Crossover Kayak- Rec Kayak- Touring Kayak- What's It All Mean?

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  • Опубліковано 11 бер 2020
  • In this episode, we talk about sit in kayaks and what is the difference between a few popular types of sit in kayaks. We also introduce you to the FIT Concept. We use this concept in-store to help customers decide which style and model of kayak will best serve their needs.
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  • @DB-cx6cb
    @DB-cx6cb 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you I’m 70 yrs old and live on a lake, actually river that has dams and locks with calm water. Researching the touring kayak. Never kayaked and this was very informative.

  • @user-mt9tn1ni4g
    @user-mt9tn1ni4g 3 роки тому +5

    These things are so awesome!! It seems like yesterday.. we used to take inner tubes from large construction vehicle tires. The best were from the airplane tires.. I'm not going to go into much detail... but five of those tied together with some clothes line rope.. with a used piece of carpet on top!! Total cost $0.00 multiple seasons using the same material... PRICELESS!!

  • @chuck46n2
    @chuck46n2 4 роки тому +14

    Your videos are fantastic. Wish you were closer. I would buy from you. Thanks for being awesome.

  • @dannyw.952
    @dannyw.952 2 роки тому +2

    Great vid! You are the only group on UA-cam with full in-depth reviews. Really hard to find content like this about kayaks.

  • @mikemason4792
    @mikemason4792 3 роки тому +1

    I fish out of my kayak but I still watch all your reviews and instructions. Outstanding.

  • @markf7066
    @markf7066 3 роки тому +6

    Dan, you so such a great job on these videos. You’re a wealth of kayak knowledge! I’ve learned so much from your videos. Paddle on !

  • @davidmichael4526
    @davidmichael4526 4 роки тому +2

    Outstanding description of each kayak and comparisons. Great work!!!

  • @rodneyporisch317
    @rodneyporisch317 4 роки тому +1

    What a great video and very informative thank you for your information

  • @saintjames8018
    @saintjames8018 4 роки тому +1

    Dude.... you post some great info..... very educational... thumbs up

  • @akajondoe1
    @akajondoe1 2 роки тому +1

    Your videos are the best for beginner and moderate levels. Thank you for putting them out.

  • @_DeLac
    @_DeLac 4 роки тому +20

    Hope everyone’s day is going great, keep on yaking

  • @phukyu345
    @phukyu345 4 роки тому +1

    Best video so fsr answered the obvious questions but back up ones. Can't wait to get one haha

  • @katejohnson2683
    @katejohnson2683 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent help! Thanks!!!!

  • @gathercreatelivewithleslie8340
    @gathercreatelivewithleslie8340 2 роки тому +1

    This helped so much. Now it's easier to understand all the differences. Definitely a rec and maybe a crossover later

  • @anAngeal
    @anAngeal 3 роки тому +6

    I keep remembering this cool bypass they installed in Yorkville, IL for kayaks. They essentially installed a bypass to go around the dam on the Fox River, and included rapids for experienced kayakers and a calmer path for novices.

    • @Patriotic327
      @Patriotic327 4 місяці тому

      I took a class at the Yorkville park. You’d like to be in a Katana for that.

  • @aspiringwhale7306
    @aspiringwhale7306 4 роки тому

    Great information and so easy to understand. You have narrowed my choice to a dagger axis. Will wait for offseason and enjoy. Again love the passion and it shows. Would totally buy from you all if closer. In montana and mainly looking at lakes and potentially rivers down the road. Axis 12.0 jack of all trades. Should be a blast. Liked another video on paddle selection.

  • @IndianaCards
    @IndianaCards 2 роки тому +1

    The first 2 daggers are absolutely beautiful. Definitely will be looking into one for my next boat. 2 years late but better late than never seeing them pretty kayaks haha

  • @ihavearedcouch1
    @ihavearedcouch1 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you. Appreciated this!

  • @bigred1120
    @bigred1120 4 роки тому +4

    Headwaters Kayaks, these videos are great! I've learned so much. Can you do a video on crossover kayaks? Maybe compare the Katana to some other similar boats and talk about who these boats are good for and how to decide between crossover, or buying separate ww, and rec boats. Thanks!

  • @shanewilliams1155
    @shanewilliams1155 4 роки тому

    Thank you for making these videos, they are very helpful. I'm originally from the central valley of CA, Manteca to be exact, but now I'm in Seattle and my wife, 10 yr old son and my self are looking to get into Kayaking and would love a recommendation for a solid beginner recreational kayak. We will not be doing rivers, but maybe some Puget Sound touring on calm days. Thanks again for helping everyone out, there are so many options!

