Autel Consultant | How to Program a USED DME Model on a BMW Mini Cooper when Autel Cant | Autel 2020
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2020
- Hey guys, Curtis here your Autel Diagnostic Consultant. Today I am going to share with you a very interesting case study that involved configuring a USED DME module to a 2007 BMW Mini Cooper. For those of you who do not know, BMW doesn't allow us to program any used modules if we use their OEM interface. Some times the Maxisys Elite can program it, but it might not have the CAS/DME adjustment feature needed to get the car to start.
So what do you when your ELITE can't program the used model and does not have any adjustment features? In this presentation, I will show you a secret software that will do this feature (and more) with just a few clicks of a button.
If you would like to purchase this software, book a consult with me at www.auteltech.co.za and I will share with you the different options regarding the BMW VIN writing software. And other diagnostic tools.
Thanks, and enjoy.
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Chris I've learned so much from you and I really appreciate.
I remember watching your old video while doing AKL on a toyota camry after i brought my IM508 i faced the same situation few times.
And i have to re-watch your old videos to make the money i wanted,
We ran through this issue on a 2004 745li. The car needed to pass state obd2 emissions inspection but the IM monitors would reset as soon as you'd turn off the car. I came to the conclusion that the ram/memory in the DME couldn't hold the data. It does happen sometimes. The car would need to be driven every time to ready the monitors but a person just can't drive a couple hundred miles non stop. So we orders a used DME. I used my elite to reprogram and reset parameters. Didn't work, had the same problem. Used INPA also, no luck. Finally sent it to a ECM guy to swap out the internals so to ISN and CAS would be synced. He couldn't do it either for some reason and said the used DME was bad. I didn't really believe it. Put the old one back and the customer got inspection done in another county. Saw the HEX 2 that could fix my problem supposedly at that time but was way too much and wasn't worth it. It's a very rare problem and usually happens on older vehicles that are not much on the road. What do you charge to do this?
Hello, I dont offer the service to configure the DMEs etc. Im selling the Autohex software and giving the support behind it to the client. The software has different packages available that range from2650 USD to 5850 . It just depends on your needs. But in your case its probably not worth it if you dont get this problem alot . Maybe later one I migh have a client I can refer you to who purchased the software.
So glad i subscribed to your channel.
Interesting take
Thank you excellent video
Good 👍 and thanks
Hi, Mr Curtis, let me see if i anderstood what u did. the isn code was copy from de used ecu (from other car) and transfered to the cas of the car? if So then the isn now is from other car too, or am i very confused? I mean , what isn has the car righ now? Thanks
I have autel maxisy with the truck program I want to know if I can buy the car program and add it.
I have a big question, if used DME is cloned, say, with KTAG, the resulting fine will contain the ISN and will it get written to the donor DME?
Hey Curtis, while I like your videos I think you may need to study a little more on your core brand Autel. Both the 608 and 508 with the xp400 do pretty much all of the Autohex work at half the price.
The reason the Elite wouldn't do the CAS alignment is that the ISN wasn't matched. All of which can be done with £1500 of Autel products. With a 5/608 and a 908p/e you can do pretty much anything on BMW bar 2019+ software updates
Wow good to know. Those are the new key makers right? I'm thinking of swapping out the elite for one of those.
How can you match the ISN on the elite if at all?
@@fj7334 you can't. Elite has no security functionality on BMW. 608 however is great, if you know what you are doing or indeed have time to learn and practice it is great for security- ISN reading and writing in DME/DDE, CAS and FEM and renewal of FEM and CAS. Downgrading CAS3+, renewing keys (although the cable Autel list is not actually available, but can make your own) cloning- all manner of chipsets, eeprom work like FRM repairs really easily and with good instructions (need to find your own manner of repairing the software as it will only read/write and set the partition). Instrument cluster, although on the BMWs does not erase so use new eep.
