The Winds of Winter is 75% Done? New Feast Prologues Found
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Carmine and I discuss prologues found by gsteff at Cushing library as well as GRRM's news that he is 75% done with the Winds of the Winter. It's a lot of maester conspiracy and glass candles talk.
gsteff's reddit post on his visit:
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00:32:30 Winds Update 75%
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Pretty sure his editor was like "George, you've got a complicated conspiracy centred in Dorne, another complicated web of deceit in the north around Stannis, a complicated plot in the Vale with Littlefinger & Sansa, a complicated mystical plot with Bran & Jon, another complicated mystical plot with Euron, several complicated plots & plots within plots in Mereen, that whole thing with Stoneheart and lastly the small matter of a possible sixth Blackfyre rebellion in the Stormlands... bruh are we absolutely sure the Maesters need to be shifty too ?"
"We got a couple more weddings too... heuh heuh heuh heuh. Don't forget another book about a prequel that will reveal everything! Then Elden Ring 2 comes out! HOTD will have all the characters time jump again to the next 4 Blackfyre rebellions then it will finally reach GOT as it concludes with Roberts rebellions, there might be one more conspiracy about the Baratheons and the Storm God but I can't say too much now."
Just because Marwyn said that the maesters are shifty does not mean that they truly are. George likes to be unpredictable, so when Marwyn says that the maesters killed the dragons then it‘s not true..
I mean, also gotta admit that during a civil war, chaos ensues. It's natural there would be dozens of plots all over the country. Doesn't mean the author needs to write about all of them and for us to follow. You can even have a character say at some meeting table "oh yes, lord X stopped a plot by the lords of Y to do Z" and there - you world builided that tons of chaotic shit its happening.
🤣 goddamn you just reminded me this shit is fucking crazy indeed i love it
@@cancerino666 George fails at that which is why he is having trouble now. Reading A Feast For Crows years ago was so tough that its the only book that I don't think I'll ever re-read from the series. He doesn't know how to not write about unnecessary stuff. He peaked with A Storm of Swords. After that there was too much filler POVs for no reason.
I think its safe to say that the Advanced Reader's Copy of Winds of Winter will probably be one of the most valuable books ever seen.
nope
Most of the fans of the show(s) haven't even read the first five books. Yes, there will be hype, but it won't be completely off-the-charts-crazy.
@@DrZaius3141 ARC for AGoT goes for $2500+ right now in 2022 even after it's been published for nearly 3 decades.
I'm sure someone will pay a small fortune to get it for twow, whether it's to read it prior to publish, to compare if there are any changes, or just to have it for a collection 🤷🏼♂️
But as I write this I realize there are some pretty valuable books out there... "it will be one of the most" is definitely a stretch.
@@why97359 I was lucky enough to have a sister who was into the series before the TV Shows. She got me into them around 2009 when the series was announced. I got some used first editions at a local book store (not realizing what they’d be worth) at the very least, I’ve seen these books go for like $150 a pop… not bad considering I paid like $15 per book.
That's a stretch
Update!
9months later, it is now 76% done.
More like 75.5%. GRRM loves to round up.
@@ElBombastico883 70% done, but good news is he is now already 5% done with Dream! No way that takes as long as Winds right?
George saying he's 75% done, but has to go back to rewrite, sounds like the story of the guy painting a huge bridge, and by the time he is done he already needs to repaint the whole bridge again becaus the paint at the far end decayed already.
That’s actually probably referencing a saying “painting the forth bridge” which was a common saying in the UK due to the perpetual task of painting the Forth Rail Bridge.
@@mrgaudy1954 It's just the "Forth Bridge." You don't need to clarify unless you're talking about the much smaller road bridge - which would be "The Forth Road Bridge"
The rail bridge is so large by comparison its simply just called "The Forth Bridge"
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 I’m aware but that’s a very odd thing to nitpick on.
@@mrgaudy1954 Not really.
Before I begin, if you knew you wouldn't have made the mistake.
But in any case, it's not "nit-picky" to those that live there.
