How to Diagnose and Replace a Hall sensor in a hub motor Step by Step instructions Himiway Error 24
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Be prepared, the geared hubs typically fail the clutch or spray assy. That or they melt the gears if loaded hard at low rpm. Good tutorial for a hall replacement, done that before as well as replaced Fets in the controller. Thats probably what burnt on your controller by the way. Pretty common. Really need to get back to dirtbikes though!👍🏻
I had 40 hours and 400 miles on this bike in the past moth, and zero on the dirt bike .. it's crazy but till fall, and 5moh , or moab not sure where im gonna ride the yamaha (except this weekend in american fork canyon :D ) hope i can still ride 4 stroke
Another question:
Why we need the bms of the battery?
What do you mean with "clutch" and "spray assy". I'm currently trying to troubleshoot my bike and am looking for potential causes.
As for the video it's not very good, if you want to troubleshoot hall sensors what you typically want to do is measure at the connectors which voltages they output instead of checking for continuity, some hall sensors can fail by reporting wrong voltages, I have seen some that report 2v instead of 5 or dont go to 0 entirely which messes with the controller and by this method of checking for continuity could lead to a bad troubleshoot.
great and very interesting thank you
Happy to be of help
Great information. Curious if everything could be tested with just a multimeter?
is all the 41F hall sensor the same? and How do you find your replacement sensor
I replaced 2 hallsensors that was bad, but for some reason it keeps blowing up. I used a tester to check if hall sensors are toggling before putting power( it does). I also used same controller on a different motor and it works. Any help will be appreciated.
Go sensorless , get a new controller , end this stupid design . Once I took my sensors out never had an issue
@@vegasromaniac i would go sensor less but its hard i need 2 controllers for dual drive.
I wonder if you glued it down with that white gunk ...
I have a 48v 1000w motor that is showing up code 007 and it moves 1cm when I pull throttle and it stops ( I think is the hall sensors) , can I just change the controller to A sensor less one and it’ll work?
i have the same problem, when i accelerate it goes back and forth 1cm and stops, how did u solve it?
@@mamata5018 mine was the controller wires , they was melted together so I separated them. Ur could be the whole controller
great videos.
Question…I normally get proper reading for my motor with EDT. Today, I get a reading that was normal at first but then as I spin the wheel backward nothing happens and have two hall lights “red” on EDT.
Any ideas what’s going on? Since two lights are “stuck” on red and nothing happens spinning tire accordingly?
Great video.
/Bklyn👑
I think that's a short .. i would open the motor to check inside ...for loose stuff
@@vegasromaniac thanks for your reply. im gonna check for loose ends today.
if I do have to replace hall sensors, do hub motors use unipolar or bipolar hall sensors? can’t find a sure answer online. i have a Super73 Z1.
watching videos online too.
appreciate ur work and reply.
/Bklyn👑
@@vegasromaniac Hey...good news. it wasn't the hall sensors. the motor phase wires had a short because the wire covering was coming off causing two of the motor phase wires to touch. Problem solved.
Learning more about motors, hall sensors, and phase wires beforehand really helped in troubleshooting. Saved a lot of time and frustration. Your video and response helped alot. Thank you.
/bklyn 👑
Great video.
Question…does it matter if the hall sensor is unipolar or bipolar?
/Bklyn👑
Uni
@@vegasromaniac thanks for your reply.
im confused now. some forums say only bi-polar for motor hub. can you explain why u say/suggest unipolar over bipolar hall sensor replacement hub motor? Great tutorial.
/bklyn 👑
@@vegasromaniac earlier you said it does not matter, so is it uni or bi?
What rating are the hall sensors? I have one with the code 461a02399 for a fiido bike
I have a question. Whenever I throttle at high speeds it seems to vibrate and I can feel throughout my entire bike. However at peak speed the vibration is gone.
But when I mess around with the wires a bit. It goes away then comes back. Goes away then comes back.
When I say mess with the wiring. I mean using zip ties
Did you check tires for balance ?
@@vegasromaniac
They seem balance. Nothing loose or anything.
Could it have something to do with the fact that I use a 48v 1000w battery with a 48v 1500w rear hub motor. Could that be the cause? Not getting enough wattages?
Non of my hall sensors indicators light up, and the battery indicator of the testing device goes off when i connect the hall sensors connector to the tester, what could be the problem?
So does mine. Have you figured out the problem yet?
@@michaelbennett8211 yup, i replaced all sensors, one of them was shorted
Where do you get the sensors?
@@michaelbennett8211 i got a full board for an escooter, then took the sensors off it and placed them on the ebike board, it was easier because if i only order the sensors i would need heat tubes and i didnt know what size heat tubes i would need, the board with sensors had it all, it cost me 7€ i think the board with its sensors
Thank you so much
I wanna oder the hall sensor withe 6 cabel where can i get it plls couse i been looking for it but there is only 5 cable
I don't know man. I converted my motor to sensoreless , way better performance
My ancheer hummer has a e008 error displaying on the screen. The throttle and pedal assist don’t work!! Please help me. The modem is AMA005874😢😢
You mentioned that you used a new controller after removing the Halls Effect module but no mention as to the model number of that controller. Was it the same same voltage and amperage as the original? I also take it that you run your bike wide open and that the reason for burning up so many motors. Is it not so?
