So let me get this straight...we traded away a legit franchise quarterback in Baker for the three stooges (Watson, Winston, DTR)? And Haslam is "perplexed" by this season?? Bottom line, nothing changes until he sells the team. How do you back a GM that has put together this dumpster fire of a team? Fans need to stop going to games if they expect anything to ever change.
GREAT IDEA! GENIUS! Lets leave it in the hands of the almighty and knowledgeable Mr. Haslam who I'm suuuurrreee will make a GREAT replacement hire. Give me a break 😒
Just a wild guess, and this is before I'm watching this video. Do you "need to do better" and do you "need to do a better job" or do you "need to put the team in a better place to succeed" or do you "need to try harder"? Okay just wondering. Now I'll watch the video.
It's interest that the week we give Hopkins off the Browns never even manage to get in field goal range. Hopkins could have remained active and still had the week off.
What's truly remarkable reading through the comments is the fans calling for people to be fired and putting the blame on this player and that player and so few, if any, fans are calling out Ken Dorsey. Are we forgetting that he's responsible for the biggest problem on this team right now? The offense. And yet week after week the fans give him a pass for his incompetent results.
Players this GM has shit away . Mayfield, Hunt , Flacco , Cooper , Smith . All are battling for play off and good for them . This Andrew Berry has put this team in the tank for years . They have turned the team into a charity second chances organization. It sucks and I’m done with them . Will be watching to see them lose!!
Tough loss today but I'm sure coach Stefanski will rally the troops and have the guys ready to play and win next game. Just got a few loose ends to tie up.
@@gregorycampbell9386 “just a few loose ends”. Every aspect of the browns suck. “Stefanski will rally the troops”. The browns quit on stefanski weeks ago.
The silver lining is the Chiefs have a better chance at home field advantage against Stinkburgh, if they meet in the playoffs. I don't watch the Super Bowl when Stinkburgh is in, so someone has to knock them out.
Seriously ...... seriously ......... are you above the age of twelve? Any adult who posts on a football sports channel spelling the city of Pittsburgh as anything other than that, and certainly using JUVENILE spelling that MOST adults got past in seventh grade ....... it's troubling. Seriously, as an adult thinking about it, it's seriously troubling. Unreal.
@dyates6380 I'm so glad you are here to complain about the least important things in life. Good job. I'm sorry you were offended by something so meaningless.
How do you come to the conclusion that you should change OC's after a winning season, that more than anything else is the main reason this season is going where it is. Whoever made that decision should be fired, if its ownership, then this should be reason enough for them to sit back and let the pros make these types of decisions
DTR is NOT the answer. Let's repeat that...DTR is NOT the answer. Hopkins is NOT the answer, Stefanski and Berry are NOT the answers, The Haslam's are NOT the answer. Actually, the only "answers" for this team are to cut DW, JW, Stefanski, Berry and the so-called O-Line coach, (how do you line up offside or in the backfield or...?) tell the season ticket holders they're NOT gonna get a competitive football team until they drain Lake Erie. This team and franchise is years away from being competitive, and won't be until the Haslam's sell and move back to TN.
What disaster this coach and team this is, a true reflection of its leadership we are so overmatched when we go up against real organizations it’s embarrassing. Did you see the look of the Chiefs team they actually looked like they felt sorry for us ….smh
Kevin being real about the refs. I know that one on Afedi for not lining up right. That may have been a very bad call. If he was too far back it must have been by about an inch.
I’m thinking that the reporters in that room are afraid to ask or state, real and pointed questions. I think the reporters are some how, under the NFL shield. For me, the question must be about what took place as far as “play” on the field and from the players. You can do this without making it personal. The current Browns quarterback, is not a smart player. I’m talking as a football player. I’m just saying.
If he leaves it'll be because he quits and not fired. He's a two time coach of the year and I guarantee he has Berry micromanaging his job right now. He'll leave Cleveland and be successful somewhere else because he's not the problem right now.
