The HORROR and TRAGEDY of SHIN GODZILLA

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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    Today we talk about the hidden horror and tragedy of Shin Godzilla. I also discuss why this is my favourite incarnation of the character, as the monster is elevated to nearly lovecraftian levels.
    00:00 - Intro
    3:02 - The Background of Shin Godzilla
    6:30 - The Story of Shin Godzilla
    1:00:25 - The Horror of Shin Godzilla
    1:05:10 - The Tragedy of Shin Godzilla
    1:21:53 - Outro
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  • @StarPogginum
    @StarPogginum 4 місяці тому +725

    43:07 "Surrounded by the inferno of his own making, the incarnate god sleeps." That line unironically goes crazy hard.

    • @very_not_emo
      @very_not_emo 2 місяці тому +13

      yeah that's metal as fuck

    • @rengoku_117
      @rengoku_117 Місяць тому +1

      I'm using this line, is it okay to use this line ?

    • @forgettable8300
      @forgettable8300 6 днів тому +1

      Thats one of those things you hear in a story and get chills down your spine

  • @robbub4811
    @robbub4811 5 місяців тому +1185

    I believe Goro Maki was Godzilla's tail. In the movie the question was asked what Goro Maki did at the very end and then you see Godzilla's tail crack open, after that Godzilla's tail begins to form a face. And of course the ending with the humanoids sprouting from the tail.
    So my theory is Goro Maki fed himself to Godzilla giving him all his rage.

    • @mrbrandoncole1
      @mrbrandoncole1 5 місяців тому +138

      This is actually a very very interesting theory that really made me think and I think I'm going to follow up on this theory and look more into it because it's extremely interesting.

    • @whitty_guy_
      @whitty_guy_  5 місяців тому +163

      Interesting. That could definitely be the case

    • @ALowTierHero
      @ALowTierHero 5 місяців тому +120

      MINUS ONE SPOILERS
      I believe Minus One is actually Canon with Shin. The ending with the markings on Noriko's back are the key.
      Over the next 70 years, those with the markings will one by one, jump into the ocean, never to be seen, the government will chalk it up to suicides.
      But it's not, they are joining together to form Shin Godzilla's body. This is what we see at the end of Shin. The bodies of those that have been lost seperating again as Godzilla's body breaks down.
      Goro Maki was the final sacrifice, as his body compelled him to jump. Perhaps he had the markings too.

    • @lucasbechtol4126
      @lucasbechtol4126 5 місяців тому +110

      Interesting idea, but I'm not sure Godzilla had that much rage through the movie, though. I just got the impression he was just existing and Tokyo was simply in his way.

    • @cthulhluftagn3812
      @cthulhluftagn3812 5 місяців тому +90

      Shin has no rage, hes actually tottaly mindless until the third land based form, but Goros suicide introduced Human dna into godzillas genetic library.
      Its possible that without that addition godzilla may never have been able to leave the ocean, wich would have been apocalyptic as it would have grown unseen across the ocean floor until it simply swallowed the land as a massive wave of flesh.
      Goro may have seen his drawing of the thing out as the lesser evil, forcing it ibto the light at a stage it could be stopped.

  • @HawkTeevs
    @HawkTeevs 5 місяців тому +739

    I just love the body horror this version of Godzilla encapsulates.
    The deleted scene where Goji’s 3rd form spews an unholy amount of blood all over the city streets is just so horrible in every sense of the word. It implies it has to spew blood because its body is literally creating way more blood than it actually needs to survive. It’s like its internal organs are evolving far faster than the rest of its body.

    • @rangda_prime
      @rangda_prime 4 місяці тому +40

      It is also VERY much a Hideaki visual, bringing back the imagery of Neon Genesis Evangelion.

    • @andrewmeyer3599
      @andrewmeyer3599 4 місяці тому +33

      It's blood could also be extremely toxic and unclean because it's essentially just a coolant for him

    • @DeepEye1994
      @DeepEye1994 4 місяці тому

      A monstrous tumor with out of control cell growth

    • @tskmaster3837
      @tskmaster3837 4 місяці тому +1

      Shin Godzilla has yet to convince me how brilliant it thinks it is, which is common for the works of Anno.... except for Petite Princess Yucie, a work not tied to Anno's depression. How curious....
      My problem with Shin: Cthulu shows up, doesn't do anything. I mean Godzilla shows up, this is in no way "the Call of Cthulu", it can't be, that one has set up and exposition.
      Well, if Shin isn't that Lovecraft monster, which one.... ah, the Colour Out of Space! That Nick Cage version is such a great body horror movie because we understand what it is doing, it's a radiation metaphor.
      So what is Shin... and why does the story keep cycling back to that question? That's not Cosmic horror, that's just bad writing! "Putting it in relation to people is unnecessary for people to be scared of it."

    • @andrewmeyer3599
      @andrewmeyer3599 4 місяці тому +22

      @@tskmaster3837 nobody asked

  • @EsShinkai02
    @EsShinkai02 4 місяці тому +378

    Maki's suicide is majorly evidenced in the beginning by his placement of hus shoes on the boat. This is a very common action taken by those who end their own lives in Japan.

  • @bbrbbr-on2gd
    @bbrbbr-on2gd 5 місяців тому +530

    This Godzilla weirdly enough feels like Doomsday. The indestructible body, the "spines", constantly evolving. But the cosmic horror slant gives it something fresh and ominous.

    • @whitty_guy_
      @whitty_guy_  5 місяців тому +33

      I never thought of that. That’s a great comparison!

    • @johnmeehan7884
      @johnmeehan7884 2 місяці тому

      He isn't cosmic, goofy.

  • @heavysystemsinc.
    @heavysystemsinc. 5 місяців тому +447

    I also had the impression of the film that the reactor metabolism creates tons of heat that has to be disappated. Theres a cut scene where godzilla just vomits boiling blood everywhere that melts streets and cars.
    I think the way it looks like godzilla is vomiting fire, it looks like just a relief. Like when youre sick and you puke, you feel better. I think these attacks were a mix of defense but like..discovering internal ways to regulate temperature.

