I've watched lots of videos...n you guys got em all beat...like the way y'all break down topics..n put things in layman terms....thanks again for another great video
I am 66 years old and my dad bought me a Benjamin Blue Streak .20 cal when I was 12 years old. I never cleaned that barrel in my life and that gun still smacks the bullseye every time :)
Great advice from really knowledgeable guys, especially Tom. To add my $.02 worth, the few times I clean my PCP's, I just use a length of round weed trimmer line with a small "nub" melted onto one end, the other end sharpened. Poke the point thru the center of a patch, slide the patch down the line to the nub, and pull it thru the bore from the breech end. Works great. Not sure where I found that tip years ago, but I *think* it was from Ted Bier.
I also use the weedeater line but i do it a little different now. I used to just use a patch but now I use one of those cleaning pellets and poke the weed eater line through the center of it then poke though a patch to put on top of the pellet. That really fills the barrels rifling and get everything out.
Wow! Gentleman, thank you. I know this video dates back 5 years, but I’ve learned so much here. I wish that I watched this before ruining my Crosman 2240. I’m relatively new to air guns, so I went ahead and used my .22 cleaning kit I used for my, well, let’s say, my regular firearms. After cleaning my 2240, gas started leaking badly. The solvents I used must have damaged the seals. I’ll purchase another 2240 and leave it alone, other than a drop of pellet oil on the tip of the CO2 cartridge each load. Again, much thanks.
Some barrels become more accurate as they become ‘leaded in’. Others will become more accurate after they’ve been cleaned. I clean a new gun before shooting it, then learn the gun. When I decide to clean the gun, it’s probably because a few pellets are going astray and I want to find out whether a ‘cleaning’ will correct the gun;s accuracy. After that, I decide what’s best for the type of gun. I’m only using sub 12ft lbs air rifles , but I wash and clean and lightly oil my pellets too. My regimen, adds up to accurate shooting. Thanks for the vid. It’s been interesting listening to these fellas, they’re a well of good info between them. Thanks fellas.
EXCELLENT POINT ! 10:24 "...and if you have a silencer, these things get stuck in the baffles." I did that day #1 with a cleaning rod while pushing patch through to clean the gunk from the manufacturer (never fired, but filthy bore). The patch disappeared in the baffles and took a while to fish out. Crosman Valiant .22
3:57 I'm glad this guys covered the worry I had about leaving my 88g cartage in my air rifle is new and I dint want to damage the piston or any seals. Now I'm well relaxed.
Clean your barrel every 4 tins or so with a pull thru. Break barrel lube your pivot points. Wipe her down with Ballistol on metal parts occasionally. Orange oil your wood stock one or twice a year. Pretty easy.
I clean and oil my airguns anyways. Just to keep them from rusting. Like i do all my guns. Airguns are just guns that shoot with air. I never treat them like toys. Just like my father taught me. All guns can be dangerous. Safety first.
Awesome I’ll keep both my Benjamin Armada’s at 2,800-3,000PSI. .22 for plinking in the backyard, and small game. Just got my .25 Caliber for coyotes, small hogs, and varmints. I love these airguns, especially durning the pandemic. Big step up in accuracy and power from my first Gamo Springer.
Yeah I got a .22 cal FX shorty bullpup, I can't even remember what the model is called anymore. Even though I only got it acouple years ago lol, but want to but the .25 cal barrel kit. In case we've got to go apocalypto, I can easily hunt small game. The .22 "can" but not that well, an not like coyote etc..
I have a 177 springer. To "clean" it, I fire a silicone soaked Q-tip. It fits nice and snug. I have to admit it's more of an OCD thing as I never let my air rifle and/or pellets anywhere near mud or crap.
I got a cheap Benjamin nitro piston. I like it alot i did a tattoo for It. It came with a petty darn good scope. Best ive had on an air Rifle don't know if it was stock or added after purchase. Anyways i shoot it alot. I had problems with all the screws rattleing loose no matter how tight I'd get them so i used black finger nail polish and painted all around the threads and around the head after tight. I was missing a scope bracket so i used a little J/B WELD on all of it but in a way i could cut it off if I need too. Im shooting 1 inch groups at 50-60 yards. Never have to zero the scope in anymore. I used a drop of silicone in the hole of the piston and the next shot sounded like a .22 long rifle and some vapor like smoke. It ripped part of my seal at the breach of my barral. I think it dieseled and ignited. I did this every 200 shots for awhile and i dont think i will to this again. Ill prolly drive it till the tires fall off or take the nitro piston apart and hand clean and lube all pieces and seals with silicone. Does anyone know is it necessary or will it damage piston using silicone dropped in hole?
Have a diana 48, clean bore @ about 50 to 75 rounds, after cleaning must fire 3to 5 rounds to get back to consistancy. The cleaning solvet used is "sea foam"
I am currently working on a leak with my air rifle. I noticed they used a white milky sealant on the threads. Does anyone know what substance it could be? I’ve tried Teflon tape, but it won’t hold air.
QUESTION: With a break barrel air rifle, do you ever have to lubricate the part (pivot, or whatever you call it) where the barrel breaks? How? I have heard that when the surfaces wear out you lose accuracy because the slack in the barrel will increase.
It's mainly the "ball bearing" or the "latching piece," at the break. I got some *"Outers choke tube & gun grease,"* from Walmart that works perfect. It's just like a thick silicone grease / lube, so it sits and doesn't run. Therefore requiring reapplication, but they stopped selling it since the pandemic. At least at the stores around me, an I'm no longer sure where to find it. A single bottle can last almost a life time, but yeah a little goop of that when it starts to get dry. Will help to keep that mechanism from wearing down, ensuring your break is clean and holds properly.