HI Speed. I agree with always learning about our brands functions . But I will I slightly disagree with some of your points. ( It could be just a mis understand but ill try to clarify) Remember in this Case study.. The client did not have a valid subscription. Therefore he could not update the DME ( which he thought he did) So thats 1 issues .Second as I stated in another video sometimes the Autel does not have The Cas alignment function. ( I know this because there has been several occasions were I helped a client program the module and when the car would start we would look for the alighnment features and they were not present. I even took the liberty to ask the head engineer at autel to verify if the function was available and for certain makes they said it was not developed") So yes sometimes the Elite/ Pro are able to programe the DME and Do the Alighment ( And dont get me wrong its really strong on the BMW) But there are times were special functions are missings and it leave most people in an unfortuante situation)
The Autohex software has alot of functions that the Autel cant do. For example... Ive heard of people who programmed a CAS module with the ELITE Brick the Untis. When this happens they have to send it away to someone who has software like the Autohex.. to restore the cas.. you cant do with the Autel Products.
Another example is the DME/ Cas alightnment.
Yes the Autel has this feature but there are times were it does not . ( One client had to outsource this procedure to a tech.. I my client what software he used and he told me he was using the Autohex)
So maybe the vehicles you are getting in your shop you are able to use the Autel Tools to do the programing of the DME and adjustments.. but usually when a client calls me its because there is a problem .. and this is a common problem that I ahve been seeing with the Autel software for years.
@@AutelConsultancy hey Curtis. I understand he was out of subs but that would have made no difference, the Elite can't deal with ISN reading/writing full stop and updating the software would have made no difference to vehicle running or not. As for people bricking CAS modules, every one I have seen has been user error, but more commonly ABS modules, again user error though.
My post was meant about the fact that we all respect you as an Autel guy, your vids are very informative and hopefully bring you plenty of work as you not only sell the product but use it also meaning any of your customers will get great service. Which is why I brought it up, why point your clients to a more expensive tool, that has no better functionality and that you don't sell? Surely selling the Autel is good for you as you are a dealer and support/tech service provider. I think though maybe you need to look into the IM range of Autel tools allot more closely, they have unparalleled coverage of BMW security at the price point. Sure things like Autohex at £5k, BMW Explorer at £10k and particularly the VVDI BMW at less than £1000 are great. But none do more than the IM, in fact as a package none come close as in multi brand capability.
Aside from my own business my main job is technical and diag services for the biggest BMW Independent specialist in the South West UK. My 2 go to tools are Elite and IM608. Sure we use ISTA through the portal, Autologic, Toolset and a few others. But the never had a BMW or mini that Autel wouldn't do a CAS or EWS alignment on, unless there was an issue with the vehicle, in those instances genuine ISTA had the same issues. In such cases only the Elite would allow me to update single module software, something ISTA and Autologic won't do so another massive plus for Autel. (Some other tools will do it on E chassis vehicles, but they are slow to set up) Which would usually get them working or I could remove and renew on the bench with 608. The only real benefit with Autohex is it has some built in softwares for certain procedures, softwares that can be sourced very easily online for peanuts and used with the XP400 or indeed any number of programmers
What about the vin number. When need smog is it gonna read old vin number from donor car or the actual vin from new car ?
You need to flash the ECM after using either an ISCAN or WinKFP. It will flash based on the VIN that is in the CAS
I saw a person who program a used dme module where he changed the number of the cass module with a BMW software and he used a decoding from the same software and he was successful and he was abel to syncroniz the cass and dme module
Thanks, Singh
Hey Curtis, thanks for the tutorial. I have a question...where did you go to learn how to program and code because I've been trying to find someone or a class to teach me how to program, but not successful, thank you. And also does it teach you how to program all make and models ECU, ECM, PCM and TCM?
Google L1 automotive training, Keith Perkins is the owner. He teaches & shows how to configure your equipment to do module programming & coding with domestic & Asian vehicles.
@@spot-onautomotivediagnosti7583 Thank you sooooo much for that info! I will look him up!
Check @keyclinicafrica
@@johnbriscoejr9738If you want to learn how to clone, my advice is to try Diagspeed. They cater to locksmiths, and sell all types of tooling for that demographic. They sell the tools *and the training*
But you have to go in person. They are located in California.
