now that you know what is real breakcore, you can define what you listen to by what style it is the closest in this case I guess you can say that you like atmospheric jungle
yeah, and that is why you like them. because they are simplified mainstream versions of notamainstream complex stuff for advanced and expierenced listeners 😁
@@ChocolateChipcookiie smack stuff, j8udge whether it was a good sound, record you smacking stuff that sounds good, try using the recordings of you smacking stuff in a way that's music-ish.
Yea? Literally none, eh? Cool. What exactly is it that makes you so certain of your absolutist call? Perhaps you meant "I dont care about what genre people attribute to my work". That would make sense. What you wrote is just incredibly assumptious and just not correct.
breakcore fans tend to be very gatekeepy and stingy about what’s considered ‘breakcore’ or not, but you properly explain the differences in “generations” of breakcore styles pretty clearly and it’s pretty helpful to noobs like me lol Edit: just clarifying I’m not mad btw, I just see people fighting over it in comment sections constantly
I wouldn't really call it gatekeeping. It's kinda like calling smooth jazz heavy metal just because you don't want to actually listen to heavy metal. Sewerslvt isn't breakcore, she has always been drum n bass, and always will be drum n bass lol. Breakcore kills the breaks, it's the basic principle that modern "breakcore" doesn't do
@fatass_chicken I mean it's not deep at all, drum and bass just isn't breakcore lol. Just like smooth jazz isn't heavy metal, even though both genres have a guitar drums and a singer
@fatass_chicken I mean honestly, it isn't really breakcore like he said, there's a difference in how the breakbeat is cut and switched up, I don't see granular synthesis, pitch changes, general cutting and remixing, or panning in the breakbeats in sewerslvts songs. the definition of what breakcore is, is intricate and complex breakbeats. This is done by doing what I said before. It's not gatekeeping if it isn't the genre. Some better modern breakcore I see is from artists such as sm3rki, spacey jester, blksmiith, downhill2k01, etc. It's not just the breakbeat, its how you use the breakbeat
Me and many others just enjoy the genre and how it uses breakbeats, it's a main stay of the genre. And having so many people mislabeling their songs clouds up the genre. Making it harder to find real breakcore. Of course breakcore will never die but its just that mislabeling your song can mislead others and also cloud up the genre.
Don't forget the pitch shift in the stutters. Also gabba/hardcore kicks never hurt a breakcore track. Also, you don't need pads for every track, that's the part that makes it sound like oldschool golden era jungle.
a fun thing to do to try to get fresher sounds is not starting from a drum break at all. just samples drums you like (extra points if you find them in the wild instead of a pack), midi it into a break, resample it and boom. new drum break with unique sound. cant promise it would always sound good but darn if the cw amens dont get repetitive everynow and then
Honestly it’s pretty easy to find folders just filled with unique drum breaks. I just pick one I like and throw it in the slicer and it sounds good and different
I absolutely agree that there are times you can REALLY tell when something is Jungle or DnB, but people are so nit-picky to the point that Breakcore could be put in the fiction section of the music library.
I didn't know break core existed. Sounds so good, also requires much more time to create something like this that very complex. Just the drums alone are very complex.
yuh make an amen break , slice it up open up whatever glitch plug in you use throw the sliced up amen in that , throw some distortion , pretend like it's the 90's and boom
The breaks in modern "breakcore" (not breakcore) are what keep them from being breakcore,this was a good example of some 90s breakcore chops, that being said, having auto stutters from shaperbox and gross beat usually tend to lead to lack of tasteful rhythmic patterns when trying to make breakcore
True! It's really a strech to call breakcore what i called "modern breakcore", it's more like ambient drum n bass. Here i tried to show the easiest way to make something "similar" from modern so called "breakcore" mixes. Will make another video talking about original 90s sound, have a lot to work on!
@@glueue yeah, 90s is a lot more idk simple lol, also if you do make a video on it, make sure you do a little research on techstep and darkstep bc they had somewhat of an impact on breakcore, production wise (eg. Fx processing, themes and atmospheres) unless you're only gonna do a video on how the breaks themselves are programmed, and not history, which I guess in the long run, it's better to just teach people how then bombard them with the history which will/might just confuse them more And pls look into guys like stuntrock too, bc his style of breakcore is pretty unique in a nonchalant sorta way
Easiest way I’ve found as a n00b producer is mostly using amen breaks, dirty or clean, also using higher tempos and racheting and rolls, and using weird timings and what I’ve found works, focus on drums first then build up the tracks with other elements is usually where I start but I’m not expert, I just experiment and find what works for me, also, use a tracker, makes chopping and slicing much easier once you get into it
I'd say the best and simplest way to make breakcore beats its using tracker based daws (i was using renoise and the polyend tracker mostly) you can do crazy midi mooves with it ;)
after watching this video, a really good example of these philosophies being used is in Yung Lain & Yem - Cloudy Saturday. it uses alot of discotrtion and pitch, while keeping the music parts simple enough. This allows the break itself to make completely different sounds from whatever original source was used, sounding like different samples entirely. Watching this video really helps to appreciate breakcore more than before by seeing the distortion process and the break to music ratio
I used to do that Shaperbox trick in SuperCollider using Nic Collins' BBCut library. Even though I barely knew SC I was able to create infinite variety of careening hits. IMO it's incredibly fun for live play - I didn't know of any other way live around 2000. But not ideal for finished tracks if you want them tighter. That's because buffer-based tools are cutting the beats exactly by time rather than event, and especially old vinyl breaks aren't going to line up neat like cutting them by hand. These days when I make beats with stuttering buffers is usually with Sector on my iPad, and I pre-prepare custom loops to feed it. If it chops into 16 then just treat that one file like a string of 16 samples of whatever. Like 12 hits from an old drum loop and four extra hits, noises, etc.