My motor burn on hill climbs and mostly because the hall sensors are really weak and they just warm up and cause problems , stop working . Any controller that can work in sensorless mode works ebay full of them
Damn it failed before 500 miles ? You should look into getting a bafang bbshd and a good triangle battery. You'll climb any hill with ease if you get a regular rear wheel with a 7 or 10 speed
yeah i have a tdsd 2 in my shopping list for a while but as long as i have 2 hub motors it's not necessary .. i can fix these
So what's the 4 hall sensor for? (The white wire)
Speed sensor
make one of these where yo do it with the multimeter
Can you use any hall sensor?
Yes .. as long as they fit and they are matching bipolar or unipolar
Where did you get the new sensor from?
eBay
@@vegasromaniac okay. Are there different types? Or are they universal?
Thank you
Sir plz help me ss41 refarence sensor details
sensor link?
Can you explain how to connect the motor to the tester ? Is there an adapter to plug the motor cable into ? If so can you provide a link for that?
DEWIN 600mm Hub Motor Convert Extension Cable, 9 Pin Conversion Line Waterproof Connector Electric Bicycle Conversion Kit
been using the same bldc hub since 2009 no probs, my brother has a 1 year old voilamart motor and the hall has just gone bad on one of the sensors. cheap crap.
Also worth noting you can test the hall with a multimeter. give it the 5v it needs to operate, just connect it to a working controller, connect ground probe to hall ground, and positive probe to A B or C hall, set sensitivity low and slowly turn motor, you'll see voltage climb and drop on working ones, no change is your faulty one.
What controller did you buy to bypass the hall sensors - I have a handbike and am stuck if the motor dies 08H code- 48v 500w bafang G020.00.DC 10. Thank you
The tester led light gets on when the hall sensor gets in the "on" position because of the magnet. When the hall sensor is in "on" position the hall sensor has a voltage accros his last pin that now feeds the led light in the tester. The led of the tester of it's corresponded hall sensor just need to get on. You don't need to watch at the configuration. It either goes on or not.
ebikes are mostly still shit. you have to constantly maintain. please someone make something that requires no faffing for three years. with winter
I have a Cruiser that can be unlocked to 28mph if i change to the controller you have, will I still be able to attain those speeds?
Very nice video hall sensor installation thanks good info 💯❤❤
Where did you buy the Hall sensor and controller link? Also this work with juiced hyperscramble 2
Whats the no. of hall sensor you are using?
www.ebay.com/itm/SS41F-Honeywell-Hall-Effect-Sensor-20mA-Bipolar-5V-9V-12V-15V-18V-3-Pin-6pcs-/114505778894?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
@@vegasromaniac how do you know what hall sensors to buy for a motor. i have a Bafang 250watt motor. the battery on the bike is 36v thanks in advance.
Please can you tell me where each hall sensor wire goes my boards says (k) (5v) (gnd) (ha) (Hb) (HC) (sp) thank you
01:30 Hello there.
I want to ask a question.
I see 6 round metal parts on the engine cover.
What use are these metal parts?
Will the bike work without those metal parts?
can you please give me detailed information
I have same motor but the middle hall switch works with reverse magnet triggering? Outside are the same. middle is different.
WHAT CAUSES THESE SENSORS TO SHORT OUT? EACH TIME COSTS ME $200 TI FIX! REPLACED ONE OF THEM AND ERROR 007 CAME UP, SO REPLACED ALL THREE.
I have a blue one Always on the motor is not connected to anything beside the tester so it’s a bad sensor as well?
Thank you nice explanation. I think you are a teacher.😊
Where did you get the after market controller
if u move, or remove the sensors for speed = remove speed limit?
is that a towel around the motor?
4.24 You have a piece of towel wrapped around the hub, what is it used for? Protect the hub ? or use it for cooling? eg wet it in order to cool hub?
Yes is fast cooking after a long uphill, here in Vegas we have super low humidity , you poor water on anything it cools it due to rapid evaporation
Thank you for sharing.
so do u need a new dash console once replaced the ebike’s controller with no hull sensors? ie. keep only the bike frame, brakes and the battery and replace everything else
Yeah that can be done
Which kind of hall sensor do you have on the yellow thing?
Where you have 2 screws holding the plastic piece holding the hall sensor
You have more videos repairing the bike than riding it
If you own multiple bikes, you might up end up with longer repair times than riding times.
What the need of the 4th hall effect sensor..the one that read the magnet in the motor cover??? thanks!
Speed sensor
thanks@@vegasromaniac
Quais numerações dos sensores
If I get a controller that can operate a motor without hall sensors do I have to remove the hall sensors board?
No , you don't have to remove it
@@vegasromaniac Thank you
You happened to know the dimension of the gears thinking on going metal I have the same motor
@@stackbundles4689I have a 48v 1000w motor that is showing up code 007 ( I think is the hall sensors) , can I just change the controller to A sensor less one and it’ll work?
@Abz_007 Yes it should work
Why we need the hall sensor?
The sesnrobread the position of the motor and starts smoother, at high rpm doesn't matter
@@vegasromaniac thank you so much
Will any hal effect sensor work?