I've been firearm friendly since I was 13 years old I'm going on 55 ... my father gave me this Remington air rifle more than 10 years ago... I have never cleaned it probably only target practice once a year. but I've never had a problem with it. So before I gave away the beautiful gun cleaning kit I have I decided to watch a couple videos. And yours was about the third one I stopped at and I'm done. thank you guys!!! I still shoot what I want to with my glasses off ... so I'm giving away the kit!! To someone that has a 30 odd six and a 22. Yeah they let me play with them too! because my old Remington don't need nothing but the DUST Blown off
just watched your video for the first time here in the UK and i really enjoyed it, i like the info you guys gave and how you broke it down. liked and subscribed
I was thinking 1.125" patches with 20 weight non detergent synthetic motor oil for a .22 multi-pumper.after Crosman Premier or H & N Barracuda shooting . . . So now I'm thinking every couple or three months for a compromise between cleaning and not so much lol.
It is said not to use petroleum based oils on the co2 cylinder, as they will ruin seals. I looked up Pellgun Oil, which is recommended to lube the tops of the co2 cylinders, but also seen information that Pellgun Oil is petroleum based? Please give some input on this - thank you.
My experience is very different. I have found that after 500 to 1000 shots, my accuracy will fall off. I run 1 wet patch which will be filthy. Then 3 or 4 dry patches. The last of the dry patches is still a little dirty. And after this, my accuracy is restored. This is MY experience with MY rifle. After 1000's of shots, this is what ive learned.
You make a good point. Every rifle can be different. Some actually prefer a little lead run through them before they are accurate. That’s why it is important to take your time and learn the rifle that you have. Thanks for sharing that experience.
I just use lots of anti corrosion lithium mechanical grease on all the internals and clean the seal holes ,wet the seals with some advanced liquid bearings.
That exact thing happened to me. My .22 air rifle was shooting good and I ended up seeing a video about how you need to clean your air rifle so I did. Big mistake accuracy was gone. After around 30 shots it was shooting good again. That's the last time I cleaned it. Won't do it again unless something changes with the grouping.
Thats lead pellets leaving a small trace behind. Airguns are not like powderburners (no gunpowder) and need a thin film to ride on. Cleaning removes this film and itll take 20-30 shots bring it back. Its ok to clean the barrel, but just be aware of this phenomenon .
I realize this is old but Excellent video great advice I learned alot. If your still out there I have a question. I have a HY-SCORE model 815 .22 break barrel pistol ( diana 5 i guess) will not shoot the pellet, can I lube the seals somehow with something I am not familiar with these things at all but trying to learn as I go. Thanks in advance.
I own a Diana 52. 22 cal. Bought it new when they first came out many years ago. Was in the closet for many years, less than 500 rounds through it. Going to start shooting it again. Is there anything that has to be lubed up that does not require taking it apart. It's in perfect condition but hasn't been fired in many years.
Several, maybe many, years ago, the topic of lubing pellets was very popular... helped to reduce any "leading" for high power airguns, and greatly reduce the need for cleaning your barrels... so lubing helped maintain your barrel. Back then, Slick 50 One Lube was recommended for PCP guns, and Finish Line KryTech chain wax lubricant for spring pistons, although I think it was also recommended for PCP's, but you could not use One Lube in a springer. I mainly shoot springers, and do use KryTech to lube my pellets... it does not take much to do a tin or box of pellets... best to clean the pellets before hand to remove residue... again from what was recommended way back then. Opinions on lubing ?
I spray a bit of silicone into every container of pellets/bbs. Silicone will not cause dieseling. I do not "wash" the pellets or bbs first; although, to each their own! Whatever works!
@@MichaelWhite-cx4ho You never noticed all the blackish-gray residue on various pellets fresh in a tin ? If you scrub them clean in a small colander with Dawn dish soap and an old toothbrush, the bristles on the tooth brush turn gray !
well it's a good thing I saw this video as I eventually do intend to purchase my first PCP what would be the Benjamin bulldog in 357 now I know that you are actually supposed to leave pressure in a pre-charged Pneumatic I was also planning on putting a little silicone oil on the fill fitting about once every three times I fill it up just to keep a little silicone oil running through the system and keeping all those seals well maintained.
4:12. The seals will be ruined because the O-rings have remained compressed for too long. Dependent upon what the O-ring compound is and it's hardness will have a role in how long such an O-ring can remain compressed without suffering permanent deformation and or failure.
Geez..I wish I had seen this before I put cleaning pellets through my Gamo 10X Magnum Pro Gen3i. What a mistake to make with a silencer!! Like to never got that straightened out...not real sure I did fix it completely.
I have hatsan 125 vortex . I can't get it to pressure up . A very weak shot and will not push a pellet out the barrel . I need to know what direction to go .
I have a air Venturi avenger 25 caliber I use silicone oil for the seals use balistol for the outside now is moly paste or moly grease bad for my probe says in the owners manual to apply a bit every 3 months or so ??
Yeah i only use magnum springers (add pcps hopefully soon) i always find a good heavy pellet to maximize it for range and terminal performance. My crosman summit ranger np2 as an example. I use 9.8gr round nose and 10.5gr and BOTH get in the 1023/1035 range at 23.5fpe ish. No fouling and stacks all day long. The 9.8gr round nose is accurate (HUNTING accurate) out to 70yds. I get a 1/4in group reliably. I'm REALLY hoping to get some h&n sniper magnums and fet my imagined results too lol.
I am about to go downstairs and do the same thing with the same rifle and the same adjustable butt plate. My question is, why didn't Weihrauch include an adjustable butt plate with the Blackline series? An adjustable butt plate is installed on all of the wood stocked 97K's from the factory!