Anyone else here who doesnt really care and love both old and modern breakcore like aphex twin, venetian snares and doormouse + sewerslvt, machine girl and bye2
but the thing is "modern breakcore" is just flat out is atmospheric jungle with some distortion. love sewerslvt, love venetian snares, they make completely different kinds of music and saying they both make breakcore is flat-out wrong.
aphex twin is entirely different, doormouse and venetian snares are actual breakcore, the rest is in the trash where it belongs. Especially the sewerslyt man, he's a pedo.
IMO It's not that breakcore has a "new sound" that mimics dnb, there have always been harsher dnb artists who slice their breaks a bit more intensely and use a bit more distortion, and it seems much more reasonable to bunch the sewerslvt-wave artists on that side of things than in breakcore, considering they sound WAY more like dnb than what has traditionally been considered breakcore and what the vast majority of active breakcore artists make. Breakcore has changed stylistically over time, but it isn't towards ambience or a more dnb type sound, I'd say there are arguably more more intense, harsher and more technical breakcore artists currently active than ever before. I'd say the real direction which actual breakcore music has progressed (which involves genuine innovation and experimentation) is towards extremely sample heavy mashup music, mashcore specifically, and reizokore/hypermash more specifically. To anyone who has watched this video for break manip tips I would highly recommend against using timeshaper in shaperbox for your break slicing. While it is a cool tool, and can be used for some extremely interesting effects (I like to use it for tape-stops, record scratching, spin-downs, etc.) it really lacks the fine control and intuitive workflow that you want when you're doing break manip, unless you want to resample it or if you want to use it in conjunction with other generative or semi generative systems to create REALLY crazy shit, in which case it can sound pretty good. I'm very surprised that you didn't touch on pitch shifting snares or drum hits at all, it's super easy to do, and repitching drum hits in addition to stretching, warping, reversing, stuttering etc. really adds an additional level of polish, complexity, and auditory intrigue.
Best comment in this comment section, id say its evolving into flashcore but thats my niche take, i do not know the mashup genres u mentioned but i will check em out!
so to get somethings straight, breakcore has been a sub genre of jungle/hardcore '92-95, before it went from 140 to 175 bpm and evolved into that typical twostep beat pattern and became dnb around '96-97. its an offshoot of jungle, pre dnb! at.first it wasnt its own thing, and different things at rhe same.time. for some it was gabba and hard rave with breaks instead of 4/4 kick. for some it was jungle, droven to extreme mashup. breakcore lends its name more from uk hardcore, and happy hardcore, because they have breakbeats and 4/4 kick and piano rolls, that taken into the underground techier, harder side of jungle became breakcore. i was there. i produced very mashup based jungle around 94/95, when achieving complex breaks with an amen, was the epitome of the new avantgarde shit ! the later the night got, the more underground the rave, the more breakcore itl be. venetian snares, aphex twin, squarepusher, luke slater where more like the connosseur type elaborated versions of what you'd get dancing to under a bridge in strobe light and fog til.the cops come. breakcore: mashup the drums in creative time signatures, add reese bass, stabs, compress, distort,.there u go. cheers
- nobody really knows what breakcore is, and for some reason children feel like because they listen to sewerslvt or idk they feel entitled to say what they think it is. what i think solves the issue is looking at breakcore like it is more so a type of drum sampling, it makes sense because breakcore tracks are 90℅ drum focused
I’m trying to make breakcore under the name “Kaiser724” and im going to actually learn about it before I keep going to get ideas / understand the scene and community so thanks for making this video. I’d like to know the difference between breakcore jungle and dnb. Mainly bc I heard of these but didn’t know anything except the basic amen break samples. I was going to release a demo called “jungle1” but I have realized it might not be jungle, still might name it that. Some really cool stuff can be done w ableton using arpegiators and the simpler/sampler, especially w grouping into instruments. I made a recording using only two tracks that I did live bc of ableton capabilities (and that is w ableton live so completely free, using free samples and free plugins). I’m telling you if you’re reading this and want to make breakcore you can do it completely free of charge at least at the start, it doesn’t have to be a huge investment monetary wise, just have fun!
It also doesn’t really have to be the best thing ever. I have a track called “sampled strings” where I just sampled a different demo I made (used SpitFire audios strings) and made the chords using that sample. I am literally dragging the mouse back and forth to get the chord progressions while I’m trying to modulate the drums and all the effects. It sounds not the best but good enough to be cool in my opinion. Ofc there’s better ways of doing it but it is very cool to figure out how to do things live bc it feels more like playing instruments and less like producing (which are both great musical skills but rather different)
fl studio slicer and create the entire drum track in the piano roll. no seriously this is pretty much the most streamlined way in the world that nobody ever really does
Ive been into breakcore for about 2 years now, its helped me find more genres.. still dont know why people are so whiny about genres and artist.. i just listen to a song and dont really care if its "fake breakcore".
my fav breakcore uses the goodold hardtek gabba kickbass. Check out Audiotist has a tru mastering over his breakcore sound, 'too high' 'problemes' and 'that lemon tree remix' are some of my fav
i generally just used breakcore as a catch all term for a bunch of micro genres in this chaotic space, from mashcore, Raggcore, digital hardcore, microcore, chipbreak, splattercore, spazzcore and a bunch of other terms I heard used.
10 years of using ableton AND I JUST NOW DISCOVER THAT U CAN STRETCH FUCKING AUDIO CLIPS WITH SHIFT+LEFT MOUSE AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
can anyone more familiar with the genre of breakcore recommend me any stuff where they utilize guitar? a 1:03 he mentions artists using guitar riffs, but I find them to be few and far between
'breakcore' is one problem, but what i hate even more is people just straight up calling everything with amen breaks/fast drums breakcore. And the other way round when they call breakcore jungle or d&b is pretty fucking infuriating.