Every decision that the owners, GM, and the HC make their decisions to improve their team personnel. Those decisions can make their seasons worth it or not.
The problem is The Damn Head Coach! And are The Haslams this damn stubborn! Enough is enough!!! He's not the right coach for this organization nor team! We need a strong, straight forward and confident person as Our Head Coach! Nick Sabin,Bill Cowher or the man that we already have as a part of our front office! Jimmy and Dee you can't keep doing this! Keep our offensive coordinator and Defensive coach!! And make Mike Vabrel our strong minded Head Coach, please!!!🙏 Or see if Nick Sabin wants to be here!🙏
Hard to believe that a professional football team has had this many pre snap penalties every week after 15 weeks. There’s no fixing this train wreck without a complete overhaul
What responsibilities does Ken Dorsey play in all of this? As the offensive coordinator shouldn't he take responsibility for the worst part of the Browns team right now?
A lot of people want to blame the coaching but it is the players, they just are not good. They knew Winston's problems yet they went for him. They knew Watson''s problems yet they went for him. They just don't know talent.
@larryambrose2660 well lets not even blame winston. You see jerome ford run for 62 yarder and then 8 yards and never use him again. Ford has been the best running back on the roster the whole year. You cant line up and throw on every down. Mahomes was almost picked 3 times in a row but nobody said anything. Qbs are qbs that throw against paid players. Thats why ken dorsey was fired by the bills and had josh allen in hot water for never running the football. Then he comes to the browns and does the same thing. Poorly run organization and hampered by salary cap caused by what. Another bad decision by the organization.
@@carter1431I don't agree with everything you said but more people should be outraged with Dorsey than there actual are. It seems Dorsey is always getting a pass from these fans.
@matthewzellers9777 You can try, LoL. What do you think he is doing? He was going up against the Chiefs with no run game....last few teams are sitting back waiting and they keep calling pass plays 🙄 SMH.
It's time for Stefanski to go. He's burned out and unable to fix the team that's loaded with problems. Many problems are disciplinary ones and that responsibility is Stefanksi's. I'm waiting for the other cleat to fall.
How much responsibility do you believe Dorsey plays in this? Dorsey is, after all, the offensive coordinator. He's responsible for the worst aspect of this team right now. Stefanski, also an offensive coach, got drastically better results from his offense last year when he ran it.
@@ScottCleve33 Team discipline, critical penalties, prep for each game, personnel decisions are all on Stefanski. Dorsey could be tried for aiding and abetting
And what will that change? The offense, run by Dorsey, is the biggest problem right now. If you fire Stefanski and promote Vrable but leave Dorsey at offensive coordinator then what have you fixed? You'll still have the same crappy offense. Notice all these stupid penalties are on the offense and not on the defense.
So let me get this straight...we traded away a legit franchise quarterback in Baker for the three stooges (Watson, Winston, DTR)? And Haslam is "perplexed" by this season?? Bottom line, nothing changes until he sells the team. How do you back a GM that has put together this dumpster fire of a team? Fans need to stop going to games if they expect anything to ever change.
It starts and ends with Jimmy Haslam.
Your coaches have absolutely no discipline in this organization you are never gonna go nowhere without it
You know Dan Campbell wouldn't allow any of this crap!
@@edwardgaines6561Campbell doesn’t have it all figured out either he’s a fool all the dumb risks he takes that causes his team to lose big games
YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!
AB IS FIRED!!!!!
DEPO IS FIRED!!!!!
EVERY SINGLE COACH IS FIRED!!!!!!!
GREAT IDEA! GENIUS! Lets leave it in the hands of the almighty and knowledgeable Mr. Haslam who I'm suuuurrreee will make a GREAT replacement hire. Give me a break 😒
Brown fans, your owner was stupid for firing John Dorsey .
@@wolfpack6650 Dorsey passed on Josh Allen and Lamar...
