Woah woah woah, "You can trace the XK's chassis back to the XJS"? Steve, totally wrong. The 2nd gen XK has/had an aluminium monocoque, in fact the F-Type uses a heavily modified & cut down version of it (hence the F's slight weight problem).
Yes the previous model x100 shared xjs under pinning to save money when designed and helped boost flagging Jaguar sales which it did and helped save Jag from going under as its gorgeous design sold massively in the U.S.
The Jaguar XK, though I've never driven it yet, it has changed my life. Back in 1998, when I was 6, I played my first ever computer game - Need For Speed III: Hot Pursuit. And it featured a Jaguar XK8. Though all other cars were faster, more exotic, it's the XK8 that got my attention. It was the first car I ever looked into (books and journals then, obviously), therefore, Jaguar XK helped me to become a petrolhead. I will be ever so grateful to it even though its production has ceased. Thank you, XK, for changing the course of my life. :)
The XKR is one of the most beautiful cars ever made imo. It's a dignified performance GT rather than just another tiny sports car, and it has some breathtaking curves, especially in the "hips". Absolutely in love with it in every way.
Agreed, just as Mercedes resurrected the SL I hope Jag does the same with the XK. With good marketing there's enough room in Jag's lineup for the F-Type, XK and SUVs
I hope Jaguar brings back the XK. I like the F-type but the XK is marvelous, a timeless car. It must bring it back, renewed, more improved. It's a big mistake not producing it again.
I kind of tuned out after sutcliff said the x150 can trace its platform lineage back to the XJS. As one of the engineers involved in both the x100 and x150 can say this is wrong. The x150 was a totally new platform conpared to the x100 and XJS before it
Having erroneously referred to the XK 'chassis' as stemming from the XJS (which it does not) everything else in the video cannot be trusted. I've driven both over long distances - one is a GT and the other a Sports Car. You wouldn't want to hustle corners in an XK and you wouldn't want to drive long distances in an F-Type. I prefer the XK because it does more: Adequate performance, good handling, excellent ride, more space, more comfort, better looking and now, a lot more affordable!
F type is one of the best looking cars ever, but when you put them next to each other I am not sure... XK might be better looking.. hmm. Anyway, amazing looking cars.
totally agree with that. i've seen both in person but i'd have to say the hips on a black XK and the nod to the E-Type in the grille make it better looking than the new F
I think the XK looks better than the f type, and it's still a fresh looking thing compared to the bmw 6 series and mercedes SL. Would love to own one of these things
***** Sour grapes my friend. You'll get over it when you buy the R Coupe. The R Coupe is a true sports car. The M6 and SL are grand tours. They are nice GT cars but are not in the same league as the R Coupe. I never thought I would be saying that. Great job Jaguar and Tata! Tata is the deep pocket that has allowed Jag to finally compete with the Germans. I am loving these times in the Auto industry!!!
My Jag has beaten every car there is if it's stock!Audi R8's,all ugly ass mercedes and BMW's,Dodge Viper RT,GTS,AND SRT10's.Beaten A Ferrari 550 Maranello,2013 Mustang GT500,2009Corvette Z06.The only thing that has EVER beaten my 2008 Jaguar XKR is a 2014 Chevy SS that had a shit load of professional mods done to it.Other than that,my jag has damn near destroyed all of the so called competition!Only thing left to say is please don't take your weak ugly ass BMW or Mercedes and try to race me with it,because I will make you sell the hell out that ugly shit lmao
Disappointed by this - so many fundamental errors (e.g. the current XK was all-new in 2007 and bears no relationship whatever to the previous XK nor to the XJS) and the descriptions of the two cars' behaviour and how he'd like the next XK to shape up are very vague and uninformative.
It's 2023 and I still can't accept that we will never have another XJ or XK. Those are cars that define Jaguar. It's like Mercedes dropping the S Class or BMW cancelling the M4/M3. These are cars that define the brand. They are what you see in your head the second you hear Jaguar.
As viewed from 2022, believe you will find that it is the XK150 (XK and XKR) that has emerged as the true classic, particularly in post 2010 (USA) form. A thoroughgoing GT, with plenty of understated style and comfort, plus tremendous real world performance. Notably, the XKR is one of the quickest true grand touring coupes ever made. Yes, the previous 1990's X100 platform (sold through 2006) did indeed date back to the XJS - and actually even further back to Jag's late 70's Project 40. The X150 - an all alloy design - has its origins in the aluminum alloy X350 (XJ and XJR) platform. The F type is fundamentally also of this design generation, albeit a smaller and lighter car altogether. In other words, apples and oranges
The XKR and F-Type R are the only 2 cars I can see in my garage in the future next to a Ducati Panigale V4R, I’m only 26 now so this seems like a dream but it will be reality👌🏾
Some of the 'facts' in this article are wrong. The XK has no chassis link back to the XJS. Furthermore, the F-Type IS a shortened XK platform. i.e. the front & rear are common to both vehicles, so to state that one has commonality with the XJS whilst the other is much more modern is wrong. This is common knowledge, so I'm amazed he stated it !