Hello Old Gezzers, I have a question for you or anybody,, I was told to shoot a tin of pellets before mounting a scope on .22 springer rifle or any .177 when you buy them brand new.. I don’t clean the barrel ever I just lube it as for CO2 cartridges,one session of 40-60 shoots and it’s done. Crosman 2240 can get about 30-40 good shoots 1322 and 1377 you can shoot until your hands fall off…
Hi guys, i have a hammerli springer and an air arms s510 pcp, i dont so much do anything to my rifles as far as maintenance goes, if there not shooting straight i check the scope mounts, on the pcp theres a pin stop near the front mount, and on the back mount i have the magazine housing, so i have kind of trapped the scope mounts between them to minimise front/back movements of the scope mounts, but to be honest theres little to no recoil, so its more for if i knock the scope if i fall over with the gun, which i try not to do As for cleaning, i shoot 16 grain pellets, i dont know if that helps, but i havent cleaned the bore yet, and they both put a 10 shot group into a half inch circle Exterior cleaning i have been told a trick, dont use factory made/synthetic gun oil if your hunting, because critters will smell it a mile away and run, i dont know how true that is, but i tend to put a drop of corn oil on a rag and wipe the fingerprints off every part of the gun, metal and stock I have naturally oily skin, and my body oil seems to be slightly acidic, and i have known to rust metal really fast by touching it, so i do wipe my guns down after almost every use, i havent had a problem yet They say oil is like a water displacement fluid, and stops the stock rotting too, again, i dont know, im only going on what im told, but it seems to be working I keep the springer un-cocked when not in use, so the spring isnt compressed I keep the pcp charged up full to 190 bar to stop the cylinder seals relaxing, i havent had air leak out of it yet
Do you guys have any insight on DPMS Pather Arms full auto blow back SBR m4/ at replica made by Crosman. I’ve had two of them catastrophically fail on me. First one a bb got stuck in the barrel near the magazine. This last one it would malfunction after one shot and then click. I field stripped it. Parts were worn, my assembly normal wear and tear, but functioning. Then I fired it again and it failed after one shot and then for the life of me could not get the upper to separate from the lower. It was locked or frozen together. Luckily with a store credit and a great retail store they traded out a brand new 3rd. I have a feeling it has to do with maintenance, cleaning and oiling it. I cannot get a clear answer on what oil to use. Cros man authorized dealers say put oil on the bb that should do: other you tubers say to oil o rings and moving parts. Which obviously makes sense. But no clear answer on oil type, application areas, and frequency. I’ve babied each one of DPMS sbr’s I’ve owned. Now I’m apprehensive about even operating the BB gun because I think the store I purchased the gun from will not be so kind with a fourth weapon. Is this sbr DPMS just a lemon? Have you hear anything? Any insight from you guys on the channel or any commenters would be greatly appreciated. 👍
Yeah I hear you bro I’ve been trying to find the right products to use as well. I see all these products they use on UA-cam and I can never find the exact ones in the store. I’ve shot 3000 shots out of my R1 and it’s time to lubricate.There’s so many different things set on these videos and like you said it’s conflicting but it does make sense to lubricate the O-rings and everything else. The book for the rifle says to just put 2 drops of that RMcoil stuff On those spots.
RWS chamber lube for the piston seal. Spring Cylinder oil for the spring. Only 2 drops per 1,000 shots on the piston seal. 4-5 drops on the spring at the same interval should do it.
@@UmarexAir It much depend on how much power your gun makes. The 30fpe springer guns will ignite 2 drops to about 25% more energy, (crony'ed it), and can damage the piston seal. I know putting a bit too much in will damage my seal, (bey my 32fpe gun made 80fpe that shot). Ignition in the compression chamber is a lot different, (harder on the piston seal), than ignition of some fuel in a pellet skirt. So, what do you do for more powerful springer guns? Nothing. Scotch bright the bore and change the piston seal when it loses power after thousands of shots. Worst thing I did to my big max springer, was put combustible lube in the combustion chamber.
EVERY co2 bb gun I've ever had, has broken because of LEAVING an old ( but still charged ) co2 in it. An ends destroying all the seals, to where the next time I place a new co2 in it. All of the air leaks out of the sides of the bb gun. An unless it's like some of these "newer airguns," where the co2 loads into the "magazine" that holds bb's. Which if ruined can be replaced, one that co2 seal is destroyed. The entire airgun is no longer good.
What about fresh out of the box. Would they need to ebcleaned then. I just got my first air gun and from what I see, every one who owned the one I have are saying to clean the barrel when I get it.
Manufacturers usually put a load of oily grease on the gun especially inside of the barrel to protect it in storage. They have no idea how long it will sit until its used. Clean your barrel on a new gun. It's worth it.
The graphits on the pellets to stop them sticking together most of it will be blown out the barrel what's left will only help keep the barrel smooth and dry.
I got a break barrel benjamin. Was on a rack in my moms house for a couple years untouched. I came back and seen that it’s rusty. Hawaii has that salty air that kills every toy a man owns. What should I do.
@@americanairgunner someone has suggested i use a compressor oil for my c02 gun, putting a drop onto the c02 canister before inserting it into my magazine. Is that ok?
I recently replaced the mainspring in my crosman optimus 22cal 950 fps air-rifle, I`m curious how much preload is normal, the new spring gives me 2 to 21/2 inches of preload. Is that normal or should i be cutting down the spring
Pull through patches is what we use on most of the airguns we test. A little ballistol oil on the first patch and then dry patches until it is clean. Start the patch at the breech and pull through the barrel so as not to get any crud into the transfer port. Some airguns perform better dirty, so we suggest you shoot it and only clean when accuracy is affected.