Thanks for the video! But couldn't you just use IM608 with a Gbox to read and write ISN from one DME to another?
Yes but the client didnt have the G-box when this video was published and also he was not confertable doing bench work as it wasnt his strong point
Yes IM508 & IM608, the title needs to be edited.
Is it possible to change the language of the full car example bmw x1 buildyear 2011 with the autel tool?
hi thank you for all of your vedios i will be appreciate if you help me in how to fix the problem of my programer autel im 608 when i want to add new key in vw cars 2015 and more it demand from me to read the orginal key by the programer but the programer cant read it and always said to me search for other resons such as internen and caels and son althogh every thing is fine thank you hope i can have an answer
Thank so much for the information
I am in canada would like to get Gbox2 from you
Moreover can im608 program 2021 toyota corolla ECU and how can it be done
Can im608 program all key loss for 2022 lexus
If my Elite and IM 508 with xp400 can't do a used PCM on that Mini, then it can go to the dealer or that Mini can be someone else's major
Hi I am very intrested in the Alltel lineup I'm looking at that MK808I believe I'm just wondering what you think of this machine the price point is right I have a 2016 land rover discovery sport and a 2007 BMW X5 that I'll be working on mostly does this machine work on this car or what do you recommend please let me know I would mind by in a machine off of you I also I live in Canada hopefully that's not a problem
Hey buddy.. Its not a problem as I have clients that I represent in candada. I dont do full consultations over youtube.. but based on the little information I recieved you would need at least a stage 2 device. The one your looking at is a stage 1 and all of the MK series of tool will not recieve USA support. If your from North America I only recommond considering an MK device if you sell it to you directly. This way you will have me to help you on all the support levels ( technical software and hardware)
thanks
Im608 has a a jtag for eeproms, and there lots of software to read, erase, and write eeproms so just need to duplicate the module
Yes exactly , save the original file from reading and rewrite via dump .
Hi I have a question I own the Autel elite and it's seemed I can no longer access 2018 up Chrysler after my subscription expired even with the 8-12 bypass. What I read was that all vehicles would still work without a sub. but I wouldn't get any new vehicles that came out also I would no longer be able to program Benz or BMW.
HI Lou , can you pin point your question? Im understanding your not able to access Chrysler and BMW benz for programming
Did you have to drop $5800 because you can install a part of that Auto Hex program on to your client's PCs and remote in and get the jobs done remotely using their Autel jbox between their pc much like an OE sub when client's Autel units aren't able to do the job as expected?😄
what happens with the other modules? like a ABS Module? can i programming a old one? TKS
All the other modules are fine. You can program virtually all the modules for bmw with the Autohexsoftware
What about Older DME with EWS, can the tool make adjustments in this case?
Autohex does not do ews
I think a Dodge Ram will do the EWS
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You know that since the Right to Repair stuff has gone through in some states they have to make the tools available to allow us to reflash used DMEs.
Actually no, nobody is required to supply tools to program used modules.
Autel ms908 sp can do programming with ford? I mean not software update. Other things. For example pcm swapping. Or security system sync.?
This is a coding procedure. Generally speaking yes it can.
@@AutelConsultancy thank you for your answer when I swap for example a pcm at Ford it's part of immobilizer or a bcm as well. Then I have to i itialize it with other parts of the immobiliser. So when I understand good then it goes. Thanks for your answer! Oh I forgot I'm from europe. Stay healthy. Best wishes
Could i do this with a 608pro?
hey curtis i need get with you on geeting your plan
Hey Kenned, Ill email you later a calender invitation to schedule the call.
Need link to purchase the software
Ok, so what if I simply want to pay you to reprogram my ecm on line ,can you do that? And of course pay for it in advance?
HI Rusty, Do you have an Autel tool but you just doing know how to do the programming?
@@AutelConsultancy no sir I only have the 2014 countryman s. That needs programming.