Freddie kitchens tho……
Thank you Einstein
So we got the wrong Dorsey?
Lol. Dirsey sucked
What happened to the great roster that were supposed to have
Poor Chubb. He is just snake bit. I hope he is going to be okay and back next year.
If not, I wouldn't mind Chubb reuniting with Baker in Tampa Bay for one final year.
He will be fine. Not a major injury at all
@@edwardgaines6561 what!? Dumbest thing I've heard in a LONG time
This guys team keeps losing but he hasn’t been fired lol?! I guess he gets a pass this season because of the Watson injury.
I can hear the questions today…..fantastic!
Yea Mary K we just need to play better and learn how to get a win . Sound familiar?
Don't forget :"we have to watch the tape and focus on next week's game 🙄
can't believe Ventrone still has a job.
I can't believe Ken Dorsey still has a job.
chubb 🙏
Just a wild guess, and this is before I'm watching this video. Do you "need to do better" and do you "need to do a better job" or do you "need to put the team in a better place to succeed" or do you "need to try harder"? Okay just wondering. Now I'll watch the video.
It's interest that the week we give Hopkins off the Browns never even manage to get in field goal range. Hopkins could have remained active and still had the week off.
Let Dorian start next games because he can scramble for some yards when necessary and that helps a lot.
Worst coached team in the NFL
I like how Kevin denied that question when that guy asked is James Winston still you’re starting quarterback that is funny
Former Browns fan, now Tampa Bay fan. Your owner was stupid for shitting on Baker Mayfield. 😅
Baker had 4 TDs today too!
@edwardgaines6561 And Baker is 7-1 in December games since joining the Bucs.
What's truly remarkable reading through the comments is the fans calling for people to be fired and putting the blame on this player and that player and so few, if any, fans are calling out Ken Dorsey. Are we forgetting that he's responsible for the biggest problem on this team right now? The offense. And yet week after week the fans give him a pass for his incompetent results.
Bro we have bailey zappe too get him a couple of Plays
Realwst conference from stefanski yet ! 👏👏
Finally we can stop the JW is the answer talk. You had way better in Flacco. Put in DTR and call it a season. DW will be back starting next year.
Exactly. Watson with protection can win. Just look at the cincy game
Flacco is the same thing as Winston. Both are careless with the ball and just flings the ball around hoping something good happens.
Tank for Travis
Don't do that young man like that
Jeanty
@@Fjigg Jeanty is the best player but I doubt a RB is going that high..
Got rid of all 3 QB and start some on a practice squad. It can’t really get worse.
Players this GM has shit away . Mayfield, Hunt , Flacco , Cooper , Smith . All are battling for play off and good for them . This Andrew Berry has put this team in the tank for years . They have turned the team into a charity second chances organization. It sucks and I’m done with them . Will be watching to see them lose!!
Coop sucks in buffalo.
Tough loss today but I'm sure coach Stefanski will rally the troops and have the guys ready to play and win next game. Just got a few loose ends to tie up.
Lol
@@stephenharris9802 hilarious comment😂
😂. Guys fought like crazy again today
@@stephenharris9802 what's so funny?
@@gregorycampbell9386 “just a few loose ends”. Every aspect of the browns suck. “Stefanski will rally the troops”. The browns quit on stefanski weeks ago.
When will browns fans wake up its not two or three people. No its the whole damn team. For real.
12 ,lol, he’s a good start about 1 person, he’s chasing Vinnies record?
Who’s the. Other 20? You included
Sad, better is turning into worse.
Sign Mike Vrablel GM
Most undisciplined team I've ever seen.
The silver lining is the Chiefs have a better chance at home field advantage against Stinkburgh, if they meet in the playoffs. I don't watch the Super Bowl when Stinkburgh is in, so someone has to knock them out.