I have a Benjamin Marauder PCP .22. I have never been able to clean its barrel. It's shooting bull's eye. I have shot 1,500 rounds through its barrel. Do I need to clean it?
I would tend to agree. If it's still shooting accurately, I wouldn't worry about it. When things do start to change (and at some point they will) then it is time to clean. Just keep an eye on the round count so you know how often you need to clean in the future.
@@tylerpatner6591 thank you, Tyler, it's so nice to hear from you. I love your to-the-point reviews. Also, please suggest if cleaning pellets are a good idea and if yes, then how to use them correctly. Thank you.
@@reclusepilgrim Thanks! I appreciate the viewership. Cleaning pellets can be used effectively, but I prefer standard patches and a pull through (flexible rod) for cleaning. With your Marauder, get a drinking straw and stick it into the end of the shroud so you can feed your pull through, through the baffled section without it getting caught on anything. Or you can remove the shroud altogether by unscrewing it . I prefer the straw method for shrouded guns myself. The VFG cleaning kits are what I use if I have to use cleaning pellets, but outside of that, I use a flexible rod/pull through with patches.
@@americanairgunner Thanks but I just bought a Gamo Magnum. It is a ram air piston. So I heard and read not to use a petroleum based lube. Is that the Pellgun?
Yes my hatsan bullboss .25 ( 2 of them) shot way low when first bought. So I cleaned them and accuracy immediately improved. I also run a patch though every 500 to 1000 shots. And the reason is when I start noticing some variation in the shot I know it's time to clean.
Don’t clean it i ran a dry patch thru mine today and it lost power and accuracy. I shoot at wood targets usually pellets go thru board after i cleaned it pellets were stopping in wood surface
I've watched lots of videos...n you guys got em all beat...like the way y'all break down topics..n put things in layman terms....thanks again for another great video
I am 66 years old and my dad bought me a Benjamin Blue Streak .20 cal when I was 12 years old. I never cleaned that barrel in my life and that gun still smacks the bullseye every time :)
Usually only shows up at 50 yards and further or those shooters that one ragged hole for 5 shots that really need to keep it clean.
Great advice from really knowledgeable guys, especially Tom.
To add my $.02 worth, the few times I clean my PCP's, I just use a length of round weed trimmer line with a small "nub" melted onto one end, the other end sharpened. Poke the point thru the center of a patch, slide the patch down the line to the nub, and pull it thru the bore from the breech end. Works great.
Not sure where I found that tip years ago, but I *think* it was from Ted Bier.
Weed eater trick is a classic! Great reminder.
I also use the weedeater line but i do it a little different now. I used to just use a patch but now I use one of those cleaning pellets and poke the weed eater line through the center of it then poke though a patch to put on top of the pellet. That really fills the barrels rifling and get everything out.
Wow! Gentleman, thank you. I know this video dates back 5 years, but I’ve learned so much here. I wish that I watched this before ruining my Crosman 2240. I’m relatively new to air guns, so I went ahead and used my .22 cleaning kit I used for my, well, let’s say, my regular firearms. After cleaning my 2240, gas started leaking badly. The solvents I used must have damaged the seals. I’ll purchase another 2240 and leave it alone, other than a drop of pellet oil on the tip of the CO2 cartridge each load. Again, much thanks.
If you have the old 2240 you can buy new seals and get it shooting again. Plenty of videos to show you how.
@@americanairgunner I agree and have watched a number of them. I'm going to give it a try. Should be a fun project.
Absolutely agree with using Ballistol, great stuff.
Some barrels become more accurate as they become ‘leaded in’. Others will become more accurate after they’ve been cleaned. I clean a new gun before shooting it, then learn the gun. When I decide to clean the gun, it’s probably because a few pellets are going astray and I want to find out whether a ‘cleaning’ will correct the gun;s accuracy. After that, I decide what’s best for the type of gun. I’m only using sub 12ft lbs air rifles , but I wash and clean and lightly oil my pellets too. My regimen, adds up to accurate shooting. Thanks for the vid. It’s been interesting listening to these fellas, they’re a well of good info between them. Thanks fellas.
I’m new new to airguns and I just bought two new ones. I’m gonna start cleaning and lightly oiling them like you said but what oil do I use?
Perhaps this is the best information I come across to maintain air gun. These guys talk with experience
We try to help the beginners to experts.
EXCELLENT POINT !
10:24 "...and if you have a silencer, these things get stuck in the baffles."
I did that day #1 with a cleaning rod while pushing patch through
to clean the gunk from the manufacturer (never fired, but filthy bore).
The patch disappeared in the baffles and took a while to fish out.
Crosman Valiant .22
Use a straw to keep patches from being stuck in baffles. 👍
@Rockwell Rhodes Ask the maker of the air gun. How would I know?
On a side note, do you have any chickens ?
I love Ballistol. Heck I use it on my firearms, fishing rod reels etc. It's a darn good all around oil.
3:57 I'm glad this guys covered the worry I had about leaving my 88g cartage in my air rifle is new and I dint want to damage the piston or any seals. Now I'm well relaxed.
We are here to help!
I'm glad I watched this before spending good money on brushes and special oils.
Same
Me 2
DONT EVER USE PELLGUN OIL
@@paulbrig8951 Spot on Penguin oil is a massive no no!
Can someone explain why pellgunoil is what my manual says to use? I only use to grease the co2 before putting it in like they say in this video
Thanks, Guy's for the great content, shooting my air gun to keep it clean, I'm on it.
Rick is the bomb. He's the reason I have my favorite air rifle..gen.2 25. Benjamin marauder
Good video! Learned a lot! Thanks!