It's like confusing Washington State with DC; like conflating Comanche with Iriquois or Blackfoot.
To other people I'm sure it's all the same. But I don't think a Bangladeshi would think I were being "nit-picky" if you called you out for naming them Indian...
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 Actually people from the area use Forth Bridge and Forth Rail Bridge interchangeably, as well as "rail bridge" and "road bridge" for the same purpose. They also aren't generally absolute weirdos who clutch their pearls over something like this, so they would consider you a nit-picker. As for equating this to calling Bangladeshis Indian, that is an absolutely clownish comparison. I'm not sure if you think this tirade makes you seem profound or intelligent but you're not really hitting the mark.
I wish I could send George a couple of years of my life force just in case.
Year 2222: The Winds of Winter are like 80% finished, George is making good progress, it is expected that the book might be ready not earlier than in 2224
He would waste it on writing wild cards
@@buddyfats4768 😫😫😹
GRRM Vader is an idea. Get him to the bactine tank STAT.
It’s like in Dragonball where the whole planet gives Goku their energy
But Preston! The book can't be 75% done yet! We've only written around 5 chapters!
Hehe
6 chapters is all you get boyo🤡
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I spent 6 years at A&M not knowing who George Martin was, only to move across the country and learn that treasure trove was there the whole time. Ugh.
Bruhh😂😂 get scammed
@Preston Jacobs if/when Winds finally comes out would you consider doing a series recapping/highlighting the state of the world at the start of the book. It's been forever and I would definitely need a refresher
Whenever a new theory comes out I realize that I have no idea about half of what it's referring to.
This would be great book 4 and 5 were hard for me to focus on. I’d love it now so I could enjoy Preston’s fan fiction more
Definitely for 4. Hardest book to stay focused on for sure. Everytime I start a reread I get to 4 and slow way wasaay down
@@DC-ml6cv you should try the boiled leather version for the last 2 books. Makes it way better imo
Just listen to the entire series it’s on UA-cam for free
10 months later it's 75.4444444444456% done.
As someone who used to work (as a student) in the Ray Bradbury papers section of IU, keeping the papers how they were delivered is exactly how most historical documents are kept in a university library. That being said they’ve likely already digitized the texts before making them available for research
Historian/Archivist here. Came here to say this.
Most of the time we will actually remove lamination/plastic because it will damage the paper as it deteriorates. This goes for stuff like paper clips and rubber bands as well. As an aside, depending on the type of paper the shelf life of the originals may vary considerably. Modern printing uses a lot more chemicals that cause the paper to deteriorate faster because it's cheap, and most things are digitized. We have paper/vellum records going as far back as the 1200's, but some TV manuscripts from the late 2010's are already wasting away.
As a University Librarian I can confirm that as long as you fill out all the forms yes we will let you view any material that the university contains. If it’s fragile or expensive we may ask you to wear gloves, be supervised or have a trained person display it for you. But the personal effects/writings of GRRM you should be able to consult that within the assigned room and return it when you’re finished. The contents won’t be laminated or anything, the contents will be examined and be catalogued so that the material can be searched for in the system but individual boxes won’t have their contents described because that’s not the detail that libraries go into. You don’t be able to make copies or any sort but you can make notes
I think GRRM losing confidence over the glass candle has to do with it being too close to a crystal ball/palantir and the Weirwood Net is much more removed from that on the surface, but still accomplished the long range communications.
@@alexanderguerrero347 The white tree & seven stars
I think he was losing confidence in the whole concept of the prologue, not the candle itself.
@@michaelhenry3234 But wheres the fun in that? Does George strike you as the type to restrict his stories? The opposite is true, otherwise we would have WOW, ADOS, 6 new Dunk and Egg books, and lord knows what else. Sure he has limits, but they're not the same limits us mere mortals live by.