    • @Skarrier
      @Skarrier 5 місяців тому +49

      Yeah, Shin Godzilla is the only version of godzilla which atomic breath was more of a side effect than a direct attack. After bombs broke his blood circulatory system in its back, there was no way of godzilla venting out the heat rather than directly from the mouth. This utterly devastating display was probably just Godzilla spontaneously cooling itself down.

    • @ButchyCantYouSee
      @ButchyCantYouSee 3 місяці тому +17

      The lyrics of the song that plays when his jaw splits in 2 explains alot in my eyes, the choice to use purple light is interesting aswell as it is sometimes used to represent sadness and pain which I think is intentional, also the sound of its concentrated beam could be described as a shrieking cry but I'm reaching there,
      I believe that shin had complete intelligence & consciousness at that point in the movie, but it didn't know what it was or why it was all it knew was unimaginable pain & that it was being attacked by an considerable force, Shin was a fuckin tragedy & I'm glad he died in the end, his horrible circumstance stopped by those who caused it in the first place.

    • @Kuikkamies
      @Kuikkamies Місяць тому +1

      Shin G didn't die at the end. Its in SCRAM mode, it just froze itself in order not to die.

    • @randallbesch2424
      @randallbesch2424 Місяць тому

      @@Kuikkamies it was frozen, it had no control over it.

    • @Kuikkamies
      @Kuikkamies Місяць тому

      @@randallbesch2424 No, it had full control over it in order not to die.

  • @nxblelxrdjova7147
    @nxblelxrdjova7147 5 місяців тому +469

    After going to see Minus One three times, I still consider Shin my number 1 due to just how extremely different while faithful it was to the original 1954 Goji. Minus One is an EXTREMELY close number 2, and honestly I can’t blame anyone for putting Minus One above Shin. Both are absolutely spectacular, and Toho really outdid themselves in the last ten years.

    • @commitarson620
      @commitarson620 5 місяців тому +25

      Makes it better when you realise who directed shin
      The legendary Hideaki Anno, aka the author of neon genesis evangalion

    • @lunalyzi
      @lunalyzi 4 місяці тому +18

      minus one and shin feel like 2 vastly different yet freaking amazing experiences

    • @baker2880
      @baker2880 4 місяці тому +9

      Yeah I liked minus one. But I still liked Shin More. I just love the procedural feel to it. What would governments do if this happened. And every scene with Gogzila was amazing. I put Shin at number 1 then Minus 1.

    • @rangda_prime
      @rangda_prime 4 місяці тому +4

      Both are great since both deal with national trauma and the nature of Japanese society. The themes are virtually the same, and they use the cultural touchstone which Gojira has become to tell it. Gojira is truly an amazing product of the Japanese psyche, it's almost become a modern day shinto kami (god/spirit) embodying the deep wounds of the 20th century Japan and beyond.

    • @rangda_prime
      @rangda_prime 4 місяці тому +1

      @@commitarson620 Yeah, and when you know that, you can see his touch on a lot of the visuals, from cuts of empty streets and railway stations, to monsters gushing torrents of blood onto the ground.

  • @ebusive
    @ebusive 4 місяці тому +149

    I've explained to people that the Toho/Japanese Godzilla movies are human stories that feature Godzilla. The American movies are Godzilla stories that feature humans.
    Both good in their own right, but a lot of the American movie audience just wants mindless action.

    • @AndrewRyan-zv7zb
      @AndrewRyan-zv7zb Місяць тому +7

      Because most people here's first REAL experience with Godzilla was the rubber monster fights, not Gojira.

    • @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
      @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon День тому

      Let's not pretend that a lot of Godzilla history isn't cool fights between monsters.

    • @AndrewRyan-zv7zb
      @AndrewRyan-zv7zb День тому

      @@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon thats most of it but the better 'films' are always about the metaphor in the destruction.

  • @Skarrier
    @Skarrier 5 місяців тому +63

    Interestingly enough, the flash-freezing at the end of the movie was probably the best thing that ever happened to Shin Godzilla, because it's not feeling pain anymore

  • @thonk1914
    @thonk1914 5 місяців тому +1573

    Yippee!!! New hour long video about my hyperfixation!!
    Edit: for all the people that have been calling me autistic in the replies, I found out you were right

    • @DesiWheelwright
      @DesiWheelwright 5 місяців тому +23

      Ong!

    • @somemorecoldwater5879
      @somemorecoldwater5879 5 місяців тому +58

      I feel insulted by how relatable you are

    • @lUseMyBlade
      @lUseMyBlade 5 місяців тому +10

      Stop mocking me!! Lmao

    • @NolanWins
      @NolanWins 5 місяців тому +1

      Indeed

    • @cloudwyrms9752
      @cloudwyrms9752 5 місяців тому +20

      Bruh same (I haven’t even had the chance to watch the movie all knowledge comes from stuff like this)

  • @falconstudios146
    @falconstudios146 4 місяці тому +108

    Describing Godzilla as a "giant teratoma" is very fitting. The word teratoma comes from the greek "tératos" which means monster, or monstrous, and toma, meaning tumor. Godzilla is a teratoma in the most horrifyingly literal sense: A tumor which is a monster.

    • @rainbow_vader
      @rainbow_vader 29 днів тому +1

      And in that deleted scene where it shows the chunks that fell off of him with teeth and eyes... Goji was literally spreading like a cancer

  • @sleepless5240
    @sleepless5240 5 місяців тому +142

    Alternate theory, what if her husband did successfully join her? But his rage at Japan and America overshadowed her innocence, Causing his soul to take over and create the more evil looking Godzilla. I could also explain the final form with this as her breaking free and becoming that innocent woman again. Just my thoughts lol

    • @ButchyCantYouSee
      @ButchyCantYouSee 3 місяці тому +12

      Na I don't really like the theory that human souls influenced shin, to me it undermines what I took away from the film but to each their own.