Nice to see the advice on Ballistol there
Clean your barrel every 4 tins or so with a pull thru. Break barrel lube your pivot points. Wipe her down with Ballistol on metal parts occasionally. Orange oil your wood stock one or twice a year. Pretty easy.
I clean and oil my airguns anyways.
Just to keep them from rusting.
Like i do all my guns.
Airguns are just guns that shoot with air.
I never treat them like toys.
Just like my father taught me.
All guns can be dangerous.
Safety first.
I agree I never treat them like a toy either but they kind of are ... mine always stays up higher than sometimes I can reach it safety first I agree
@@TediBare ‘They kind of are’. Please go shoot it at someone outside and we’ll see if it’s just a toy.
Even if you we shooting confetti,
You MAINTAIN YOUR GEAR.
So should i clean a spring action? I have one but the manual says only to clean the boar. Its working fine but id like an informed opinion
Ouch I’ve used about 5 of those cleaning pellets in raptor whisper now I’m wondering if I plugged my baffles or anything else. Great advice
As long as the entire cleaning pellet came out you are likely still good.
Awesome I’ll keep both my Benjamin Armada’s at 2,800-3,000PSI. .22 for plinking in the backyard, and small game. Just got my .25 Caliber for coyotes, small hogs, and varmints. I love these airguns, especially durning the pandemic. Big step up in accuracy and power from my first Gamo Springer.
Yeah I got a .22 cal FX shorty bullpup, I can't even remember what the model is called anymore. Even though I only got it acouple years ago lol, but want to but the .25 cal barrel kit. In case we've got to go apocalypto, I can easily hunt small game. The .22 "can" but not that well, an not like coyote etc..
I have a 177 springer. To "clean" it, I fire a silicone soaked Q-tip. It fits nice and snug. I have to admit it's more of an OCD thing as I never let my air rifle and/or pellets anywhere near mud or crap.
Thanks for the video, a lot of good insights. As for Ballistol, I don't know in the USA but here in Europe it's the go-to all-purpose oil for guns.
Many of us use it too.
@@americanairgunner Cheers!
Functions beautifully
My blowback gun stopped cycling and I was thinking of buying oil online but I just weakened the spring and it works just fine.
Sweet. Very pragmatic and charming.
Thank you kindly!
I was hoping you would talk about the flexible vs stiff bore cleaners. Mike in sunny Florida
I got a cheap Benjamin nitro piston. I like it alot i did a tattoo for
It. It came with a petty darn good scope. Best ive had on an air Rifle don't know if it was stock or added after purchase.
Anyways i shoot it alot. I had problems with all the screws rattleing loose no matter how tight I'd get them so i used black finger nail polish and painted all around the threads and around the head after tight.
I was missing a scope bracket so i used a little J/B WELD on all of it but in a way i could cut it off if
I need too.
Im shooting 1 inch groups at 50-60 yards. Never have to zero the scope in anymore. I used a drop of silicone in the hole of the piston and the next shot sounded like a .22 long rifle and some vapor like smoke.
It ripped part of my seal at the breach of my barral. I think it dieseled and ignited. I did this every 200 shots for awhile and i dont think i will to this again. Ill prolly drive it till the tires fall off or take the nitro piston apart and hand clean and lube all pieces and seals with silicone. Does anyone know is it necessary or will it damage piston using silicone dropped in hole?
I like that you all drink your coffee black. Good advice, thanks.
Where do you think Rossi gets his energy?
Have a diana 48, clean bore @ about 50 to 75 rounds, after cleaning must fire 3to 5 rounds to get back to consistancy. The cleaning solvet used is "sea foam"
Do you recommend washing and lubing all your pellets before shooting?
I am currently working on a leak with my air rifle. I noticed they used a white milky sealant on the threads. Does anyone know what substance it could be? I’ve tried Teflon tape, but it won’t hold air.
I just brought 2 cheap CO² Pistols. Planning on getting oil tool oil . Ask me it's an air tool ?
For CO2 airguns, you will want to use a drop of ATF oil on each cartridge to keep the seals lubed.
I'm looking at pcp air pistols. Does the user need to have the pistol's air tank inspected periodically to be safe with such high pressures ?
Great question. Most air tanks need to be checked every 3-5 years. Should say on the label or mfg. included manual.
That's very enlightening information....great job.
Very much enjoyed this roundtable! Very good info! Parker County Texas
awesome video, i ve got all my questions answered, thanks alot
Thanks for watching!
Excellent show with lots of wisdom ! keep it up gentlemen !
QUESTION: With a break barrel air rifle, do you ever have to lubricate the part (pivot, or whatever you call it) where the barrel breaks? How? I have heard that when the surfaces wear out you lose accuracy because the slack in the barrel will increase.
No mention of this in my Crosman Vantage .22 manual, so I won’t do it. But would love for others more experienced to chime in.
It's mainly the "ball bearing" or the "latching piece," at the break.
I got some *"Outers choke tube & gun grease,"* from Walmart that works perfect. It's just like a thick silicone grease / lube, so it sits and doesn't run. Therefore requiring reapplication, but they stopped selling it since the pandemic. At least at the stores around me, an I'm no longer sure where to find it.
A single bottle can last almost a life time, but yeah a little goop of that when it starts to get dry. Will help to keep that mechanism from wearing down, ensuring your break is clean and holds properly.