@@williamhermann6635 I'm saying he was struggling with making that choice. His stories are expansive, yes, but he's constantly told us how much trouble he has with Bran's POV in no small part because his story is magical and he wants to be careful with how he presents magic. If he suddenly had the idea to put in a magical conspiracy and sorcerous manipulators sometime during the writing of AFFC, that'd be a huge decision to make that could drastically affect the story going forward. Of course he'd want to be careful with the idea and might lose confidence in it. But we did get glass candles, so it's a possibility that he did not drop the idea. Or it could've gone the way of the Shrouded Lord, who knows.
@@alexanderguerrero347 the Tyrells honestly remind me of the Stewards in LOTR
The object in the citadel and opening sequence in the show that you guys compare with the big lamp mentioned in the prologue is an armillary sphere, a real astronomical instrument used in medieval times, the shows designers couldve definitely chosen to include that independently of any input from George.
Doubtful. Virtually all of their independent ideas were trash. I dont believe for a second they could think of something so historical and cool.
@@williamhermann6635 Don't underestimate concept artists
@williamhermann6635 Yes, but the sort of people who design sets and put in details like that in concept art are usually much more creative people.
Back are we and
Are back and we.
Common misconception about the words of House Jaqobys.
@@YggdrasilAudio what?
@@joeyrozic1100 They're: We are probably wrong about half of this.
Dany kinda forgot about the iron fleet, but they certainly haven’t forgotten about her
It's starting to seem like Martin really wanted pyromancy and glass candles in earlier drafts, but now he's let certain magical concepts evolve over time that don't quite gel with some of his original details.
There is a Nordic story about a singer who is immortal so long as a candle is never used up. Meaning he actually extends his life by never lighting said candle.
The thought of the glass candle basically being a flashlight is hysterical.
I don't know why I'm still so dedicated to this series at this point, it should be obvious we are never getting a conclusion
I need no conclusion, I just want to see what actually happens to the poor khals who accidently walk in the talons of Drogon and Daenerys.
Aren’t Preston and Carmine writing an end for the story?
@@irisamanda3922 I thought that too, but I was told that if anything happens to George no one is to finish the story
@@mudbutt42 Preston and Carmines story would be completely their own, would have nothing to do really with the actual book series. I also am pretty sure I heard that GRRM didn’t want anyone finishing his series if he couldn’t, unliked Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson with wheel of time.
@@mudbutt42 Preston and Carmine’s version will be classified as fan fiction.
Carmine's astonishment at how libraries work made my day 😂
"That's a thing they allow?!"
I remember getting a library card to my State University in highschool feeling like I could find out ANYTHING. Just walking through the stacks was an experience.
This was in the before times, when not even the library computers had full listings and parts of the collection were tracked by card catalog...
Um....I just went to the library yesterday so no? My astonishment is how they allow people to go through George's things. technically they're his manuscripts and such and I figured they'd be under lock and key. Come on now, if you're going to insult me use some common sense first.
@@OfficialRedTeamReview love you carmine. I think they mostly wanted to share an experience from their past, maybe took the wrong segue to get there. Yall are clearly discussing George's manuscript library, and maybe the commenter heard it wrong.
@@Ajbolt89 Lol nah. It's kind of insulting to assume someone doesn't know how a library works. Just me though
Pretty sure a 30 year old man who lived in the USA knows how a library works. I was also surprised George allows people to go through his drafts and such and they're not on display somewhere.
@@OfficialRedTeamReview Carmine, I love your conversations with Preston, and I enjoy your contributions on air and I imagine there's a lot of stuff you do behind the scenes to make it possible too. Thank you!
I didn't mean to come across as critical, if I'd have thought you'd feel insulted I never would have commented.
I think the thing that made me happy was *relating* to your astonishment at discovering something cool that's freely available you were unaware of. It's totally surprising to me that George would donate that kind of stuff, it's less surprising to me we can access it now that the library owns it, but it is still an amazing thing. I misread what you were reacting to. Please accept my apology for wading into the conversation inartfully.
I did something similar at another university library. There’s a huge collection of documents that the library had on this event I was researching, and I just had to let them know I was stopping by and they let me look through whatever I wanted. I couldn’t take anything out of the library - that was the only rule - but it was super handy and they had hundreds of items to looks through.
"Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back IN!"