  • @georgegonzalez3895
    @georgegonzalez3895 3 роки тому +3

    Great informative video
    Here in Florida we need shop like yours and your passion for promoting the kayak world,
    Thanks you 🙏

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I'm sure there have to be some good shops out that way somewhere!

  • @i.am.not.autism.i.am.retar4819
    @i.am.not.autism.i.am.retar4819 3 роки тому +2

    A stratos is definitely what the wife and I are after or something along those lines. The riot edge 15 is a strong contender given the price. We want to do inland coastal day trips along the Jurassic coast and some occasionall river. Then later on we may upgrade to full on sea kayaks.

  • @bobclapper2672
    @bobclapper2672 4 роки тому +2

    excellent

  • @therroon1
    @therroon1 3 роки тому +6

    Love my Dagger Axis 12.0. Its a great happy medium kayak. It does everything I need it to. Jack of all boats, master of none, but does well enough for me. Love the Molten model.

  • @charlie2go
    @charlie2go 4 роки тому +5

    Man, thanks so much for this. I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out where to upgrade. I was leaning towards the axis, but now I think I should go to the Stratos..

  • @thewanderer8
    @thewanderer8 2 роки тому

    Top round-up. Thanks.

  • @byray2249
    @byray2249 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for making this video! It was SO helpful! I own an Axis 10.5, but didn’t know what made it different from other kayaks. Still learning this sport, and doing it alone. So your UA-cam clips have really been helpful! They’re very informative and you have a good on-camera personality.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  3 роки тому +3

      I’m glad you found it helpful. I love being the community kayak shop for all of you without great local stores.

    • @byray2249
      @byray2249 3 роки тому

      @@HeadwatersKayak Um..actually.....There's a very good store right here in Madison WI called Rutabaga. But they don't create a UA-cam community like you're doing. Keep up the good work!

    • @traviswhitworth6506
      @traviswhitworth6506 3 роки тому +1

      @@HeadwatersKayak I'm glad you're able to help so many people like me. I'm just south of Louisville, KY and the only kayak shop closed for good this past year. I called your office and had a very informative conversation with Tim. If you see this let him know I went with the axis 10.5 and like his, it will be the pink aurora color... Like his it was the only color available. 😂

  • @chrisbeedle2284
    @chrisbeedle2284 3 роки тому

    Dan, I really love your videos.
    My girlfriend and I are looking for our first kayaks. I have been using your videos as research.
    We started out looking at the sporting goods store and warehouse kayaks.
    After watching your videos, we've passed through the $300.00, $500.00 and ended up closer to your $1,000.00 price range, (Thank you).
    We've been in touch with our local kayak shop, (Scappoose Bay Paddling Center/Next Adventure, in Scapppose, Oregon) and they have been awesome.
    Thanks, to you and Jack in Scappoose, I think that I've finally narrowed it down to one.
    Thank you for everything. Keep up the great work.
    Chris

  • @davidkuszaj5828
    @davidkuszaj5828 4 роки тому

    Your videos kick ass ... Great info ...

  • @Skyhook77
    @Skyhook77 3 роки тому

    EXCELLENT

  • @denzilbritt2314
    @denzilbritt2314 3 роки тому +1

    The bottom line is that Dagger makes great kayaks for every type of water. I own 4 Dagger kayaks and my brother owns 2. We have a Katana, Roam, Stratos and 3 Mambas. You can't go wrong with a dagger.

  • @brndnew01
    @brndnew01 4 роки тому +2

    You should do a dedicated review for the Stratos 14.5

  • @rorschach8585
    @rorschach8585 2 роки тому

    Outstanding informative video! This solidifies my "FIT"...I'm definitely not a crossover/white water guy...rec to touring, emphasizing speed and tracking over maneuverability is definitely where I need to focus my future shopping. I'm on the smaller side at 5'5" 135 lbs, so I'm looking at the Eddyline Rio.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +1

      Rio would be a sweet boat for you

    • @rorschach8585
      @rorschach8585 2 роки тому

      @@HeadwatersKayak I'm on the fence between the Eddyline Rio vs. the Dagger Stratos 12.5 S. This is really an internal debate I'm having over material and weight. Rotomolded polyethylene seems to be the superior material for durability and banging around rocks (not my primary intended use, but you never know what you might encounter once underway). Thermoformed ABS seems to be the champ in being lightweight. Between the Eddyline Rio and Dagger Stratos 12.5 S, the Stratos seems far more feature-rich though heavier.

  • @brucenovotny5924
    @brucenovotny5924 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, very informative...the problem is, though, that lotsa people don't really know what they wanna do. I guess, it's possible to buy a kayak and thru trial and error find out that you actually need another type...
    What then???
    🤔👍🇨🇦

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +2

      Just buy for what you imagine yourself doing. If that changes, so can the kayak.