  • @_GeneralMechanics_
    @_GeneralMechanics_ 5 місяців тому +175

    There is some validity to your theory about what happened with Maki, or his involvement with creating Gojira that was supported by some supplemental information for the film. According to this, Maki discovered the prehistoric organism that consumed the radioactive waste, took it back to the lab and studied how it was rapidly evolving, and ultimately released it back into Tokyo bay. It isn't his wife, but he did create it and sacrificed himself to it. The popular theory is Maki was absorbed by the monster, hence why the tail has a face in it and why it's able to produce the fifth form offspring.

  • @skyfrederick6243
    @skyfrederick6243 5 місяців тому +144

    What I love between Shin and Minus One Goji is that Minus One was just an unstoppable force of nature meant to be a reckoning on humanity over what we unleashed with the atomic bomb. Shin is ever evolving and he adapts to any and all attacks put on him. Both are equally terrifying but Shin, I feel, has an edge since he never stops evolving

    • @idknemore525
      @idknemore525 5 місяців тому +2

      Minus One's godzilla is nothing special in that regard. It's just the most basic, over-used concept and message of the character. Minus One introduces little, if any, new takes, interpretations, or angles on the character. The only unique things about Minus One is how it looks when Godzilla fires his atomic breath and the extremely heavy handed pro-Japanese empire themes.
      Oh yeah and Godzilla suddenly having Wolverine's healing factor so they can do a lazy fake-out ending.

    • @Umezete
      @Umezete 5 місяців тому +8

      @@idknemore525 I don't think we watched the same movie, minus was was pretty scathingly critical of how the Japanese government treated it's soldiers during WW2.
      Minus One is more down to earth because it's more a revised retelling of the original story. Not necessarily a bad thing at all, you don't have to always re-imagine the movie monster as long as you use what you got effectively.

    • @skyfrederick6243
      @skyfrederick6243 5 місяців тому +3

      @@idknemore525 Oh SWEET!! Someone who cannot allow another to have an opinion and enjoy something they love, all while trying to tear down why they (you) think they (you) are superior!!!!

    • @commitarson620
      @commitarson620 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@idknemore525so you admit you didn't watch the movie cause godzilla was used like hiw they use him in shin as sparingly as possible with the main focus being the story of how the Japanese government treated its soldiers during ww2 and the devastation shown in ww2

    • @whiteRiceSupremacist
      @whiteRiceSupremacist 2 місяці тому

      @@idknemore525did you even watch -1 lmao

  • @Dookieman1975
    @Dookieman1975 5 місяців тому +58

    Think Goro Maki could’ve also killed himself just because of years of theorizing, studying, and predicting how Godzilla would evolve, having to think about it, the endless possibilities, how it could evolve until it becomes a planetary threat, all while not being allowed to talk about it and a bunch of people prob wouldn’t even believe him even with evidence just so they won’t have to think about a monster that can potentially evolve to surpass humanity
    Imagine having to live with the knowledge that a monster can potentially evolve endlessly and do anything. What that would mean for you and everything else on earth and potentially the universe. All while not even being allowed to talk about it. Think there were even plans to have Godzilla evolve or characters realize it can evolve until it spread to other planets after taking over earth. Then eventually the universe and just envelop it and create a new universe or become one or something like that

  • @ultrahippy13
    @ultrahippy13 5 місяців тому +77

    In retrospect I feel that godzilla is the manifestation of goro maki's anguish and rage at both losing his wife and the betreyal of his own people, in effect godzilla is a form of him lashing out at the world for causing him such pain.

  • @LordJamek
    @LordJamek 5 місяців тому +98

    Im a simple man I see Shin Godzilla I click quicker then my brain could think. Very simple

    • @BlankEmporium
      @BlankEmporium 5 місяців тому

      That's impossible. Your neurons take mere microseconds to fire a signal - your brain slightly longer to respond, and your muscles about a quarter of a second to respond.
      You literally cannot do anything without at least subconscious thought.

    • @thonk1914
      @thonk1914 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@BlankEmporium🤓🤓🤓

    • @LordJamek
      @LordJamek 5 місяців тому +6

      @@BlankEmporium You underestimate the speed of a Godzilla fan 🗿

    • @Hollywood_WBFFWB
      @Hollywood_WBFFWB 5 місяців тому +2

      @@BlankEmporium🤓👆”um actually”

    • @BlankEmporium
      @BlankEmporium 5 місяців тому

      @@Hollywood_WBFFWB You actively pursue your own degeneration into mindlessness? No wonder my generation is doomed.

  • @beanoptodon
    @beanoptodon 5 місяців тому +54

    The roar is not only iconic, its just so chilling and lovely.

  • @victormirandakoepke8352
    @victormirandakoepke8352 4 місяці тому +42

    one thing i love is that this movie has a song from the point of view of Godzilla and one from the point of view of humanity, with Persecution of the Masses portraying the horror that such a living calamity brings and Who will know portraying perfectly the other side of the coin, with the monster not doing anything out of malice instead just desperately clawing for a way to survive

  • @rageponiez
    @rageponiez 4 місяці тому +16

    I think the idea of Goro's wife's spirit being Godzilla is a really good allegory for radiation poisoning. ARS (radiation poisoning) is an extremely painful way to die, it often takes a long time, and it basically liquifies the body due to the rapid death and decomposition of cells damaged by radiation. But because the only way to get ARS is to be irradiated yourself, often victims can be radioactive to the point of harming those who are trying to save them. after Chernobyl, many of the nurses in the Pripyat hospital died of ARS (and cancers associated with radiation) after treating firefighters, liquidators, and plant workers who had been effected. Godzilla too is constantly undergoing painful cellular change, and with all that new mutation and growth there is probably also cellular death. Godzilla too is irradiating the innocent people of Japan, just by its very existence. In it fighting to survive despite the pain of its existence, there is a metaphor to the human organ's ability to survive radiation poisoning to the point that the body has no veins strong enough to administer morphine (another common occurrence in extreme ARS), but the heart is still beating. After the meltdown and explosion at Fukushima in 2011, it's a miracle that no one died of ARS, much like it's a miracle that they stopped Godzilla. With this in mind, I think the film does a good job at connecting the nuclear disasters of past Japan to those of the present, which is why it is one of my favorite movies.

