Idk why i started watching all of your vids like this even though i've not been playing the game for years, but when there's commentary i gotta say it is entertaining. Also, i love that like 99% of the time you don't flame at all but that ranting against nautilus on the 2nd smolder game was funny
18:48 Rell top casually killing Renekton with Thornmail and Sunfire. This Renekton will have nightmares and will for sure buy Cleaver first next time he sees Rell top lol
2:26:24 - Jinx (High Elo, No Commentary) -> actually starts at 2:36:24 ? 10 mins off i main MF (badly) and am learning Jinx. thank you for showing your games
Actually, that timestamp seems to lead to an Ezreal game, not a Jinx game, and as far as I can tell they're all timestamped correctly to the start of each game. Are you maybe thinking of a different video? Edit: I've found the video you were referring to, it was my most recent video, not this one. And the timestamp was indeed incorrect, thank you for pointing it out.
Hey vapora, new viewer but i love the chill vibes and this has helped me a lot since im new to lol My friend tells me LDR is useless since it lost a passive (idk what the passive acc was since im new), and that antiheal/anything else is better now But you still build LDR, is it still worth into heavy armour comps? How niche is it? Ty
Well it's all about prespective. Is LDR worse than before? Yes. But you it's also the only (with Mortal Reminder) anti-tank-tons-of-armor item you can get as an ADC. What else can you buy with armor penetration? You get that or MR, and that's it (Unless you do a lethality build ofc, not the most common one on adc...). But that's enough for a crit ADC, in fact the most common way of building crit-based ADC atm is main item (Usually Collector, IE or maybe Yun Tal) -> complementary second item (generally more crit and AS) -> your armor pen item (LDR or MR) -> and now you generally go more towards survivability... This varies a lot depending on enemy comp, your comp, your actual champ, if you can auto a lot or not, so maybe Bloodthirster? QSS? GA? Maw?? Or just more damage? It depends. Hope it helps!
A lot of people, like your friend, have just massively overreacted to LDR losing its Giant Slayer passive, which made you deal up to 15% extra damage against champions with much more HP than you. Because LDR lost this passive while Mortal Reminder lost nothing (at least at first), people thought LDR sucked now, even though they'd previously been happy to build it even in games with no tanks, just because they could get very minor damage boosts against non-tanks who still had more HP than them. But the reality is, whether LDR is a weak item or not, Mortal Reminder is literally the same item but with a niche counterpick stat (antiheal) added onto it; a stat which doesn't do anything if the enemy team doesn't have healing. Especially now it costs 200 more gold to build MR and also has 5% less armor pen, it makes no sense to pay that price just to not actually decrease any healing. If you build MR vs comps that aren't focused on healing, you can find your Mortal Reminder only reduced 15 HP regen throughout an entire fight. Even though plenty of champs build lifesteal, you're not guaranteed to be hitting those exact champions, or at the exact time where they're going to be lifestealing. You might clean up a Viego when he was 4 hits from death and he spends those 4 hits running for his life; no lifesteal to reduce there. So it's not that LDR is niche vs high armor comps, it's Mortal Reminder that is niche against healing. Even if MR is stronger against healing than LDR is against high armor/tanky comps, and because of that you want to make the argument that LDR is weak, it still isn't a reason to build MR in games where MR doesn't make sense.
That was an insane game, the 5th game, Jinx with no commentary. What a turnaround considering your team was getting hammered early (thats how it looked to me anyways). As a new player I find it hard to see why kills doesnt equal win. What won this game for you guys? How did the enemy team not snowball? I see the gold advantage was in your teams favour, was that just from better farm? Thanks!
It looks like no one could deal with Shyvana's splitpush threat, and I was stronger than anyone on the enemy team, including being able to outpoke Vel'Koz with my RFC. We also had the gold lead from 30 minutes, our better farm was probably a big factor, but so was Shyvana's splitpush getting 2 turrets, the 2 kills my team got in our jungle, and whatever bounties we'd obtained throughout the game from behind. The enemies peaked at a 4.5k gold lead at 15 minutes, and a 4.4k gold lead at 25 minutes, but when we ended the game at 37 minutes, we had an 8k gold lead even while still being 6 kills down, which was mostly from objectives and possibly bounties.
Yeah Smolder feels so bad to play, so weak early game, the mobility is almost useless in TF without walls around, the W does no damage, you can't use other abilities while Eing, 30min in and you're still behind most ADCs in terms of damage, and the poke is barely better. I fail to see the point of playing him after testing him out, honestly.
I've ended Master 150 LP the last 4 splits, and my climbs always look like this. Climbing on ADC is always very slow if you don't have Challenger mechanics, since ADC macro is very dependant on teammates, meaning the only way to stomp on ADC is mechanically outplaying everything. And my mechanics aren't Challenger level, so my climbs on ADC are very slow, but always end in Master regardless.
Idk why i started watching all of your vids like this even though i've not been playing the game for years, but when there's commentary i gotta say it is entertaining.
