Jacob Collier's practice tips with demos

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  • @contemporaryschoolofpiano
    @contemporaryschoolofpiano 4 роки тому +365

    So so so many golden nuggets here to studying music: "follow your goosebumps", "learn to just tread water in the chosen scale" it might be impossible to become a Jacob Collier, but that's not the point, it's possible to become a natural creative musician, with the mindset of one.

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +8

      Great comments Tom ❤️👍🎹

    • @artificialplanet1540
      @artificialplanet1540 4 роки тому +5

      "Follow the spark" is an advice he always mentions. I love it.

    • @christianhenry4173
      @christianhenry4173 4 роки тому +6

      Just be yourself Collier discovered his voice. Find yours. Every one can discover something new in music. John Coltrane's son Ravi has his own approach to music.

    • @JZE1
      @JZE1 3 роки тому +3

      Why become a Jacob Collier? He's already there.
      Do what you can do!

    • @sagnik.lahiri
      @sagnik.lahiri 3 роки тому

      so true!

  • @arthurreckelberg6578
    @arthurreckelberg6578 4 роки тому +84

    jacob collier needs to have a conversation with Victor wooten... they're talking the same thing!

    • @stevebradley2868
      @stevebradley2868 4 роки тому +5

      I was just thinking the same thing because I show my students Victor's TED talk to get them to understand it's much more like speaking a language than learning pedagogy.

    • @christinanelson2320
      @christinanelson2320 4 роки тому +1

      This would be an amazing collab/conversation!!

  • @SuddenUpdraft
    @SuddenUpdraft 2 роки тому +4

    He’s amazingly brilliant yet humble and unfailingly generous. He exudes joy, which is intrinsic to his being, and he leaves the world a better place.

  • @jasonruffjr3107
    @jasonruffjr3107 4 роки тому +8

    This Guy's knowledge of music is both inspirational and daunting. I hope one day I can catch up to him

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +2

      He sure is on another level!

  • @rachelkarengreen99
    @rachelkarengreen99 3 роки тому +2

    What a profoundly mature answer. Love this guy.

  • @gbovm
    @gbovm 4 роки тому +8

    Talking about the most important and fundamental things in life in a very simple and comprehensible words.

  • @kadeandkeys8861
    @kadeandkeys8861 4 роки тому +6

    Listen to the whole interview at the Topcast podcast. Really one of the best! So much gold!
    This episode is in my Top 5 best podcast interviews ever. And I listen to a lot of different podcasts.

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +1

      Wow Kade. Thanks so much!! Please do share and leave us a review on iTunes if you have time ❤️👍😎

    • @kadeandkeys8861
      @kadeandkeys8861 4 роки тому +1

      @@topmusicco Sure, will do :)

  • @vivekoswal
    @vivekoswal 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the beautiful gift Tim!

  • @eiichironagaya2179
    @eiichironagaya2179 4 роки тому +1

    Inspiring!

  • @victorsixtythree
    @victorsixtythree 4 роки тому +230

    So...short answer: "No, I don't need to practice."

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +15

      🤣🤣

    • @bloophero
      @bloophero 4 роки тому +37

      I can use Jacob's logic on my children. I'm not asking you to practice, I just want you to spend another 10 minutes doing fun problem solving!

    • @jmillanoff
      @jmillanoff 4 роки тому

      Yeah, and you don't also :)

    • @nasmboyd1573
      @nasmboyd1573 4 роки тому

      😂😂

    • @jmillanoff
      @jmillanoff 4 роки тому +1

      JUST PLAY, MAN. Imagine it's "Halo" or "GTA Vice City"

  • @missmagic227
    @missmagic227 4 роки тому

    Ah. This makes sense!

  • @intannout
    @intannout 3 роки тому

    not me reading it as Jacob Collier's practice tips with DEMONS

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  3 роки тому

      Hhaha someone else said that too!

  • @averyclarke7394
    @averyclarke7394 4 роки тому

    Musicians and the battle between the left and right brain

  • @erickmarzana6033
    @erickmarzana6033 3 роки тому

    What synthe is he using

  • @sigmundfreud5623
    @sigmundfreud5623 4 роки тому

    What kind of chords are at 0:40👀👀??

