As an instructor I teach it as PHAC.. the controller is going to give you your POSITION, HEADING, ALTITUDE, and CLEARANCE.. and the pilot only needs to respond with the HAC portion.. HEADING, ALTITUDE, and CLEARANCE.. I feel like that helps a lot of students especially when you know pretty much what approach you’re getting cleared for 🤙🏻
I have been flying off and on (plus military) for over 37 years and I always look forward to your videos and clear explanation of the topic being provided. The context of your videos, your knowledge of the airspace system and explanations you provide are top notch and provide a wealth of information . You are helping to make flying safer and more enjoyable. Please continue to make these videos, thank you!
I love your videos. I am a subscriber. I learn a lot from you, and I'm sure you like feedback. Here's mine. One little thing that always bugs me with experienced pilots who think it's unnecessary to speak plainly when reading back instructions. In your video I hear you read back the instructions reasonably well but mumble your call sign, like at 5:40 , "one two one point zero, thanks for everything, thrfa'teh." I know controllers get used to this and in context be satisfied that they know who you are. This controller is satisfied,. He knows who did the read back... or does he? Maybe it's not three four hotel. Maybe it's two five delta. Isn't your identity just as important as your acknowledgement of the instruction? Your videos are the best. Thanks.
Great videos, been enjoying your clear, concise way of explaining IFR. Two comments. When ever I make a head change I move the heading bug to that heading and if the GTN650 is telling me that in 10 seconds I'm changing to a new heading, I move the bug before I turn. Also, the 650 will pop up a message telling you to bug your NAV 1 to the current heading. Noticed that you weren't doing that each time.
Hello. The bottom line is safety. Safety from terrain, safety from noise sensitive areas, and safe separation from other aircraft, which you may not be visual with. See it as an opportunity to practice in good weather , an ILS approach , for the day when the weather is marginal, or rapidly deteriorating. You may have a fantastic view of the field, say downwind, but when you turn finals , the sun is low in the sky and or reflecting off water and you find yourself blinded. I hope that helps.
@@gilhadanimusic7494 I’m retired now, and yes, visual approaches are a valuable skill, but not your only skill. My international line check into Faro , on the DC9 a long time ago, took the form of the offer of a visual approach. Vectored to the overhead then offered a visual approach….that’s what ATC wanted !!….and obviously we had a fantastic view of the field. Turning downwind and base no problemo, but as I turned finals all I could see was the dazzle of the low sun, reflecting off the flat calm sea. Fortunately the training captain , who had been immediately up for accepting the offer of the visual approach, ( we were not carrying a massive reserve of fuel ) talked me around the “corner” and shortly after the dazzle ended, and all was well. So great care is required accepting a visual approach, and sometimes “negative” to ATC is the best/safer option.
Use your HDG bug and KAP140 Altitude alert function by selecting altitudes you're climbing/descending to even if you're not using the autopilot itself.
Who where you talking for ATC in a Simulator? Does the Sim have an ATC feature that make those calls and likewise sound so real? Or was it another real person?
It's a network called VATSim. It's all volunteers acting as controllers that you can connect with through your flight sim. It's a great training aid and they hold themselves to very high standards.
I have a questions. SSHOE is FAF (at or above 2,500ft), in this case the approach should've said "Descend and maintain 2,500ft until SSHOE established" because 'established' means that when I got a half deflection of LOC. and also for the ILS the FAF point is when I got intercepting glide slope (the ball is centered), in this case approach should say "Descend and maintain 2,500ft until intercept Glide Slope" I'm wondering why a lot of approaches say "maintain specific altitude until established on the LOC" so that means even if I haven't reached out the FAWP I can descend down to the minimum as long as I've gotten a half deflection on the localizer.
These are the best and calm aviation instruction videos I have ever seen! Thank you! I have a technical question though, before you contact Tower for the ILS establishment, do you need to get ATIS and report to tower your distance, altitude, and let them know that you have information Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, etc...? Or can you just report to Tower without that extra information? I don't know for sure.
3,000 feet. Basically probably has to do with windage is what I'm thinking. And it can take you less time to get to the 2500 from the 3000. 030-050. 353 degrees
What do you use to get the controllers on the flight sim? I don't use MSFS, I use Prepar3D still (I know I'm old school), but I'm always looking for ways to get realistic ATC communications for practicing for real life. (AI ATC doesn't quite cut it.)
I had no idea what Vatsim was. So, is the ATC voice actual human playing ATC on the flight sim network ? That'll be awesome. Are there enough ATCs covering the whole area and don't some have no idea what they are doing ?