Not do I have $2000.00
5800? Only for BMW? There are others that do over 90% of all ECUs not just BMW. And very very good tool. Not for keys but ECUs only.
Its not for everyone. Remeber there are different packages.. I purchased the most expensive one so I can learn and help my clients. If I found other software that solve my clients problems Ill purchase it as well.
Does thus work with porsche 986 dme?
How can i do to contact you directly.
I have same tips for you
autel can program ths dme just use gbox2 it can read and write without any problem
Thats correct.
Fell asleep after 10 minutes and found someone who gets to the point. Don't pad it our to increase UA-cam revenue
Hey Gordon, I made 194.58 USD last month in revenue. I personally spent 21,000 USD last year alone making these videos for you . Your comment doesnt match up with these number and it sad how you are complaining of free information when you cant even pay attention.
How much this Hex software cost and how can I get it ?
Book a consult with me and ill share with you the different options. www.auteltech.co.za. You might not need the full package that I purchased.
Autohex is a good tool
My clients are getting results with with it and it has a lot of capabities that I didnt list on here. I like it
Not exactly true.. you can just get isn code from dme and transfer to cas... only down side is you need to make new key for car... and thats only if its the updated software version.... auto hex 2 and vvdi 2 can do no problem...
Thanks Auto, I had a couple people in the community also mention other methods as well but at the time this was the only solution I could find.
HOW CAN I CONTACT YOU?
Which autel device can program used DME?
Thank you
Im608 PRO
@@AutelConsultancy thank you for your response! Will Elite II do the job? Because this what I just bought.
@@mo7ammad91 HI Mohmmad. Im afraid it cant. Maybe on older vehicles you can get a way with it but generaly speaking you need to do this procedure on the bench. What I suggest you do next time if you want to avoid costly purchasing decisions like this is to get a proper consolation. This way you will know the limitations of each tool but more importantly you will get a tool strategy based on the problems I discover . Personally I havent recommend the ELITE II but who it might be a good fit for you.
@@AutelConsultancy make sense! I did some research online but I guess venders always don’t get to know the specs and everything about what they sell. I contacted Autel manufacturer this morning and advised me that Elite II, MS909 and Ultra Lite will do the job.
Do you recommend any of the above over Elite II?
Thank you so much for your help.
@@mo7ammad91 HI Mohommad. I hope your doing well. The problem that some of my clients reported to me is when they call Autel New York, its very difficult to find someone who is a product specialize and a tech support specialist. The product specialist dont know the tool inside and out . The just know the general specs based on the official autel website. Since this information is free, it can be very costly to the customer , especially if your trying to do a complex procedure. If you book a consultation with me , the advantage you will have is that I take responsibility for the information that I give ( since its a paid 97 usd consultation) and since I do my own tech support and do the procedure you want to do on weekly basis . I can give you the tool strategy and process on how its done to your VIN. I dont give any tool recommendations with out consulting a client first because I dont want to be responsible when the free information I give is not accurate because I dont know your situation in detail.
Hi. I have a autel 906bt with scope. How do i get a sub for updates only?
I can sell you the update directly . This way you can insert the code into your account then you willl be updates for another year and it will put your tool back under warranty
@@AutelConsultancy not looking for warranty. How much ?
@@raychad5058 Hi Chad all the update subscriptions come with warranty. Its up to you if you want to use them or not.
@@AutelConsultancy ok thx. Is there such a thing as a update only sub?
@@raychad5058 Nope. Its like a unicorn.. They dont exist lol. Most people wants there tool updated and also want warranty just in case the screen starts to lose its functionality. Autel wont look at your tool even if its out of warrant.
How to program and code Audi, VW, Seat, Ford, Nissan, BMW, Ford used TCM? Thanks
J2534 and Manufacturer software's and windows 10 latptop. You might struggle a bit with the installations but I offer training for that
@@AutelConsultancy where can I get those softwares from? Are they gonna be separate for all makes? Or is there any Autel one which can do all makes? What about the VCI? Every manufacturer software has its own VCIs and how to get them? Thanks
@@mohammadsiddiq6157 HI Mohmmad. If you want the links to every oem website you can go to OEMonestop.com . Each manufacturer has a different price and procedure to download their software. You can use the Autel j2534 on most of the OEM software. If you want more detailed information on how to do flash programming then you can book a consult with me and ill tell you what you need to know.