  • @davidmichael4526
    @davidmichael4526 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks again Daniel for your video. I did buy the Axis 10.5 and tried it a few days ago down a small river. It works great as a crossover kayak with amazing stability. Settled on the skeg about half way down on flat water for easy paddling. It does have a huge cockpit, so I am going to order the thigh braces for more contact and control. I found it especially good as a photography kayak since it allows a small tripod in the center of cockpit with ample room for paddling and taking photos. Also for spin and fly fishing. In other words, with the ability to go through Class 1 and 2 rapids, this is a great play boat for exploring a variety of bodies of water. I do have a longer rec/touring kayak for large lakes and bays.

    • @geotankmates3468
      @geotankmates3468 4 роки тому

      Hey dave. Did you add anything to your axis 10.5 for fishing. Rod holders etc...???

    • @traviswhitworth6506
      @traviswhitworth6506 3 роки тому

      I know it's been a year, but I just put an axis 10.5 on hold. Can you link the though braces you bought for yours?

  • @lros
    @lros 4 роки тому +1

    I want to get into kayaking might have to swing by checkout what you have since you are in the 209

  • @josemirles4595
    @josemirles4595 4 роки тому +16

    Very informative! I have a suggestion. When doing these types be of videos, you may want to include your wife so she can point out which would be preferable to women. Would a female beginner do better in a longer heavier kayak? I seeing more and more women out there in kayaks. For that matter I am also seeing more senior citizens (both genders) out there as well. Seems kayaking is considered a good passive exercise. Might want to somehow include them too.
    In any case, I look forward to your videos as they always seem to teach me something.

    • @ralphkeith501
      @ralphkeith501 4 роки тому +3

      Excellent point Jose. Yesterday in the Folsom FaceBook kayaking group, a new female paddler was asking those questions. Mentioning the weight would be beneficial also. As always, great video Dan!

    • @davidglick4771
      @davidglick4771 4 роки тому +2

      I think it is both rude and creepy to tell someone to include their wife in a video presentation. It is another thing entirely to ask about criteria that would concern female paddlers. Think before you post.

    • @nordic5490
      @nordic5490 Рік тому

      @@davidglick4771 think before you post. That request was enirely reasonable. Wife is likely to be more than happy to share her advice with other female paddlers. Women can speak for themselves.

  • @lionlocVanDwellington
    @lionlocVanDwellington 2 роки тому

    I'm only interested in the ocean but it's difficult for me because to get there I have to make my way down a river with lots of rapids... so far my older Oldtown adventure xl139 is perfect. It was handed down to me from my brother who's had it for a decade an been everywhere with it but I've had to patch it a couple times because it's been dragged a bunch. They don't make this one anymore it seems so I'm looking for a used one in better shape.

  • @bobmiller3198
    @bobmiller3198 4 роки тому +2

    I bought my first kayak a few months ago. I watched your video where you compared 5 kayaks under $300 at Dick's Sporting Goods and I got the Pelican and love it! I might be ready for the next step up. I only kayak on a large, calm cove on a lake in Georgia. I want a sit-in with really good seating and back support. I am a 60 year old woman. I am 5'6" and weigh about 140 lbs (ignore my husband's pic, I am using his account). I have degenerative disk disease in my neck and lower back but I have found that kayaking helps. Keeping mind that I would like to stay under $1000 what would you suggest?

  • @syrenka1619
    @syrenka1619 4 роки тому +1

    I live in Vaasa Finland by the sea and am interested in getting myself a kayak. What would you recommend for oceans surrounded by islands but can also use in rivers and lakes?

  • @shettlock
    @shettlock Рік тому

    Does dagger make a big open cockpit kayak similar to Pungo and loon? I like the look and design of dagger boats but need a Pungo-like one to ride with my kids, a chill ride

  • @joshuagibson7360
    @joshuagibson7360 3 роки тому +7

    Would your recommend a dagger or a pungo for flat lakes and maybe some class one and two rivers? I am 6’3 and 250 pounds. I bought a box store kayak and now in love. I want to expand my paddling so I want a boat that will grow with me.

    • @korndawggy1801
      @korndawggy1801 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I'm kinda torn between both too. Wondering if a Pungo would handle it ok if you bumped a rock or slightly submerged tree or if the Dagger Axis would be better suited for that. Don't want to just limit myself to lakes.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +3

      Class II would not be fun in a pungo. I'd definitely go with at least and Axis since it has a little bit of whitewater soul. The Katana would be great in Class II, but not as good on lakes. Try to go with the boat for what you'll be doing the majority of the time.

  • @geekazoid
    @geekazoid Рік тому

    Because of this video I just got the Stratos 14.5 S and not an inflatable.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  Рік тому

      You’ll be happy you did. Thankful you found our content.