I don't really make breakcore but if I use drum breaks I like to generate them with the software drummers in Garageband for IOS, then drag the result into whichever DAW or sampler I'm using
You need a retro sampler, you can not replicate an old sampler with bitcrush alone. Software wise TAL Sampler is the current (Dec 2023) best softeware option. Aternatively you can buy a lofi hardware sampler (many options here, from vintage rackmounts to modern eurorack to new hipster desktop units), the prices are not to bad (as low as 150 for a Boss/Roland SP, I just saw an Akai S100 for 300 and even 800 for some tastey isn't really that bad) considering lots of music software is hundreds even thousands of dollars in price (and other instruments such as guitar your look over 2k for a Gibson Les Paul standard), some hardware samplers integrate just fine with your DAW (my Akai S950 takes midi from a DAW and is integrated like a real life vst almost)- so a split hardware/software setup is fine and not to be dismissed but at the very least you want the TAL sampler VST. If not it will sound "fake" to those in the know, also the process will illegitimate too (again to those in the know / breakbeat corksiffers, but they do have a point). The time stretch algoryhm in this video is 100% illegitimate (along with many other things), again use TAL (or the more tedious route Akaiser, some DAC software, a bitcrusher and other stuff and it still won't sound rite) or a just use a hardware sampler. Also, this is a(nother, sorry to say) huge issue - DAW wise (the daw having dodgy options that seemed good was the root of all the issues with this video which will misinform thousands), Ableton isn't the best option because it's sampler isn't up to task and notice he only used arrange view (Ableton boots into session view and half the interface and development goes into the session view), ofcourse it's possible with Ableton but it by nature has a lot of options that will lead you down the wrong path. Idealy you want Cubase, something close or one of it's many clones / offshoots, Studio One, REAPER, at a stretch Logic (trackers are also an option) and so on. This is because Cubase was the weapon of choice for home recording hardware in the hay days, it by nature has the workflow used because it was the software used and at it's core it hasn't changed much (you could even use an old version of Cubase or Notator just fine with a hardware sampler). You don't need much to do this, the synths mentions here are unessesary, a "real" sampler (including TAL) will add harmonics to any 1 note sample and distort all notes above and below root (with hardware you can also clip the sample on the way in for extra distortion), you then just play the sampler like a synth and finese the synth like option on the sampler / use the sampler as your synth. Effects (hardware or software) comp, limiter, reverb (Vallhala VintageVerb or something along these lines if your going software effects), basic EQ, delay if you want to be fancy but you can just chop paste and lower volume instead. That's it, forget the 900 vsts effects bundles and 300 dollar glitch effects plugins, not necesary and imho don't sound as good. I could make Breakcore on an old potato PC i got free or for 70 dollrs max, formatted to XP or below, with ancient Cubase and a hardware rack sampler from a charity shop, you get a workout carrying the sampler home, you gave money to charity and you'll be happy making making atompheric jungle which everyone calls breakbeat and playing XP Doom (a breakbeat CD is max $4, i got the ultimate breaks volume with Amen on vinyl for $7, or the free download maniplulated with a real sampler is cool too via line in or via cd or floppy you burnt yourself because potato PCs do that all day, or mod your sampler to take a usb and swop files from your alienware laptop with the skillex sticker or watever, the world is your Oister), just don't pay 189usd for Serum and in total probably over 5k for all the junk mentioned in this video ,189usd alone can get you an Akai S2000/3000, a potato PC (all ancient software is free), and still leave you change for beer, then just sample notes or random noises from literally anywhere including but not limited the radio, choir accapella records or anything for $2 from charity shops, sample cds even downloded ones, akai sample packs, sounds from weird old films like fantasic planet, acoustic guitars, you yodeling, some random 32bit vst - these work on xp, propellerheads ReBirth or whatever. World = your Oister + beer. You'll of spent less and you'll be more legit, everything you create will be gold, the vsts kids will speand thousands chasing your authentic (cost less than a days wage) sound, which they'll never get while locked into a vicious cycle of subscription services depression, as you win on XP + Doom. :)
@@gammacxy getting used to? sure. hard to learn? not quite. from what i've seen, the workflow on them is pretty straight-foward, more straight-foward than your average DAW i'd argue, due to being able to edit the notes on the fly and not having to enter any menus to do so. getting used to the tracker workflow may not be for everyone tho.
@@gammacxy The typical Tracker is not harder to learn than FL Studio, or any modern DAW really. Now getting used to it, that's another thing entirely and depends on how much time you spent using a conventional DAW.
I started making electronic music with a tracker before moving to a linear DAW. I actually don't miss trackers at all, being able to see the waveform that way was amazing and sped things up for me. I've gone full circle back to using hardware, but still play with Live. I can't see myself going back to protracker or something like it. Just a different perspective.
Just a fact (I'm on my mom's phone) there are different types and genres of breakcore because Rory in early 20s is more hardcore and Tokyo pull is old school
Breakcore is a lot like punk and about freedom of expression in electronic music. I think a lot of old heads get mad about the genre because its started to generate a bubble of sorts where the sounds from different artists become all too similar. In some senses there is no true way to make it but several ways to emulate pre existing forms. This construct fucks old heads up as it removes the freedom aspect. Over the years various forms have emerged since the early 1990's between terms Drill and Bass, Breakcore, Flashcore, etc. Its all rather mental at the end of the day and none of this matters as long as the artist is truly authentic within the music they choose to create. If you are new to the genre check out the Mutant Sniper Comp from 2004 Invasion From XXX Dimension.
