Asher trained at the gym I worked at before going to Stanford. I gotta say out of everyone in the gym his flairs on pommel where the fastest, I would be sitting down a few feet from the horse and feel the wind from his feet and legs moving so fast. Love that guy, glad he's doing so good.
I'm not very familiar with men's gymnastics so I don't know any of these guys, but Brandon Briones, he frightens me. He misses the tap almost every time, then nails the skill. I gasped every time. I don't know how he does it.
From what I gather, USAG starting giving bonuses at national comps on the men’s side to incentivise gymnasts performing certain difficult skills. I guess the idea was to reward gymnasts who compete more valuable D-scores so that they’d win the national comp, making them more comfortable to perform those routines on the international stage. USAG is looking for world medals on the Men’s side which is why the women in the US who have been dominating won’t see a similar bonus.
@@sadiqquallom4748very well said! I was going to say because the men suck and do low difficulty when compared to the world so the IS is finding dumb ways to encourage them to have higher difficulty. I honestly think giving a financial bonus to the men and women with the highest difficulty might be a better option imo.
The bonuses are to incentivize more difficult skills because US men's gymnastics is well below the top D scores at Olympics and worlds. The bonus is so that the gymnast can risk those skills without fear of low scores keeping them off the US team ( i.e. funding) . Last year was the first year they did it so who knows how long it will take for that to make a difference.
Hi there , some of those are “connection values” Gymnasts can earn these bonuses by performing certain skills in connection with each other. These extra tenths can help cushion the blow of deductions for small form breaks and stepping out of bounds with one foot.
USA is giving bonuses for harder skills and routines as incentives to perform harder skills so that we can compete with china japan russia for a world medal
good to see the men not all looking they are ready for a Mr. universe muscle contest. that seemed to be the trend for USA the last decade. what happened , they failed for the most part as a team.
Not very many men would look right if they were dancing in their floor routines honestly. More of them thank you think lack rhythm and fluidity in dance. Probably because they don’t train in it, but still
@@cocoroni1031”Different sports” is not an excuse for enforcing different gender roles under a sports OF THE EXACT SAME NAME lmao. It’s not like the men’s named “athletic gymnastics.” It’s the same essential umbrella sport with the same apparatus. Don’t use the “different sports” card to hand wave away the discrepancies in artistry.
@@bagelized Yes, they are different sports with origin. Artistry in MAG is defined by strength and precision from the COP. As I said, MAG is lacking performance factor to attract audience. And dance elements are clearly NOT "weird little dance elements".
Just not seeing still on the world stage! Flexed feet over shooting handstands. Just not there yet and until they do an overhaul of mens gymnastics it wont be. The parkour tumbling is not cute either
What do you mean by parkour tumbling? And how can it be overhauled? Not being argumentative, just interested in thoughts from someone who appears to have thought about it. There isn't much conversation about men's gymnastics in the US. With the popularity of so many other sports for men in the US I really don't see a way for major change. I certainly don't expect the US men to ever be like the women on the world stage, but maybe I'm too cynical.
@@hazelnutspred3348 Unfortunately, the USA MAG often lost consistency in finals. They hit when they didn't have enough difficulty to challenge for medals.
Genuinely curious, when speaking of parkour tumbling, is this in reference to the sort of forward round off to get into front tumbling? If so, I’d look to the Japanese team for that popularity. I believe they’re the ones who’ve utilized that more than anyone (and maybe did first), and they’re currently ranked #1 in the world! So I don’t really see it as a problem. Definitely unorthodox, but it seems to be advantageous for forward twisting elements as it’s a trend that’s catching on all over the world.
@@hazelnutspred3348I knew they were close and that they struggled at event finals. Also seems they were frustrated with not getting credit for some skills. The coverage I watch didn't show very many of the routines I guess because they did poorly on their first event I think it was. I saw their struggles own pommel horse but then it seemed like every team struggled on pommel horse. It just seems unfortunate that they started off on that event. I really do think they just need to keep working on what they're doing. We're not going to see a change instantly by asking them to do more difficult gymnastics. I hope this year's World team and next year's Olympic team will be able to put together a performance they can be proud of whether they medal or not.
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Khoi is really good on Pommel and he really cleaned up his form and flexed feet on floor!
i love how curran got 1st on pbars even with a fall!!
over scored!
@@happydogs9512 real!!!
I didn't understand that one.
No he was not overscored because the USAG has big bonuses for higher difficulty routines
Asher trained at the gym I worked at before going to Stanford. I gotta say out of everyone in the gym his flairs on pommel where the fastest, I would be sitting down a few feet from the horse and feel the wind from his feet and legs moving so fast. Love that guy, glad he's doing so good.
I haven't seen anyone move like Curran Phillips on pbars in a minute. Such secure movements and skills. Beautiful to watch.
Yeah and first place with a fall is crazy
if you fall off you should NOT get gold. PERIODT !
Omg Asher really Threw a Ri Se Gwang! That was wild.
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Impressive competition for the Stanford guys
I'm not very familiar with men's gymnastics so I don't know any of these guys, but Brandon Briones, he frightens me. He misses the tap almost every time, then nails the skill. I gasped every time. I don't know how he does it.