I've been firearm friendly since I was 13 years old I'm going on 55 ... my father gave me this Remington air rifle more than 10 years ago... I have never cleaned it probably only target practice once a year. but I've never had a problem with it. So before I gave away the beautiful gun cleaning kit I have I decided to watch a couple videos. And yours was about the third one I stopped at and I'm done. thank you guys!!! I still shoot what I want to with my glasses off ... so I'm giving away the kit!! To someone that has a 30 odd six and a 22. Yeah they let me play with them too! because my old Remington don't need nothing but the DUST Blown off
just watched your video for the first time here in the UK and i really enjoyed it, i like the info you guys gave and how you broke it down. liked and subscribed
I was thinking 1.125" patches with 20 weight non detergent synthetic motor oil for a .22 multi-pumper.after Crosman Premier or H & N Barracuda shooting . . . So now I'm thinking every couple or three months for a compromise between cleaning and not so much lol.
It is said not to use petroleum based oils on the co2 cylinder, as they will ruin seals. I looked up Pellgun Oil, which is recommended to lube the tops of the co2 cylinders, but also seen information that Pellgun Oil is petroleum based? Please give some input on this - thank you.
Not all oil will ruin seals. Pellgun Oil is actually ATF or Transmission Fluid. Only a drop is needed at the top of each CO2 cart.
My experience is very different. I have found that after 500 to 1000 shots, my accuracy will fall off. I run 1 wet patch which will be filthy. Then 3 or 4 dry patches. The last of the dry patches is still a little dirty. And after this, my accuracy is restored. This is MY experience with MY rifle. After 1000's of shots, this is what ive learned.
You make a good point. Every rifle can be different. Some actually prefer a little lead run through them before they are accurate. That’s why it is important to take your time and learn the rifle that you have. Thanks for sharing that experience.
I just use lots of anti corrosion lithium mechanical grease on all the internals and clean the seal holes ,wet the seals with some advanced liquid bearings.
That exact thing happened to me. My .22 air rifle was shooting good and I ended up seeing a video about how you need to clean your air rifle so I did. Big mistake accuracy was gone. After around 30 shots it was shooting good again. That's the last time I cleaned it. Won't do it again unless something changes with the grouping.
That happened to me too.. 🙄 esp when i put to much oil in the barrel.. so frustating by that time, clean but mess with accuracy
Thats lead pellets leaving a small trace behind. Airguns are not like powderburners (no gunpowder) and need a thin film to ride on. Cleaning removes this film and itll take 20-30 shots bring it back. Its ok to clean the barrel, but just be aware of this phenomenon .
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I realize this is old but Excellent video great advice I learned alot. If your still out there I have a question. I have a HY-SCORE model 815 .22 break barrel pistol ( diana 5 i guess) will not shoot the pellet, can I lube the seals somehow with something I am not familiar with these things at all but trying to learn as I go. Thanks in advance.
What about the Benjamin bulldog 357 should I clean it or leave it
I own a Diana 52. 22 cal. Bought it new when they first came out many
years ago. Was in the closet for many years, less than 500 rounds
through it. Going to start shooting it again. Is there anything that has
to be lubed up that does not require taking it apart. It's in perfect
condition but hasn't been fired in many years.
Several, maybe many, years ago, the topic of lubing pellets was very popular... helped to reduce any "leading" for high power airguns, and greatly reduce the need for cleaning your barrels... so lubing helped maintain your barrel.
Back then, Slick 50 One Lube was recommended for PCP guns, and Finish Line KryTech chain wax lubricant for spring pistons, although I think it was also recommended for PCP's, but you could not use One Lube in a springer.
I mainly shoot springers, and do use KryTech to lube my pellets... it does not take much to do a tin or box of pellets... best to clean the pellets before hand to remove residue... again from what was recommended way back then.
Opinions on lubing ?
I spray a bit of silicone into every container of pellets/bbs. Silicone will not cause dieseling. I do not "wash" the pellets or bbs first; although, to each their own! Whatever works!
@@MichaelWhite-cx4ho You never noticed all the blackish-gray residue on various pellets fresh in a tin ?
If you scrub them clean in a small colander with Dawn dish soap and an old toothbrush, the bristles on the tooth brush turn gray !
Old dude in the red is a real airgunner 😆
Great video. Very informative.... thank you.
well it's a good thing I saw this video as I eventually do intend to purchase my first PCP what would be the Benjamin bulldog in 357 now I know that you are actually supposed to leave pressure in a pre-charged Pneumatic I was also planning on putting a little silicone oil on the fill fitting about once every three times I fill it up just to keep a little silicone oil running through the system and keeping all those seals well maintained.
4:12. The seals will be ruined because the O-rings have remained compressed for too long. Dependent upon what the O-ring compound is and it's hardness will have a role in how long such an O-ring can remain compressed without suffering permanent deformation and or failure.
I have the New Hatson Blitz 22caliber Air Rifle what's the best way to clean and maintain it
always loves round table
Is it okay to leave air in a PCP or should I let the air out
Just leave the air in.
Thank you so much for your help
What is the take on Cleaning and lubricating pellets?
Geez..I wish I had seen this before I put cleaning pellets through my Gamo 10X Magnum Pro Gen3i. What a mistake to make with a silencer!! Like to never got that straightened out...not real sure I did fix it completely.
Ouch!
I have hatsan 125 vortex . I can't get it to pressure up . A very weak shot and will not push a pellet out the barrel . I need to know what direction to go .
Probably an o-ring inside of the gun. Find a local dealer or call pyramyd Air…or whoever you bought it from
I have a air Venturi avenger 25 caliber I use silicone oil for the seals use balistol for the outside now is moly paste or moly grease bad for my probe says in the owners manual to apply a bit every 3 months or so ??
Hey guys I have a bb stuck in the barrel of my umarex glock 17 gen 4 how do I get it out.
Yeah i only use magnum springers (add pcps hopefully soon) i always find a good heavy pellet to maximize it for range and terminal performance. My crosman summit ranger np2 as an example. I use 9.8gr round nose and 10.5gr and BOTH get in the 1023/1035 range at 23.5fpe ish. No fouling and stacks all day long. The 9.8gr round nose is accurate (HUNTING accurate) out to 70yds. I get a 1/4in group reliably.