  • @skyr5247
    @skyr5247 4 місяці тому +25

    I hadn't considered the theory that Maki's wife was somehow trapped in Gojira but given that the toho kaiju series has incorporated spiritual elements like that before (like the psychic sisters who could talk to Mothra), I can see it as a valid interpretation! I love Shin Godzilla so much and this video is everything to me, you're just like me fr

  • @marthajo7071
    @marthajo7071 5 місяців тому +161

    Given who directed shin Godzilla, I believe your theory about Godzilla being the wife is 100% true. Thank you for this video. I really loved it.

    • @jonathannieves3659
      @jonathannieves3659 2 місяці тому +8

      I was about to comment this knowing what powers the Evangelion units

  • @invadernav3422
    @invadernav3422 5 місяців тому +53

    I have been having conversations with my friend about how I wished more media viewed dragons as eldritch horrors and truly conveyed the lovecraftian horror they could represent. Massive creatures, sometimes so intelligent they can understand and communicate telepathically with a human, something that could understand the cries for mercy and appeals to empathy a human might make but mean no difference to it. Somehow able to carry its body on wings that shouldn't be able to support it, like how it's argued Shin Godzilla's legs shrouding be able to carry it onto land.
    And the common portrayal of dragons breathing fire, summoning it from within their own body, an impossibility of nature.
    Eldritch horror centers around the inconsequential role we have against the incomprehensible. And I think dragons, like Shin Godzilla, fit that so wonderfully.

  • @No_OneV
    @No_OneV 4 місяці тому +22

    Definitely the creepiest godzilla yet, especially the ending.

  • @bdoopy4167
    @bdoopy4167 5 місяців тому +10

    The fuck I didn’t know it was possible for an earthquake to literally change the rotation of the earth holy shit

    • @randallbesch2424
      @randallbesch2424 Місяць тому

      Don't worry our moon fixes the rotation speed.

  • @LukeVaughn__
    @LukeVaughn__ 5 місяців тому +95

    During the entire month of December I spent my time marathoning every single Godzilla movie
    I really liked most of the movies but this and Minus One are easily my favorites in the series

    • @omarfelix5287
      @omarfelix5287 5 місяців тому +4

      same here, I'd only add the very first movie and that's my top 3 G movies.

  • @rangda_prime
    @rangda_prime 4 місяці тому +36

    Wait, "Shinji and Hideko got together" is the low key best sentence in any video about this movie ever.

    • @What_111
      @What_111 3 місяці тому +8

      get in the robot shinji! wait, wrong shinji.

  • @kai_3788
    @kai_3788 4 місяці тому +26

    That is an incredibly insane theory that’s not only plausible considering other Godzilla movies, but also makes me feel even more sad for Shin. Amazing work!

  • @universalclangaming6548
    @universalclangaming6548 5 місяців тому +20

    What if...Goro Maki never died, but rather absorbed by Shin Godzilla, so he’s still alive inside Shin Godzilla, but now the body of a Shin Godzilla is his vessel, allowing Goro Maki to carry out his rage with the human civilization.

  • @Dookieman1975
    @Dookieman1975 5 місяців тому +35

    When some dead guy in japan said messing with America was “waking up a sleeping giant” yeah I’m pretty sure the OG Godzilla is just a fanfic of that. Then Godzilla returns was also a fanfic of “if the testing of hydrogen bombs continues, somewhere, another Godzilla may appear”

  • @windyday6850
    @windyday6850 5 місяців тому +26

    "i'm gonna get jfk'ed one day" is my favourite line in this.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda 3 місяці тому +10

    With that final form, Hideaki Anno would basically connect Shin Godzilla to Neon Genesis Evangelion. Because that definitely looks similar to some of his designs for Angels.
    Also, congrats on absolutely crushing your most viewed video under the titanic weight of an unknowable monstrosity.

  • @666atomsk
    @666atomsk 5 місяців тому +33

    Goro maki is Shin Godzilla! I believe that through his research he found a way to merge with the original sea creature he was studying or incorporate it into himself, thats what caused the explosion in the bay and why we never find his body. It would also explain the humanoid creatures at the end of his tail (from Goro's dna) and why it stomped all over Tokyo (Goros hatred).
    For my final thought, if you had the opportunity to become Godzilla would you? I think the 10 year old in all of us would say "YES!"

  • @raptorprimal1077
    @raptorprimal1077 5 місяців тому +11

    If they did a british godzilla film (or a modern gorgo film coz gorgo is british kaiju) and like shin godzilla parodied the government critiquing incompetence of them, I know exactly how it should go. Have the Priminister tell all the British people to evacuate, stay indoors or in bunkers. Some bunkers won't have space for everyone so some families are forced to live separately from each other. The people in said bunkers have to follow strict rules. Meanwhile the british government decide to throw down a party because they think they are above the rules but they're reminded they're not as Gorgo or Godzilla smashes through their building. Throwing a party during a crisis is an obvious criticism of something the British leading party actually did in real life during a crisis that caused much hatred rightfully so towards said leader party. If you want further context, look up "covid christmas politician party" that's something that also deserves criticism

    • @mrsubject1
      @mrsubject1 4 місяці тому +2

      Lmao true comments, no way the British version would have the prime minister even close to the action with thoughts of duty and responsibility, he would be long gone to his mansion in the Maldives to allow the British public to deal with the fallout

  • @nomerevientes
    @nomerevientes 4 місяці тому +42

    Este es, definitivamente, el mejor video que he visto -y vaya que he visto varios- acerca de ‘Shin Godzilla’. Estoy maravillado con todas las teorías, historia, subtexto de esta entrega.