Breakcore* blew up recently among US zoomers via Tik-Tok, and it seems like it mainly caught on not with people who were already listening to other forms of electronic music, but rather with a lot of people who were previously into stuff like Hip-Hop, Phonk, Lo-Fi, Shoegaze, Rock/Metal, etc. In other words, a lot of the newer producers are coming to Breakcore with no reference point for what was previously considered normal in the genre, and are only getting exposed to short songs via Tik-Tok. I've also noticed that modern Hip-Hop producers (or at least the more amateur ones) tend to make songs that are only in the 1-3 minute range, which would explain the short runtimes from anyone coming from that community. *It's worth pointing out that a lot of what these people think is Breakcore is actually Jungle or DnB. but since a lot of these people are from the US, they've often had no exposure to anything like DnB, Jungle or Breakcore before this point. As a result, a lot of them have learned one of a few different misconceptions about what Breakcore is, which can include: 1. Breakcore & DnB are the same thing. 2. Breakcore is a subgenre of DnB that features sample breaks & ambient soundscapes (i.e. Atmospheric Jungle or Liquid DnB, but calling it Breakcore). 3. Breakcore is anything with a breakbeat (i.e. anything from Jungle & DnB to downtempo breakbeat type stuff is all "Breakcore"). 4. Breakcore is a genre of aesthetics (like cottage-core) that isn't exclusively musical in nature, with the visual side basically just being glitch art that heavily features anime girls. Glitchbreak is a genre that’s been used to separate true breakcore from the clones. For example a lot of people have started to associate the likes of sewerslvt with the term glitchbreak as it differs both from jungle and breakcore so to help with the recent genre confusion fans have began to call that newer style of music glitchbreak. At least that’s my understanding of the genre. It categorises music that is too heavy to be necessarily jungle, but yet too soft too be breakcore ~ an unknown redditor
Рік тому+1
As a total layman, the only two genres I care about is "I can dig it" and "nah, I'll pass". ;)
To be honest, I dislike most of the break cores that were popular from 2021 to 2023. Don't get me wrong, breakcore, which samples audio from anime and other sources, is unique and fun, but it's become completely saturated because so many people are creating it the same way. EDM also declined for similar reasons. To begin with, I dislike songs that lack creativity, not just breakcore.
![HOW TO (not) BREAKCORE 101 [genre shenanigans]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HtNQ0Qyb3UQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Man all the music genres I like are the ones that people say "thats not real breakcore/emo/mathrock/etc"
there is absolutely nothing wrong with liking jungle and dnb
now that you know what is real breakcore, you can define what you listen to by what style it is the closest
in this case I guess you can say that you like atmospheric jungle
@@toolemonyyor you can just not act retarded and just not actually care about genre labels
yeah, and that is why you like them. because they are simplified mainstream versions of notamainstream complex stuff for advanced and expierenced listeners 😁
@gurinolegg ?
Musician's tip: How to make experimental music - Experiment.
technically that's it lol
but... HOW DO YOU EXPERIEMENT??? WHAT DO YOU EXPERIENNT WITH?????
@@ChocolateChipcookiie with knobs.
@@ChocolateChipcookiie smack stuff, j8udge whether it was a good sound, record you smacking stuff that sounds good, try using the recordings of you smacking stuff in a way that's music-ish.
The fans care about genre so much but literally none of the artists making the music give a shit about what genre people attribute to their work.
Yeah... the "modern breakcore" artists maybe, but then they could stop calling this ambient jungle / idm bullshit breakcore, or?
yeah, we wanna be able to find the real genre, not a made up one.
Yea? Literally none, eh? Cool. What exactly is it that makes you so certain of your absolutist call?
Perhaps you meant "I dont care about what genre people attribute to my work". That would make sense.
What you wrote is just incredibly assumptious and just not correct.
@@JiminyCricketsIt's a HYPERBOLE, not a literal statement 😂 calm down "troo breakcore fan"
breakcore fans tend to be very gatekeepy and stingy about what’s considered ‘breakcore’ or not, but you properly explain the differences in “generations” of breakcore styles pretty clearly and it’s pretty helpful to noobs like me lol
Edit: just clarifying I’m not mad btw, I just see people fighting over it in comment sections constantly
I wouldn't really call it gatekeeping. It's kinda like calling smooth jazz heavy metal just because you don't want to actually listen to heavy metal. Sewerslvt isn't breakcore, she has always been drum n bass, and always will be drum n bass lol. Breakcore kills the breaks, it's the basic principle that modern "breakcore" doesn't do
@fatass_chicken I mean it's not deep at all, drum and bass just isn't breakcore lol. Just like smooth jazz isn't heavy metal, even though both genres have a guitar drums and a singer
@fatass_chicken I mean honestly, it isn't really breakcore like he said, there's a difference in how the breakbeat is cut and switched up, I don't see granular synthesis, pitch changes, general cutting and remixing, or panning in the breakbeats in sewerslvts songs. the definition of what breakcore is, is intricate and complex breakbeats. This is done by doing what I said before. It's not gatekeeping if it isn't the genre. Some better modern breakcore I see is from artists such as sm3rki, spacey jester, blksmiith, downhill2k01, etc. It's not just the breakbeat, its how you use the breakbeat
Me and many others just enjoy the genre and how it uses breakbeats, it's a main stay of the genre. And having so many people mislabeling their songs clouds up the genre. Making it harder to find real breakcore. Of course breakcore will never die but its just that mislabeling your song can mislead others and also cloud up the genre.
@@dorkish This‼️‼️‼️
Don't forget the pitch shift in the stutters. Also gabba/hardcore kicks never hurt a breakcore track. Also, you don't need pads for every track, that's the part that makes it sound like oldschool golden era jungle.