Seriously ...... seriously ......... are you above the age of twelve? Any adult who posts on a football sports channel spelling the city of Pittsburgh as anything other than that, and certainly using JUVENILE spelling that MOST adults got past in seventh grade ....... it's troubling. Seriously, as an adult thinking about it, it's seriously troubling. Unreal.
@dyates6380 I'm so glad you are here to complain about the least important things in life. Good job. I'm sorry you were offended by something so meaningless.
How do you come to the conclusion that you should change OC's after a winning season, that more than anything else is the main reason this season is going where it is. Whoever made that decision should be fired, if its ownership, then this should be reason enough for them to sit back and let the pros make these types of decisions
This must be the season for giving, because the Browns were giving the ball away today.
This team cant win because of this coach. Fire him and promote Vrabel
Ok I'm here to remind everyone I'm the smartest man in the room......
DTR is NOT the answer. Let's repeat that...DTR is NOT the answer. Hopkins is NOT the answer, Stefanski and Berry are NOT the answers, The Haslam's are NOT the answer. Actually, the only "answers" for this team are to cut DW, JW, Stefanski, Berry and the so-called O-Line coach, (how do you line up offside or in the backfield or...?) tell the season ticket holders they're NOT gonna get a competitive football team until they drain Lake Erie. This team and franchise is years away from being competitive, and won't be until the Haslam's sell and move back to TN.
Kevin sounds beat up and frustrated
Yeah, his frustrations are starting to leak out visibly. Can't wait to see him snap!
I, personally, don't believe Stefanski is calling the shots. I belive if he was calling the shots then Dorsey would be gone.
Browns are legit SB contenders 😂😂😂 biggest joke of an organization in the NFL
No when the NFL is fighting you every week guys like you don't know shit
@robertpratt6792 🤣 yeah, sure buddy...
Damn….
What disaster this coach and team this is, a true reflection of its leadership we are so overmatched when we go up against real organizations it’s embarrassing. Did you see the look of the Chiefs team they actually looked like they felt sorry for us ….smh
Kevin being real about the refs. I know that one on Afedi for not lining up right. That may have been a very bad call. If he was too far back it must have been by about an inch.
Right, and giving up a awesome play to keep us in the game. Along with a Roughing the passer not called on DTR either, wth?
Yeah, that would have changed the outcome 😂
Can't believe we waited an entire to see this mess...so disappointing!
I’m thinking that the reporters in that room are afraid to ask or state, real and pointed questions. I think the reporters are some how, under the NFL shield. For me, the question must be about what took place as far as “play” on the field and from the players. You can do this without making it personal. The current Browns quarterback, is not a smart player. I’m talking as a football player. I’m just saying.
The clevreports are trash
Go get Sam Darnold at the end of the year
We seen enough of Winston and DTR. Let's see Zappe at least he has some wins under his belt beating both Pittsburgh and Denver last year.
Zappe is garbage
@bamsportscollectibles2185 So is Winston & DTR.
Browns fans doing what Browns fans do.
I gotta look at the tape...? Really?
Kevin sounds like he says screw this team...get me out of here!!!
It would be better for him, he will succeed with a team that knows how to pick players.
ikr
Clean house
This bum has to go.
Stefanski is great, imo not the problem.
@@index516
Kevin is the biggest main problem!!!
@@TimothyMichaelsno. Dorsey is the biggest problem. After all he's the offensive coordinator and the offense is incompetent right now.
I cannotbelieve Cleveland Browns have the highest payroll in the NFL
🏈🐶🐾
This your last season dude. Bye
its literally not
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Good coach
If he leaves it'll be because he quits and not fired. He's a two time coach of the year and I guarantee he has Berry micromanaging his job right now. He'll leave Cleveland and be successful somewhere else because he's not the problem right now.
Kevin when you make a decision please do the opposite
Every decision that the owners, GM, and the HC make their decisions to improve their team personnel. Those decisions can make their seasons worth it or not.
Dead Man Walking
When players don't buy into what your selling....