I really like Autel because I got a MK908P but...
The thing you said about ISTA can’t program used modules is not true. I use this software for years now and had alot of customers with used modules. ISTA programs all the modules.
Used DME Modules?
Autel Consultancy Yes also used DME modules. You need to know how ISTA works because its not only programming and done. You need to program the module and the start value to the DME after programming. E-SYS can also do the job for the F series
@@tigerbalmgaminghd3872 Hi Tigerbalm. Maybe one day you can show me how to do this because before I went through all of these measures.. I ask several of my clients and other bmw tech specialist if I can use ISTA to program a used DME module with the j2534 / Ista P and they said that they didnt recommend any used DME/FEM/CAS with another vin number to be fitted to another chassis as a test.
They recommend my client buy a new DME, CAS, FEM etc from the BMW dealership, and they will write vin number to it and the vehicle order and write a 128 bit encryption key to it so the key can be recognized.
Then I can buy the ISTA software from them and use the ICOM interface ( He didnt recommend a j2534 device) to connect to the vehicle and treat the new DME, CAS or FEM as replacement follow-up. The software will program and encode the new module without problems later.
And after studying the OEM repair information .. It was congurent to what the techs where telling me. So at that point I was discouraged to see if ISTA could do it. If you could show me this that will help my clients and the community. Its always great to see different ways to accomplish these tasks
Autel Consultancy I only use ISTA with ICOM NEXT. Used modules can work but some don’t. So I agree buying a new module is the best option for a 100% guarantee.
ISTA is a great software to use. The only thing is you need to know the cars before you connect something to the obd.
ISTA can NOT program used DMEs.
Okay.
I meant New DME from MINI for 2419.00 I tried that to much
Very nice sir but all this staff cost a fortune, when it's gone pay back itself, broken ecu's it's a not every days problem, we getting 2-3 a year but subscription and costs is way too high.
For the average consumer yes but my clients have lower cost and they will be able to use there tool to solve big problems that they can charge more. There are people who have full blown business with just that software. You might have a marketing issue as well as no strategy to keep you cost low
How much this
do you do business with people in the caribbean?
Hey Delvin . Yes , I probably have a few clients near you that you might know
@@AutelConsultancy
I’d like to know about the ones for heavy equipment
If you have a video on them send me the link please
@@delvincuffy4142 Hi Delvin , if your serious I would recommend booking a consultation at auteltech.co.za by clicking the diagnostic tool consultation. After the consultation ill include videos on the tool I recommend you. Otherwise you can search on youtube or contact autel new york. Hope this helps
Hello respect!
Please help me please Russify my favorite maxsisys ms908s pro.
Only in English The diagnostic system works and it is very difficult for me ...
Help me ..!
(How hard I was digging money and buying my dreams maxsisys and I can't work, I don't understand English ..! 😞😔
Sent from iPhone
You need to contact your supplier and let them see if they can change the language.. If you want me to do I an help you but I charge.
Autel Consultancy
STFU your annoying!
Long story short you only talk about CAS programming and different software where people need information about autel ,because that one probably do more than hex
Dear friend long story short
AutoHexII
Yes!. But whats a story with out any theater :)
autel dosent work pasthru ista/p
I have trouble with it connecting sometimes and most of my bmw techs dont use the passthru. If the do its a different company thats been validated
THE BEST WAY TO MAKE PEOLPE BUY THIS PRODUTS IS MAKING A VIDEO STEP BY STEP , CLONING , ECU , AND CLONING CAS2 , BMW E61 2004 THEM IS MORE EASIER TALK ABOUT , SHOW THIS ITEM MAKING PROGRAMING , AND ADDS KEYS , LIKE THIS PEOPLE WILL SEE WHAT CAN DO SORRY MY BAD ENGLISH
Your English is good my friend. The main reason I dont publish all my content on youtube is because I share this how to information with the clients I sold to when the need help. I dont work for Autel so I dont benefit if anyone purchases locally or online. I do make videos that go in depth on certain topics but you will get more information if I represent you as my client.