  • @greglandry3560
    @greglandry3560 5 місяців тому +12

    Quick comment/correction on the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant disaster. The loss of power resulted in a meltdown of core material due to lack of ability to cool the core, but there were no radioactive explosions that blew radioactivity into the air. There was indeed a containment building explosion caused by hydrogen build-up. There was also an airborne plume that was radioactive, but it followed wind patterns and was not a result of the hydrogen explosion. Not super important in the context of the movie discussion but felt compelled to clarify.
    Great movie and great video! I think original 1954, Shin, and Minus One are the best 3. I enjoyed Minus One the most.

  • @Y4manata
    @Y4manata 3 місяці тому +3

    i think the little humanoid creatures at the tail is a reminder that, just like when godzilla escaped before the SDF could open fire, the situation couldve been way worse AGAIN had they not acted fast enough. Just a fun reminder.

  • @nolan1062
    @nolan1062 4 місяці тому +7

    I think your theory of Godzilla being possessed by the spirit of Goro Maki's wife could go even further. What if the creature Godzilla itself was inadvertently responsible for the death of Goro Maki's wife, and that's why her spirit possessed it. If that's the case, then who's to say that the form of Godzilla couldn't then become host to the souls of all of it's victims throughout it's rampage. If this is true, then perhaps the humanoid forms growing off of Godzilla's tail were to each be possessed by the spirits of the victims. This could either be for 2 reasons to me. The more scientific evolutionary reason would be that the biology of Godzilla would not allow for multiple spirits to possess it, so it would proved exterior vessels for the spirits to possess to return to the single spirit of Goro Maki's wife, which it's final form would later represent. The more spiritual or mythical reason would be that this was a conscious attempt by Goro Maki's wife to bring back all the people she inadvertently killed due to an intense feeling of guilt, which makes the freezing of Godzilla even more tragic, since she was stopped from even attempting to atone for her actions.

  • @KaiDrawsShit03
    @KaiDrawsShit03 3 місяці тому +3

    I’ve been a huge Godzilla fan since I was a kid and Shin Godzilla is my favorite (Minus One is a close second I think). Just the supreme body horror of its second phase, always bleeding and rapidly growing and evolving. Plus the deleted scene of Godzilla puking blood is just so gross (in the best way). Also, as an American, the fact that America only wants Godzilla nuked when they realize he could get over seas and trying to leverage their information is supremely accurate sadly.

  • @Nchubbz
    @Nchubbz 5 місяців тому +13

    1:03:15
    "You could call it a MechaGodzilla"
    *Jazz Starts*
    Jokes aside, fantastic video!

  • @WolfmanArt
    @WolfmanArt 5 місяців тому +20

    Shin, Minus One and the original 1954 are my favorite Godzilla films!

  • @aspen4786
    @aspen4786 4 місяці тому +3

    When I first watched the movie, I picked up on Godzilla’s story. However, I saw it this way.
    Here was a creature, so scared and confused. Its in pain, and lashing out because of it. It doesnt know why these people are attacking it. It truly doesnt know its size or strength anymore, as its body continues to change outside what it knows and can perceive. All it knows is that its trying to survive, wether from itself or from the world around it, it doesnt know. It cries out in pain, both for the life it knows it cant have, and for the life it knows its taken.

  • @lzsmith8
    @lzsmith8 4 місяці тому +12

    Gotta love and love and love the layered messages for this movie. The tragedy of Shin, the horror of the disasters, the trauma for Japan, mankind's struggle against a nearly unbeatable foe. Plus the music for this movie lives in my brain all the time. Awesome video! I hope you can keep making excellent content as such!

  • @chillylagarto7728
    @chillylagarto7728 5 місяців тому +64

    Awesome video, was a pleasure to listen to
    I don't completely agree with the second part of your Goro Maki theory, your first part seems more believable with Godzilla being more of a creature finding itself in unfortunate circumstances.
    I personally came up with the idea that Godzilla was Goro Maki himself, having thrown himself into the bay where his biology fused with that of the aquatic Godzilla. It'd explain why Shin eventually developed the humanoid forms (using Maki's DNA). With the phrase "I did what I wanted, now you do the same" combined with how Shin Godzilla proceeds to invade Tokyo would mean that Goro's "spirit" or "memories" would drive the Creature to seek Destruction on the surface.
    It's a much more cynical take on Goro Maki's character, but since we don't Really know how he felt about his wife's suffering, it's hard to say how he felt about it all.

    • @ryanlozano9086
      @ryanlozano9086 5 місяців тому +5

      I feel like Godzilla and Maki were fused as one but also were separated being more like that there’s a human shape mouth at Godzilla tail that might actually be maki and it moves on it own also some scenes where Godzilla looks at his back as if waiting for orders

  • @bird.skullz7338
    @bird.skullz7338 3 місяці тому +4

    i believe that goro maki believed he could be reunited with his wife if he was absorbed by the creature, especially given what we've seen from anno before, w/ gendo literally turning all of humanity back into the primordial orange soda to be reunited with his wife in nge. its so so interesting comparing the two; if u pay attention, the angels in eva also go through a sort of evolution, improving their forms based on how the eva units defeated the previous angel. kaworu (or tabris ig) also appears as humanoid. both are stunning works, and so was this video!! keep it up!!!

    • @randallbesch2424
      @randallbesch2424 Місяць тому

      This is definitely alien to current life on this planet. Can you imagine humans being able to do that? All life on a planet with that capability?

  • @mmeers89
    @mmeers89 4 місяці тому +4

    What if the humanoid Gojiras were only possible through Goromaki's DNA. His boat was near where Gojira first appeared in the film. What if Goro's body was absorbed into Gojira and he was able to process it after days and utilize it for his next stage of evolution?

  • @MattDoesLife539
    @MattDoesLife539 Місяць тому +3

    I read this comment on another video about Shin Godzilla, "Shin Godzilla is the equivalent of a mind that wants to die but with a body that fights to survive, an immortal victim".

  • @jimmuthedeath1215
    @jimmuthedeath1215 4 місяці тому +6

    An entire iceberg could be made on this movie alone.