Lewis72 he also said the F type was more comfortable on the same road. I've been in both a fully blown XKR-S and also the F type R AWD, and the F type was noticeably more jiggly / rough over poor roads. The XK is still the more "wafty" of the two.
Strange review indeed. Six weeks ago I finally bought myself a used 2013 XK. Why? Because I did not like the F Type - not only because I am 6.4 (the F Type is made for tiny people only), but also because it drives smoother, the V8 sound is nicer (the stupid crackling noises of the F Type get annoying quickly), even the six speed seems at least equal … ah, about everything just feels better. The XK feels so safe on the German Autobahn whereas the F Type scared me (not only because side and back visibility is a catastrophe). Yes, XK's electronic systems are not up to date, but who cares if everything else feels just perfect. In short, I don’t understand the F Type hype at all.
The face of this XK R Dynamic (the XK's regular face) looks so much sweeter than the aggressively, grimacing 'try hard' look of the XKR-S. The original XK8 in 1996 looked a bit awkward from its debut imo, but has since grown into a really nice looking car. I hope the replacement will be just as good, and then some.
Just make the next XJ redesign have a coupe counterpart that competes with the Rolls Royce Wraith and Bentley GT. Jaguar needs a big luxury touring coupe that can actually seat 4 people comfortably.
dham629 Yeah Jag needs a jag version of the Maserati Granturismo. thats faster, quicker, better ride, better handling, smaller outside/bigger inside, better navtronics for 1/2 the price.!
I felt compelled to add my comments to this video, Firstly let me state that the XK is a 2+2 ie 4 seats.... whereas the F type is a two seater, therefore its like comparing apples to pears for a start. Secondary I have just taken delivery of a brand new XK Signature Convertible that only has 385 BHP...... gosh how do I cope I mean getting to 60mph in 5.3 seconds I mean its just not good enough let alone the 0-100 times of 10.2 seconds....... Let me just dispel any myths about this car - I have owned and driven many of fast cars, twin turbo V6 etc and all I can say is this "old" XK is simply just awesome and even sounds amazing, so if theres anyone thinking of a XK - go ahead and buy one because you wont regret it they are amazing, and in many ways IMO they are the F types more distinguished older brother... I feel I can say this on confidence as I driven both car myself - the XK don't forget is marketed as a GT car....... Rant over.......These guys just bug me when they bang on about not being fast enough and steering not responsive enough....all I say is fkin BullSh!t. These cars are superb and still turn heads, go ahead buy one you wont regret it!!!
I still lust over the original XKR and the XJR of the same time. My dream 2 car garage is a black XKR Coupe and a matching black XJR. And possibly a black S-Type R to daily. It's crazy to imagine that these were all sold as new cars at the same time! The early 2000s are peak Jaguar for me.
They definitely produced some great cars during the Ford years. They also produced some stinkers, like the X-Type. My dream garage looks a lot like yours. However I think I'd swap out the S-Type R for an XF-R to daily. Would be happy with either though!
Steve - you're wrong. First, the XK that you're driving in this video is built on Jaguar's aluminum architecture first seen in the 2009 XJ - so there is NO XJ-S DNA in the XK - at all - full stop. Secondly, the F type is built on a truncated XK chassis - essentially an XK with a shortened boot. If you don't believe me, take a tour at the Castle Bromwich plant where F Type's are built and ask the engineers yourself....like I did. You're considered a trusted source - so do your homework mate!
One must be under six feet tall and less than 200 pounds to appreciate the F-type. I found it claustrophobic and bought an XKR. I'm 6'3" and weight 225 pounds.
I have a 2007 XKR and I wouldn't change it for an F-Type. (I would however for an XKR-S). I think the F-Type is a kid's car, while the XKR is a gentleman's car. By the way, I don't have to ask my girl to keep my jacket, while I drive her to dinner out... (That's what those two rear seats are there for, to take the extra luggage(!), while an F-Type has NO room for a week-end bag!). With the F-Type, Jaguar is trying to compete with the 911. That's not what Jag Lovers want. We want a Grand Tourer (with an R), not a Kart...
Same opinion her , i have an XKR 2007 & wouldnt change it with anything but the XKR-S . As for the girlfriend , we both can have lots of them just when we park our XKR infront of any place . Its an eye contact , attractive as well
As much as the XK has become essentially irrelevant, to a more or less extend because of the F-Type, I can't help but say I'm going to miss it. The XK along with the XF really marked a new beginning for Jag not so long ago & look where they've ended up. It's great to see Jag back to their full potential making some of the most desirable cars in the world. I also think the XF might actually be prettier in red than the F-Type at least in the spec they both came in seen here...
What are you talking about? Neither car has a 'chassis' - both are monocoque all aluminium construction and the XK platform was entirely new - no DNA route to any previous Jaguars - not even the previous all steel X100. Also, having driven both, the lighter F-Type has a harder ride and a noisier cabin and is more of a sports car than the XK which is a very comfortable Grand Tourer.
