Outlaw Biker Clubs Update
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2022
- We break down the latest news on 1% biker clubs. For example, we discuss conflict between the Outlaws MC and Mongols in Chicago, biker violence in Tennessee, and legal problems for the Pagans in Providence, RI.
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I am an old farmer and have encountered quite a few 1% ers in my life. They are no threat to anyone who is friendly, not too nosey and respectful. Infact they will often visit with an old farmer.
Unless there's an opportunity for them ... then all bets are off. Friends become targets... everything is about money and power.... keep living in your dillusions
Outlaws and Angles are in talks right now about a truce in Michigan
I've been wrenching, building, and riding for 51yrs this year, all of them as a loner.
I tried on a couple of clubs decades ago, but none of them were close enough to my standards to allow them to join me.
New follower of the show came here from Nadu’s pod idk how I didn’t stumble on this podcast sooner 🔥🤯 Awesome work guys 🙌
Love this podcast love to listen to while I'm at work
There is two sides to every story. Then there is the truth. Been a 1% for a long time. Not club active any more but still a 1% and that will never change.
Great stuff as always!!
I love the podcast btw……. This past summer I saw a group of Pagans in the Humboldt Park neighborhood in Chicago. Never seen them before they were just hanging out having some drinks and food in the park
Yeah Pagans have Rican members on the East Coast ...Makes sense
@@Count_Apollyon5 facts. Big in Philly. I guess it’s over turf. Like how the Chicago mobs have territories
@@thenotoriousvlog5986 If you been out here in the land ...it's not surprising . .. An Certain demographic deems the old guard weak.
Scott Bernstein likes to always place Detroit on par with Chicago. I stopped this video early, but I'm sure he failed to mention this. Wisconsin is 100% Outlaws territory. Why? Well... whites will have loyalty to the Outlaws in Wisconsin no doubt due in no small part to tradition. The other reason is any other 1% white (or Latino Mongol club) biker club *openly* wearing their patched jackets here will eventually get killed in Wisconsin if they don't flee first. And the Hells Angels did for a very brief moment try to set up openly in Wisconsin as they had conquered territory in Chicago from the Chicagoans (Outlaws).
The State Line Chapter of the Wisconsin Outlaws were heavily involved in helping Illinois fight the Hells Angeles inside Illinois. That was back when--several years ago (maybe over 10 years ago)--the FBI not only brought down indictments on the State Line Wisconsin chapter but claimed its leader was the most feared 1% biker in the country. I doubt the latter as I think the FBI tends to over-hype *individuals* at times to paint images and win cases. He did use shooting and/or killing people as gang-style initiation rites, I got the impression from one associate of the Milwaukee chapter that the Milwaukee chapter did not approve of that practice within the State Line Chapter. I may be using some terms or chapter names incorrectly as I'm not a biker nor groomed into biker "culture." On a sidebar note: if--I say if!--Detroit has real Crip or Bloods presence, Scott should make note Milwaukee does not. This is loyal black Chicago origins gangs like the GD's, VL's, Black P Stones. The Crips and Bloods back in the early to mid '90s TRIED to gain a openly represented foothold here. That lasted a hot second. They do have members here as INDIVIDUALS like a fish out of water, that is it. So, if Detroit has EVERY NATION of crime outfits fly flags in Detroit that to me is akin to say... a weak a$$ USA that would have every country on Earth opening their own MILITARY BASES on mainland USA soil, including Russia and Iran having their own separate military bases inside the USA. So, miss me with this "capital" sh$t. Detroit is a legend in its own mind. Homicidal and economically broke as f__k mind you by looks of whole residential blocks evacuated and falling apart.
There probably just visiting unless there patches said there residing in Illinois.
Solid Talk and insight of the world from the other side of the fence 🔶
Soul sister , soul brother , soul sister , he met me down in old new Orleans
Can't believe people who are not and never have been in the life think they have the right to talk about any of it. Cop's never tell the truth. So much yall don't know but think you do funny sad and disrespectful.
I wonder sometimes if these boys even ride at all
It's the media bro and SOA did no one any favors except harley davidson.
Facts
And clearly mis speaking
Cops lie about us to pad their budgets. They have been s-T talking, setting up, entrapping Patcholders and instigating, trying to criminalize entire Clubs for individual members actions. They F’n set Conan up period. End of story.
Thanks from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Great information thanks
Some people just love to hear themselves talk...this is them!🤐
Fall River was the first chapter in New England for the Pagans MC
Great show and another great metal shirt!
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Great Podcast. Guys I am seeing a lot of expansion of both Mongols and Pagans in the Tampa bay area. Can you talk about the east coast and or specifically Florida if possible. I would love to hear anything you have for info on this area.