Also, i love that like 99% of the time you don't flame at all but that ranting against nautilus on the 2nd smolder game was funny
i love that you used the 2xko jinx in the thumbnail 🔥
Love this videos, keep it up, very instructive
my god that escape on 1:49:33 is insane , wp
18:48 Rell top casually killing Renekton with Thornmail and Sunfire. This Renekton will have nightmares and will for sure buy Cleaver first next time he sees Rell top lol
Can you show your in-game graphics settings?
Really like this type of video
2:26:24 - Jinx (High Elo, No Commentary) -> actually starts at 2:36:24 ? 10 mins off
i main MF (badly) and am learning Jinx. thank you for showing your games
Thank you for pointing that out!
Actually, that timestamp seems to lead to an Ezreal game, not a Jinx game, and as far as I can tell they're all timestamped correctly to the start of each game. Are you maybe thinking of a different video?
Edit: I've found the video you were referring to, it was my most recent video, not this one. And the timestamp was indeed incorrect, thank you for pointing it out.
Hey vapora, new viewer but i love the chill vibes and this has helped me a lot since im new to lol
My friend tells me LDR is useless since it lost a passive (idk what the passive acc was since im new), and that antiheal/anything else is better now
But you still build LDR, is it still worth into heavy armour comps? How niche is it? Ty
The old passive was %HP.
There is no anti HP for adcs anymore. Just LDR for heavy armor, and the not so great anti heal.
Well it's all about prespective. Is LDR worse than before? Yes. But you it's also the only (with Mortal Reminder) anti-tank-tons-of-armor item you can get as an ADC. What else can you buy with armor penetration? You get that or MR, and that's it (Unless you do a lethality build ofc, not the most common one on adc...). But that's enough for a crit ADC, in fact the most common way of building crit-based ADC atm is main item (Usually Collector, IE or maybe Yun Tal) -> complementary second item (generally more crit and AS) -> your armor pen item (LDR or MR) -> and now you generally go more towards survivability... This varies a lot depending on enemy comp, your comp, your actual champ, if you can auto a lot or not, so maybe Bloodthirster? QSS? GA? Maw?? Or just more damage? It depends. Hope it helps!
A lot of people, like your friend, have just massively overreacted to LDR losing its Giant Slayer passive, which made you deal up to 15% extra damage against champions with much more HP than you. Because LDR lost this passive while Mortal Reminder lost nothing (at least at first), people thought LDR sucked now, even though they'd previously been happy to build it even in games with no tanks, just because they could get very minor damage boosts against non-tanks who still had more HP than them.
But the reality is, whether LDR is a weak item or not, Mortal Reminder is literally the same item but with a niche counterpick stat (antiheal) added onto it; a stat which doesn't do anything if the enemy team doesn't have healing. Especially now it costs 200 more gold to build MR and also has 5% less armor pen, it makes no sense to pay that price just to not actually decrease any healing. If you build MR vs comps that aren't focused on healing, you can find your Mortal Reminder only reduced 15 HP regen throughout an entire fight. Even though plenty of champs build lifesteal, you're not guaranteed to be hitting those exact champions, or at the exact time where they're going to be lifestealing. You might clean up a Viego when he was 4 hits from death and he spends those 4 hits running for his life; no lifesteal to reduce there.
So it's not that LDR is niche vs high armor comps, it's Mortal Reminder that is niche against healing. Even if MR is stronger against healing than LDR is against high armor/tanky comps, and because of that you want to make the argument that LDR is weak, it still isn't a reason to build MR in games where MR doesn't make sense.
That was an insane game, the 5th game, Jinx with no commentary. What a turnaround considering your team was getting hammered early (thats how it looked to me anyways).
As a new player I find it hard to see why kills doesnt equal win. What won this game for you guys? How did the enemy team not snowball? I see the gold advantage was in your teams favour, was that just from better farm?
Thanks!
It looks like no one could deal with Shyvana's splitpush threat, and I was stronger than anyone on the enemy team, including being able to outpoke Vel'Koz with my RFC. We also had the gold lead from 30 minutes, our better farm was probably a big factor, but so was Shyvana's splitpush getting 2 turrets, the 2 kills my team got in our jungle, and whatever bounties we'd obtained throughout the game from behind.
The enemies peaked at a 4.5k gold lead at 15 minutes, and a 4.4k gold lead at 25 minutes, but when we ended the game at 37 minutes, we had an 8k gold lead even while still being 6 kills down, which was mostly from objectives and possibly bounties.
@ thanks so much for the detailed replies dude
how can you track gold vs emerald? :D
Porofessor app
lol first the janna, now the nautilus🤡
Yeah Smolder feels so bad to play, so weak early game, the mobility is almost useless in TF without walls around, the W does no damage, you can't use other abilities while Eing, 30min in and you're still behind most ADCs in terms of damage, and the poke is barely better. I fail to see the point of playing him after testing him out, honestly.
You can barely can make it to D5 tho
I've ended Master 150 LP the last 4 splits, and my climbs always look like this. Climbing on ADC is always very slow if you don't have Challenger mechanics, since ADC macro is very dependant on teammates, meaning the only way to stomp on ADC is mechanically outplaying everything.
And my mechanics aren't Challenger level, so my climbs on ADC are very slow, but always end in Master regardless.