Hi, I have a problem with my Mini Cooper s r56 not start.
The mini was on taking it out of the garage when it suddenly turned off. The first Scanner have these codes:
2781
2775
2D52
*2DCA*
275F
272F
I changed 4 spark plugs, 4 coils, the Camshaft Position Sensor and a new battery. But it did not turn on, now it is giving these codes:
005E31
009314
*00A0B4*
00932D
009CB5
I deleted them and it only gives me this code: ( A0B4 )
The mini starter good but not start.
I try the new battery and it says it's ok, but when I test the battery with the terminals mounted on the Mini Cooper it says it's bad I don’t now why. I also reset the new battery in the mini system with the scanner but nothing.
( A0B4 )
Autohex and hextag are cloned tool,and for Clone its too expensive tool.this ca be done cheaper
Its a clone of what ? Because most tools/ software are cloned from the orginal.
Bmw Explorer was first tool with this Features.
@@waldemarfechtel1644 Yes , I stumbled across this when I was doing research but the course instructor had lessons using the Autohex and I decided to purchase the most expensive package so I can aquire the skillsets to solve more problems on bmw. Maybe ill check it out to compare the 2 softwares but right now this software is working for me and my clients.
@Nhyiraba Latif HI Nhyiraba... Go to my website and book an appointment with me... www.auteltech.co.za Then click the service that says DTC ( Diagnostic Tool Consult) and select the date and time you would like me to call you. Thanks
Horrible! Watching paint dry. Watching grass grow...all happen quicker than this video. I have a life and I'm going back to it now.
Tick Tock might be a better platform?
Only a fool would buy a BMW!
Hey Rick lol This is a positive for us if you thinking about it. Knowing what problems that are associated with them we can charge $$$. I have clients charging 500 - 800 USD for the service seen in this video. The dealer would be way to expensive.
You giving up false information I did it
Hi John . I did it to before . Many of times. But as you know some years makes and models dont have these functions available. And I told you the client did not have a valid subscription to program the module in the first place.
Really ffs get a cgdi bmw for 800 euro and do what a fuck u want not 5800 dollars for an autohex
Hi Behuli, Dont worry my client didnt spend a dime on anything. Money is not an obligation for me when it comes to my client.
@@AutelConsultancy just in case u made him spend 5800 for 1 coding to make him pay for an ecu iam a tech and i do virginize all ecu and recode as new and actually is very easy to virgin ecu or make even immo off so it would be really a shame like i said to make him pay for an ecu that amount cus i wouldent see the benefit of using you as a consultant lol but nice u make with those video its good some who are late in the game can learn something from u
@@AutelConsultancy nice job by the way explaining autel products as i said people learn from this gre8 job
@@ilirjanbehluli3986 HI Behluli. He didnt pay anything. I purchased it for him to solve his problem. Then when I have clients who get in this situation I rent it out to them. I also sell the tool and more importantly I like their support. They help me out ALOT! So I had a long term vision for this. Not short term.
@@AutelConsultancy i do sell them too not just autohex but all ecu r/w tools 😉
For the love of God get out of turtle mode holly hell! This video should could've Chopin by half my guy...
Sorry Man, I cant rush the client when they are doing the procedure.
@@AutelConsultancy 2020 toyota rav4 coming
Disregard this information. And never take tech advice from a uninformed salesmen.
Hey RC, I completely agree with you. Most salesmen are focusted on sales versus actually serving the client.
Just because you don’t know how doesn’t mean no one else can 🤷🏻♂️
I,i,i am a narcissist .....
Can you stop talking too much and go to the points that what waiting for
Hey my friend. I would highly recommend going to scotty kilmers channel. He doesn't talk as much and you would learn a lot more on his channel.