Pagans have had a chapter there for a long time. I don't do social media so if you want info contact me directly
@@whiplash7186 does their bottom rocker still say East Coast on it?
@@slickslim74 Do what? Didn't understand one word you said
What do you want to know gamckp?
Congrats on your success. Respect. Minneapolis Minnesota proud
Awesome! Thank you!
Outlaws have been in Mass since the 90s. My Uncle's (RIP) former club was patched over when I was in elementary school and I'm almost 39. The Brockton Chapter had a bunch of raids in the mid 00s. Members of the the hardcore gang FSU started joining the Outlaws in the early 00s.
How did that work out them being straight edge and Outlaws doing what they do...FSU we're militant edge out of buffalo
@@bittercombatvet7501 A good percentage of the young Outlaws today are straight edge hardcore guys
I know nothing about the Outlaws MC personally, never been in their footprint either. But I have more friends and old and ex brothers currently serving FCI time. In another big 4 Nation. I really don't want to share. But I'll talk hardcore and straightedge all day. I'm 2 weeks clean off methadone, and 3 years off everything else. Young guys need to say less, hang around more, and be vetted harder. Things aren't the same nowadays. I just came off papers 2 months ago...
Your uncle must have been a member of the Nomads mc.
@@bittercombatvet7501 why so bitter ? U know angels in Federal lockup , don't u ? 😎🚬💰💵💵🥃
Great stuff guys 💯..seems like the more that the big 4/5 patch over and J.V all these other groups... Inherently more dangerous
The Pagans tried to open up in Los Angeles and that charter got shut down. As for the Outlaws I've known different bikers from clubs that hated Outlaws but the one thing I've heard them all say the Outlaws MC is by far the worst club to be at war with. Love the biker news.
If the Pagan's tried to start a chapter in L.A. then there would absolutely be a chapter in L.A. point is that NOBODY can "shut them down"
@@1cugine359 it got shut down, I'm 1 million percent sure of this. By shut down it doesn't mean by force could be a club decision and by LA I don't mean Louisiana I meant Los Angeles California.
@@1cugine359: if u say so.
Correct
@@1cugine359 I will
Tension? Cmon we just like to play rough...ain't no Tension.
Clubs have gotten too big and have spread out too much! I grew up inside a 1% club on the east coast. When I was a kid I knew or met just about every member at family functions, parties, or runs. Now I'm 46 and still live around many members and I don't know any of them Including the members being featured on the news.
I've personally seen many members of a particular club in my area that have never ever been in this area and it's surprising to see them riding around freely
Same in east TN
@@Salty_Vet_06 I'm in Philly/South Jersey
There's an outlaw clubhouse in my small city and I've seen them riding once in the ten years iv been here. Guess some club houses rarely get used
First time seeing y’all on UA-cam! Long time podcast listener here. Nice work fellas, I love what you’re doing! Especially the MC stuff you’ve been talking about. Just finished a new book “Riding with Evil”. Written by Ken Croke, an ATF that infiltrated the Pagans. It’d be cool if you guys had him on the show!
Amazing book I just finished it this past Saturday.
Allgood instructed Ramsey to lower his weapon and settle down. He then turned to Tablack and started screaming at him for provoking the dustup in the first place. The shootout was sparked when Allgood grabbed Tablack by the shirt collar and Tablack, still wearing his helmet, head-butted Allgood in retaliation,
Craft, 39, was arrested near the scene of the shooting on his motorcycle with one of the murder weapons on his possession. Davis, 32, was brought into custody at the Outlaws clubhouse. All four participants in the shootout were U.S. military veterans and had tactical gun training. The 28-year old Tablack was shot in in the exchange and arrested at the hospital.
Please spend more time on this topic.
We hope every club does well we know who the real enemy is.
People need to learn from the past, good and bad. Back when I started riding(1975)it was more about Freedom, and brotherhood. But now its wantabe thugs, and gang mentality. Now, I don't care if its Blue line, MC or Mafia, its just guys who can't stand alone. I still ride, where I want, when I want, with who I want.
New Sub guys. Keep up the great work!!!
I’ve seen both mongols and pagans on separate occasions at biker clubhouses in Brooklyn ny you guys know anything about that?
30/40 pagans spotted in Aurora IL with fresh pristine Illinois patches late October.
I’m from Fall River Massachusetts. In 2018 outlaws moved right in the flint and set up shop. I’m 41 and my whole life H.A and sidewinders ran this territory. It’s only going to get worse
Support your local Red And White.