  • @linnettesalcedo7579
    @linnettesalcedo7579 4 роки тому +1

    Which kayak is best for a river and it will be my 1st kayak

  • @whatfreedom7
    @whatfreedom7 4 роки тому +2

    How’s the seat in the dagger axis?

  • @demoncleaner80
    @demoncleaner80 4 роки тому +1

    Really enjoy your videos. My first kayak was an unresearched Tarpon 100 I bought in 2008. I walked into a local shop and that was what I got. However, it got smashed by a Live Oak in Hurricane Michael in 2018. Got insurance for it, but finally looking to replace it, now that things are getting back to normal. I had some gripes about it being slow on the bayous/bay, but otherwise it worked well. Always wish I got a 12' instead though.
    We have a good mix here in FL of bay/coast kayaking, as well as creeks and lakes. I'm still trying to decide what type I want to pick, because it's kind of hard to find something that's a "Jack of all Trades, Master of None" -- my guess from this video would be the Axis 12.0? I'm also really interested in the Bonafide EX123. Wish you were closer, would buy from you guys in a heartbeat!

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 роки тому +4

      Go Axis. To its one of the best paddling all around kayaks out there.

  • @fearplug6027
    @fearplug6027 3 роки тому

    i have a question what would be a good cruiser on calm water but can handle rapids

  • @mirtooutside2657
    @mirtooutside2657 4 роки тому

    I’m looking for a good beginner kayak. I live in Deep South Texas. I’m about 45 minutes away from South Padre Island so I’ll probably be doing most of my paddling in the bay. However I would also like to take it on trips like the Guadalupe river. What kind of kayak do you recommend?

  • @awesomesessions8549
    @awesomesessions8549 4 роки тому

    Great video but damn, the Axis sounds perfect for me except that I’m 5’1”, 108#, and my guess is that 10 1/2 ‘ is too long. True? If so, suggestions. If not, then let me know. I am just starting out and am very comfortable on moderate flowing water. Have many easy rivers and lakes nearby but I may???? work up to class 2 next year. Maybe 😅 I’m 65 and may have to load this baby up myself on occasion.

  • @lloyddobler1310
    @lloyddobler1310 Рік тому

    I can't choose between the Katana 10.4 and Stratus 12.5L Been researching Kayaks for a few weeks now, started off thinking about the Stratus 14, then saw it in real life and it seemed too big for my life, not having a garage. I'm 6'4 200lbs. Live near a lot of rivers and coast in Oregon. Probably will spend 40% relaxing 30% I'd like to tour and camp 30% I would like to take some classes and advance in whitewater. Katana looks like a lot of fun, still could take a trip in it. I wonder if it's a lot more paddling when it's just cruising. So far i'm thinking Dagger Katana, Stratus, Roam. Jackson Traverse, I really liked the Eddyline Skylark/Wilderness Tsunami looks wise, just does not appear as rugged as the the above. So mainly Katana or Stratus is in the lead. Any thoughts?

  • @sharkheadism
    @sharkheadism 4 роки тому

    Should a buyer worry about the long-term maintenance of the Axis because of the rivets in each side near the waterline?

  • @tron3737
    @tron3737 2 місяці тому

    I’ve had a Katana 10.4 since 2019 but am finding less time to do WW in it. I still make time for my multi-day, self support floats, however.
    Do you feel like the Stratos 12.5L offers as much, usable gear volume-bow & stern-as the Katana 10.4?
    For reference, I am able to pack (2) 19L Watershed Futa Stowfloats in the stern. & (1) 23L Watershed Salmon Stowfloat in the bow-forward the foot brace bulkhead. Also SOLID Vid 🤙🏽

  • @BDiHaze
    @BDiHaze 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid. What would be the best kayak to go camping in and bring my mid sized cattle dog?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +1

      The Wilderness Systems Pungo or Liquidlogic Saluda would both be great options!

  • @suchasreallife
    @suchasreallife 2 роки тому +2

    I’d like to try a crossover but I want something that’s fast on the flats but not super unstable when the water gets alittle rough, and thoughts ?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +1

      Something like the Axis would actually be a really good option.

  • @Boo_T_Shayka
    @Boo_T_Shayka 3 роки тому

    lol hard working shop dog at 11:20

  • @gustaveriksson9983
    @gustaveriksson9983 Рік тому

    Nice review. I already have a fast ocen racer sea kayak and i am looking to add a kayak for rough wavees in the ocean as well as weekend trips on rivers and easy white waater. Do you think that the stratos is a good option? any other suggestion?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  Рік тому

      Yes! Perfect boat for that. PH Virgo could work too, but I prefer dagger outfitting.

  • @jnkmal9519
    @jnkmal9519 3 роки тому +1

    @4:38 cute DOG alert!