-Michael Corleone
THE GODFATHER 3
Yes But Silvio Dante did it better
I’m telling you, T. This guy Beric has come back 6 times from this Azor Ahai fire wizard then breathes life into this dead broad and that’s the last time. What an arc!
I think there is an asymptotic relationship developing between the writing of the book and time. Where everytime GRRM gives an update, he is a certain amount done, but never fully done whilst approaching 100% towards infinity, but never actually getting there. So in 4 years, he will be 98% done. In 4 more, it'll be 99.5%. Then in 4 more, itll be 99.78%.
How funny would it be if he just fuckin ended the series in WoW. "There's your goddamn book, now leave me to my shows!"
Texas AM is the actual Citadel now.
I am convinced that George say your video and said to himself: "that seems like an okay number to state in my next interview, I will use that"
“Grab a torch and approach the flame. Dip it in and get fire. This is part of the ritual at Tribal Council, because in this game, fire represents your life; when your fire's gone, so are you.”
This is a catchphrase from Survivor
🤘😂
Surprised you didn't bring up the Undying comparison. They seem to live forever both as a hive-mind and physically (albeit as blue shrivelled zombies).
The glass candles always remind me of the Palantiri from Tolkien.
There's an obvious echo.
We also have Galadriel's mirror.
Grrm is like me. My friends are asking me, how far am I with my writing. I say that in the last year, I completed a good 50% of the book. Meanwhile in reality, I have done jack shit.
Lol of the a massive procrastinator had to start one of the best fantasy series of all time, that’s just our shitty luck,
The worst part about writing is sitting down to write haha
@@Hero_Of_Old One thing that helps me are deadlines. I'm most productive, 12 hours before a deadline. But GRRM is too big, for any editor to give him any deadlines. And he seems to give himself deadlines, promises and restrictions (remember last year when he promised that he will lock himself up in his cabin, and won't come out until he is done?), only to break them all and shrug it off.
@@transformersrevenge9 Yeah that pisses me off he did that. Don't promise people you'll do something then don't, and I thought he said we could all lock him up if he didn't get it done by IDK last year?
@@Hero_Of_Old sitting down to write WITH expectations..
George is so used to making us love his characters and then killing them that now he is trying it with the books.
I think saying anything short of 3/4 would be criminal at this point so he just picked an acceptable number. You can see his insides burning though.....
So we've got another 4 years to wait then.........
So I once found this academic paper on the riddle of the sphinx and it said that in early versions the sphinx's question was much simpler: "What goes on 2 legs and 4?"... Oedipus of course answers "Man" but apparently that's the wrong answer and the actual answer is "An Agrarian Culture" referencing humans and their cattle. It occurred to me that "Dragon" in the Targaryens sense could be a valid answer. This was years ago and I basically dismissed it because Sphinxes didnt seem important to George
“Rewriting early chapters” i had a frustration laugh followed by my hand going down through my entire face when i heard that
Great news! At this pace we'll have A Dream of Spring in by Spring 2048 while George is still a strapping young lad of 99 summers.
I can just imagine what will happen when Winds Of Winter finally comes out. It will probably be one of the most desired books in history with EVERYBODY scrambling to get their hands on one.
I still don't think we'll ever have to worry about that
I already gave money to a robot that will buy one for me as soon as it becomes live for 20% premium
A lot of people have lost interest and just aren't invested in the story anymore.
We need Dreams to conclude the story as well, I don't see that magically coming out anytime soon after Winds. You can only be so optimistic until you move on to something else...
@@ManSillyHat if he announces that the book will come out the next year for instance
Many people intrest will be bought back again.
What Sam sees in the citadel is the astrolabe that zips around and zooms in and out on the map in the opening credits
Just in case anyone ever hates on these kind of rwmbly videos, wanted to say I love them. Particularly the part where Preston pulls patterns from George's back catalogue!
I don’t really understand why pj said that inventing the barristan pov solved the myrenese knot. I don’t see what’s so key that can happen in barristan perspective that a new pov was necessary. Remember Tyrion is here, he’s just on the outside. We can see anything we need to see through him, and there’s always the possibility that’s Tyrion could meet barristan and therefore be brought into the pyramid and become privy to things going on within danys faction.