Gabber kicks rule
a fun thing to do to try to get fresher sounds is not starting from a drum break at all. just samples drums you like (extra points if you find them in the wild instead of a pack), midi it into a break, resample it and boom. new drum break with unique sound. cant promise it would always sound good but darn if the cw amens dont get repetitive everynow and then
Yep - or even just copied and pasted hits within a 2-track audio editor like Audacity
"Find them in the wild" haha I like this
Does midi it into a break mean you have to use Ableton? Can this be done on FL Studio?
Honestly it’s pretty easy to find folders just filled with unique drum breaks. I just pick one I like and throw it in the slicer and it sounds good and different
I absolutely agree that there are times you can REALLY tell when something is Jungle or DnB, but people are so nit-picky to the point that Breakcore could be put in the fiction section of the music library.
i was alive listening to when dnb was huge in the 90's breakcore is just hardcore dnb jungle tecnically
i love this comparison
as a fan i just have to say "many ppl think too much". if its good just listen to it. it doesn't matter if it core softcore hardcore b;ab;ab;a
I didn't know break core existed. Sounds so good, also requires much more time to create something like this that very complex. Just the drums alone are very complex.
Doesn't take much time to fill a bar with random stutters like this video did but it won't sound good either.
yo it's annoying lol
and takes a lot of math , math sucks mane
yuh make an amen break , slice it up open up whatever glitch plug in you use throw the sliced up amen in that , throw some distortion , pretend like it's the 90's and boom
I love how you took feedbacks, dive deeper into the topic, and made a cool video about it
The breaks in modern "breakcore" (not breakcore) are what keep them from being breakcore,this was a good example of some 90s breakcore chops, that being said, having auto stutters from shaperbox and gross beat usually tend to lead to lack of tasteful rhythmic patterns when trying to make breakcore
True! It's really a strech to call breakcore what i called "modern breakcore", it's more like ambient drum n bass. Here i tried to show the easiest way to make something "similar" from modern so called "breakcore" mixes. Will make another video talking about original 90s sound, have a lot to work on!
@@glueue yeah, 90s is a lot more idk simple lol, also if you do make a video on it, make sure you do a little research on techstep and darkstep bc they had somewhat of an impact on breakcore, production wise (eg. Fx processing, themes and atmospheres) unless you're only gonna do a video on how the breaks themselves are programmed, and not history, which I guess in the long run, it's better to just teach people how then bombard them with the history which will/might just confuse them more
And pls look into guys like stuntrock too, bc his style of breakcore is pretty unique in a nonchalant sorta way
In other words, "breakcore needs to be unpredictable for its autistic pattern recognizing target audience"
@@kontact2kill it's not as unpredictable as u think, I think anybody that has a sense of rhythm could pick up on it easily
there is still modern breakcore artists who make real breakcore...
i didn't even know this modern breakcore exists, fan of the oldies, but from what i have heard here it is like pop punk compared to power violence.
6:23
You should post a full version of the track this is so awesome 🥲
2:21 Ibai Llanos is everywhere 😎
Nice video!
im so happy that someone is finally making stuff about actual breakcore, i love this stuff man
This was amazing and easy to follow, thank you!!
Easiest way I’ve found as a n00b producer is mostly using amen breaks, dirty or clean, also using higher tempos and racheting and rolls, and using weird timings and what I’ve found works, focus on drums first then build up the tracks with other elements is usually where I start but I’m not expert, I just experiment and find what works for me, also, use a tracker, makes chopping and slicing much easier once you get into it
Watching this at 3 am like I’m gonna understand everything you said even if I never launched fl studio
6:20 Rory in early 20’s ah 💀 (I wanna learn how to do that)
same on mobile
@ I’m doing one on mobile lmao
I'd say the best and simplest way to make breakcore beats its using tracker based daws (i was using renoise and the polyend tracker mostly) you can do crazy midi mooves with it ;)
exacly
real ones know that the cirklon is the king of breaks
vache
@@satin360Barely anyone uses Cirklon. Renoise is freely available, the king of breakcore uses it to sequence his modular.
trackers rool!
loved when he added nyango star
after watching this video, a really good example of these philosophies being used is in Yung Lain & Yem - Cloudy Saturday. it uses alot of discotrtion and pitch, while keeping the music parts simple enough. This allows the break itself to make completely different sounds from whatever original source was used, sounding like different samples entirely. Watching this video really helps to appreciate breakcore more than before by seeing the distortion process and the break to music ratio
yem the goat
I used to do that Shaperbox trick in SuperCollider using Nic Collins' BBCut library. Even though I barely knew SC I was able to create infinite variety of careening hits. IMO it's incredibly fun for live play - I didn't know of any other way live around 2000. But not ideal for finished tracks if you want them tighter. That's because buffer-based tools are cutting the beats exactly by time rather than event, and especially old vinyl breaks aren't going to line up neat like cutting them by hand. These days when I make beats with stuttering buffers is usually with Sector on my iPad, and I pre-prepare custom loops to feed it. If it chops into 16 then just treat that one file like a string of 16 samples of whatever. Like 12 hits from an old drum loop and four extra hits, noises, etc.
There was a patch for MaxMSP on os9 called ModSquad which did the same thing :)
**Shows 3 categories of breakcore**
"Man, I love From Zero and Nostril! Finally someone will talk about those!"
**Skips the whole category**
:(
I’m glad to look at this man due to his breakcore tips, very helpful 😄
Какой приятный тутор, спасибо, с меня подписка явно.