@@turboromy VATSIM is an all volunteer, world-wide organization that provides ATC service to virtual pilots. Not all areas are covered equally, but If you're willing to be a bit flexible in where and when you fly, you can talk to ATC all the way from getting your clearance to parking at your destination. The virtual controllers all go through a rigorous training process before they are qualified to get behind the scope, based on real world procedures. For example, in the US training is based upon the FAA Air Traffic Control Manual, 7110.65. Do some mistakes get made? Sure. There are also some "VATSIM-isms" that reflect the inability of the network to completely emulate the real world system. But as you heard on the video, they strive to be as close as possible to the real thing. There are many controllers who stream on UA-cam or other services, if you'd like to see the process from their perspective!
@@warrenmadden2586 Wonderful world of internet and online games. Are ATCs in VATSIM hoping and practicing to become ATC in real world ? This should be something I should dig. Wondering what happens if a pilot completely disregard rules like not contacting approach before entering controlled airspace ? Thanks for the info.
@@turboromy From what I understand some are indeed hoping to become real world controllers. To fly on the VATSIM network, pilots must agree to abide by a code of conduct which includes following controller instructions. If a pilot is not responding/following instructions, controllers will reach out to a supervisor to contact the pilot and try to resolve the situation. It could be lack of experience, technical problems or someone getting called away from their sim unexpectedly (though they should disconnect from the network in that case). But in the rare cases where someone is deliberately disrupting virtual flying operations, the supervisor can terminate their connection. Such deliberate griefing would also likely result in a temporary or even permanent revoking of their VATSIM membership.
Hey! The correct phraseology would be “cleared ILS runway three-six approach.” You wouldn’t see “to” or “for” in the standard phraseology. You can be told to proceed direct “to” a fix on the approach as part of your clearance. That being said non standard phraseology is sometimes used so it wouldn’t be out of the question to hear something different, but it should have the same meaning.
Flightinsight....how/where did you get the capability to have actual voice communication? This is the only thing holding me back from getting a sim. It adds so much realism and to me, is more challenging. I just received my PP and will be pursuing high performance and then my IFR ticket. Please keep these vids coming! Thanks
I was intimidated by VATSim for years. Just started with it a few weeks back and was shocked how easy it was. Took me a little over an hour to get everything set up. Of course there’s still a lot for me to learn. Great training tool though
Just don't be afraid to make mistakes. As a VATSIM controller, we want to help new pilots learn! Just make sure you have a comment in your flight plan so we know that you're new :) A tip I would give is to start with VFR instead of IFR because communications are simpler, just learn your airspace! VATSIM has great resources in their pilot training pages for this.
@@DanielDuhon started using VATSIM last week and love the added challenge to help practice for IRL GA flying! Thank you for volunteering on the network! Most controllers have been great! I did run into one operating center in Hawaii last weekend that was sarcastic and unprofessional instead of teaching me what I did wrong. As a real world pilot the top down method caught me off guard when the map didn't indicate that someone was still controlling the ground. What do you recommend when someone runs into that type of situation? A negative experience could deter someone from coming back.
Since you’re doing an instructional video you should focus on good ICAO ATC phraseology … so not “down to 3”… you repeat back “Descend to 3000, 9334H” … truth be told I get lazy all the time, unless flying in international airspace where the foreign accents can really mess things up if you don’t use standard phrasology.
Also when checking in with the tower, you technically only need to provide your callsign, many pilots including very experienced airline pilots don’t understand this.
As an instructor I teach it as PHAC.. the controller is going to give you your POSITION, HEADING, ALTITUDE, and CLEARANCE.. and the pilot only needs to respond with the HAC portion.. HEADING, ALTITUDE, and CLEARANCE.. I feel like that helps a lot of students especially when you know pretty much what approach you’re getting cleared for 🤙🏻
I have been flying off and on (plus military) for over 37 years and I always look forward to your videos and clear explanation of the topic being provided. The context of your videos, your knowledge of the airspace system and explanations you provide are top notch and provide a wealth of information . You are helping to make flying safer and more enjoyable. Please continue to make these videos, thank you!
Dude, you're amazing. Thank you for making these videos!
You’re most welcome. More videos are always coming!
That was great. I'm in Austin. More,More, Can't wait till Tuesday.
Are all the controllers in Texas English? Lol
Love the simple clear information. Thank you!
I love your videos. I am a subscriber. I learn a lot from you, and I'm sure you like feedback. Here's mine. One little thing that always bugs me with experienced pilots who think it's unnecessary to speak plainly when reading back instructions. In your video I hear you read back the instructions reasonably well but mumble your call sign, like at 5:40 , "one two one point zero, thanks for everything, thrfa'teh." I know controllers get used to this and in context be satisfied that they know who you are. This controller is satisfied,. He knows who did the read back... or does he? Maybe it's not three four hotel. Maybe it's two five delta. Isn't your identity just as important as your acknowledgement of the instruction? Your videos are the best. Thanks.