A good friend of mine has owned both the XKR (Past car) and the F-type convertible V6S (current) and I must say, as much as I LOVE the F-type's styling but more than anything the SOUND it produces, I still prefer the beautiful curves of the XK... I don't know, it's just the XK to me is so much classier...perhaps it's the fact that I'm getting old and thus like the "classier" model. -HP
xkr got better headlights,better looking front grill and hood.The only the the F-type got going for it is a better looking rear end and better looking taillights.Give the XKR and F-type rear end and the XKR will be the most beautiful car ever created
I am a Used Car Buyer and I have just taken delivery of a xk 4 years old 12k on the clock Its a fantastic car and I use it for very long trips all over Europe In three years time I will conceder the F Type The huge draw back is Luggage Space where the XK has loads The XK is a Grand Tourer The F Type is not ??? I know in three years XKs in Jaguar Dealerships will be few on the ground But If I can buy one of the last ones I may well just do that Both stunning cars
Lot of people think the ck is more comfy , I know of a guy who went in to by the f type but came out with the xkr . Your the first I've hered of to say the f type is better .
You're comparing apples with oranges, of course they're different, they were designed to be! One's a GT, the other well, err, it isn't! The XK is far and away the more beautiful car to look at, I have yet to meet anyone who disputes that. As for value for money, that's a no brainer, get yourself a £70k+ Jaguar XK now for ten grand while you still can!
Lol at 2:57 he says the F-Type is roomier and a more comfortable driving position even tough the XK is the grand tourer and the F type is the cramped sports car.
Sad that he's wrong about most things. The chassis in the XK was totally new, and the F-Type is basically a shorter version of it. The gearbox in both is a ZF fully automatic, no semi auto in either.
Steve Sutcliffe talking out of his ass here. The x100 which looked really different was XJS based. This car the x150 has a bonded and riveted aluminium monocoque chassis and uses an all-aluminium construction, quite similar to how the F-Type is built. Autocar you should be ashamed being a car mag and posting something like this on the internet!!!
Hmmm... I'm 6ft 3ins tall and my Jags have ranged from a n E-Type convertible in 1970 through three big XJs, an XF and now an XKR (2007, all ali 4.2-litre supercharged V8). The problem is space, I first wanted an XK8. Salesman said: "If we cut your head off and about 8-inches off your legs, you'll be comfortable. Seriously sir, DON'T BUY IT. I bought a Merc CLS instead. But I love Jags. The XF-S followed, and retirement present to me is the XKR, which was finally designed for people taller than munchkins. But I want the roll-out 2014 XK Dynamic R as, I think, my last car. Wife and I are arguing about the colour...Any offers?
As a previous XKRS owner and a current R Coupe owner I agree with everything he said. The interesting thing is the R Coupe doesn't feel as fast in a straight line. That is because the suspension is better and it is much more rigid. The feeling of speed in many cars is the body twisting and the suspension struggling to handle the torque. The F Type is a much better car than the XKRS. It is so much more enjoyable to be in the R Coupe. I think the XKRS in black or dark gray looks better than the R Coupe. It looks more special and more menacing. That and the extra storage is what I miss about the XKRS.
I'd pick the legendary XK over the toyish F-type. It's a timeless GT and no other Jag can replace it. I hope Jaguar brings it back in production. It's an expensive car to run and insure but I still want it.
Kaipeternicolas I understand what you mean. To be honest I do kind of agree with you, its just reviewers and companies have been using the word semi auto gearbox for years. to try and make it sound less Civil. eg. the new 540hp F-type is an automatic. instead they'll say its a semi auto, because you can change gear with your fingers etc. I do agree with you but the word semi auto has become the norm nowadays for companies to make their autos sound more sporty. (sorry for long post :/ )
LP640Murcielago Ya I read it sometimes here and there where they claim it's a semi automatic or they call a single clutch sequential automatic. As a journalist, I can't accept wrong facts. My family is in the car magazine business so I do have a bit of a background ;) But glad you understand my point :)
crossover instead of xk, won't even comment on that. xk was a gt that you could drive from france to scotland without being tired, f type is just a toy.
Thanks for all folks' reply. As I'll go to UK for holiday a few days, I just wonder if the scene is somewhere nearby the places I will go, and see if I can make it in my road trip as well.
I understand Jag's decision to not make a new XK. They're gonna make an XJ Coupe, so I don't see how they could make room between that and the F-Type for a new XK.
I am a Jag Master Tech of 19 years. I drive them and work on them everyday and would take an XKR over Ftype all day long. The XKR is a real quality, well made and designed car. The Ftype is just a cheap trash toy in comparison and is annoying EVERY time you start it and the engine `flares` making you look like like a massive dickhead, especially when you are trying to just start it quietly at 1am. The XKR does it all, with more quality.