Твое видео подтолкнуло меня,
надеюсь, после армии смогу попробовать вновь , спасибо~
i like your content its unique
I agree I’m just now seeing it
*i like your comment its unique*
*well, now it's not ;/*
Anyone else here who doesnt really care and love both old and modern breakcore like aphex twin, venetian snares and doormouse + sewerslvt, machine girl and bye2
I like both old and modern.
but the thing is "modern breakcore" is just flat out is atmospheric jungle with some distortion. love sewerslvt, love venetian snares, they make completely different kinds of music and saying they both make breakcore is flat-out wrong.
aphex twin is entirely different, doormouse and venetian snares are actual breakcore, the rest is in the trash where it belongs. Especially the sewerslyt man, he's a pedo.
how many genres are there nowadays bro. like i be vibing to that glitchpop synthcore basswave
The terminally online urge to categorise and pick apart the funny drum music
goated thumbnail
I'd love to see a video about production techniques used in the igorrr albums. Nostril is genuinely a masterpiece for those who haven't heard it
thanks for bringing Vnares, not other bullshit that been called "breakcore"
Another great video for me to fold my laundry to. Thank you!
IMO It's not that breakcore has a "new sound" that mimics dnb, there have always been harsher dnb artists who slice their breaks a bit more intensely and use a bit more distortion, and it seems much more reasonable to bunch the sewerslvt-wave artists on that side of things than in breakcore, considering they sound WAY more like dnb than what has traditionally been considered breakcore and what the vast majority of active breakcore artists make. Breakcore has changed stylistically over time, but it isn't towards ambience or a more dnb type sound, I'd say there are arguably more more intense, harsher and more technical breakcore artists currently active than ever before. I'd say the real direction which actual breakcore music has progressed (which involves genuine innovation and experimentation) is towards extremely sample heavy mashup music, mashcore specifically, and reizokore/hypermash more specifically.
To anyone who has watched this video for break manip tips I would highly recommend against using timeshaper in shaperbox for your break slicing. While it is a cool tool, and can be used for some extremely interesting effects (I like to use it for tape-stops, record scratching, spin-downs, etc.) it really lacks the fine control and intuitive workflow that you want when you're doing break manip, unless you want to resample it or if you want to use it in conjunction with other generative or semi generative systems to create REALLY crazy shit, in which case it can sound pretty good.
I'm very surprised that you didn't touch on pitch shifting snares or drum hits at all, it's super easy to do, and repitching drum hits in addition to stretching, warping, reversing, stuttering etc. really adds an additional level of polish, complexity, and auditory intrigue.
Best comment in this comment section, id say its evolving into flashcore but thats my niche take, i do not know the mashup genres u mentioned but i will check em out!
This is such a well done video man. Thank you!
just discovered your channel :) good stuff, i'll stay!
so to get somethings straight, breakcore has been a sub genre of jungle/hardcore '92-95, before it went from 140 to 175 bpm and evolved into that typical twostep beat pattern and became dnb around '96-97. its an offshoot of jungle, pre dnb! at.first it wasnt its own thing, and different things at rhe same.time. for some it was gabba and hard rave with breaks instead of 4/4 kick. for some it was jungle, droven to extreme mashup. breakcore lends its name more from uk hardcore, and happy hardcore, because they have breakbeats and 4/4 kick and piano rolls, that taken into the underground techier, harder side of jungle became breakcore. i was there. i produced very mashup based jungle around 94/95, when achieving complex breaks with an amen, was the epitome of the new avantgarde shit !
the later the night got, the more underground the rave, the more breakcore itl be. venetian snares, aphex twin, squarepusher, luke slater where more like the connosseur type elaborated versions of what you'd get dancing to under a bridge in strobe light and fog til.the cops come. breakcore: mashup the drums in creative time signatures, add reese bass, stabs, compress, distort,.there u go. cheers
I really like the way you break (pun intended) everything down about breakcore and "breakcore".
- nobody really knows what breakcore is, and for some reason children feel like because they listen to sewerslvt or idk they feel entitled to say what they think it is. what i think solves the issue is looking at breakcore like it is more so a type of drum sampling, it makes sense because breakcore tracks are 90℅ drum focused
the way you speak and your accent give me a sense of false déjà vu
I’m trying to make breakcore under the name “Kaiser724” and im going to actually learn about it before I keep going to get ideas / understand the scene and community so thanks for making this video. I’d like to know the difference between breakcore jungle and dnb. Mainly bc I heard of these but didn’t know anything except the basic amen break samples. I was going to release a demo called “jungle1” but I have realized it might not be jungle, still might name it that. Some really cool stuff can be done w ableton using arpegiators and the simpler/sampler, especially w grouping into instruments. I made a recording using only two tracks that I did live bc of ableton capabilities (and that is w ableton live so completely free, using free samples and free plugins). I’m telling you if you’re reading this and want to make breakcore you can do it completely free of charge at least at the start, it doesn’t have to be a huge investment monetary wise, just have fun!
It also doesn’t really have to be the best thing ever. I have a track called “sampled strings” where I just sampled a different demo I made (used SpitFire audios strings) and made the chords using that sample. I am literally dragging the mouse back and forth to get the chord progressions while I’m trying to modulate the drums and all the effects. It sounds not the best but good enough to be cool in my opinion. Ofc there’s better ways of doing it but it is very cool to figure out how to do things live bc it feels more like playing instruments and less like producing (which are both great musical skills but rather different)
I like ur songs dude! Keep going!
Just listen to a lot of Alec Empire, Enduser, and Venetian Snares, that has helped me a lot understanding the style
I'm still exploring your topic channel. So far your 2023 cut songs are really creative!!!! I like it!!
"modern" there is still modern breakcore artists who make real breakcore but they are underground artists who dont get much attention
true
They most definitely make breakcore that's a lot more refreshing than the stuff that's been getting popular in the last few years
Awesome tutorial dude, subscribed!