  • @aidenmb7932
    @aidenmb7932 5 місяців тому +30

    Hell yeah more Shin Godzilla content to binge.
    Also (as cliché as it is to say) for how impressive your videos are you really deserve more subscribers

  • @BobtheX
    @BobtheX 5 місяців тому +12

    I just watched this movie for the first time a few days ago after seeing Godzilla Minus One in theatres. I was blown away by how much I loved it. It feels like a Godzilla movie made with my exact tastes in mind. Haunting and cerebral. A really good "holy shit" movie. The hyper competent main characters trapped in a suffocating beaurocratic system, a bit like Ghost in the Shell. The massive titles and typography used for everyone's name and every location. The cinematography was beyond gorgeous. The military operation against Goji halfway through the film was so cool. The atomic breath scene was fucking incredible, I've never been so stressed out watching a monster movie. But honestly, I just really loved the plot of this movie. The human characters were really engaging in their performances so it was a lot of fun watching them plan out their operations. Godzilla himself was such a terrifying presence whenever he was on screen. The stakes felt real in a way I wasn't expecting. All in all one of my favorite movies now.

  • @andrewcogdillcole3826
    @andrewcogdillcole3826 3 місяці тому +2

    I had a similar theory to yours after seeing the concept art, but mine's a bit more gruesome. The husband didn't see baby Shin Godzilla; he became Shin Godzilla. After she died the wife's soul remained and became something of a Goddess of revenge. When the husband died, he became the perfect catalyst that the goddess needed. His body grew and mutated into a freakish body of eyes, teeth and tumors until his body was capable of sustaining and housing the infant goddess.
    The husband became the womb eating and surviving to give birth to his wife, the new god who will rule a world of dark horrors. The inhabitants will be their children- the humanoids spawning from the tail.

  • @NeonPlanes
    @NeonPlanes 3 місяці тому +2

    I would say say Shin Godzilla is the complete opposite of Lovecraftian. It's the most scientifically viable one of them all so far

  • @paulaburrows8660
    @paulaburrows8660 5 місяців тому +4

    The Idea that it was constantly mutating and that deleted scene with the chucks of fallen flesh growing eyes! Body horror at it finest. I hope we don't ever get a follow up because the ending was perfect. There is worst to come. . . sometime.

  • @bennieshan6544
    @bennieshan6544 4 місяці тому +3

    The only Godzilla movie where Godzilla almost becomes a god.

  • @Givertak3
    @Givertak3 4 місяці тому +2

    That entire theory would make a great video game concept. Just someone diving deep into the biologist’s research and personal life while also observing Godzilla going through the rest of the stages.

  • @TheDreamrevolution
    @TheDreamrevolution 5 місяців тому +15

    16:00 - 16:08 : TERRIFYING!?! How Dare You! Kamata-Kun is ADORABLE! How Else would You explain Why this Form of Shin Godzilla has a HUGE Fanbase?

    • @beanoptodon
      @beanoptodon 5 місяців тому +1

      They're adorable but also terrifying considering the situation xD when you put them in a cute situation they become far more cute.

    • @SpireGuy
      @SpireGuy 5 місяців тому +2

      I know it wasn't on purpose but it DID kill a bunch of hopeless children and citizens

    • @tenderandmoist5011
      @tenderandmoist5011 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@SpireGuycutely tho

  • @bhargavipba
    @bhargavipba 2 місяці тому +1

    The abrupt cuts between the quiet, boring meetings and Godzilla just absolutely decimating the city were horrifying and hilarious at the same time.
    Also, absolutely amazing analysis of the movie. The theory of what Shin Godzilla could be and the tragedy of the monster is heartbreaking. The sheer possibility of it makes me sad.

  • @TheM.A.D.
    @TheM.A.D. 5 місяців тому +19

    Yo!! Loved this commentary my guy! You really bring out the terror of the creature and a lot of the cool character elements that are not as obvious to see, well done!!

  • @darkpalidin
    @darkpalidin 3 місяці тому +2

    I somewhat recall seeing concept art on Shin's next stage of evolution, where one of the ideas was turning it into a giant, female-shaped humanoid - kind of typical Anno stuff. But I would think that might lend credence to the theory that it's the spirit of Maki's wife in the monster, which I had never considered before.

  • @CEOmagi
    @CEOmagi 4 місяці тому +4

    Japan is the only most badass countries to exist on earth that endure such horrible things and still be better than most of the country change my mind 🗿

  • @thesuperslayer7864
    @thesuperslayer7864 5 місяців тому +4

    I believe one possible point to the relationship between shin and goro is the battle between nature and man and humanity wins. Since humanity has always wanted to be in control so what if man eventually gains the knowledge to control the weather, stop natural disasters, prevent illnesses, become the masters of evolution, and conquer life and death. If we do then I would say humanity has turned into a god, so question is will we benevolent or monsters like shin

  • @intercontinentalballisticben
    @intercontinentalballisticben 2 місяці тому +2

    slightly darker theory: it's not his wife's spirit in goji, his wife was mutated into goji

  • @zanderstick
    @zanderstick 5 місяців тому +7

    Shin has been one of my favorite designs for Goji only just barely surpassed by Minus One. Both of them are the perfect examples of how horrifying something like Godzilla can be. Great video overall

  • @TheSerpentsEye
    @TheSerpentsEye 4 місяці тому +3

    As someone who is only a few years into Goji worship, I just watched Shin a few days ago. It has haunted me since, and I cannot wait to strap TF in to this video.
    Thank you in advance. ❤

  • @bunnyflop3864
    @bunnyflop3864 2 місяці тому +2

    I have also found out about the lyric video of the song (Who Will Know) playing while he was using atomic breath for the first time, and it showed me the absolute different perspective of screams and reaction of Godzilla. It is said, that the female voice represents Godzillas mind, while the male voice instinct to survive or Goro Maki seeking revenge. It showed a broken creature; whose mind wants to die, while body fights to survive, as one of the people in comments mentioned.
    Gojira also represents the unfathomable pain of people suffering because of exposure to radiation. A manifestation of their agony.
    Each time I rewatched the movie it added a new layer of tragedy and suffering.
    Absolutely heartbreaking.
    A masterpiece.