@@dr.strange1523 Me too and I appreciate the difference between the two. The XK has been out a long time and it only became "good" when it got a supercharged 5.0 V8 to push it along. The XK's interior is dated and the look is "classic" being a GT cruiser whilst the F type is a more of a GT sports car and both of their abilities are far greater than that of the average driver The F Type range has yet to develop as the XK has but it's got a great start but do hope they bring back a RWD model. However saying that I also have an XF Portfolio 5.0 V8 and with only 385 BHP still far more than what's needed on public roads but I think it has the true Jaguar ethos of - Grace Space Pace. It's the oldest one of the bunch and yet still has some better functions than the other two that should be standard with these models. The F Type is far from a cheap trashy toy, it's a very reasonably priced, practical and capable 550 BHP grown up play thing. that not many Jag Master Techs get to really appreciate and I consider the engine flare a great security as no one heard a thing when my friend had his electric car stolen at 1 am in the morning !!!!
I want to know how much it costs to produce such a video. Just having a good informative test driver driving these cars on a b-road is seriously good enough to me. And judging by myself i dont think this kinda video will cost awful alot dough regardless autocar is a mag. So yeah, think about this DRIVE+.
Only thing good about the F-type is that it's all wheel drive.Also The rear end design looks better than the XK.Those 2 things are the only things it have that the XK could use to make it even better than an F-Type
Woah woah woah, "You can trace the XK's chassis back to the XJS"? Steve, totally wrong. The 2nd gen XK has/had an aluminium monocoque, in fact the F-Type uses a heavily modified & cut down version of it (hence the F's slight weight problem).
Jonny S this is correct. The lead body engineer is one of my good friends.... and the chassis is aluminum!!!! Not a XJS!!!
Aldo the XJS used a chassis (well, monocoque) very similar to the original '68 XJ so you would point to that.
Yes the previous model x100 shared xjs under pinning to save money when designed and helped boost flagging Jaguar sales which it did and helped save Jag from going under as its gorgeous design sold massively in the U.S.
The Jaguar XK, though I've never driven it yet, it has changed my life. Back in 1998, when I was 6, I played my first ever computer game - Need For Speed III: Hot Pursuit. And it featured a Jaguar XK8. Though all other cars were faster, more exotic, it's the XK8 that got my attention. It was the first car I ever looked into (books and journals then, obviously), therefore, Jaguar XK helped me to become a petrolhead. I will be ever so grateful to it even though its production has ceased. Thank you, XK, for changing the course of my life. :)
***** I could, but it's the running costs that scare me. It does like 25 mpg, which, for a first car, isn't a wise move, to be honest haha
***** Absolutely. Just need to get the money for an XK8
My God man... buy a 2015 XKR and enjoy yourself you deserve it!!
What a story to share with fellow petrolheads. I hope you've had the chance to enjoy your very own XK by now.
There's nothing I'd rather have than an XK. Simply my favorite car. The F-Type is amazing, but there's something special about the XK.
Sigurd Hegland well said
The XKR is one of the most beautiful cars ever made imo. It's a dignified performance GT rather than just another tiny sports car, and it has some breathtaking curves, especially in the "hips".
Absolutely in love with it in every way.
I agree. I just bought one. I adore it.
did you get one yet
Agreed, just as Mercedes resurrected the SL I hope Jag does the same with the XK. With good marketing there's enough room in Jag's lineup for the F-Type, XK and SUVs
I hope Jaguar brings back the XK. I like the F-type but the XK is marvelous, a timeless car. It must bring it back, renewed, more improved. It's a big mistake not producing it again.
I kind of tuned out after sutcliff said the x150 can trace its platform lineage back to the XJS. As one of the engineers involved in both the x100 and x150 can say this is wrong. The x150 was a totally new platform conpared to the x100 and XJS before it
Having erroneously referred to the XK 'chassis' as stemming from the XJS (which it does not) everything else in the video cannot be trusted. I've driven both over long distances - one is a GT and the other a Sports Car.
You wouldn't want to hustle corners in an XK and you wouldn't want to drive long distances in an F-Type.
I prefer the XK because it does more: Adequate performance, good handling, excellent ride, more space, more comfort, better looking and now, a lot more affordable!
F type is one of the best looking cars ever, but when you put them next to each other I am not sure... XK might be better looking.. hmm. Anyway, amazing looking cars.
Totally agree. The XK is quite a beautiful thing.
The arse end of the F-Type is ugly as sin
It's far too flat.
I couldnt agree more. Both Beautiful but for some reason I'm drawn to the XK more.
Might??? The XK is one of the most beautiful cars ever. The F Type....well not so much
totally agree with that. i've seen both in person but i'd have to say the hips on a black XK and the nod to the E-Type in the grille make it better looking than the new F
In 2020 the XK has aged well
I think the XK looks better than the f type, and it's still a fresh looking thing compared to the bmw 6 series and mercedes SL.
Would love to own one of these things
***** Sour grapes my friend. You'll get over it when you buy the R Coupe. The R Coupe is a true sports car. The M6 and SL are grand tours. They are nice GT cars but are not in the same league as the R Coupe. I never thought I would be saying that. Great job Jaguar and Tata! Tata is the deep pocket that has allowed Jag to finally compete with the Germans. I am loving these times in the Auto industry!!!