Cool round up of ideas
this is a really great and easy to understand tutorial:) thanks so much
fl studio slicer and create the entire drum track in the piano roll.
no seriously this is pretty much the most streamlined way in the world that nobody ever really does
Great content, thanks!
Ive been into breakcore for about 2 years now, its helped me find more genres.. still dont know why people are so whiny about genres and artist.. i just listen to a song and dont really care if its "fake breakcore".
all them kids listening to tinnitus simulations like "now this is real breakcore"
my ears ring naturally thanks
Can i get a tutorial on apps used or to use while making breakcore please? ( like i want to start out and i dont know even the most basic music app)
my fav breakcore uses the goodold hardtek gabba kickbass. Check out Audiotist has a tru mastering over his breakcore sound, 'too high' 'problemes' and 'that lemon tree remix' are some of my fav
I like the floating head.
топовое произношение, хочу так же уметь)
great tutorial bro ! 👍👍👍
Highly recommend Renoise or Redux, chop breaks retrigger pitch really really fast. They're cheap and you get free updates for over a decade
6:22 why do i feel a brutalismus 3000 vibe ?
bro very nice video I love it
Me on FL Studio: 🫣
i generally just used breakcore as a catch all term for a bunch of micro genres in this chaotic space, from mashcore, Raggcore, digital hardcore, microcore, chipbreak, splattercore, spazzcore and a bunch of other terms I heard used.
10 years of using ableton AND I JUST NOW DISCOVER THAT U CAN STRETCH FUCKING AUDIO CLIPS WITH SHIFT+LEFT MOUSE AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Can you go over in depth how you do that thing at 6:20?
great video keep it up
you had me by the thumbnail
Bless you for this video, you real as fuck for making it bro
can anyone more familiar with the genre of breakcore recommend me any stuff where they utilize guitar? a 1:03 he mentions artists using guitar riffs, but I find them to be few and far between
i know fuck all about music theory, but i still wanna make music in this genre
make kusoikore then
'breakcore' is one problem, but what i hate even more is people just straight up calling everything with amen breaks/fast drums breakcore. And the other way round when they call breakcore jungle or d&b is pretty fucking infuriating.
"with the abomination you created" YEHS
vsnares & igorrr ❤
10/10 helped me and it is true breakcore
Do you have a full version of the song you made? Id love to listen to it
I don't really make breakcore but if I use drum breaks I like to generate them with the software drummers in Garageband for IOS, then drag the result into whichever DAW or sampler I'm using
I'm gonna try this (If you don't mind)
this is all I dream everyday hahah, thanku
good content subbed
You skipped the part where we have to watch Lain and make an insane cover art. (joking)
The video clip choices were too good..
the best way to tell if something is breakcore is if people are arguing about if it's breakcore in the comments
Where in this would the Ultrakill OST fall under?
You need a retro sampler, you can not replicate an old sampler with bitcrush alone. Software wise TAL Sampler is the current (Dec 2023) best softeware option. Aternatively you can buy a lofi hardware sampler (many options here, from vintage rackmounts to modern eurorack to new hipster desktop units), the prices are not to bad (as low as 150 for a Boss/Roland SP, I just saw an Akai S100 for 300 and even 800 for some tastey isn't really that bad) considering lots of music software is hundreds even thousands of dollars in price (and other instruments such as guitar your look over 2k for a Gibson Les Paul standard), some hardware samplers integrate just fine with your DAW (my Akai S950 takes midi from a DAW and is integrated like a real life vst almost)- so a split hardware/software setup is fine and not to be dismissed but at the very least you want the TAL sampler VST. If not it will sound "fake" to those in the know, also the process will illegitimate too (again to those in the know / breakbeat corksiffers, but they do have a point). The time stretch algoryhm in this video is 100% illegitimate (along with many other things), again use TAL (or the more tedious route Akaiser, some DAC software, a bitcrusher and other stuff and it still won't sound rite) or a just use a hardware sampler. Also, this is a(nother, sorry to say) huge issue - DAW wise (the daw having dodgy options that seemed good was the root of all the issues with this video which will misinform thousands), Ableton isn't the best option because it's sampler isn't up to task and notice he only used arrange view (Ableton boots into session view and half the interface and development goes into the session view), ofcourse it's possible with Ableton but it by nature has a lot of options that will lead you down the wrong path. Idealy you want Cubase, something close or one of it's many clones / offshoots, Studio One, REAPER, at a stretch Logic (trackers are also an option) and so on. This is because Cubase was the weapon of choice for home recording hardware in the hay days, it by nature has the workflow used because it was the software used and at it's core it hasn't changed much (you could even use an old version of Cubase or Notator just fine with a hardware sampler). You don't need much to do this, the synths mentions here are unessesary, a "real" sampler (including TAL) will add harmonics to any 1 note sample and distort all notes above and below root (with hardware you can also clip the sample on the way in for extra distortion), you then just play the sampler like a synth and finese the synth like option on the sampler / use the sampler as your synth. Effects (hardware or software) comp, limiter, reverb (Vallhala VintageVerb or something along these lines if your going software effects), basic EQ, delay if you want to be fancy but you can just chop paste and lower volume instead. That's it, forget the 900 vsts effects bundles and 300 dollar glitch effects plugins, not necesary and imho don't sound as good. I could make Breakcore on an old potato PC i got free or for 70 dollrs max, formatted to XP or below, with ancient Cubase and a hardware rack sampler from a charity shop, you get a workout carrying the sampler home, you gave money to charity and you'll be happy making making atompheric jungle which everyone calls breakbeat and playing XP Doom (a breakbeat CD is max $4, i got the ultimate breaks volume with Amen on vinyl for $7, or the free download maniplulated with a real sampler is cool too via line in or via cd or floppy you burnt yourself because potato PCs do that all day, or mod your sampler to take a usb and swop files from your alienware laptop with the skillex sticker or watever, the world is your Oister), just don't pay 189usd for Serum and in total probably over 5k for all the junk mentioned in this video ,189usd alone can get you an Akai S2000/3000, a potato PC (all ancient software is free), and still leave you change for beer, then just sample notes or random noises from literally anywhere including but not limited the radio, choir accapella records or anything for $2 from charity shops, sample cds even downloded ones, akai sample packs, sounds from weird old films like fantasic planet, acoustic guitars, you yodeling, some random 32bit vst - these work on xp, propellerheads ReBirth or whatever. World = your Oister + beer. You'll of spent less and you'll be more legit, everything you create will be gold, the vsts kids will speand thousands chasing your authentic (cost less than a days wage) sound, which they'll never get while locked into a vicious cycle of subscription services depression, as you win on XP + Doom. :)
bro forgot that you can flip breaks backwards to make them FILTHIER
Using trackers is better for drumbreaks than using conventional DAW's such Ableton, Logic or FL Studio
but it’s alot harder to learn and get used to
@@gammacxy getting used to? sure. hard to learn? not quite. from what i've seen, the workflow on them is pretty straight-foward, more straight-foward than your average DAW i'd argue, due to being able to edit the notes on the fly and not having to enter any menus to do so. getting used to the tracker workflow may not be for everyone tho.