    • @kirjian
      @kirjian 4 роки тому +2

      Nutritious chords

  • @mariefarag3339
    @mariefarag3339 3 роки тому

    I read James Collier's Practice Tips with Demons

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  3 роки тому

      It can seem like he’s a little possessed! 🤣

    • @mariefarag3339
      @mariefarag3339 3 роки тому

      @@topmusicco Possessed by enough talent for 6 people

  • @gogoteca
    @gogoteca 3 роки тому

    Jazz chords are n u t r i t i o u s

  • @chuckfrost5624
    @chuckfrost5624 2 роки тому

    Playing is very different from real practice.practice more than play. Jacob has a different kind of mind than most, for the average person you should practice and stop trying to be a super star.Learn your instrument, this takes practice.

  • @famouscryp4130
    @famouscryp4130 4 роки тому +2

    Bruh the way he defines practice is wrong, practice is whatever you do behind the scenes, playing is when theres people watching. SIMPLE AS THAT

    • @caseylockwood5512
      @caseylockwood5512 4 роки тому +6

      You kinda missed the whole point. He said he agrees that there are aspects of each instrument that you need to sit and just master, but generally you don't need to practice in the conventional way, as in just sit and play scales over and over. He says he learned music first, and then he knew what he wanted to do, it was just a matter of making the instrument do it. So by learning to make the instrument do that thing he wanted, he was essentially practicing, but it didn't FEEL like practice because he was creating and making music, while technically practicing.

    • @famouscryp4130
      @famouscryp4130 4 роки тому

      @@caseylockwood5512 Dude you are overcomplicating it as well playing is practice

    • @caseylockwood5512
      @caseylockwood5512 4 роки тому

      @@famouscryp4130 So its impossible to "play" unless there are people watching? Yeah, don't agree.

  • @ksheavyhitter25
    @ksheavyhitter25 4 роки тому +261

    He said children were unqualified to learn language and now my mind is blown 🤯

    • @joshuasabate2057
      @joshuasabate2057 4 роки тому +10

      That line gave me goosebumps!

    • @APaclin
      @APaclin 4 роки тому +5

      Children are more qualified than adults at learning anything, their brain is more pliable, so it isn't true.

    • @elieonyt
      @elieonyt 4 роки тому +15

      @@APaclin how are they qualified when they don't understand the basics of a language. to be qualified at learning something you need to understand the concept and ACTIVELY learn it. kids learn language passively.

    • @yadadstrousers7678
      @yadadstrousers7678 4 роки тому +15

      @@APaclin
      You didn’t get the point buddy.

    • @hotman718
      @hotman718 3 роки тому +8

      He's saying you learn something just by doing it. That line is really inspiring.

  • @TheSIGHTREADINGProject
    @TheSIGHTREADINGProject 4 роки тому +56

    I love everything Jacob said here! It’s so refreshing!

  • @milesmossman
    @milesmossman 3 роки тому +18

    “You cadence to each degree of the scale of every scale note is a bass note”
    Is anyone able to explain this? I’m not sure I quite understand

    • @Samhoneyfield
      @Samhoneyfield 3 роки тому +13

      By altering chords so you have 5-1 for every degree of the scale e.g. In C: Amaj leads to Dmin, Bmaj to Emin, Cmaj to Fmaj, Dmaj to Gmaj, Emaj to Amin, Gmaj to Cmaj.
      You can go between each one of these chords so the bass moves chromatically to every note (besides Bb).
      Would recommend looking at the circle of fifths and playing a piano :)

    • @TwelfthRoot2
      @TwelfthRoot2 3 роки тому +4

      Also, you could take any scale and play a harmonic progression using each note of the scale as the bass to a chord. So for a major scale play:
      I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii0
      or play in a different order with those same chords (like a circle of fifths for chords):
      I -> IV -> vii0 -> iii -> vi -> ii -> V -> I
      The minor scale would be:
      i -> iv -> VII -> III -> VI -> ii0 -> V -> i
      This will give you the most important chords that relate to the scale. You are basically arming your musical brain with lots of tools that are relevant and work together. You could easily sit on each scale and play it for a few weeks before moving on to a different one. It's really great practice if you're serious about learning.