But they don't look as good lol
My Jag has beaten every car there is if it's stock!Audi R8's,all ugly ass mercedes and BMW's,Dodge Viper RT,GTS,AND SRT10's.Beaten A Ferrari 550 Maranello,2013 Mustang GT500,2009Corvette Z06.The only thing that has EVER beaten my 2008 Jaguar XKR is a 2014 Chevy SS that had a shit load of professional mods done to it.Other than that,my jag has damn near destroyed all of the so called competition!Only thing left to say is please don't take your weak ugly ass BMW or Mercedes and try to race me with it,because I will make you sell the hell out that ugly shit lmao
@@lionyleftwich4418 Man chill.
@@user-we8nc7fl7b LoL 😎
Disappointed by this - so many fundamental errors (e.g. the current XK was all-new in 2007 and bears no relationship whatever to the previous XK nor to the XJS) and the descriptions of the two cars' behaviour and how he'd like the next XK to shape up are very vague and uninformative.
I drove a 2013 XK today and it actually did remind me of my 67 XKE.
I think the XK is a more effortlessly elegant looking car than the F Type. Regardless, Jag makes some good looking coupes.
It's 2023 and I still can't accept that we will never have another XJ or XK. Those are cars that define Jaguar. It's like Mercedes dropping the S Class or BMW cancelling the M4/M3. These are cars that define the brand. They are what you see in your head the second you hear Jaguar.
As viewed from 2022, believe you will find that it is the XK150 (XK and XKR) that has emerged as the true classic, particularly in post 2010 (USA) form. A thoroughgoing GT, with plenty of understated style and comfort, plus tremendous real world performance. Notably, the XKR is one of the quickest true grand touring coupes ever made.
Yes, the previous 1990's X100 platform (sold through 2006) did indeed date back to the XJS - and actually even further back to Jag's late 70's Project 40. The X150 - an all alloy design - has its origins in the aluminum alloy X350 (XJ and XJR) platform. The F type is fundamentally also of this design generation, albeit a smaller and lighter car altogether. In other words, apples and oranges
The XKR and F-Type R are the only 2 cars I can see in my garage in the future next to a Ducati Panigale V4R, I’m only 26 now so this seems like a dream but it will be reality👌🏾
@@NudaMan That's my kind of garage. May you achieve it sooner than you think!
Some of the 'facts' in this article are wrong.
The XK has no chassis link back to the XJS. Furthermore, the F-Type IS a shortened XK platform. i.e. the front & rear are common to both vehicles, so to state that one has commonality with the XJS whilst the other is much more modern is wrong.
This is common knowledge, so I'm amazed he stated it !
Lewis72 he also said the F type was more comfortable on the same road. I've been in both a fully blown XKR-S and also the F type R AWD, and the F type was noticeably more jiggly / rough over poor roads. The XK is still the more "wafty" of the two.
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Yes, it would seem as though his info is concerning the X100 car and not the X150.
Strange review indeed. Six weeks ago I finally bought myself a used 2013 XK. Why? Because I did not like the F
Type - not only because I am 6.4 (the F Type is made for tiny people only), but also because it drives smoother, the V8 sound is nicer (the stupid crackling noises of the F Type get annoying quickly), even the six speed seems at least equal … ah, about everything just feels better. The XK feels so safe on the German Autobahn whereas the F Type scared me (not only because side and back visibility is a catastrophe). Yes, XK's electronic systems are not up to date, but who cares if everything else feels just perfect. In short, I don’t understand the F Type hype at all.
Lewis72 this guy is great I love him.... but holy Crap he don’t k is his asshole from his elbow about the best car ever made..... the 11-15 XKR!!!
The face of this XK R Dynamic (the XK's regular face) looks so much sweeter than the aggressively, grimacing 'try hard' look of the XKR-S. The original XK8 in 1996 looked a bit awkward from its debut imo, but has since grown into a really nice looking car. I hope the replacement will be just as good, and then some.
Just make the next XJ redesign have a coupe counterpart that competes with the Rolls Royce Wraith and Bentley GT. Jaguar needs a big luxury touring coupe that can actually seat 4 people comfortably.
dham629 Yeah Jag needs a jag version of the Maserati Granturismo. thats faster, quicker, better ride, better handling, smaller outside/bigger inside, better navtronics for 1/2 the price.!
@@porter8895 uhhh they do.It's called XJR or an XFR...Whichever look you prefer out of the titanic boat family car model jaguars
I felt compelled to add my comments to this video, Firstly let me state that the XK is a 2+2 ie 4 seats.... whereas the F type is a two seater, therefore its like comparing apples to pears for a start. Secondary I have just taken delivery of a brand new XK Signature Convertible that only has 385 BHP...... gosh how do I cope I mean getting to 60mph in 5.3 seconds I mean its just not good enough let alone the 0-100 times of 10.2 seconds.......