Well, its not dropping any time soon, but silver lining: Your video estimating how much George had finished was pretty much spot on.
"The point is: If we can store music on a compact disc, why can't we store a man's intelligence and personality on one? So I have the engineers figuring that out now."
I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM has written, lost, and forgot enough material to finish the ASOIAF series a couple times over already.
What? 75% done? Sounds too good to be true.....I'm not going to let this get me hopeful...... Winds sounds like a prophecy at this point.
That means only like, 3 more years!!!
I mean with being on set, out of his house, people talking about his work, and just being able to get creative. Might of help compared to forcing himself to write
Agree
And as we know prophecy can be misinterpreted ,maybe it's actually a metaphor for his age and we actually only getting it in 25 years
Prophecy is a sword without a hilt.
I think it's interesting how Carmine has essentially become Preston's agent.
Autographs are $100 but if you buy 2 you get the 3rd one 5% off
Carmine, you want Preston to abandon his children to go search a library in Texas??!! Babies can't eat lemongates!
when i was studying at my colledge, they have texts from before the reconquista, and a investigator came and they had him watched with gloves and a glass separation while we were all there touching the books with our bare hands
I think the editors won't ask George to move stuff to dream, but they will simply divide the book in two, then either release of both parts on the same day or part 2 is release a few months later
I think two books
Thanks for tipping us off to Gsteff's post. I'm surprised it got so little attention, these are some pretty huge findings already! The glass candles being able to offer immortality opens up so many possibilities. I wonder if George was planning to have another Bloodraven type reveal, where some mystery character (Quaithe?) is revealed to be somebody ancient from history, kept alive by the magic of the glass candle. Although it seems that glass candles only turned on after the birth of Dany's dragon, so I don't know what the point of the immortality would be, if it just started working at the end of AGOT. I wonder if George abandoned this idea completely or whether he's still considering to reveal it later on. It's also super interesting to consider that Jaqen, a follower of the House of Black and White, was interested in an artifact that grants immortality. Doesn't that go against the core tenet of his whole religion? Really interesting finding all around by Gsteff. Looking forward to his future posts!
Reading your comment and I was thinking when the candles start burning again are whatever consciousness stored in the candles waking up?
@@Khaozizking If we go by the passage in the text, then the consciousnesses previously stored in the candles would have been lost after the flames died out. Similarly to when a weirwood tree is cut down, I presume. Although it's interesting to consider what happened to all those souls previously stored in the glass candles, especially with a lot of talk of ghosts in the book series.
House of black of white may wish to eliminate glass candles and anyone using them if they cheat death.
Maybe he wants to find it so he can destroy it?
I can think of 2 possibilities with this: first that they are burning because the others are awakening. Second that rhaegar is still alive in some sad and horrifying way and will be consumed by euron
I have always had an issue with the ostensible third act of Asoiaf being an Others invasion. If the Others invade, most of not all of the intrigue and scheming will have to go away. The book will just be named characters surviving or dying to Others encounters. I wouldn't want to read more than half a book of that, much less multiple books.
does anyone know where i can watch the whole GRRM interview livestream? i cant seem to find it
I just wish George would do volumes with winds at this point
Glass candles are very similar to the Palantir stones in Lord of the Rings. Both are magical rwlics of a lost age that have not been used for their stated purpose in centuries, can be used to communicate long distances, and can be used to manipulate the minds of people on the other end of them (think pippin).
That’s what I was going to say. Plus one.
Think Pippin is an oxymoron
Except for palantir need another one glass candles can seemingly target anyone although perhaps marwin sees less than Sauron who essentially downloads everything pippin knows
I don't think the Palantiri had any inherent ability to manipulate the minds of people. Magic in Tolkein is essentially influence based, the more 'magically powerful' a being, the greater their ability to influence the music of the Ainur. Sauron as a Maia has a great capacity for influencing the world, as such he is able to exert that through the Palantir which is essentially just a communication device for anyone else. Glass candles on the other hand do appear to have an inherent ability to tap into the subconscious of other people.