    • @tillum7593
      @tillum7593 2 роки тому +1

      @@Samhoneyfield why does cmaj and dmaj lead to other maj chords and not min?

  • @stevebradley2868
    @stevebradley2868 4 роки тому +29

    This is good stuff... I've always felt the same way about practice. I've learned so much more by just playing than by practicing. My mom used to teach piano out of our house and would yell at me "you're just playing, you're not practicing!" But I learned more that way. Especially when I got into jazz in high school.

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +2

      I think there’s a time and place for both but I totally understand what you mean 👍

  • @miguelangelriccione4950
    @miguelangelriccione4950 4 роки тому +23

    Children are utterly unqualified, but spend every second surrounded by proficient users of the language. Victor Wooten suggests that as musicians we should play with the best musicians we can early on, so we can best learn their language.

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +5

      I certainly learnt a lot more about musicality from playing with other people than playing alone.

  • @christina69962
    @christina69962 2 роки тому +12

    Basically, practice isn't practice as long as you're solving problems, creating, and just having fun with it. As a classical musician this is totally different from how I grew up learning. Mindblowing!

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  2 роки тому

      Thanks Christina - glad you enjoyed!

  • @geoffroymb
    @geoffroymb 4 роки тому +18

    I love how these are almost more compositional tips than practice tips

  • @ml-ei3nz
    @ml-ei3nz 4 роки тому +72

    This video shows exactly what is important in practice, regardless if music, sport, science or whatever. Passion creates a drive to check out , for countless amount of time, without any pain of “practicing”, cause it’s actually “playing”.

  • @LocalManMakesMusic
    @LocalManMakesMusic 4 роки тому +41

    Cool, so step 1: be a genius.
    Step 2: keep on going.
    Got it.

    • @natskii7026
      @natskii7026 3 роки тому +2

      Step 1 : Stay open and try various things to find what you love
      Step 2 : Do what you love

    • @matsab7930
      @matsab7930 10 місяців тому

      @@natskii7026 I love music. Wasn't born into a musical family, didn't receive the tutorship and guidance JC did as a child, didn't grow up in the same environment... No matter how much I love music, I will never achieve his level of competency.

  • @StefanHoffmann84
    @StefanHoffmann84 3 роки тому +4

    I have to somehow disagree. Also, the question itself was too unspecific. Surely, the answer was good. But what when asked if he ever practices ear training? Surely, I can only imagine him answering straightly no, because he has perfect pitch. And what was said is right, but also useless to a certain degree. To come back to his example with Logic. I guess NOBODY would ever come to the idea to learn how to use any program, at least not in the same way as motor skills or ear training is learned. You learn it by doing. And that is definitely a big chunk of learning in general, for any skill or domain of knowledge you want to aquire. But you somehow have to reach a certain level to approach things in this playful manner (and also in this "goal oriented" manner, as he was talking about "staying in keys" - you have to have some understanding to do that). Let us go back to the "how children" learn example. Imagine a child that stutters, or has other disabilities that hinder it. Then it has to overcome them in some way and most often this might involve dull repetitional, focused and boring practice. Only a person that never experienced such obstacles can give the advice he has given. His gifts make him prone, in his statements, to what is often called a form of "survival bias". Simply because he started out from a whole different level and cannot, and never has, experienced certain difficulties that others can only overcome by dull practice. However, I like his positive attitude. It is certainly motivating and he is using his talents, inspiring others or giving, straight and plainly, good music to the people. I am glad that he has chosen that path.

    • @MangroveLord
      @MangroveLord 2 роки тому

      I'm always glad to hear yet another point of view

  • @tonylancer7367
    @tonylancer7367 4 роки тому +13

    1:45 Someone, how do I as a keyboard player learn this technique of staying in the key? Is it just playing 10s (root and 3rd one octave above) in the scale?