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First time listening … first I enjoy the content ! And good job guys I will subscribe… but I will say , I have no knowledge of the other state specific events mentioned but the Clarksville Tn event info you received was all wrong !
Would love to hear your opinion on the NC expansion.
Great show men,Here is my take on why the M.C.'s are having more encounters with each other and law enforcement.That a lot of Clubs are being infiltrated by undercover police and informants on a bigger scale than ever.These people are selling the Clubs,drugs,guns etc.,but at the same time inciting violence and getting the Clubs to clash with each other,and then coming in and busting them.Same old tactics,the Feds use on people in their daily lives,if they can't get you on credible charges,they will lie to Judges,Juries and the Media,RESULTING IN THE CONVICTIONS OF MANY INNOCENT FOLKS,CAUGHT UP IN THE ZEAL OF A CORRUPT LAW ENFORCEMENT.I say the Feds are the real bad folks in these matters.The M.C.'s are who they are ,but law enforcement on the other hand who portray themselves as good guys,protecting the innocent and weak,when in reality they are tyrants,they break laws,and they violate peoples Constitutional Rights as if they make the rules,and the laws.In my opinion,law enforcement is trying to start wars among the top 1%er Clubs,just like our government and military leaders try to start wars in other countries,all for profit and power.
Facts
@@mongolsmffm4829 Ride Free 13
it's hopeful more folks realize this, we got a screwed up government. They keep things stirred up between blacks and whites, bike clubs, street gangs because they know if we stood together they couldnt stop us. I'm old and done anyway but the younger folks need to figure this out
Just like the feds giving Greg the grim reaper a license to kill which in turn leads to the Colombo wars and a lot of arrests there after
Not all cops are like that.. just like in mc clubs there are bad elements and good. Most clubs are full of great guys but there are the ones who bring the name down with alot of bad things. Just like the bad cops.. but you can't label all cops bad
Brockton is between ri and Boston, fallriver borders ri and is a port city
Great Show! The alliances are changing WORLDWIDE……..I would love to hear your take on the Black/African American 1% clubs and their history/ alliances/ major cases……..That world and it’s alliances are changing as well…..I’m seeing a lot more bottom rockers on newer 🎉MCs cuts than ever before…..Things are shifting for sure……Keep up the great work Guys!!!
Yeah ,stop ruining Harley’s
Black clubs are copy cats who couldn't get into real white clubs. They're a joke "thug riderz" and "rough riderz" 😂😂😂
@@thomasshoe92tell'em aye!
In Australia the Mongols & Outlaws are friends as they both hate HAs, but HAs are not well liked by alot of clubs in Australia.
australia is diferent they crazy toby from mongols is not the president now is some guy name the knife
@@sergioramos7997 Toby Mitchell was never the National pres just state pres, nick the knife always been national president of all Mongols in Australia. But Toby booted for dishounering his brothers in prison and hangn out with a snitch thinking he was above club policy.
@@kendelsailor3499orale!! ✊🏽
You need to get your facts straight.. Nonsense!! SYLO⚫️⚪️ and The OUTSIDERS 🤘🏻🤘🏻 100% FOREVER
I remember working with this dude years ago we went into this bar me and my boss the pagans had just lost a member but crazy that there was about 30 of them and couldn't come up with the money for the deuce funeral I remember my boss signing $8,000 check which is handing it out to the leader or one of the leaders cool ass dudes though and we did walk out with some Shirts Mugs and stuff they had but now they are up in numbers and have their Club more or situated with financial things they need to do
Walk out with shirts and mugs? Losers stop sucking up be a man did you finish you light beer ?the bros couldn't afford his death losers that's a brotherhood?!?! Way too funny.
We don't want those many aspects and or issues brought out in the open so let's get these older heads out here cleaning up the mistakes that have occurred
Pagens opened a chapter in flint I believe last summer
Its funny you guys did mention Tennessee and clubs expanding, the angels just setup a new charter in Tennessee themselves I believe in the east of Tennessee. Tennessee is a known Outlaw area as well. Great podcast again, love the content!
I think the day is coming when they will sit at the same table
“You believe “
@@davidnelson6363 Yea, according to their instagram unless they are providing false information about their location of the charter, which I highly doubt. 😂
@@morganW2012 wish it would happen but it's definitely not happening anytime soon coming from the truth I'm in a support club for a big 1% club not saying who but trust me not happening
Just south of Nashville.
Sick Napalm Death shirt🤘🏻
You guys should get Mel Chancey or that former ATF agent Lou Valoze on your show. Lou worked undercover in biker gangs and also did some stuff with the Chicago Outfit.
So wich side of the fence are you on?
Talking about, is NOT the same as BEING about.