  • @gavinschlachta9276
    @gavinschlachta9276 5 місяців тому +11

    When I first found this channel I thought it had way more subscribers just cause the quality of it which is really good, hope you keep going!

    • @whitty_guy_
      @whitty_guy_  5 місяців тому +4

      I have no plans on stopping anytime soon 😁

  • @fiduong5605
    @fiduong5605 3 місяці тому +2

    I enjoy your storytelling ability. I relate to the story of Hideaki Anno's depression and something about this video, I am unable to tell at this moment what is is, but it gives me some comfort from what is currently, a very low point in my life.

    • @whitty_guy_
      @whitty_guy_  3 місяці тому +1

      Well I'm glad my video could help at least a little. Films like this are a great help to me in low moments. Hoping you get through yours soon

    • @fiduong5605
      @fiduong5605 Місяць тому

      ​@whitty_guy_
      It's been some time, but at this current moment, I am far more optimistic , perhaps more than I should be but I have a new job thats pays better than my last and spending a lot of quality time with my son. I feel now that I am finally get my life back together in some small way since 2021.
      I still come back to this video from time to time and noticed that I had neglected to leave a like and for that I apologize.

  • @TheWorstAussie
    @TheWorstAussie 5 місяців тому +5

    I just found this channel from this one video and wow, I was not expecting your sub count to be so low, to the point where I was partially offended on your behalf! The quality of this video is spectacular, and deserves so much more popularity than it has. Not only is the video amazing, but your charismatic manner and excellent storytelling skills are admirable on their own. 100% would recommend anyone with an interest in kaijus to your channel!

  • @skrappothemonster1436
    @skrappothemonster1436 Місяць тому +3

    In *Who Will Know* there are two voices singing, a woman's voice and a man's voice. The woman sings about her sorrow and hopelessness, while the man sings about how he must carry on and stay alive. I completely agree with your theory about Goro's wife's spirit inhabiting Gojira and being the female voice singing... but I personally think that it's far more likely that the male voice is either Goro, who possibly joined his wife in Gojira as the tail; or Gojira himself, the animal that was turned into a monster.

  • @jessicamack1523
    @jessicamack1523 5 місяців тому +3

    Another fun throw back to Godzilla 1954 was Goro Maki was from Odo Island where Godzilla appeared in 1954.

  • @guybuddy1
    @guybuddy1 5 місяців тому +4

    I've always liked Godzilla without other monsters. Shin Godzilla is the pinnacle of that.
    Minus One was a very good movie, but IMO the Godzilla in that one was not as horrifying as Shin.

  • @hypebeasto-kun9539
    @hypebeasto-kun9539 4 місяці тому +2

    My personal theory is that the professor goromaki found evidence that sea life has been hugely affected by the waste, and was slowly mutating and when he tried to publish, the lobbyists forced him out. I think he willingly became the catalyst for the first form change. Using his position and his biology background and funding, he was obsessed over creating "gojira" the divine punishment that he willed upon the japanese and american governments. He developed a new isotope or another form of radioactive catalyst forced the change. To sneak it into japan he administered it himself. Becoming irradiated and slowly succumbing to it like his wife. And finally sacrifing himself for gojira. His body being consumed and rapidly changing the organisms feeding on radioactive matter. The tadpole forming and changing its form as his pain and rage consumed the "mind" of the creature.

  • @mrsubject1
    @mrsubject1 4 місяці тому +5

    That second form is intimidating as hell, those silly googly eyes on the first were disconcerting but kinda funny lol

  • @cambruce1237
    @cambruce1237 5 місяців тому +5

    Wow, this is an amazing essay on also my favorite Godzilla film. That, and the little jokes you did along the way, I see you and your channel soaring. Also, the underlying narrative of the scientist and his partner was heartbreaking, and I never thought about that. A real tear jerker, honestly.

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
    @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 4 місяці тому +3

    I loved this video! I love the movie and despite how much I love Minus One I do love this more. The monster is so tragic. I hadn't heard the wife-spirit theory before but I love it. I can get behind it as a possibility.

  • @heavysystemsinc.
    @heavysystemsinc. 5 місяців тому +8

    I get the impression that because godzilla keeps evolving to deal with the changing threats it faced, that the final mutation we see is an interruption...but not of freezing itself but of forced evolution...i.e. using godzillas strength against itself. At least that was my take. I also really liked how the solutions that were needed in real life to deal with fukashimas leaking and the multiple teams who knew theyre going to die. I know folks didnt like the anticlimactic battle, but it stayed in very close line with its source material. Even just having a dead gozilla in the distance...fukashkma plant is still there.

  • @kristoffersoelmark674
    @kristoffersoelmark674 2 місяці тому +2

    My head canon is that Goro in his depression swam down to Gojira and allowed it to consume him - this, to me, explains why Gojiras tail takes on humanoid qualities during his latter forms.
    Although this is my interpretation I genuinely love yours!

  • @cthulhluftagn3812
    @cthulhluftagn3812 5 місяців тому +4

    Seeing Shins first form in motion kills all worry you have from seeing its goofy ass in preview stills.
    It gose from "oh whats that" too "Oh what is THAT!?!"
    There is NOTHING behind those eyes, they are dead fish eyes.
    Shin is killing thousands and it isnt even aware that it even exists..

  • @NeoInsomniac
    @NeoInsomniac 4 місяці тому +3

    As someone who doesn't like the movie, I do really like hearing people who do talk about it.
    Helps me see what they saw, even if I don't fully feel the same way.