    • @aris_chalin
      @aris_chalin 4 роки тому +8

      What he was kind of saying was to make each scale degree a 5-1 progression, ie G7-C, A7-Dmin, B7-Emin and so on and so forth through the scale, then apply that to all the other scales

    • @Wick3DSteely
      @Wick3DSteely 4 роки тому +1

      @@aris_chalin quick question, A7 and B7 are not diatonic to C major, but Dm and Em are. I understand that the V chord is a dom7 one, but if you're just going V-I you are not practicing the chords of the current key, no?
      What I mean is, what I thought you were going to say was G7-C, Am-Dm, Bm7b5-Em etc...
      why is that wrong?

    • @ashleyispresent
      @ashleyispresent 4 роки тому

      SHZF SHZF because in jazz V7 chords can come from anywhere inside or outside the scale

    • @dengris457
      @dengris457 4 роки тому

      @@Wick3DSteely The dominant chord, i.e. A7 and B7, is ALWAYS major

    • @Wick3DSteely
      @Wick3DSteely 4 роки тому

      @@dengris457 Got it!

  • @nikodemus7900
    @nikodemus7900 4 роки тому +13

    Can someone explain me what chords he is using at 1:10? The last one back to the C gives me some goosebumps and I would love to recreate that sound :)

    • @EpiCuber7
      @EpiCuber7 4 роки тому +1

      I think it's just
      C, C6/C#
      Dm, Dm6/D#
      Em, Emb6/E
      F, F6/F#
      G, G6/G#
      Am
      G (second inversion) / B
      C
      ?
      That might look complicated but hopefully yogu et the general gist

    • @nikodemus7900
      @nikodemus7900 4 роки тому +8

      @@EpiCuber7 I listened to it again and heard:
      C
      A/C#, dm
      B/D#, em
      D/F#, G
      E/G#, am
      G/H, C

    • @EpiCuber7
      @EpiCuber7 4 роки тому +21

      @@nikodemus7900 Ah yes, if anyone was going to play the note H it was definitely going to be Jacob xD

    • @nikodemus7900
      @nikodemus7900 4 роки тому +17

      @@EpiCuber7 Sorry man. I am German. Our H is your B xD

    • @EpiCuber7
      @EpiCuber7 4 роки тому +4

      @@nikodemus7900 Oh haha sorry for the mixup, that's cool though didn't know Germans use different notes!

  • @mathewstafford7943
    @mathewstafford7943 3 роки тому +2

    I don't really practice guitar in any formal way, but I can play acoustic guitar in the way folks like Andy Mckee, Antoine Dufour, Michael Hedges, Don Ross, ect can. I end up wanting to play a song of theirs and I "practice" the specific techniques and sounds needed to achieve that song, and along the way I end up better because of it.
    I think structured practice can definitely be helpful, but just playing and creating like Jacob suggests often ends you up with a good amount of skill on it's own.

  • @BrianKabalaMusic
    @BrianKabalaMusic 4 роки тому +5

    Lol loved this but he really didn't answer the question asked. I wonder if he practices drums and things like that to maintain skill.

    • @vicentealvarado5608
      @vicentealvarado5608 4 роки тому +1

      The answer is there, it depends on how you define “practice”. In dumber terms its a “yes”

    • @pttj9947
      @pttj9947 4 роки тому +2

      Answer is "yes, if I'm using it to make something"

    • @BrianKabalaMusic
      @BrianKabalaMusic 4 роки тому

      @@pttj9947 That's a good way to put it.

  • @smoothie2629
    @smoothie2629 4 роки тому +6

    Oh my god I read demons 😂

  • @seffbally9789
    @seffbally9789 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, that's got to be the longest piano I've ever seen behind him!

  • @jimharris6389
    @jimharris6389 4 роки тому +4

    In the cadence exercise starting at 1:00, doesn't he mean "back to C via G"? He says via B. Isn't he playing the fifth of each following chord as he ascends?

    • @alejofar
      @alejofar 4 роки тому +2

      I think he means using a B diminished as sub for G7.

    • @jimharris6389
      @jimharris6389 4 роки тому

      @@alejofar What's he actually playing then?

    • @Pacipejo
      @Pacipejo 4 роки тому +1

      You use any dominant chord you like. Here he uses B/G. B is drawn towards C, just like every bass he transitionned with from a chord to another was drawn towards the next fundamental (apart from the 2nd chord, but that's a detail). Is that clear enough or would you prefer a more developped elaboration ?