I'm REALLY hoping to get some h&n sniper magnums and fet my imagined results too lol.
I am about to go downstairs and do the same thing with the same rifle and the same adjustable butt plate. My question is, why didn't Weihrauch include an adjustable butt plate with the Blackline series? An adjustable butt plate is installed on all of the wood stocked 97K's from the factory!
Hello Old Gezzers, I have a question for you or anybody,, I was told to shoot a tin of pellets before mounting a scope on .22 springer rifle or any .177 when you buy them brand new.. I don’t clean the barrel ever I just lube it as for CO2 cartridges,one session of 40-60 shoots and it’s done. Crosman 2240 can get about 30-40 good shoots 1322 and 1377 you can shoot until your hands fall off…
Not necessary!
@@americanairgunner I don’t know who to trust,that’s what salesman told me, I mounted 2 on.177 but not on.22 ..Anyway I will do it regardless…
Learned loads thanks guys
Pure class! Thanks for breaking the myth of all the 💩 about doing this and doing that! 👀👍🏴
Hi guys, i have a hammerli springer and an air arms s510 pcp, i dont so much do anything to my rifles as far as maintenance goes, if there not shooting straight i check the scope mounts, on the pcp theres a pin stop near the front mount, and on the back mount i have the magazine housing, so i have kind of trapped the scope mounts between them to minimise front/back movements of the scope mounts, but to be honest theres little to no recoil, so its more for if i knock the scope if i fall over with the gun, which i try not to do
As for cleaning, i shoot 16 grain pellets, i dont know if that helps, but i havent cleaned the bore yet, and they both put a 10 shot group into a half inch circle
Exterior cleaning i have been told a trick, dont use factory made/synthetic gun oil if your hunting, because critters will smell it a mile away and run, i dont know how true that is, but i tend to put a drop of corn oil on a rag and wipe the fingerprints off every part of the gun, metal and stock
I have naturally oily skin, and my body oil seems to be slightly acidic, and i have known to rust metal really fast by touching it, so i do wipe my guns down after almost every use, i havent had a problem yet
They say oil is like a water displacement fluid, and stops the stock rotting too, again, i dont know, im only going on what im told, but it seems to be working
I keep the springer un-cocked when not in use, so the spring isnt compressed
I keep the pcp charged up full to 190 bar to stop the cylinder seals relaxing, i havent had air leak out of it yet
Do you guys have any insight on DPMS Pather Arms full auto blow back SBR m4/ at replica made by Crosman. I’ve had two of them catastrophically fail on me. First one a bb got stuck in the barrel near the magazine. This last one it would malfunction after one shot and then click. I field stripped it. Parts were worn, my assembly normal wear and tear, but functioning. Then I fired it again and it failed after one shot and then for the life of me could not get the upper to separate from the lower. It was locked or frozen together. Luckily with a store credit and a great retail store they traded out a brand new 3rd. I have a feeling it has to do with maintenance, cleaning and oiling it. I cannot get a clear answer on what oil to use. Cros man authorized dealers say put oil on the bb that should do: other you tubers say to oil o rings and moving parts. Which obviously makes sense. But no clear answer on oil type, application areas, and frequency. I’ve babied each one of DPMS sbr’s I’ve owned. Now I’m apprehensive about even operating the BB gun because I think the store I purchased the gun from will not be so kind with a fourth weapon. Is this sbr DPMS just a lemon? Have you hear anything? Any insight from you guys on the channel or any commenters would be greatly appreciated. 👍
Yeah I hear you bro I’ve been trying to find the right products to use as well. I see all these products they use on UA-cam and I can never find the exact ones in the store. I’ve shot 3000 shots out of my R1 and it’s time to lubricate.There’s so many different things set on these videos and like you said it’s conflicting but it does make sense to lubricate the O-rings and everything else. The book for the rifle says to just put 2 drops of that RMcoil stuff On those spots.
What should I do to take care of the Springer piston?
RWS chamber lube for the piston seal. Spring Cylinder oil for the spring. Only 2 drops per 1,000 shots on the piston seal. 4-5 drops on the spring at the same interval should do it.
@@UmarexAir It much depend on how much power your gun makes. The 30fpe springer guns will ignite 2 drops to about 25% more energy, (crony'ed it), and can damage the piston seal. I know putting a bit too much in will damage my seal, (bey my 32fpe gun made 80fpe that shot). Ignition in the compression chamber is a lot different, (harder on the piston seal), than ignition of some fuel in a pellet skirt. So, what do you do for more powerful springer guns? Nothing. Scotch bright the bore and change the piston seal when it loses power after thousands of shots. Worst thing I did to my big max springer, was put combustible lube in the combustion chamber.
Great video ! Good video !Thanks Frank
EVERY co2 bb gun I've ever had, has broken because of LEAVING an old ( but still charged ) co2 in it.
An ends destroying all the seals, to where the next time I place a new co2 in it. All of the air leaks out of the sides of the bb gun.
An unless it's like some of these "newer airguns," where the co2 loads into the "magazine" that holds bb's. Which if ruined can be replaced, one that co2 seal is destroyed.
The entire airgun is no longer good.
What about fresh out of the box. Would they need to ebcleaned then. I just got my first air gun and from what I see, every one who owned the one I have are saying to clean the barrel when I get it.
depending on the quality of the gun...it never hurts to run a swab down it, but usually not necessary.
Manufacturers usually put a load of oily grease on the gun especially inside of the barrel to protect it in storage. They have no idea how long it will sit until its used. Clean your barrel on a new gun. It's worth it.