No one needs spectator(s), & damn sure, NOT Feds, who want to live out a fantasy life with tax dollar provided lures.
MCs not gangs!!
In Australia half the Bandidos mc patched over to the Mongols. In New Zealand Bandidos mc and Hells Angels mc patched over to the Mongols mc
Wonder if Joseph little Jo Jo attorney used the Seinfeld “ Good Samaritan “ law episode in their strategy 🤣🤣
The outlaws are in Louisville and Knoxville,then in Cookeville Tennessee is the renegades
First time viewer. Did you mention that you attended a law enforcement conference? Are you a cop? I don't get it. Are you involved with the 1% community or LEO?
Just curious....
Detroits Watching you 😎
I wish the fighting would stop ...we all are fighting for our families ....
I’m just reading the comments w/o a “❤”
My uncle was an outlaw 1%’er brother….RIP uncle Jay.
sooner or later penguins and mungos are gonna turn on each other.
Do they use Drones for a new ride....
Scott it's not shoot to kill a self-defense or defense of other situation it shoot to stop the threat of imminent harm or death
I live in an area that is considered a Pagan stronghold and see these dudes out riding on a regular basis. Back in the 90’s I knew a dude who was their local Sargent At Arms. He “seemed” to be a good guy but for whatever reason he was murdered on Christmas Eve. It’s unclear if he was killed on orders from the club or for some other transgression. Rumors circulated that he may have been a police informant so that could’ve been the reason but who knows?
The Big Four Outlaw MC's are the Hells Angels, the Outlaws, the Bandidos, and the Pagans. I see Bandidos here in the Houston area all the time, they roll super deep here.
They say it's changed now, they say the big six, the Hells Angels, Mongols, Outlaws, Vagos, Bandidos, and Pagans. I love reading about this stuff.
Lmao you left us out? 🤣
Mongols , hells angles, bandidos,and outlaws are the big 4..pagans are top 10 but not as big as those 4. Vagos are actually bigger than pagans. But size doesn't mean the most dangerous. I've been fascinated by the outlaw mc club life, I've read all the books ect and the sons of silence have always been considered the most dangerous .
@@Calvinmob6886don't forget the sons of silence
No one's going to push the pagans on the east coast they are and always have been the force here don't see that changing anytime soon
Another great ones guys. It seems like you two are the best spot when it comes to bikers but I don’t have to listen to anyone saying bikers are todays cowboys of the freeways😂😂 lol. They drop all this rhetoric no one asks for.lol.
I would like to know their take on why the 1% are stepping away from COC
Subscribed
Saw multiple Hells Angels coming through Chattanooga TN just this week. They in Outlaw land.
Matter of fact it is the Clarksville chapter of outlaws in his video I believe
Did you not see what the bottom rocker said should of said Tennessee 🤘💯
@@jblittleton4065 honestly may have been? Didn’t catch the rocker patch designation? They had a car following them pretty close.
All interstates are open to all MC’s it’s when you get off the interstate and try to set up shop.
Pagans are there also.
Damn man Bams looking rough these days! 😮
There are charters of both pagen and mongols I believe in southern Illinois ....if your aligned with these clubs in other states why not in Illinois they allowed hells angels in rockford and the sons of silence have been rout 1 from Danville south it's seems to me that those two clubs would be a major concern not the two clubs you previously aligned there club with while they made expansions north south east and west
You are correct, and in Chicago.
pagans has chapter in texas
Nice napalm death tee😁👍🏻
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Pagans Holland Michigan
Clubs need to come together ,the real enemies are the government. Stop all the infighting. I am former club member and a 1%er always will be. After 50 years of fighting one club against another for what territory? Can you imagine how strong the big five would be ,if you could focus on brotherhood, your strength would be unstoppable. Keep the individual clubs but have a commission of sort to keep everyone moving forward. Think about it.
The OUTLAWS were founded 1935 in chago and so forth . Look up history guys and report it the way it go's...just saying
Agreed!! 15 ALWAYS
It was in McCook Illinois, they didn't come to Chi til the 50s
This is why I laugh when they say we’re not a gang. I could never defend myself or my club when people said “gang”.
No one's winning the war . We need to just come together
Thanks for sharing good podcast
What was the gang training for? and crime institute for like a college? Sorry i'm new to the channel and that just peak my interest. Is there jobs that aren't law enforcement that specialize in gangs and etc. I'm from Canada but this really peak my interest.