    • @jimharris6389
      @jimharris6389 4 роки тому +2

      @@Pacipejo thanks. I think understand the theory but what are the actual mechanics of the exercise? What's he actually playing? I like these kinds of exercises. I think they inform the ear enormously. I've been doing 251s and various turnarounds in all keys as part of my jazz studies. They're drills but I don't really find them boring as I can almost feel the neural pathways forming as I do it!

    • @Pacipejo
      @Pacipejo 4 роки тому +15

      @@jimharris6389 You understand it perfectly, it's actually simpler than a 251, it is a 51 on every note of a given scale, in order to be able to modulate in any tone from another. So, the exercise is to take your scale, here a major one, and resolve on every tone with a 51. Moreover, here, he doesn't play the 5 chord on its fundamental, which would produce a discontinued bassline (C A dm B em C F D G E am G C), but instead slides with a chromatism, using inversions on every 5 (C A/C# dm B/D# em C/E F D/F# G E/G# am G/B C). You can of course practice it with your 251 routine (C eb5 A dm f# B em gm C F...) or any sequence you find interesting to practice in your routine. The purpose is to give structure and flexibility to your understanding of a scale, seeing how the chords interact with eachother and learn how to guide the ear towards any given tone. Once, you've understood it, you can add as many extensions or arrangements as you wish on the given structure.

  • @nogoogleplus
    @nogoogleplus 4 роки тому +3

    1:09

  • @morgendorffer3504
    @morgendorffer3504 4 роки тому +2

    SOO NUTRITIOUS

  • @NMages20
    @NMages20 Рік тому +1

    The way he explains the difference between playing and practicing is brilliant. I have that problem too. I play a lot more than practice which in my opinion is a problem

  • @meekrodriguez6438
    @meekrodriguez6438 4 роки тому +2

    First

  • @enginerdy
    @enginerdy 3 роки тому +5

    This is totally how I learned and tell people how to learn tech stuff.. "How do I learn how to program?" "DO PROJECTS!"
    (When you self-motivate you work harder and learn faster. And when you fail you learn intensely!)

    • @fatimaWr2
      @fatimaWr2 2 роки тому

      Yes yes yes. And consciouly try to improving it every time you do.

  • @Trapphausmusic
    @Trapphausmusic 2 роки тому +1

    this dude is a genius

  • @MAJALIJU
    @MAJALIJU 3 роки тому +1

    Actually helpful thank you!

  • @GradyBaby13
    @GradyBaby13 4 роки тому +1

    You are an extremely good listener.

  • @kraka2oanIner
    @kraka2oanIner 4 роки тому +1

    Superb. Enjoyable...thanks.

  • @joshuaadams970
    @joshuaadams970 4 роки тому +5

    Someone needs to transcribe this

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +2

      We already have the episode transcribed at topmusic.co/episode200

    • @zakbarbezat
      @zakbarbezat 4 роки тому +9

      @@topmusicco they probably meant musical transcription

  • @kennethkenway411
    @kennethkenway411 4 роки тому +2

    can someone explain what he means by cadence to every chord

    • @pttj9947
      @pttj9947 4 роки тому +7

      He is talking about a perfect cadence which is a V-i or V-I movement (pronounced five one)
      So you should practice how to play
      G7 to Cmaj7, A7 to Dm, B7 to Em7...
      All while still voice leading, of course... Meaning don't lift up your entire arm to 5 notes higher, but only move the necessary notes.
      For example, G7 is GBDF while Cmaj7 is CEGB. To do a V-I cadence, you only need to know the B from G7 one key higher (which is C) and the F one key lower (which is E).
      You could move the D to C or E, but in jazz it's not considered out or wrong to play D note on top of C major. (Google the table of available tensions, you'll see that C major chords' main notes are CEG, but there are notes that work with it such as B, D and sometimes F#.

    • @clemtarpey1100
      @clemtarpey1100 4 роки тому +1

      @@pttj9947 Great reply, thank you!