Great! Clear and concise for students! Really, much thanks for your breakdown of the basic procedure. 👍
Your videos are very helpful as flight dispatcher I enjoy watching yours
Great videos, been enjoying your clear, concise way of explaining IFR. Two comments. When ever I make a head change I move the heading bug to that heading and if the GTN650 is telling me that in 10 seconds I'm changing to a new heading, I move the bug before I turn. Also, the 650 will pop up a message telling you to bug your NAV 1 to the current heading. Noticed that you weren't doing that each time.
These videos are amazing! Love the msfs visualization
Fantastic video, thank you for your teaching!
Why do you need or choose an ILS landing if you have visual aproch?
Hello. The bottom line is safety. Safety from terrain, safety from noise sensitive areas, and safe separation from other aircraft, which you may not be visual with. See it as an opportunity to practice in good weather , an ILS approach , for the day when the weather is marginal, or rapidly deteriorating. You may have a fantastic view of the field, say downwind, but when you turn finals , the sun is low in the sky and or reflecting off water and you find yourself blinded. I hope that helps.
@@californiadreamin8423 Yes, Thnx!
@@gilhadanimusic7494 I’m retired now, and yes, visual approaches are a valuable skill, but not your only skill. My international line check into Faro , on the DC9 a long time ago, took the form of the offer of a visual approach. Vectored to the overhead then offered a visual approach….that’s what ATC wanted !!….and obviously we had a fantastic view of the field. Turning downwind and base no problemo, but as I turned finals all I could see was the dazzle of the low sun, reflecting off the flat calm sea. Fortunately the training captain , who had been immediately up for accepting the offer of the visual approach, ( we were not carrying a massive reserve of fuel ) talked me around the “corner” and shortly after the dazzle ended, and all was well.
So great care is required accepting a visual approach, and sometimes “negative” to ATC is the best/safer option.
Another awesome video. What service are you using for the ATC?
Incase you haven’t figured it out, it’s vatsim tons of fun but pc only
Texan controller with a British accent cracks me up
Naw... Just a Texan that is always on Z time 😂
gonna get your CFII rating in no time, assuming you don't already have it.
Now lets get in to that CFII stuff. Spin recovery and such :D
Wow….great video!
Amazing video class!
Use your HDG bug and KAP140 Altitude alert function by selecting altitudes you're climbing/descending to even if you're not using the autopilot itself.
Who where you talking for ATC in a Simulator? Does the Sim have an ATC feature that make those calls and likewise sound so real? Or was it another real person?
It's a network called VATSim. It's all volunteers acting as controllers that you can connect with through your flight sim. It's a great training aid and they hold themselves to very high standards.
@@flightinsight9111 How coooool :D Thats actually really nice ^^
welcome to Austin!!!
That’s awesome
I just got my MSFT 2020
How did you get setup to talk with an ATC for the simulator
I have a questions.
SSHOE is FAF (at or above 2,500ft), in this case the approach should've said "Descend and maintain 2,500ft until SSHOE established" because 'established' means that when I got a half deflection of LOC.
and also for the ILS the FAF point is when I got intercepting glide slope (the ball is centered), in this case approach should say "Descend and maintain 2,500ft until intercept Glide Slope"
I'm wondering why a lot of approaches say "maintain specific altitude until established on the LOC" so that means even if I haven't reached out the FAWP I can descend down to the minimum as long as I've gotten a half deflection on the localizer.
These are the best and calm aviation instruction videos I have ever seen! Thank you! I have a technical question though, before you contact Tower for the ILS establishment, do you need to get ATIS and report to tower your distance, altitude, and let them know that you have information Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, etc...? Or can you just report to Tower without that extra information? I don't know for sure.
Thank you very much!
Great videoooooo. Love youuuuu
Also, what program are you using for simulation practice? I really Like it! 🙂
Which ATC add-on used for this sim, the voice sounds very natural.
Great info!
Can you make a Video where a atc Controller is vectoring you through the air?
That’s a great idea. Stay tuned should be able to get that in a week or two
The first set of the last two being the coordinates and the secondary being the azmuth angle. And I'm just guessing.
Is that microsoft flight similator ?
3,000 feet. Basically probably has to do with windage is what I'm thinking. And it can take you less time to get to the 2500 from the 3000. 030-050. 353 degrees
What do you use to get the controllers on the flight sim? I don't use MSFS, I use Prepar3D still (I know I'm old school), but I'm always looking for ways to get realistic ATC communications for practicing for real life. (AI ATC doesn't quite cut it.)
i believe its VATSIM
Curiosity last waypoint?
very good thankyou
What software you using?
