of Harbors Unknown. They do in depth videos of sailing a Seawind 1600.
Cheers yes Jack we are doing lots of investigating!
I am sure they can answer some of the questions raised by others here too!
Have ya'll talked much about your old Prescott Whitehaven? A "tour" video on that would be cool if you have enough pics or vids. It has a pretty sweet shape, for a homebuilt 20 years ago with those lines, I'm guessing it was cedar strip and epoxy maybe? That flared hull and swoopy coach roof is almost reminiscent of some Shuttleworth designs.
Hey JC! You are right - western red cedar strips planked with West Systems epoxy sandwich, plywood +WRC bulkheads - classic style at that time. Now we see the premade hulls that you just glass together and limited fairing - SOOOO EASYYYY! Those came out about 3 or 4 years after we had started... We may do a video about the building of her although the footage we have is only still photos so really low quality compared to current day video footage. Thanks for your support!
I thought we would really love this boat, but if you are over 5’6” tall you can’t even stand at the helm stations and you can’t see anything when you are sitting down, not to mention your exposed to the elements if weather gets dicey. Very respectable option though and I can see why others really like it.
Yes, again the compromise to keep the profile low (with less windage) means that the cockpit roof is low. Standing room in the cockpit, just not in the steering position unless you lean outwards.
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567
Yep, I agree all boats are a series of compromises. I was thinking of the scenario where the weather is spicy enough that you need the side curtains down for protection, and you have to navigate into a harbor or anchorage with no visibility forward because you can’t see through the cockpit and saloon. It’s a great catamaran overall, but I’d pick another Leopard 50 over this if I were in your shoes. That elevated helm is such a great spot on that boat. Very interested to see what you choose!
Great video guys! Congrats.
Cheers Antonio thanks so much for you positive input!
That was a well balanced review. Richard is right. A little weight does indeed provide security at speed and in rough seas. The Seawind 1600 is a fine boat but the wait time is too long for a new one. You want to sail now!!! As with Antares, vendors are asking a lot for them on the used market. Very recently, there was a used Seawind 1600 with an asking price of USD 1.4 million. A bit extreme.
Not just in boats it is the law of supply and demand, you can probably buy a 2022 one at a premium of course. This is why Ferrari on their limited edition cars will not sell them to the general public as they know that people will put down the money and resell the option at a profit. Instead they approach existing customers that own multiple Ferrari's and offer to sell them one.
With this used Seawind yes of course the price reflects the limited supply however though Seawind will sell you one at $1.1 million this is barebones and the used one probably has several hundred thousands of dollars of aftermarket equipment added to it.
Oooh… yep we are seeing used boats parallel asking price to new simply because of demand!
Love the boat except one thing: the partial roof over helm. As much as I love the sun 🌞 & my hubby recently getting something pre-cancerous removed from the top of his head I need the roof extended about 18” to fully cover the helm. Do you think just catamarans could add something to add complete protection? I was thinking add a couple solar panels on a frame on either side could look aesthetically pleasing, provide shade & fill the batteries a little faster.
Aside from this, the boat is gorgeous.
Yes we spent our life treating sun damage so that is why we keep harping on about too! We really want to have sun protection and this boat is half covered compared to the Outremer that is completely exposed. When we asked for drop down shades on the Leopard 50, the canvas makers did not want to put them on as they said that it would obstruct vision - obviously when we were sailing we would lift them by 90-95% of the time you are at anchor but the people that advise sailors clearly have a limited perspective.
Richard might be a good CEO but not the best salesman. Beautiful yachts. Really enjoying your channel.
Absolutely and I am sure that Richard would agree with you too - he is the CEO / Founder, not a salesman and he was a master of understatement and conservatism! Things like "We not done badly" (in relation to sales into the charter market), "pretty good" and "reasonable" this and "nice:" that... I think that is a reflection of his down to earth honesty and integrity even when I was giving him the opportunity to overstate the really great features!
The Seawind 1600 (including the recent update) is a very nice boat, but doesn't have the latest thinking. Doesn't mean it's bad, but designs have evolved and improved since then.
The smaller Seawind 1370 is a newer design and sort of copies some aspects of the Balance Catamaran designs, such as the large salon windows.
Thanks for that. Yes the Seawinds had some really ground breaking designs when each model came out but the older designs are now missing some of the newer concept. I am sure they will be updated over time.
Speaking of other YT channels, have you watched Sailing Ruby Rose? They are working with Seawind on a big update in the design and layout for live aboard cruisers. Great review! Thank you!
Hi yep Ruby Rose have made a good choice with their Seawind 1370 as their first Catamaran and it will hold them in good stead.