  • @tonysfishingadventures6725
    @tonysfishingadventures6725 3 роки тому

    Great information, I’m 5.10 ft and thinking to get the tsunami 145. What size paddle would you recommend for this kayak? Thanks!

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому

      Tsunami is awesome - make sure you take weight into consideration. There is a 140 and a 145. The 145 will be better for a bigger paddler, 140 better for lighter folks.

  • @c.daubz.5386
    @c.daubz.5386 Рік тому

    👍👍

  • @kylester89
    @kylester89 2 роки тому +1

    I’m looking for something that’s 6-7 feet long and is able to track well in lakes but also handle class 1-3 rapids.
    Any recommendations?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +1

      There is nothing that tracks well that's 6-7 feet long. The only things I've ever seen that length are whitewater playboats (made to do the opposite of tracking), kayaks for kids, or really bad designs. Length is the most key factor when it comes to tracking.

  • @NickGeorge
    @NickGeorge 4 роки тому +1

    If I were to say my qualifications it was I need my kayak to be: Lakes, rivers, coastal waterways, storage for bag/camera +drone, all seasons, not a touring, but able to take on the ocean and do some distance.

    • @heidiwhite2197
      @heidiwhite2197 3 роки тому

      Did you find a yak that met all these needs? This is what I would need.

    • @NickGeorge
      @NickGeorge 3 роки тому

      @@heidiwhite2197 no I got distracted, should probably get back on the yak life though

    • @heidiwhite2197
      @heidiwhite2197 2 роки тому +2

      @@NickGeorge If you ever find a good Yak that meets these needs, especially if it is light weight, let me know. I got one, that I think can do these, but it is heavy and I am a petite person with some prior neck and back injuries, so getting on and off my Rav 4 is challenging for me because my yak is pretty heavy. Thanks!

  • @joecullymtb2883
    @joecullymtb2883 4 роки тому +1

    Would i be able to do an occasional bit of fishing, camping, etc on the crossover?

  • @vns55
    @vns55 3 роки тому

    Would the Stratos make a good river runner up to class 2 as I like long distance river touring and a shorter kayak would be too slow

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  3 роки тому +1

      Yes. Loads of people use it on the Sacramento River here in Redding just for that reason.

  • @cherylmartin4050
    @cherylmartin4050 2 роки тому +2

    Explain classes of waters

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +2

      The six difficulty classes:
      Class I Rapids
      List of Class I thru III Rated Rapids
      Fast moving water with riffles and small waves. Few obstructions, all obvious and easily missed with little training. Risk to swimmers is slight; self-rescue is easy.
      Class II Rapids: Novice
      List of Class I thru III Rated Rapids
      Straightforward rapids with wide, clear channels which are evident without scouting. Occasional maneuvering may be required, but rocks and medium-sized waves are easily missed by trained paddlers. Swimmers are seldom injured and group assistance, while helpful, is seldom needed. Rapids that are at the upper end of this difficulty range are designated “Class II+”.
      Class III: Intermediate
      List of Class III Rated Rapids
      Rapids with moderate, irregular waves which may be difficult to avoid and which can swamp an open canoe. Complex maneuvers in fast current and good boat control in tight passages or around ledges are often required; large waves or strainers may be present but are easily avoided. Strong eddies and powerful current effects can be found, particularly on large-volume rivers. scouting is advisable for inexperienced parties. Injuries while swimming are rare; self-rescue is usually easy but group assistance may be required to avoid long swims. Rapids that are at the lower or upper end of this difficulty range are designated “Class III-” or “Class III+” respectively.
      Class IV: Advanced
      List of Class IV Rated Rapids
      Intense, powerful but predictable rapids requiring precise boat handling in turbulent water. Depending on the character of the river, it may feature large, unavoidable waves and holes or constricted passages demanding fast maneuvers under pressure. A fast, reliable eddy turn may be needed to initiate maneuvers, scout rapids, or rest. Rapids may require “must” moves above dangerous hazards. Scouting may be necessary the first time down. Risk of injury to swimmers is moderate to high, and water conditions may make self-rescue difficult. Group assistance for rescue is often essential but requires practiced skills. A strong eskimo roll is highly recommended. Rapids that are at the lower or upper end of this difficulty range are designated “Class IV-” or “Class IV+” respectively.
      Class V: Expert
      List of Class 5 Rated Rapids
      Extremely long, obstructed, or very violent rapids which expose a paddler to added risk. Drops may contain** large, unavoidable waves and holes or steep, congested chutes with complex, demanding routes. Rapids may continue for long distances between pools, demanding a high level of fitness. What eddies exist may be small, turbulent, or difficult to reach. At the high end of the scale, several of these factors may be combined. Scouting is recommended but may be difficult. Swims are dangerous, and rescue is often difficult even for experts. A very reliable eskimo roll, proper equipment, extensive experience, and practiced rescue skills are essential. Because of the large range of difficulty that exists beyond Class IV, Class 5 is an open-ended, multiple-level scale designated by class 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, etc… each of these levels is an order of magnitude more difficult than the last. Example: increasing difficulty from Class 5.0 to Class 5.1 is a similar order of magnitude as increasing from Class IV to Class 5.0.
      Class VI: Extreme and Exploratory Rapids
      These runs have almost never been attempted and often exemplify the extremes of difficulty, unpredictability and danger. The consequences of errors are very severe and rescue may be impossible. For teams of experts only, at favorable water levels, after close personal inspection and taking all precautions. After a Class VI rapids has been run many times, its rating may be changed to an apppropriate Class 5.x rating.