2024 is the year of dragon. Maybe the book will come out this year.
It sounds like George wanted to retcon-in the idea that one can skinchange light, probably for some Azor Ahai stuff.
skinchange light?
@@7PlayingWithFire7 Right, like Shadowbabies or some such.
Damn!!
I was just looking at the other video, and waiting if there would be any new update.
Then this...
Hope you do fly there and check these boxes! Seems like great video material, make it even a vlog or something and later a more analytical video.
as someone who has managed and routinely gone through special collections for research, they're amazing
Carmine not understanding how an archive works :L
Pretty sure i know how those works. I'm just surprised they allow people to go through George's things. technically they're his manuscripts and such and I figured they'd be under lock and key and most people wouldn't be allowed to touch them to such an extent. Come on now, if you're going to insult me use some common sense first.
@@OfficialRedTeamReview what I meant is that items in archives/libraries are usually easy to access (once you sign up). I visit the British Library and other archives frequently, and you can get access to items hundreds of years old very quickly (which as much as I like a Song of Ice and Fire, I’d argue are easily as valuable). You’re not allowed drinks/food etc in the reading room and you can only bring a pencil to prevent damage - the gloves thing is a bit a myth (I was taught they can do more damage, as they make you less sensitive to the fragility of the pages).
Sorry to be a dick - just thought it sounded super obvious what Preston was saying - probs my own bias. Keep the great content coming!
I guess in response to your reply, if he wanted them under lock and key, why wouldn’t he just keep hold of them?
@@JamesSmith-iw6yc No clue bro. No clue. But I'm well aware of how messy and gross and clumsy people are and am still surprised they aren't under lock and key.
Probably the only channel which gives the most accurate assessment of when (if 🤔 ) we will see winds of winter book .
I hope there will be 2 books. Instead of them cutting stuff from Winds of Winter
22:34 I’m blown away that the Fanfic managed to parallel George so well
wow, such an interesting revelation. Would you mind explaining why George left the boxes there? How they ended there?
Make its 2 volumes released at once . Vol1: the winds, vol2: of winter
Wow, just started listening. This kind of access, even if the author is aware and saves this stuff, usually you can't do this till they're dead and their kids need cash. This is kind of amazing.
I think that because there’s only two books to go, The others invasion and Danys invasion has to happen simultaneously. What do you think?
If we can download George into a memory chip that lasts forever we might actually get a Winds of Winter some day.
If only.
Might as well just stick him in the holodeck and with time we might get winds.
Gotta upload him to an Elon Musk Nueralink
@@ricebix That would def guarantee we never get Winds 💀
The series will be finished by Brandon Sanderson.
Libraries are amazing, especially when they have things like these manuscripts in them.
My friend from high school is doing her doctorate at Texas A&M …… might have to send her on a mission for me lol
Keep us informed lmao
I'd love some maester conspiracy talk
Hurrah for the Off Season Asoiaf Content
Good thing I’m rereading the books
Ive heard a crazy yet interesting theory that Shae was Sarella Sand! I don't believe it however. But it is interesting
Im not sure Preston understands what ‘introduce’ means. You may have wanted more, many of us probably want more information on the Hightowers, but he did in fact introduce Oldtown and the Hightowers so I’m not sure why we needed a 5 minute rant about how the chapter didnt introduce the Hightowers or other characters in Oldtown other than your typical profuse desire to be pedantic at all times
I think he understands what it means. It wasn't enough. By introduction into a novel series already 3 books deep, it means more than, Hi, my name is Kenny. You don't understand introduction of a character in a literary sense. You think a simple mention is an introduction, but it isn't for a novel, let alone a series. I barely remembered those characters until he mentioned them again.
GRRM was saying when he released "Rise of the Dragon" that a threw away a whole chapter recently cause he wasn't satisfied with it. He is too much a perfectionist and love this Universe so much, it will never end. He always wants it to be better and better.