  • @ShinzGodzilla
    @ShinzGodzilla 3 місяці тому +1

    This video is phenomenal and the theory that Goji is Goro Maki’s wife is SO GOOD. The movie already gave me a sense of despair for Goji because of the pain and suffering but this ups it to a new level

  • @portobeIIa
    @portobeIIa Місяць тому +1

    i watched this movie where i was in a though spot mentally - a long term existencial crisis at 20 trying to grasp the fact that one day i'll die and most of our days are forgotten by ourselves. pretty heavy stuff! anyways, this movie was so effective that it triggered a full blown panic attack as i was watching it. i just started sobbing and not because i was scared of a silly dinosaur guy, but because shin godzilla encapsulated everything my animal brain fears and showed it to me on screen.
    i was watching it with my boyfriend and to this day i wont admit that i was crying because of the movie, lol. i definetly dont have the guts to watch it again but i have nothing but respect for this movie. nothing from the monsterverse could dream to compare to how the godzilla of death lingers on your mind

  • @Fire-Hydrant-Cactus
    @Fire-Hydrant-Cactus 21 день тому +2

    I always thought that the female voice in “who will know” was the conscience of shin godzilla singing about its agony and wishing for death, and the more powerful voice is the body refusing to die, but I like the idea shown in this video too.

  • @DarthZ01
    @DarthZ01 3 місяці тому +3

    meanwhile, if in america: mr. president, there's some weird bloody steam venting from the ocean. some people have claimed it may be some giant creatu- wait why did you just hit that red button?

  • @cammyNpammy
    @cammyNpammy 3 місяці тому +1

    The one thing that struck me in this entire hour long video was how little I knew about the Fukushima incident and just how devastating and mind blowing the incident was. I'm astonished we don't talk about it more and it's effects

  • @sofewrebelsanymore1219
    @sofewrebelsanymore1219 3 місяці тому +1

    I bought Shin Godzilla not knowing what to expect, and the only other time I've been that blown away by a movie was the first time I watched Akira

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 3 місяці тому +1

    This movie was so haunting the first time I watched it, especially coming off the heels of Zola 2014 and my personal favorite: giant monsters all out attack, it was surreal and insane and human and introspective, it really opened my eyes to the lore story driven aspect of Godzilla

  • @JD-gn1oy
    @JD-gn1oy 5 місяців тому +3

    What you claim is the "coolest part" is also one of the most terrifying, think how far those beams actually go. I have no idea and it didn't show them ending(I don't think)
    So uh forget aliens getting angry let's just think of the fallout of such a attack. Asteroids/ meteors, satellites and the absolute destruction of that city within minutes. His dispersion of nuclear energy would be to much for earth..I mean maybe idk
    Oh man it's scary especially when I can barely get it in text!
    Edit: forgot to mention that yeah I agree it is a truly awesome scene! Whoopsies

  • @bombomos
    @bombomos 2 місяці тому +4

    Shin means 4 in japan. The number 4 is the number of death and the eastern's version of 13. The superstition of the number 4 is so real alot of business buildings dont have a 4th floor.
    Thats my take away from the Shin name.
    Its the Godzilla of Death.
    Edit: holy shit!!! That theory about Goro's wife. Its heartbreaking

  • @jamesbacon4177
    @jamesbacon4177 4 місяці тому +4

    I give you the term, ‘dinnermission’ and wish you the best.
    Great video

  • @jackoconnell441
    @jackoconnell441 5 місяців тому +4

    The fact that you don’t even have 1k subs and this video was THIS good, crazy, subscribed.

  • @w1zardelf
    @w1zardelf Місяць тому +1

    no matter how many times i watch this movie (or even hear people talk about it), the two scenes that ALWAYS give me shivers up my spine and scare me is the dna sequencing conversation scene and (OF COURSE!) the destruction of tokyo. shin godzilla is the god of pain, destruction, and evolution. absolutely terrifying.
    i love your enthusiasm for this amazing movie.

  • @ThoughtBomb01
    @ThoughtBomb01 5 місяців тому +2

    Bro this is top tier content. Watched your ranking video first and subscribed instantly. Your understanding of what you speak of really takes these to the next levep.

  • @ShadenRyanStudio
    @ShadenRyanStudio 5 місяців тому +5

    Shin Godzilla is the most interesting version. Minus one is a better movie, but I love how Godzilla is portrayed in Shin Godzilla

  • @randomdudeeveryoneknows
    @randomdudeeveryoneknows 27 днів тому +2

    Wish they would do the sequel. I NEED to see his other forms. Honestly, this version of shin godzilla is my favorite version of zilla period.

  • @lawvno
    @lawvno 3 місяці тому +2

    This has to be one of my favourite videos- The concept of Shin Godzilla has always amazed me since I first watched the movie and I really couldn't quite put my finger on why. I think this video really does it justice, I get it now.
    Beyond that I really love your personality and the way you talk about stuff you clearly love so much- I'm excited about going through the rest of your videos now!

  • @JarMar3296
    @JarMar3296 5 місяців тому +4

    As much as I love Godzilla Minus One I do think Shin Godzilla is more original, in both the way it portrays Godzilla's affect on humanity as well as it's new look.

  • @yaboi701
    @yaboi701 5 місяців тому +2

    Hats off to you sir. I mean this as the upmost compliment I can give you. I did not expect such a great, funny, tragically amazing video from such a small channel. This video along with the others I’ve watched are amazing. I hope you get the following you deserve.

  • @briacbauthamy4720
    @briacbauthamy4720 4 місяці тому +4

    the point of lovecraftian books and horror is to make you feel insignificant. The message of Shin Gozilla is "keep fighting even if it looks over". It's like THE OPPOSITE OF LOVECRAFTIAN HORROR (creator said it in an interview so DOTA is not usable)

  • @piefrosty319
    @piefrosty319 2 місяці тому +1

    Just found this on my feed, first time seeing your channel, you got me hooked my dude. Shin Godzilla is and probably always will be my favorite monster movie, right next to Peter Jackson’s King Kong

  • @tristanband4003
    @tristanband4003 2 місяці тому +2

    Hideki Anno is a very lucky man to have someone in his life he loves very much and who loves him very much.