Let me just dispel any myths about this car - I have owned and driven many of fast cars, twin turbo V6 etc and all I can say is this "old" XK is simply just awesome and even sounds amazing, so if theres anyone thinking of a XK - go ahead and buy one because you wont regret it they are amazing, and in many ways IMO they are the F types more distinguished older brother...
I feel I can say this on confidence as I driven both car myself - the XK don't forget is marketed as a GT car.......
Rant over.......These guys just bug me when they bang on about not being fast enough and steering not responsive enough....all I say is fkin BullSh!t. These cars are superb and still turn heads, go ahead buy one you wont regret it!!!
I wholeheartedly agree, I've driven both and I prefer the sexier, much classier XK.
i still kinda preffer the looks of the xk
I still lust over the original XKR and the XJR of the same time. My dream 2 car garage is a black XKR Coupe and a matching black XJR. And possibly a black S-Type R to daily. It's crazy to imagine that these were all sold as new cars at the same time! The early 2000s are peak Jaguar for me.
They definitely produced some great cars during the Ford years. They also produced some stinkers, like the X-Type. My dream garage looks a lot like yours. However I think I'd swap out the S-Type R for an XF-R to daily. Would be happy with either though!
Steve - you're wrong. First, the XK that you're driving in this video is built on Jaguar's aluminum architecture first seen in the 2009 XJ - so there is NO XJ-S DNA in the XK - at all - full stop. Secondly, the F type is built on a truncated XK chassis - essentially an XK with a shortened boot. If you don't believe me, take a tour at the Castle Bromwich plant where F Type's are built and ask the engineers yourself....like I did. You're considered a trusted source - so do your homework mate!
The XK is a more elegant and beautiful car. I would prefer it over the F-Type.
FType is a roadster. XK is a GT.
One must be under six feet tall and less than 200 pounds to appreciate the F-type. I found it claustrophobic and bought an XKR. I'm 6'3" and weight 225 pounds.
yeh weight doesn't mean anything. lenght, yes
I have a 2007 XKR and I wouldn't change it for an F-Type. (I would however for an XKR-S). I think the F-Type is a kid's car, while the XKR is a gentleman's car. By the way, I don't have to ask my girl to keep my jacket, while I drive her to dinner out... (That's what those two rear seats are there for, to take the extra luggage(!), while an F-Type has NO room for a week-end bag!). With the F-Type, Jaguar is trying to compete with the 911. That's not what Jag Lovers want. We want a Grand Tourer (with an R), not a Kart...
my 2007 xkr got Totaled June 5th :'( somebody T-boned my son in it and he's in critical condition
Same opinion her , i have an XKR 2007 & wouldnt change it with anything but the XKR-S . As for the girlfriend , we both can have lots of them just when we park our XKR infront of any place . Its an eye contact , attractive as well
As much as the XK has become essentially irrelevant, to a more or less extend because of the F-Type, I can't help but say I'm going to miss it. The XK along with the XF really marked a new beginning for Jag not so long ago & look where they've ended up. It's great to see Jag back to their full potential making some of the most desirable cars in the world. I also think the XF might actually be prettier in red than the F-Type at least in the spec they both came in seen here...
Great video, great insight but i prefer XK Dynamic R over that F type. So sad that there are nomore XK,s what a darn tragedy. 🙁
What are you talking about?
Neither car has a 'chassis' - both are monocoque all aluminium construction and the XK platform was entirely new - no DNA route to any previous Jaguars - not even the previous all steel X100.
Also, having driven both, the lighter F-Type has a harder ride and a noisier cabin and is more of a sports car than the XK which is a very comfortable Grand Tourer.
A good friend of mine has owned both the XKR (Past car) and the F-type convertible V6S (current) and I must say, as much as I LOVE the F-type's styling but more than anything the SOUND it produces, I still prefer the beautiful curves of the XK...
I don't know, it's just the XK to me is so much classier...perhaps it's the fact that I'm getting old and thus like the "classier" model.
-HP
***** naw, perhaps we're getting "classier" lol
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The XK is a much prettier car... it just is... compare a razor sharp japanese car to an aston.... that’s the same comparison here!!!
Jaguar XK it's much better than F type!
lol ye they look amazing
In what way?
F-type is actually better in every way
Stripes Tutorials And More Clown. I have driven both.
xkr got better headlights,better looking front grill and hood.The only the the F-type got going for it is a better looking rear end and better looking taillights.Give the XKR and F-type rear end and the XKR will be the most beautiful car ever created
I am a Used Car Buyer and I have just taken delivery of a xk 4 years old 12k on the clock Its a fantastic car and I use it for very long trips all over Europe In three years time I will conceder the F Type The huge draw back is Luggage Space where the XK has loads The XK is a Grand Tourer The F Type is not ??? I know in three years XKs in Jaguar Dealerships will be few on the ground But If I can buy one of the last ones I may well just do that Both stunning cars
Agreed!
XK still looks amazing.