I think a huge clue to the maesters just happened.. in the last scene at stormsend.. it was almost like the maester left out half of what was in the letter and only send the part that would make up the lords mind in their favor.. maester are like bishops in Europe in the Middle Ages..
Do we know if he actually left anything out of the message?
Rosi to Pat: „Is this a Glascandle down there in your pants or are you just happy to see me?“
George should've done the 5 year gap.
For real looks like he's down bad now
Yeah would’ve aged up characters which is much needed. Also made the dragons bigger
The 5 year gap would have worked for characters like Jon, Dany, and Arya; but it would have completely screwed over characters like Brienne, Cersei, Theon, and Tyrion. Since they would have been standing around not doing anything for 5 years.
@@nunouno001
Plot twist: Brienne completes the tour of Westeros and now knows and has useful contacts everywhere.
Cersei now knows every secret passage of the Red Keep, has accumulated a monstrous amount of wildfire stash and is now immune to all kinds of poison.
Theon now knows a big deal of the Great Lords' secrets from the North and beyond, as well as discovering every secret of Winterfell.
Tyrion finally finds out where the whores go.
The 5 year gap basically requires him to go back and explain everything that happened in the last 5 years.
I wonder if there was supposed to be any connections between the glass candles & the R'hollor resurrections. Maybe Beric was tied to a glass candle? Maybe unknowingly and he was being used to see and do stuff in the Riverlands idk. Pretty wild speculation I think it's just all the recent stuff coming out has got me all invested in the series' again 😞
@PrestonJacobs like with Storm-born (Daenerys is all three possibilities), why assume “or”?… Jaqen is probably looking for a Bell, Book, AND a Candle, or at least a metaphorical equivalent.
Just an addition here:
The three parts of the story, War of the 5 kings, Daenerys' Invasion/civil War and The Others conclusion don't need to be all of similar length. The War of the 5 Kings is now over and we are entering into the second part. I think the whole TWoW and half of ADoS will be about The Targaryen stuff and the second half (around 700 pages) will focus on The Others and the whole Lovecraftian part of the story. it does not mean thta we won't get parts of one into the other obviously but I think this is the general idea.
If winds comes out soon it will be one of the books of all time
😂
The Candles sound like the Ter'angreal for reaching Tel'aranriodh in "The Wheel of Time"!
was this recorded before HOTD finaly? i still havent seen it
When Winds release you should go through each theory and explain what was correct and what was wrong and future implications
random half-baked theory - with this idea that glass candles mark whether someone's dead, and the Faceless Men involvement...
Gotta wonder if the Faceless Men have similar candles, that don't extend life, but just mark when its extinguished? Otherwise gotta wonder, especially if the Faceless Men are going after someone super elusive like Bloodraven, how they know the person is still alive?
Hey Preston, this is unrelated to the video, but what do you think about the possibility of White Walkers having multiple competing or opposing factions? I have no proof nor hint of this, it's just a thought that came to my mind while watching your video on Qarth factions. Maybe something you can incorporate in the fan fiction project.
The green angel tower was split into two parts volume 1 and volume 2 so the publisher could do the same like Tad Williams did
A: There's a library with all the untold secrets of ASOIAF.
B: Awesome! Let's go now!
A: It's in College Station, Texas.
B: ..Nah I'm alright.
So if he is about 75% done and it took 11 years, there's at least 3 or more years to wait, and that's without counting time lost for developing shows nobody asked for about a single line of lore taken from an appendix. I accepted I would never get to read the end of the story when he didn't finish after a year long lockdown. Everytime I hear news about 10.000 ships, Yi Ti, the 9 voyages or some other half baked spinoff I cringe. Gimme TWOW and the next D&E story!
@prestonjacobs Is this something new or has this info been public for a while? First I'm hearing if it.
I've always questioned if Aemon had a glass candle and somehow he gave it to Jon, which is why he goes downhill almost immediately leaving the wall. Or if the wall is connected to the glass candles and that's what was keeping him alive. 🤷♀️
Great idea. It would explain his nonsensically long life and his quick decline. However why would be consent to leaving the wal and not take his candle ?