That stale single back offense not gonna work. Throw it out the window
The problem is The Damn Head Coach! And are The Haslams this damn stubborn! Enough is enough!!! He's not the right coach for this organization nor team! We need a strong, straight forward and confident person as Our Head Coach! Nick Sabin,Bill Cowher or the man that we already have as a part of our front office! Jimmy and Dee you can't keep doing this! Keep our offensive coordinator and Defensive coach!! And make Mike Vabrel our strong minded Head Coach, please!!!🙏 Or see if Nick Sabin wants to be here!🙏
Hard to believe that a professional football team has had this many pre snap penalties every week after 15 weeks. There’s no fixing this train wreck without a complete overhaul
Start with a new offensive coordinator
The reason your team gets a lot of penalties is because you can’t do your damn job!!!
Paid professionals need to DO THEIR JOB. It's bit the coach's responsibility to get their head out of their asses
How does he still have his job?
If they run it back with this clown show i wont be watching
You suck stefanski. You gonna can some of your coaches?
What responsibilities does Ken Dorsey play in all of this? As the offensive coordinator shouldn't he take responsibility for the worst part of the Browns team right now?
Horrible roster. Plain and simple
A lot of people want to blame the coaching but it is the players, they just are not good. They knew Winston's problems yet they went for him. They knew Watson''s problems yet they went for him. They just don't know talent.
@larryambrose2660 well lets not even blame winston. You see jerome ford run for 62 yarder and then 8 yards and never use him again. Ford has been the best running back on the roster the whole year. You cant line up and throw on every down. Mahomes was almost picked 3 times in a row but nobody said anything. Qbs are qbs that throw against paid players. Thats why ken dorsey was fired by the bills and had josh allen in hot water for never running the football. Then he comes to the browns and does the same thing. Poorly run organization and hampered by salary cap caused by what. Another bad decision by the organization.
@@larryambrose2660 Winston not the problem give him some help can’t do it by himsef
@@dontebradley7953throwing interceptions isn't the fault of the players around him. Winston is bad and is reckless with the ball.
@@carter1431I don't agree with everything you said but more people should be outraged with Dorsey than there actual are. It seems Dorsey is always getting a pass from these fans.
Jimmy Haslem, or Joe Biden, Cleveland?
It's time for Nick to retire. He's completely injury prone now and is not useful
Same ol same o with this bullshit coach no answers and looks like I don't care
Our backup quarterback has thrown more INTs than anyone else. Why even put him in to replace our starter when the backup sucks haha.
there is literally no one else
Maybe they can put you back there to do better.....
@johndoe-yy7my i can try haha
@matthewzellers9777
You can try, LoL. What do you think he is doing? He was going up against the Chiefs with no run game....last few teams are sitting back waiting and they keep calling pass plays 🙄 SMH.
Travis Hunter ……. NO
It's time for Stefanski to go. He's burned out and unable to fix the team that's loaded with problems. Many problems are disciplinary ones and that responsibility is Stefanksi's. I'm waiting for the other cleat to fall.
How much responsibility do you believe Dorsey plays in this? Dorsey is, after all, the offensive coordinator. He's responsible for the worst aspect of this team right now. Stefanski, also an offensive coach, got drastically better results from his offense last year when he ran it.
@@ScottCleve33 Team discipline, critical penalties, prep for each game, personnel decisions are all on Stefanski. Dorsey could be tried for aiding and abetting
@@BGee-no3uv but we don't see these mental mistakes on defense.
@@ScottCleve33 True. But that doesn't help the offense.
Stephanski stinks!!!! Hire Vrable!!!! He's already on the team!!! End of Story
And what will that change? The offense, run by Dorsey, is the biggest problem right now. If you fire Stefanski and promote Vrable but leave Dorsey at offensive coordinator then what have you fixed? You'll still have the same crappy offense. Notice all these stupid penalties are on the offense and not on the defense.
Play Zappe