Hey, Really nice video. Is this Vatsim??
Thanks! It certainly is. Terrific controllers make for a great training environment.
I had no idea what Vatsim was. So, is the ATC voice actual human playing ATC on the flight sim network ? That'll be awesome. Are there enough ATCs covering the whole area and don't some have no idea what they are doing ?
@@turboromy VATSIM is an all volunteer, world-wide organization that provides ATC service to virtual pilots. Not all areas are covered equally, but If you're willing to be a bit flexible in where and when you fly, you can talk to ATC all the way from getting your clearance to parking at your destination. The virtual controllers all go through a rigorous training process before they are qualified to get behind the scope, based on real world procedures. For example, in the US training is based upon the FAA Air Traffic Control Manual, 7110.65. Do some mistakes get made? Sure. There are also some "VATSIM-isms" that reflect the inability of the network to completely emulate the real world system. But as you heard on the video, they strive to be as close as possible to the real thing. There are many controllers who stream on UA-cam or other services, if you'd like to see the process from their perspective!
@@warrenmadden2586 Wonderful world of internet and online games. Are ATCs in VATSIM hoping and practicing to become ATC in real world ? This should be something I should dig. Wondering what happens if a pilot completely disregard rules like not contacting approach before entering controlled airspace ? Thanks for the info.
@@turboromy From what I understand some are indeed hoping to become real world controllers. To fly on the VATSIM network, pilots must agree to abide by a code of conduct which includes following controller instructions. If a pilot is not responding/following instructions, controllers will reach out to a supervisor to contact the pilot and try to resolve the situation. It could be lack of experience, technical problems or someone getting called away from their sim unexpectedly (though they should disconnect from the network in that case). But in the rare cases where someone is deliberately disrupting virtual flying operations, the supervisor can terminate their connection. Such deliberate griefing would also likely result in a temporary or even permanent revoking of their VATSIM membership.
Descend at 353 degrees. That's what I saw on the map anyway 353 degrees wind up with the runway lined up
Is cleared TO the ILS also acceptable as Cleraed FOR the approach:? Can anybody help me to clear up this question? Thanks?
I mean CLEARED...
Hey! The correct phraseology would be “cleared ILS runway three-six approach.” You wouldn’t see “to” or “for” in the standard phraseology. You can be told to proceed direct “to” a fix on the approach as part of your clearance. That being said non standard phraseology is sometimes used so it wouldn’t be out of the question to hear something different, but it should have the same meaning.
@@flightinsight9111 Thanks a lot, friend! A heard many times Cleared FOR the ILS approach on RWY… thanks, anyhow!
Final left to approach three six right. Last waypoint I would imagine
should have shown the full landing
Is this ATC from VATsim?
Flightinsight....how/where did you get the capability to have actual voice communication? This is the only thing holding me back from getting a sim. It adds so much realism and to me, is more challenging. I just received my PP and will be pursuing high performance and then my IFR ticket. Please keep these vids coming! Thanks
Most likely using Vatsim
Looks and sounds like VAT sim, I haven't tried it yet...to scared :(
I was intimidated by VATSim for years. Just started with it a few weeks back and was shocked how easy it was. Took me a little over an hour to get everything set up. Of course there’s still a lot for me to learn. Great training tool though
Just don't be afraid to make mistakes. As a VATSIM controller, we want to help new pilots learn! Just make sure you have a comment in your flight plan so we know that you're new :) A tip I would give is to start with VFR instead of IFR because communications are simpler, just learn your airspace! VATSIM has great resources in their pilot training pages for this.
@@DanielDuhon started using VATSIM last week and love the added challenge to help practice for IRL GA flying! Thank you for volunteering on the network! Most controllers have been great! I did run into one operating center in Hawaii last weekend that was sarcastic and unprofessional instead of teaching me what I did wrong. As a real world pilot the top down method caught me off guard when the map didn't indicate that someone was still controlling the ground. What do you recommend when someone runs into that type of situation? A negative experience could deter someone from coming back.
Three 6 right east to west west to east north to south south north are the odds
Controller sounds like someone from VATUK
This guy sounds like an English (UK) controller rather than a Texas accent lol, also the phraseology was a bit interesting
Since you’re doing an instructional video you should focus on good ICAO ATC phraseology … so not “down to 3”… you repeat back “Descend to 3000, 9334H” … truth be told I get lazy all the time, unless flying in international airspace where the foreign accents can really mess things up if you don’t use standard phrasology.
Also when checking in with the tower, you technically only need to provide your callsign, many pilots including very experienced airline pilots don’t understand this.
Folks who fly daily keep it short n simple ( 135 types) on their regular routes...controller's kno these folks...