    • @blackmooncultx9552
      @blackmooncultx9552 2 роки тому

      Thanks for breaking it down! I think classes of water would make a great video if you're ever bored.

  • @stefangraveline7858
    @stefangraveline7858 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video....I have an opportunity to get a Dagger Zydeco 11 at a great price, looks like it sits between the Axis and Stratos types, but with less features. I am hesitant if I should go for it or go directly to a newer model. Is there a big difference? It would sit on deck of my sailboat, on the Great Lakes...Waves and wind.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому

      Zydeco is a more basic version of the Axis. It's still a good boat, but I personally would prefer an Axis. What kinds of sailboat? I'm an avid sailor in my free time. I've got a little West Wight Potter 19 I sail around my local lake.

    • @stefangraveline7858
      @stefangraveline7858 2 роки тому

      @@HeadwatersKayak Great, I'll find an Axis, or maybe an Old Town Loon 106, the 3 layer hull seems to be a good benefit. I'll try to have a test run. It was launch weekend on lake Ontario for my 1980 Hunter 33c. Happy sailing!

  • @hoodoolem
    @hoodoolem 4 роки тому

    I’m about 6’3”, I live in East Tennessee currently so I have a ton of access to some really nice white water. Same time I also really love the idea of taking my kayak on touring trips over night. I’m also a poor college grad so I only really have the money for one kayak even though I would totally use both a white water and a touring kayak. I definitely think a crossover is the way to go. Not sure what is best for me though even after this video. Could you give more detail on the difference between the Katana vs the recreation kayak? Flat water performance vs white water usability? Like is it feasible to do class four rapids in either kayak?

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 4 роки тому

      How about a White water racer?
      Designed for White water, but fast on the flat........... they can be a bit a beast though :)
      "Like is it feasible to do class four rapids in either kayak?
      "
      I wouldn't want to do grade 4 with anything long, the risk of getting pinned and the boat folding would be large. Plus it would be a miserable experience missing every breakout because the boat won't turn.
      You can "do" pretty much anything in anything, but it won't necessarily be fun or safe.
      There must be plenty of second hand glass GP boats out there going for peanuts, one of those would make a half decent tourer.

  • @BetterThanJoban
    @BetterThanJoban 3 роки тому

    Would you recommend the Axis for inexperienced 210 lb 6 ft guy?
    I have owned fishing style sit on tops and found that I would rather paddle than fish the slow moving rivers near me.
    Axis has my interest.

  • @Whulgorlum
    @Whulgorlum 4 роки тому +2

    How's the Zydeco 11 (I don't think it has a Skeg)? I live in North Carolina where we have many large lakes and slow moving rivers. I'd primarily like to use it for recreation (exploring and exercise).

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 роки тому +2

      Zach Adams it’s nice for a budget kayak. If your using it in open water be sure to add float bags.

    • @Whulgorlum
      @Whulgorlum 4 роки тому +2

      @@HeadwatersKayak Thanks for the reply, love your videos! :)

    • @GustoStCool
      @GustoStCool 4 роки тому +1

      @@Whulgorlum I have a Zydeco 9.0 2 years ago. Love it. Bought my buddy a Zydeco 11.0 last month. He loves it. But, you'd better hurry...I got the last 11.0 off of Amazon.

  • @Kwood10
    @Kwood10 3 роки тому +2

    What do you think about the Eddyline Equinox?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  3 роки тому +2

      That’s my next review. It’s a great beginner touring kayak. Fast great tracking and good stability for a advancing paddler. It’s no sports car, but it serves its purpose well.

    • @Kwood10
      @Kwood10 3 роки тому

      Headwaters Kayak I was thinking of ordering one a Eddyline Equinox because want something a little more advanced . I’ll be doing bays & lakes mostly . I have a Necky 10.6 recreational right now .