I have a Glock 19 the co2 was released early and I believe I might have blown out some rings need help please
Graphite is a lubricant, it can only help in your barrel. It will not interfere with the rifling it will not gunk up your rifle in any way.
The graphits on the pellets to stop them sticking together most of it will be blown out the barrel what's left will only help keep the barrel smooth and dry.
hello sir, i have Gamo Magnum IGT can i use Ballistol Silicone Spray for lubricating my piston seal? thank you
What oil is he talking about at 7:40 seconds for the barrel of the gun that he uses for everything? Thanks
I found it on amazon type in air venturi MP-5 oil
I got a break barrel benjamin. Was on a rack in my moms house for a couple years untouched. I came back and seen that it’s rusty. Hawaii has that salty air that kills every toy a man owns. What should I do.
I feel bad for the Gaylord guy because of his name
Wow..... simpleton
@John Lard hello
Imagine him reviewing the Brocock Commander PCP
There's a city in my state called Gaylord lol
@Always Correct Yup. Been there many a time on my motorsickle.
Why does the gas excape from the barrel of the gun, all excapes. Wat am I doing wrong???
Always clean your air riffle. clean gun... clean mind... and stops rust
How often should you put oil into the cylander.
almost never. grease it with a silicone grease . You can get sil-glyde at the hardware store
You will get dieseling. Not good.
How much air do i leave in when storing ?
Do you HAVE to put the oil or grease on the CO2 cartridge before I put it in?
A little oil is good to maintain inner parts.
@@americanairgunner someone has suggested i use a compressor oil for my c02 gun, putting a drop onto the c02 canister before inserting it into my magazine. Is that ok?
I recently replaced the mainspring in my crosman optimus 22cal 950 fps air-rifle, I`m curious how much preload is normal, the new spring gives me 2 to 21/2 inches of preload. Is that normal or should i be cutting down the spring
I think it's normal because it's a new spring. The preload will be less after time.
Mine says to clean beral every 500 -1000 shots and not put oil in the Beral
Pull through patches is what we use on most of the airguns we test. A little ballistol oil on the first patch and then dry patches until it is clean. Start the patch at the breech and pull through the barrel so as not to get any crud into the transfer port. Some airguns perform better dirty, so we suggest you shoot it and only clean when accuracy is affected.
OIL? on a pcp , how about silicon spray.
My nephew barrowed my very accurate Diana, it was stolen. He returned to me a BSF, and it will not fully cock, what do I need to do ????
Sounds like you need a new Diana. 🤷♂️
and the beat goes on about to clean or not to clean
I have a Benjamin Marauder PCP .22. I have never been able to clean its barrel. It's shooting bull's eye. I have shot 1,500 rounds through its barrel. Do I need to clean it?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it I say! If you start seeing deviations, then perhaps its time.
I would tend to agree. If it's still shooting accurately, I wouldn't worry about it. When things do start to change (and at some point they will) then it is time to clean. Just keep an eye on the round count so you know how often you need to clean in the future.
@@tylerpatner6591 thank you, Tyler, it's so nice to hear from you. I love your to-the-point reviews.
Also, please suggest if cleaning pellets are a good idea and if yes, then how to use them correctly.
Thank you.
@@reclusepilgrim Thanks! I appreciate the viewership. Cleaning pellets can be used effectively, but I prefer standard patches and a pull through (flexible rod) for cleaning. With your Marauder, get a drinking straw and stick it into the end of the shroud so you can feed your pull through, through the baffled section without it getting caught on anything. Or you can remove the shroud altogether by unscrewing it . I prefer the straw method for shrouded guns myself. The VFG cleaning kits are what I use if I have to use cleaning pellets, but outside of that, I use a flexible rod/pull through with patches.
@@tylerpatner6591 thank you, Tyler, you're a gentleman, indeed. I am grateful for your time and consideration.
Best,
Zill Niazi
Love these videos but rossi could honestly be a bit more quiet.
How do you have this discussion and not talk about the types of “oil” that is best for the seals or o rings of the rifles?
For co2 we use Pellgun, which is very similar to automatic transmission fluid. Spring guns MAC 1 special sauce with moly-paste on the piston.
@@americanairgunner Thanks but I just bought a Gamo Magnum. It is a ram air piston. So I heard and read not to use a petroleum based lube. Is that the Pellgun?
@@buckrockerm
Yes pelgun is a silicon based oil.
I’m looking for competition or league for pistol or rifle in the south central Pennsylvania or north central Maryland. Can anyone help me?
I'm in Pennsylvania too. That would be awesome
Is it okay to clean out the factory grease in the barrel when first getting your rifle?
Yes it is okay and encourage you to do so.
Yes my hatsan bullboss .25 ( 2 of them) shot way low when first bought. So I cleaned them and accuracy immediately improved. I also run a patch though every 500 to 1000 shots. And the reason is when I start noticing some variation in the shot I know it's time to clean.
Can WD 40 specialist silicone be used to lube my nitro piston break barrel air rifle
I wouldn't recommend it. The silicone dries and creates a hard film.
@@americanairgunner what do you use? I'm new with air rifles due to the unsure situation with firearms ammo
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my airgun blowback is not coming back alone, heavier than normal, it's lack of lubrication?
Hi, would like to know the difference between the 2100, 1000 legacy and the Remington 77x, TKY.
just watched this immediately after running some cleaning pellets through my air pistol. opps! too late!
Don’t clean it i ran a dry patch thru mine today and it lost power and accuracy. I shoot at wood targets usually pellets go thru board after i cleaned it pellets were stopping in wood surface
Interesting isn't it, yet some still want to debate. =D
Yall must be in DREAM Land..