Keep it up Autocar! Now DRIVE went sell out, I'm appreciating your work even more.:)
The XKR is far, far better looking than the F-Type. Period
Wow them roads are so turning me on only if i knew where they was i would have driven there and made love to it.
both awesome cars, dont know which i like more. my fav jag is still the xj though.
They’re not designed for the same purpose. The XK is a proper GT.
At 0:12 the names are under the wrong cars lol
Lot of people think the ck is more comfy , I know of a guy who went in to by the f type but came out with the xkr . Your the first I've hered of to say the f type is better .
XK Is like a brother & F-type is like the sister of the jaguar family
The XK concept is one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. Unfortunately, as it aged the XK strayed away from that.
I hope they keep the XK as a 6-series and s-class coupe rival...come on jag you can do it!!
Where can I find these roads?
The Jaguar XK has been around since 1948.
Not 18 years as you state
I prefer the XK, think it looks better and I like a 2+2 over a 2 seater with no backseat.
Jaguar Please Bring Back the 2+2 XKR in 2021. Because Aston-Martin DB11 V8 is $234,456. 78. and the BMW 850i is $123,456. 78
0:14 mistake
Thanks for the heads-up Tomasz.
haha
You're welcome :)
nah its just hipster XD
Victor K yeah right...
I like the bordeaux colored one
Xkr all the way ,so beautifull ,long bonnet .
The style is simply magnificent.
Does anyone know what the music is that starts after the intro at around 0:05?
The xk has always been a gt car the f type is a sports car...no real comparison.
quality comments by this guy, as usual.
But I do like the XK more !
They both are beautiful I would take any of them in green British racing
Which roads are these..??
So fascinating !!!
You're comparing apples with oranges, of course they're different, they were designed to be! One's a GT, the other well, err, it isn't! The XK is far and away the more beautiful car to look at, I have yet to meet anyone who disputes that. As for value for money, that's a no brainer, get yourself a £70k+ Jaguar XK now for ten grand while you still can!
I dispute that for one 😅
Pretty sure the XK Dynamic R had the top speed limiter reset to 174mph, not 155mph as your stats say.
Still Love the XK
No more XK? Sad face. Really lovely cars.
Lol at 2:57 he says the F-Type is roomier and a more comfortable driving position even tough the XK is the grand tourer and the F type is the cramped sports car.
Can anyone tell me what uk road this is????? Thanks
I would quicker buy the XK cause I just think it looks a little bit better, but that F-type does sound incredible in person
The F-type represents an evolution in performance.
Sad that he's wrong about most things. The chassis in the XK was totally new, and the F-Type is basically a shorter version of it. The gearbox in both is a ZF fully automatic, no semi auto in either.
Steve Sutcliffe talking out of his ass here. The x100 which looked really different was XJS based. This car the x150 has a bonded and riveted aluminium monocoque chassis and uses an all-aluminium construction, quite similar to how the F-Type is built. Autocar you should be ashamed being a car mag and posting something like this on the internet!!!
I own the 2015 XK Portfolio Coupe
Where is this road?
I wish all of you car blogs would get a clue and realize that people are more interested in looking at the car than the presenter.
XK was and still is better than the F-Type. It's more usable, more refined, I think it's better looking personally and way better value.
Yet , the XKR is way better good looking .. very sexy pretty car
Hmmm... I'm 6ft 3ins tall and my Jags have ranged from a n E-Type convertible in 1970 through three big XJs, an XF and now an XKR (2007, all ali 4.2-litre supercharged V8).
The problem is space, I first wanted an XK8. Salesman said: "If we cut your head off and about 8-inches off your legs, you'll be comfortable. Seriously sir, DON'T BUY IT.
I bought a Merc CLS instead.
But I love Jags. The XF-S followed, and retirement present to me is the XKR, which was finally designed for people taller than munchkins. But I want the roll-out 2014 XK Dynamic R as, I think, my last car. Wife and I are arguing about the colour...Any offers?
Grey
At least he was honest.
Cannot bear this man
As a previous XKRS owner and a current R Coupe owner I agree with everything he said. The interesting thing is the R Coupe doesn't feel as fast in a straight line. That is because the suspension is better and it is much more rigid. The feeling of speed in many cars is the body twisting and the suspension struggling to handle the torque. The F Type is a much better car than the XKRS. It is so much more enjoyable to be in the R Coupe. I think the XKRS in black or dark gray looks better than the R Coupe. It looks more special and more menacing. That and the extra storage is what I miss about the XKRS.
I wish I could have kept both!!!
Me too!! I loved my XKRS even though I'm convinced that it was set on killing me!
I'd pick the legendary XK over the toyish F-type. It's a timeless GT and no other Jag can replace it. I hope Jaguar brings it back in production. It's an expensive car to run and insure but I still want it.
F-Type doesn't have an semi-automatic. It's a full on 8-speed auto by ZF.
he means mounted to an auto gearbox, and by semi he means paddle shift.
LP640Murcielago Well it doesn't matter what he means. IIt's just a wrong statement.
Kaipeternicolas Exactly.