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks TTj 👍👍

  • @Jordo91
    @Jordo91 3 роки тому +1

    This guy is amazing. Great musician

  • @yesac8839hung
    @yesac8839hung 3 роки тому +1

    I misread the title as “practice tips with DEMONS” and for some reason i did not find that to be surprising at all

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  3 роки тому

      HAHAHA It's almost like he's possessed, right?!

  • @beautifulmidnight571
    @beautifulmidnight571 3 роки тому +1

    oh my gosh he's posh

  • @kirjian
    @kirjian 2 роки тому

    Always found the statement "practice is boring" to be ridiculous. It's your own fault for not making it fun, heck, 80% of music making is spent practicing. Will you really doom yourself to think that way about 80% of your passion?

  • @bernardbrennan1612
    @bernardbrennan1612 4 роки тому +1

    Legend

  • @robertkispe8111
    @robertkispe8111 9 місяців тому

    01:45

  • @nasmboyd1573
    @nasmboyd1573 4 роки тому +1

    How am I now finding this channel??? OMG

  • @harveyg104
    @harveyg104 3 роки тому

    IF you explain every single nuance of your creativity, there can be no wonderment left over.Less talkin,more rockin.🤔😇🥸

  • @gwgwgwgw1854
    @gwgwgwgw1854 2 роки тому

    Start now!

  • @KeysUnlimited
    @KeysUnlimited 3 роки тому

    🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

  • @fatimaWr2
    @fatimaWr2 2 роки тому

    Everybody: Jacob is so talented look at what he does with Logic! Jacob: 14 years. 😲

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  2 роки тому

      Everytime I see him online I’m blown away. He was playing bass the other day and totally killing it!

  • @jordanfaykosh6341
    @jordanfaykosh6341 3 роки тому

    1:15 Why did he go CDEFG then to A minor when a minor isn’t in the c major scale?

    • @nicktomato7
      @nicktomato7 3 роки тому

      A minor is in the C major scale, it's made up of A, C, and E which are all notes in the scale.
      As he was playing, he said 'you go to D' but he was sort of speaking a little shorthand - he's actually playing a D minor there. Same when he says 'you go to E' , it's actually an E minor
      I think he's saying it that way to focus his description on the pattern of moving the bass, and assuming that tim understands which chords are appropriately major or minor based on the key.

  • @benjdoc
    @benjdoc 4 роки тому

    words so valueble. lol

  • @Nayansinghmusic
    @Nayansinghmusic 4 роки тому

    0:41 what are these cluster chords?

    • @hotman718
      @hotman718 3 роки тому

      Basically chords with a shit ton of extensions. 9/11/13

  • @juliebrammer
    @juliebrammer 4 роки тому

    Practice is play
    Play is practice

    • @topmusicco
      @topmusicco  4 роки тому

      Yup. Trying to look at practice as play is a great approach 👍 that’s why we ‘play’ instruments after all

  • @andreatonero8553
    @andreatonero8553 4 роки тому +5

    Classically trained pianist here just to say : amen, dude. Amen.

    • @TheEndorDragon
      @TheEndorDragon 4 роки тому

      Can you explain what he means by “cadence the key”?

    • @andreatonero8553
      @andreatonero8553 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@TheEndorDragon basically it's playing the dominant of the chord built on the scale degree. So in C major (C D E F G A B) : G7 goes to C, then A7 > D, B7 > E, C7 > F, for all the scale until you get back to C ("via B" which is a G on its third)

    • @jimharris6389
      @jimharris6389 4 роки тому

      @@andreatonero8553 But he's physically playing: C triad, A note, Dm triad, B note, Em triad, C note, F triad, D note, G triad, E note, Am triad, G note, C triad (mssing out the dim, aka 'the wonky chord' :o) ) an octave above. Is that correct? I'm a guitarist mainly so my ears aren't great for piano.

    • @andreatonero8553
      @andreatonero8553 4 роки тому +1

      @@jimharris6389 the bass goes up chromatically so it's A/C# aka A7 on its third > D, B/D# aka B7 on its third > E, etc. Didn't listen back, will confirm later :)

  • @drewkg14
    @drewkg14 4 роки тому +1

    Brilliant advice. In stark contrast to the drudgery that is being espoused by 99% of all music people.