We need to keep an eye out for Khoi… that dudes gonna be huge in a year or two. Hong too, but he needs to work on controlling his power
I am a Donnell stan! He's been cheated out of the Olympics twice. This will be his time! Go Donnell!!
I sure hope you are right. It was great to see him. I haven't watched men's gym since he first started.
Asher Hong is outstanding floor exercise routine.
why does Wiskus have no bonus on his high bar? is it routine construction? surely there’s a way for him to get bonus somehow.
Man Curran has potential to be world champion on p bars. First with a fall is insane
Khoi is so underrated!
Not by those know the sport.
The fact that Asher still got 2nd place still impresses me because he stepped out of bounds
I don’t like how they count the bonus towards the event titles. That should be excluded imo
Go USA
what are the bonuses for?
I ask the same question
From what I gather, USAG starting giving bonuses at national comps on the men’s side to incentivise gymnasts performing certain difficult skills. I guess the idea was to reward gymnasts who compete more valuable D-scores so that they’d win the national comp, making them more comfortable to perform those routines on the international stage. USAG is looking for world medals on the Men’s side which is why the women in the US who have been dominating won’t see a similar bonus.
@@sadiqquallom4748very well said! I was going to say because the men suck and do low difficulty when compared to the world so the IS is finding dumb ways to encourage them to have higher difficulty. I honestly think giving a financial bonus to the men and women with the highest difficulty might be a better option imo.
The bonuses are to incentivize more difficult skills because US men's gymnastics is well below the top D scores at Olympics and worlds. The bonus is so that the gymnast can risk those skills without fear of low scores keeping them off the US team ( i.e. funding) . Last year was the first year they did it so who knows how long it will take for that to make a difference.
@@joyfuljaj yeah they should definitely just pay them.
could someone please explain all of the bonus points?
It’s a system USAG uses in domestic competitions in order the reward difficulty
Hi there , some of those are “connection values” Gymnasts can earn these bonuses by performing certain skills in connection with each other. These extra tenths can help cushion the blow of deductions for small form breaks and stepping out of bounds with one foot.
@@tylermaclean3886you’re saying it’s just USAG?
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Yes
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Why are scores inflated? Esp vault.
USA is giving bonuses for harder skills and routines as incentives to perform harder skills so that we can compete with china japan russia for a world medal
Brandon's high bar was a fun watch, albeit scary at times, but that girl screaming hoarsely the whole time sure was annoying
Pretty sure that wasn't a girl. There were a lot of young male gymnasts there who've been to the Stanford camps cheering for them.
@@joyfuljaj THE ENDLESS SCREAMING NEEDS TO STOP
good to see the men not all looking they are ready for a Mr. universe muscle contest. that seemed to be the trend for USA the last decade. what happened , they failed for the most part as a team.
it's weird how women have to add all these weird little dance elements between skills but men don't
Not very many men would look right if they were dancing in their floor routines honestly. More of them thank you think lack rhythm and fluidity in dance. Probably because they don’t train in it, but still
They are different sports. MAG focuses more on controlled landing (which is relatively boring compared to WAG).
@@hazelnutspred3348What an ironically sexist view.
@@cocoroni1031”Different sports” is not an excuse for enforcing different gender roles under a sports OF THE EXACT SAME NAME lmao. It’s not like the men’s named “athletic gymnastics.” It’s the same essential umbrella sport with the same apparatus. Don’t use the “different sports” card to hand wave away the discrepancies in artistry.
@@bagelized Yes, they are different sports with origin. Artistry in MAG is defined by strength and precision from the COP. As I said, MAG is lacking performance factor to attract audience.
And dance elements are clearly NOT "weird little dance elements".
Just not seeing still on the world stage! Flexed feet over shooting handstands. Just not there yet and until they do an overhaul of mens gymnastics it wont be. The parkour tumbling is not cute either
What do you mean by parkour tumbling? And how can it be overhauled? Not being argumentative, just interested in thoughts from someone who appears to have thought about it. There isn't much conversation about men's gymnastics in the US. With the popularity of so many other sports for men in the US I really don't see a way for major change. I certainly don't expect the US men to ever be like the women on the world stage, but maybe I'm too cynical.
@@joyfuljajthe men were actually really close to bronze last year at worlds, they just choked at the event finals
@@hazelnutspred3348 Unfortunately, the USA MAG often lost consistency in finals. They hit when they didn't have enough difficulty to challenge for medals.
Genuinely curious, when speaking of parkour tumbling, is this in reference to the sort of forward round off to get into front tumbling? If so, I’d look to the Japanese team for that popularity. I believe they’re the ones who’ve utilized that more than anyone (and maybe did first), and they’re currently ranked #1 in the world! So I don’t really see it as a problem. Definitely unorthodox, but it seems to be advantageous for forward twisting elements as it’s a trend that’s catching on all over the world.
@@hazelnutspred3348I knew they were close and that they struggled at event finals. Also seems they were frustrated with not getting credit for some skills. The coverage I watch didn't show very many of the routines I guess because they did poorly on their first event I think it was. I saw their struggles own pommel horse but then it seemed like every team struggled on pommel horse. It just seems unfortunate that they started off on that event. I really do think they just need to keep working on what they're doing. We're not going to see a change instantly by asking them to do more difficult gymnastics. I hope this year's World team and next year's Olympic team will be able to put together a performance they can be proud of whether they medal or not.