  • @anul6801
    @anul6801 2 роки тому +1

    Okay me and a friend want to paddle One of our nearby rivers. The river is like 75 km long 20-120 meter wide. Its mostly a calm river but has high energy in the spring when the Snow melts. There are some rapids aswell. Mostly class 1 and 2 maybe One class 3 but again thats more of a High energy rapid. We dont wanna play in the Rapids just run Them on our way down. We think the trip should take 2-3 days at most so we wanna camp on our way down. Should we aim for one of these Kayaks or what about a Prijon Enduro 380? Etc? Please help us its so much to think about 😁

    • @anul6801
      @anul6801 2 роки тому

      This is the worst rapid of the river that i know of at the spring time flooding: ua-cam.com/users/shortsU9GWlP4-HXM?feature=share

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому

      Honestly you'd probably be fine in any of these. Unless you're getting a boat specifically for that one trip, I'd try to get something that leans more towards what you paddle regularly. If you're mostly paddling something with consistent mild whitewater and rarely paddling flatwater, something like the Katana makes sense. If you're paddling about half and half, something like the Axis. If it's almost entirely flatwater with just a bit of whitewater, then the Stratos

  • @Rockerrobin
    @Rockerrobin 3 роки тому +1

    How good is the katana in whitewater? Playability

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  3 роки тому +1

      Playability terrible. But it’s good for running white water. Check out my video on clear creek.

  • @bennyblanko3
    @bennyblanko3 Рік тому

    Just know if you get an axis 12 and you are married, your wife will always be steeling that boat from you, and you will be stuck paddeling something else. I've had it in class 2 on the Salmon River near Riggins ID, but mostly paddle local lakes with it. It is nice, easy, decently fast, and not too heavy to get into the back of the truck. The drop skag works great, though for the most part, it really tracks fine without it.

  • @SunShine-yd5xu
    @SunShine-yd5xu 4 роки тому +3

    When it comes to capsizing in the middle of “angry river”, in which one the recovery is faster and easier ? The pink crossover or the green touring ? Thanks.

    • @JohnSmith-nz4bn
      @JohnSmith-nz4bn 4 роки тому +1

      Sun Shine _ I haven't used these particular boats, but I have used a Dagger Nomad L and Liquidlogic Remix 79 and as a beginner, as in 4 days on water new, I found them both equally easy to self right. I could almost do both with just my hands if that's an indicator.
      I felt the Liquidlogic was more 'rolly' so I went over more, but it was progressive if that makes sense. The Dagger was less inclined to roll, but when it did, it felt like it just 'went'.
      Even after 30 days I still preferred the Dagger.
      I was using C to C roll method, I don't known what the screw method feels like.
      Have a try and see what suits you. Hope this helps.

    • @kevinshort3943
      @kevinshort3943 4 роки тому +1

      Sun Shine
      "When it comes to capsizing in the middle of “angry river”, in which one the recovery is faster and easier ? The pink crossover or the green touring ?"
      If it's an actual "angry river" you shouldn't be in either of those.
      What do you mean by "recover"? Roll? Swim? Self rescue? Bow rescue? etc.....

  • @benschepps6494
    @benschepps6494 3 роки тому

    You have stated the Sitka LT is a great boat. How would you rate it against a Stratos 14.5L on performance/handling/speed given their similarities: aside from the $1K difference?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  3 роки тому +1

      Sitka is faster and much lighter. Stratos is more playful in rougher waters due to its rocker. But that also makes it slower in flat water. I think the Sitka is a better kayak for general purpose day touring, and the Stratos is better for rough water play. Both are nice, but I’d pick a Sitka for everything but playing in the ocean in rocks.

    • @benschepps6494
      @benschepps6494 3 роки тому

      @@HeadwatersKayak Thanks Dan! I'll go talk to Ethan @happypaddlin then!

  • @nickyl9040
    @nickyl9040 4 роки тому

    My problem is that I'm still unable to find a sea kayak that I can fit into
    I'm 6'2 "
    275 lbs
    long waisted
    size 14 feet
    big muscular thighs that come from decades of hiking and cycling
    Last year I was going to buy myself a WS Tsunami 175 HV for Christmas ...and I couldn't fit into it
    The kayak that I use most of the time is my Pungo 140 ....which I can't say enough nice things about
    I also use a Tarpon 140 for fishing and snorkeling
    My paddling environment is the rivers and bays of the Gulf Coast of Florida
    Any ideas about what kind of a sea kayak I could fit into ?