Anyone can make modifications to the build design to personalise it to a point and Richard offered the same to us although
production time for us is an issue right now ! Thanks for watching !
That’s going to be hard as Country that Seawind factory resides in. Has a work stoppage due to political and covid issues. It’s not looking good in Vietnam.
Enjoyed this video about a CAT i have seen little about.
Hi Terry glad you enjoyed the episode. Thanks for watching!
Love the dagger boards and sail speeds. The living spaces seem a bit spartan for your needs. The helm station just seems like an afterthought.
Thanks Crystal - the common problem - some great features and some missing our priorities so we are just going to have to decide on what we put as more important priorities...
Why do you think the helm station seems like an afterthought?
Seawind have a ongoing work stoppage. Affecting both brands, Seawind and Corsair. Political and covid issues.
Their doing a good job!
…for extended cruising - where - anything can happen weather wise - no matter how well you plan - the helm position is to far back and exposed - also not allowing for relaxed cruising - and - the stud clip on clear glass windows in front - could - just be ripped off in an instant - in really bad weather with high winds - the last thing you would need in such conditions.
…the washing machine position - was - chosen by someone who does not do washing often - clearly - as - to get the detergents in - will be a messy difficult constant hassle.
…seems more like a day/weekend boat - than - a full time cruiser.
Excellent points.
Certainly this is world cruising boat but the features that you mention obviously have not deterred many others and I do not know if the plastic windows have a history of being breeched. Those items always have a limited life in the tropical sun so I would certainly prefer solid perspex / glass myself and I don't know about the washing machine position although it is elevated...
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…sure - a Willis Jeep with a plastic top and odd ergonomics - will get you from one side to the other of America - I would just prefer to to do it in a well laid out and laid back hard top Land Rover - especially if they were similarly priced.
Very attractive Cat.
Yes it is lovely!
But can you wait 3 years for a new boat? I think they need to expand production because there are more of us who want a Seawind 1600. ;-)
We don’t want to wait that long… but Richard said they are moving into bigger premises so production may step up!
Indeed - we will need a boat in the interim...
Please take a look at the Lagoon 55, I'm interested to know what you think
Great boat designed in Australia but aren’t they manufactured in Vietnam. What’s your thought on the rudder system
Yes that is right - they are now made in Vietnam. I am happy with the rudder - you jut have to ensure you lift it when going into shallow water....
Hi again, John & Eli. It sounds like the boats that you like (3?) have a 2 or 3 year production wait, with your best option being to buy a reasonably good second hand boat in the interim which you could relatively easily on-sell closer to a new build delivery date.
The only risk that I foresee is the potential geo-political fallout from the current covid pandemic coinciding with a projected 2025 delivery, a 'magic date' amongst the global movers and shakers. On the other hand, as we have seen with the rise in bluewater cruising boat prices since March, 2020, commensurate with the onset of covid, a 3rd-hand vessel might be easier to sell in 3 years due to the abovementioned plandemic(sic) fallout.
Yes these are "interesting times".... Yes the 2nd and 3rd hand market is likely to stay very good for several years so we are certainly looking at our interim boat options that are better than the Macgregor 26!
"is it worth the wait" it should read..... queue is now >3yrs for most models.....good luck! :-D
having said that, waiting times at the FP, Lag, Leop is also tending up to that >2yrs multiple dealers told me.... go second hand (for the price of a new one ;-)
Whilst I understand at this time they are having problems with COVID, with such demand and profit margins ie cheaper labour costs, why can't Richard employ more labour, thus produce more boats, really it doesn't take three years to build a double storey house, anyhoo good luck and stay safe, all the best from Aus, Al
As I said to my boss one time when corporate wanted to shorten a project time line "You can take one woman and make a baby in 9 months, but you can't take 9 woman and make a baby in one month" I further explained you can't have 3 trades working in one space (we were already scheduled for 24 hours a day 7 days a week for a 6 month project).
@@tommussington8330 Ah yes but after only nine months you have NINE babies instead of just one, and don't forget the 6 "P's" jo ! Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance, All the best, Al
Hi Allan thanks for your comment, I know they are moving into bigger premises so maybe can step up production then!
What about the Seawind 1370
Hi Sylvester, nice but our old yacht was around that size and we were after a big bigger , that is why we went for the Leopard 50 .
@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 thanks for the clarification
Was St Francis or Knysna there??
Have you looked at Lightwave Cats?? owned and built in Brisbane, they have a 50' now
No Shane, not this show!
What about the price?
Hi Guy 1.1 mil