Send us a DM on IG, Twitter, or FB and I'll explain. Thank you for your interest and watching our pod
Y'all should do an episode about how Y'all don't really know anything and are catering to Sons Of Anarchy fans
competition report aka pagans PA
pagans always been allies with mongols pagans have chapters in california correctme if im wrong ,yes pagans allows latinos they have chapters in puerto rico and they have alotof latinos in new jersey chapters they groww significant,
The AOA was tight with the Mongols about 15 years ago, with their mutual war with the HA"s, but that has fallen apart. As far as the AOA aligning with the blacks, Taco must be rolling in his grave since he used to wear a cape with a big swastika on the back of it.
Support #81 Maine
It's a lot of tension brewing in my house with my nephew
I wish I can get away with something
Lmmmmaoff 😜
What about the Hell's Angels
And the largest MC in the world laughs themselves silly watching clubs that only pose a threat to them by alligning threatening war amongst themselves.
Mongols and Outlaws are world wide too, mongols along the Pacific are alot more powerful and aggressive then HAs.
If we all banded together...
Back in the day a club would have chapter's in surrounding states to their other chapter's to keep strong and have each other's backs . Very seldom would there be more than one 1%er club in a state . Now their multiple 1% clubs in the same state . They should go ahead and accept facts...if you share a state rocker , you might as well have dinner together..lmfao
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I said it was 8,000 check that my boss had wrote for them the pagans no it was a $1,000 check
Napalm Death ☠ love u guys keep up the great content guys
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The outlaws are big in western Pennsylvania
A real outlaw doesn't want any laws and rules or discipline....absolute freedom is what a real outlaw wants ..... After watching this video i am wondering why they called themselves so.... Because it only excists on club rules and obey that rules.....
29:20 he looks like Tuna From Blow haha
This page is too public. This goes out to anyone new or newish to a serious club. Posting were will probably get you disciplined, I can't speak for all. But I can speak from experience
Right.
Didn't mention the ambush of the OL by the P's in Knoxville....
You mean where the pagan got shot in the leg lmao how bout you mention how (baker 13) and all the pagans in nc told on Trouble in sc and both the cartels and the Haitians.?!???
@@bigjerz2018 I mean the one where the outlaw got ambushed. 616
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I'm from the Philly/Jersey area and my wife uncle was a pagan for about 30 years before he retired due to physical issues. But the Pagams have grown for sure, although this has ALWAYS been their stronghold area they definitely have more numbers now around. Also the Pagans and the Mongols have a definite alliance and that's because the Mongols helped push the Pagans west and the Pagans have helped bring the Mongols east. The Mongols now have a chapter in Pennsylvania & New Jersey I have even seen the two clubs together on a few occasions. I have NEVER seen a Hells Angel I heard they have a chapter in Newark but I have NEVER SEEN THEM even when I have spent time in Newark, with that said I've seen plenty of Pagans and now I have started to see a few Mongols.
You turned your hat on right
'Jus so strange that all these clubs that share so much in common, yet run 'round kickin tha shit outtve n' killing each other, due to differences of "corporate branding"...-And lets face it, thats EXACTLY what IT IS....
-Much like NASCAR, might as well have >PEPSID> "Coca-Cola" or Taco-Bell flash on all the members cuts?
"AwwwwShit! Tha Coke n' Pepsi boys are @ it AGAIN?! Katy, bar tha door, send tha tippy-tais to tha basement n' git me my shotgun!"
If all the conflicting parties were to be brand/cut free n' meet @ a bar w/o knowing each-other, their prior, or current affiliations, they'd most likely get along famously w/o issue?
-In the end, global institutionalized POVERTY w/a WELL corrupted financial system, rig'd up to primarily benefit the very wealthy is the true $ource of $uch conflicts....
-Great shows guys!...;)
Holy shit is that dude wearing a "Napalm Death" shirt!Man that takes me back,I could be wrong but I think it is.
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Brewing? You mean continuing. They all beef every couple of years. The cops were at OC bike week were all over excited, unnecessarily that a xouple of 81 showed up to place full mostly of 16. Nothing happened. Just a couple guys seeing friends. The feds are more worried about shit than the guys in the MC's are
Fall River, MA is such a dump
Good job fellas
Get a Canadian crime reporter. And cover the Canadian hells angels. That's enough content for years😂
Canadian law enforcement is as corrupt as ours.
Canadian,?
Please
THEY'RE AS CORRUPT AS THE COPS.MOMS' SHOWED HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE
@@berniemac4422 ?
@@berniemac4422 😂😂😎🤣
I have seen Pagans in mass now!81 is the main mc here.
If you know Say less' guys.
dont forget about ohio when you talk about mid-west ,mongols did a rally thru cleveland in 2019 knowing cleveland is 81 and some surrounding areas with outlaws in Akron- canton and other areas in ohio with pagans near warren-Youngstown and other areas in ohio