    • @Kwood10
      @Kwood10 3 роки тому

      Nicky L Try Eddyline Denali

  • @KevinMSmith-zf7nv
    @KevinMSmith-zf7nv 4 роки тому +2

    Have you paddled the vibe shearwater 125 yet? I’ve been waiting for a good on the water review

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 роки тому +3

      Kevin M. Smith no one has. Vibe is manufactured in China and the factory has been locked down. I think there about six weeks behind schedule at this point. Hoping we’re on track to see them in April

    • @KevinMSmith-zf7nv
      @KevinMSmith-zf7nv 4 роки тому

      Thank you

  • @sha6mm
    @sha6mm 2 роки тому

    I’m 6’2 and 250lbs and want to paddle the Missouri from Montana to St Louis ?

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому

      Sounds like an awesome trip! Go with the longest boat you're comfortable with, it will do you a lot of favors for really long trips like that. Also a lighter weight material like fiberglass or kevlar will save you a lot of effort!

  • @traviswhitworth6506
    @traviswhitworth6506 3 роки тому

    What are your thoughts on the wilderness aspire 10.5? I am looking for a dagger axis 12.0 but no luck. I found a place that has the 10.5 aspire.
    I plan to use it mostly on small rivers and creeks with occasional small ponds/lakes.
    Is the aspire worth considering? How does it compare to the axis?

    • @traviswhitworth6506
      @traviswhitworth6506 3 роки тому

      I found a dagger axis 10.5. Well, sorry of. She said she had it ordered but she doesn't know when it will arrive. I have it on hold for me. I really hope it's as great for me as it seems to be for most everyone else that has one.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому +2

      Axis is a better boat. Hope they tracked it down for ya!

    • @traviswhitworth6506
      @traviswhitworth6506 2 роки тому +1

      @@HeadwatersKayak I actually found a 12 ft axis. I got it almost a year ago. It's a great kayak!

  • @overland8081
    @overland8081 3 роки тому +2

    I wish you’d give us the prices of each one and in the different sizes.

    • @geniusmarcsays2434
      @geniusmarcsays2434 3 роки тому

      price is negotiable

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  2 роки тому

      Prices lead to comments about how the price has changed, which these days is a constant.

  • @wisenber
    @wisenber 3 роки тому +3

    Sad that sea kayaks continue to dwindle in popularity, especially if you're leading a group in an 18 ft boat with the rest being under 14 ft.

    • @Xfuera
      @Xfuera 3 роки тому

      As I am very new to kayaks, could you please explain why this happens?, the 18ft vs the 14ft?

    • @wisenber
      @wisenber 3 роки тому +1

      @@Xfuera The speed of a displacement hull boat (which includes kayaks and canoes) is dependent upon the length of the hull. All things being equal, the longer the boat, the greater it's speed potential. An 18ft kayak's potential is over 6.5 mph. A 13 ft boat is under 5 mph. Throw in the resistance of a rec. boat with a wider hull, and the speed difference is even greater.
      That being said, few groups go on day trips averaging over 4 mph, but shorter rec. boats struggle to maintain that without a lot more effort than the paddler in the longer narrower boat.

    • @Xfuera
      @Xfuera 3 роки тому

      @@wisenber Thanks, makes much more sense to me now.

  • @i.am.not.autism.i.am.retar4819
    @i.am.not.autism.i.am.retar4819 3 роки тому

    Can you just say "Houston we have a problem! We have a main bus B undervolt".

  • @m.a.5689
    @m.a.5689 Рік тому +1

    am I the only one that chose a sit on top because the spiders can't hide down by my feet?

  • @narissabond6383
    @narissabond6383 3 роки тому

    Where is your shop?

  • @tylerlondon5052
    @tylerlondon5052 3 роки тому

    "Rip and tear." If you know...

  • @jackploegstra3941
    @jackploegstra3941 3 роки тому

    Oh my gosh, at 2:07 when he said "rise up" exactly like in Hamilton xD

  • @cannonballbrad9522
    @cannonballbrad9522 3 роки тому

    I don’t know if anyone will reply but I just got into the sport and I’m looking for a good kayak that I can go down river ... but then turn around and be able to paddle back up river where I parked my truck. I used a rental kayak recently, field and stream blade 97 and I enjoyed it but it was a little tough to go back up some parts of the river we were on. I used the same boat on a lake and I loved it but I’d like something that can help me bring paddle myself back up river to where I started. I felt like my bot was fighting me a little.
    Any recommendations for something to go down river then go back up in? I’m doing mostly photos/videos. I don’t fish (yet). I weigh 265. 6ft.

    • @Kwood10
      @Kwood10 3 роки тому

      Cannonball Brad I would try a 101/2 recreational they have big cockpits & you can get them with foot braces & thigh pads will be versatile enough for different kind of water I have a Necky 10.6 Rip & I use it in bays , lakes, choppy water , been in boat wakes tidal changes with rolling waves & it has handled really well .

  • @tysk5729
    @tysk5729 3 роки тому

    my canoe knowledge : if it floats its a boat