@@gammacxy The typical Tracker is not harder to learn than FL Studio, or any modern DAW really. Now getting used to it, that's another thing entirely and depends on how much time you spent using a conventional DAW.
I started making electronic music with a tracker before moving to a linear DAW. I actually don't miss trackers at all, being able to see the waveform that way was amazing and sped things up for me. I've gone full circle back to using hardware, but still play with Live. I can't see myself going back to protracker or something like it. Just a different perspective.
What is better about it vs conventional DAWs?
Just a fact (I'm on my mom's phone) there are different types and genres of breakcore because Rory in early 20s is more hardcore and Tokyo pull is old school
Brilliant thank you
awesome video :)
Thank you!
where can i get that piano sound at 6:11 ?
Breakcore is a lot like punk and about freedom of expression in electronic music. I think a lot of old heads get mad about the genre because its started to generate a bubble of sorts where the sounds from different artists become all too similar. In some senses there is no true way to make it but several ways to emulate pre existing forms. This construct fucks old heads up as it removes the freedom aspect. Over the years various forms have emerged since the early 1990's between terms Drill and Bass, Breakcore, Flashcore, etc. Its all rather mental at the end of the day and none of this matters as long as the artist is truly authentic within the music they choose to create. If you are new to the genre check out the Mutant Sniper Comp from 2004 Invasion From XXX Dimension.
6:20 fnf players: this is fire
At this point if a human being can withstand hearing it, "it's not breakcore" XD
Breakcore* blew up recently among US zoomers via Tik-Tok, and it seems like it mainly caught on not with people who were already listening to other forms of electronic music, but rather with a lot of people who were previously into stuff like Hip-Hop, Phonk, Lo-Fi, Shoegaze, Rock/Metal, etc.
In other words, a lot of the newer producers are coming to Breakcore with no reference point for what was previously considered normal in the genre, and are only getting exposed to short songs via Tik-Tok. I've also noticed that modern Hip-Hop producers (or at least the more amateur ones) tend to make songs that are only in the 1-3 minute range, which would explain the short runtimes from anyone coming from that community.
*It's worth pointing out that a lot of what these people think is Breakcore is actually Jungle or DnB. but since a lot of these people are from the US, they've often had no exposure to anything like DnB, Jungle or Breakcore before this point. As a result, a lot of them have learned one of a few different misconceptions about what Breakcore is, which can include:
1. Breakcore & DnB are the same thing.
2. Breakcore is a subgenre of DnB that features sample breaks & ambient soundscapes (i.e. Atmospheric Jungle or Liquid DnB, but calling it Breakcore).
3. Breakcore is anything with a breakbeat (i.e. anything from Jungle & DnB to downtempo breakbeat type stuff is all "Breakcore").
4. Breakcore is a genre of aesthetics (like cottage-core) that isn't exclusively musical in nature, with the visual side basically just being glitch art that heavily features anime girls.
Glitchbreak is a genre that’s been used to separate true breakcore from the clones. For example a lot of people have started to associate the likes of sewerslvt with the term glitchbreak as it differs both from jungle and breakcore so to help with the recent genre confusion fans have began to call that newer style of music glitchbreak. At least that’s my understanding of the genre.
It categorises music that is too heavy to be necessarily jungle, but yet too soft too be breakcore
~ an unknown redditor
As a total layman, the only two genres I care about is "I can dig it" and "nah, I'll pass". ;)
according to the Slavic accent 100 %
what programs/apps do you use ?? i wanna start making music as a beginner but idk where to start 😭 are there good free ones ??
A great FREE option will be a program called "Waveform free". Thought about making video on it. Personally and in this video I use Ableton Live.
Man I just say I like Drill n Bass now
Can you release this finished? sound soooooo good
bro should release the track made in the video
Can you do something like “go! spastic”? Cuz that’s what many IDM enjoyers think is “breakcore”
Atari teenage riot was sort of break core. About as close as it got towards the mainstream.
To be honest, I dislike most of the break cores that were popular from 2021 to 2023. Don't get me wrong, breakcore, which samples audio from anime and other sources, is unique and fun, but it's become completely saturated because so many people are creating it the same way.
EDM also declined for similar reasons.
To begin with, I dislike songs that lack creativity, not just breakcore.