Kaipeternicolas
I understand what you mean. To be honest I do kind of agree with you, its just reviewers and companies have been using the word semi auto gearbox for years. to try and make it sound less Civil. eg. the new 540hp F-type is an automatic. instead they'll say its a semi auto, because you can change gear with your fingers etc. I do agree with you but the word semi auto has become the norm nowadays for companies to make their autos sound more sporty. (sorry for long post :/ )
LP640Murcielago Ya I read it sometimes here and there where they claim it's a semi automatic or they call a single clutch sequential automatic. As a journalist, I can't accept wrong facts. My family is in the car magazine business so I do have a bit of a background ;) But glad you understand my point :)
I like my XKR!
Aren't the car titles in the beginning mixed up?
Does anyone know the soundtrack on this video?
Thanks!
Yep it's called the Jaguar 5.0 engine :)
crossover instead of xk, won't even comment on that. xk was a gt that you could drive from france to scotland without being tired, f type is just a toy.
Really bad start when the cars are wrongly identified on the opening clip!!! The XKR is on the right!!!
that guy hasnt a clue or he was scripted the details .both cars have the same chassis ffs, and the xkr shown has the 8 speed box !
You guys got the car labels around the wrong way at the start - the f-type is on the left, not the right.
The F-Type is sexy while the XK is beautiful, different sides of the same coin. Give me the XK for the highways and the F-Type for the canyons!
XKR all day
The XK is beautiful, no doubt.
But to say it looks better than the F-Type? Come on...
Imagine this. The next XK should be a GT a real GT car. $ seats 4 doors
Does anyone know the location this video was shot? Seems a nice place to drive around.
Militant Monkey - That narrows it down to about quarter of a million miles of road.
Happy hunting.
Yes, because to look for a very specific road in a place where over 80% of the roadways are minor roads is to use a map.
Thanks for all folks' reply. As I'll go to UK for holiday a few days, I just wonder if the scene is somewhere nearby the places I will go, and see if I can make it in my road trip as well.
Xkr should be made with manual transmission option
does anyone know where did steve go??
He's on /DRIVE now
XK had the best looking coupe and convertible to be made in this century to date.
It's OK you don't have to show any cutaways of the inside of the freaking vehicle just a picture of you sitting in your shorts is fine for me
Bought an xk from the showroom n 2014 and it is still a real head turner in 2021.A truly beautiful car .
I prefer my XK since I don't have to choose between which of my bitches I take with me since my beagle can go in the backseat.
The XK is way better looking
I understand Jag's decision to not make a new XK. They're gonna make an XJ Coupe, so I don't see how they could make room between that and the F-Type for a new XK.
Your wrong. Jaguar is launching a new Xk in 2017
Still XK!!!
So you want a more refined, less tail happy F-Type. Why not the V6 S?
I am a Jag Master Tech of 19 years. I drive them and work on them everyday and would take an XKR over Ftype all day long. The XKR is a real quality, well made and designed car. The Ftype is just a cheap trash toy in comparison and is annoying EVERY time you start it and the engine `flares` making you look like like a massive dickhead, especially when you are trying to just start it quietly at 1am. The XKR does it all, with more quality.
MeesterDash this is not an uncommon statement from Jag techs.... everyone prefers the XKR!!!! My jag techs tell me this every 2 months
Well put MeesterDash! Really too bad they replaced it with the F type! I miss the XKR and its sound!
Have both... XK for traveling / F-Type for fun.
... but the F-Type isn’t as bad as you say.
@@dr.strange1523 Me too and I appreciate the difference between the two.
The XK has been out a long time and it only became "good" when it got a supercharged 5.0 V8 to push it along. The XK's interior is dated and the look is "classic" being a GT cruiser whilst the F type is a more of a GT sports car and both of their abilities are far greater than that of the average driver The F Type range has yet to develop as the XK has but it's got a great start but do hope they bring back a RWD model.
However saying that I also have an XF Portfolio 5.0 V8 and with only 385 BHP still far more than what's needed on public roads but I think it has the true Jaguar ethos of - Grace Space Pace. It's the oldest one of the bunch and yet still has some better functions than the other two that should be standard with these models.
The F Type is far from a cheap trashy toy, it's a very reasonably priced, practical and capable 550 BHP grown up play thing. that not many Jag Master Techs get to really appreciate and I consider the engine flare a great security as no one heard a thing when my friend had his electric car stolen at 1 am in the morning !!!!
I want a xk maybe in 2 yrs
I want to know how much it costs to produce such a video. Just having a good informative test driver driving these cars on a b-road is seriously good enough to me. And judging by myself i dont think this kinda video will cost awful alot dough regardless autocar is a mag. So yeah, think about this DRIVE+.
Drive could learn a lot from this
Agreed, fuck /Drive+ they've totally killed themselves, by the end of the year they'll be bust.
Hi Autocar, how about a little madness? - let´s see how fast cars can go in reverse gear. ;D
Only thing good about the F-type is that it's all wheel drive.Also The rear end design looks better than the XK.Those 2 things are the only things it have that the XK could use to make it even better than an F-Type