Well at the wall he's safe and warm and fed all day. Have you seen a super elderly person travel? A long car ride isn't good so I'd imagine a boat ride across a stormy sea would definitely do the trick for his decline
Nice idea but I disagree. Ice preserves, fire consumes. If we put aside normal problems someone Aemon's age would have with travelling then he left the cold and the magic of the wall that was preserving him. Just an idea 🤷🏼♀️
@@umwha if it's something he couldn't take makes sense, but he left a lot of specific stuff with Jon maybe it's actually one of those things. There was a lot of attention to myrish lens tubes maybe they're connected
@@AutumnsFlameDances True, but I merely point out that we do already have 'Fire Zombies' so fire, strange though it is, dosent always consume - sometimes for some reason, it can preserve.
When he said he's 75% done he also reiterated that he doesn't write chapter by chapter as we read it in the end product, but more a few chapters of each POV character at a time and so he said he's completely done w a couple of the POV characters. Meaning of the remaining 25% that could include 3 or 4 bran chapters which will take him ages 🤣
At this point why he has ever even included magical creatures in his plot beyond the bare minimum🤣 “What was the Aragorn’s tax policy?” type of questions now bite him back, because he can’t answer anymore on the questions circa: “What language do the weirwoods speak?”
@@kosatochcaThey speak tree
So when will he be finished in 5 years? I know he hates when fans say this but will he even be alive by then. He’s old now, back in 2012 he was old and fans were saying it then, but now I am genuinely beginning to believe he cannot finish it
What exactly did George say he was ‘losing confidence with the whole idea’ about? Glass candles generally?
Monstrous human dragon hybrids make an appearance in Elden Ring, in several forms.
Magma Wyrms in that game, are the transformed bodies of devotees of Dragon Communion. This cult is based on the consumption of dragon hearts, which confers powers upon the participants, but eventually overcomes those who go to far.
Also, dragonkin soldiers are failed attempts to use silver-tear mimicry, to create beings with features of humans and dragons.
These experiments were done in ancient times by the Nox, a civilization fallen victim to the ire of a supposed god.
George only came up with names for that game, I don’t think he was involved with concept art or character design
@@frankcommatobe8009 No he was said to be involved in the story.
@@frankcommatobe8009 George wrote much more than names.
He wrote and created the entire setting and the foundations of the lore.
The relationship between George's work for elden ring and the finished game, is similar to the relationship between a DnD setting's lore as written in a book, then that same setting in actual play as interpreted by the DM.
Also there is Rykard, who merged with a god-serpent living in a volcano, similar to the fyrewyrms in valyria.
I’m dubious how much of the game’s lore George was even involved with. He never seems to talk in any kind of specifics when talking about ER. I think he probably just handed Miyazaki a few pages of rough lore and that was enough to put his name on the box.
"Not even to stage 2"... is a terrifying thought.
Hey Preston, have you heard of the unreleased Russian version of Brienne meets Stoneheart? It has signifcant changes from the published material. It's very illuminating.
That sounds very interesting...will have to try and find that (I hope it's not in Russian).
@@Gekokujo76 Search this ''GRRM's draft of the last two Brienne chapters recovered from Russian translation''
@@unknownsoldier452 For the sake of Seven, this isn’t canon, WTF? Where from did they even get this material in the first place? I’ve read the Russian variant, are there more changes?
First time listener, enjoyed the conversation! Assuming that 75% mean around 1,200 of 1,600 pages written? Be interesting to see if this is now post this book's version of the meereenese knot or prior... if post then hoping the last 400 pages can be done by this time next year. If not, then it may be a while further :')
I wouldn’t put too much stock into what George says about progress honestly
I cant believe you just used University of Texas and ATM interchangeably.
Wait, from Rosie's perspective do we have confirmation that she had a deal or some arrangement with Jaqen to manipulate Pate to steal all that stuff for him?
_OR_ Rosie is actually [the character readers would know as] Jaqen H’.
@@Ancor_Vantian 😂