Easier for Lionel to mass produce with existing parts. They were not concerned with realism on these engines. Lionel only put realism at the forefront for the likes of the 700E hudson.
To squeeze around these 42 inch diameter curves. I just got a modern Lionel licensed MTH electronic reproduction for $2500 in eBay with baggage car two coaches and observation car.
You had to be a kid from a well off family to have a train set like this in the twenties and thirties; especially after 1929! Amazing how many were sold despite the depression.
I am a Lionel train collector, that engine is probably worth BIG BUCKS. it’s really hard near impossible too find the original Lionel tinplate 400e in this condition let alone at all.
The reason this is going down in value is that the generation that values toy trains is aging out. The center of the generation is boys who were 10 in 1950, when an electric train was the #1 Christmas present. That boy would be 80 in 2020-possibly deceased or having health problems, or at the very least downsizing and less likely to be amassing possessions. Hence, a gradually declining market for toy trains.
I've been trying to find this train for years. I'm not ready to pay that kind of cash. For most lionel collectors, I strongly recommend the "baby blue comet", or the O scale version of this set which is somewhat easier to find.
On the one hand, it's great that these old toys are valued, but on the other, I'm a bit sad as that train will likely never run again, and certainly no kid will get to play with it. I'm not trying to pooh-pooh collectors or anything like that, but I think the true value of these trains comes from the joy and pleasure they bring by doing what they were meant to, being run on a layout. You only get to live once, after all, and I'd rather have fun with my trains now than put them in a vault so my heirs can get rich off them. Just saying...
Shipwright1918 I totally agree with you! I know someone that has a 1935 Flying Yankee in such great shape he won’t even take it out of the box to show it to anyone let alone use it. I’m sure it’s beautiful but nobody will ever know unless he takes it out to at least show someone. While I can appreciate his wanting to preserve its condition, what good is it?! To each his own I suppose. I prefer to purchase ones that don’t have the box and are in nice shape. It keeps the price reasonable and I don’t have to worry too much about scratches and dings should they happen!
I love the trains I play with them more than videogames and while being a teen at this time is tough every one at school thinks its weird when I want to go home and work on my layout
@@matthewthemodelrailroader9497 You can learn many things & develop many skills as a model railroader. If your friends are not interested in the hobby, you can communicate with other high school age modelers on You Tube.
Misinformation on a few levels. No way $8000-$10,000....I own a set and paid less then $4000. Also, ALL Lionel standard and O gauge passenger car roofs were removable in the 20's and 30's. TV Hype!
What? A TV show using "props"? LOL. But, seriously, it looks like the producers of The Sopranos at least did some research to come up with a (possibly) valid price.
That's cute Elwood, but locomotive manufacturers in the 1800s did make scale models of steam locomotives that salesmen would show to railroad executives.
Her knowledge is extensive, but a company called the Carlisle & Finch Electric Novelty Company sold the 1st electric trains in 1896. Lionel started with 2&7/8 " gauge trains in 1901 & Standard Gauge in 1906.
Congratulations to the first family to the second family to their family and so on beyond that this is a very very of unique train set model just like the same one dad the doors open but no one have seen that the roof open by itself that the inside and there was a dog's right there for many passengers at people that did that well you see it but however time move on anyway but this is a 1 of the kind of well unique made in America since 1930 when the past today the future right now how it is credible everyone
Night Is Right - Lionel did make reproductions of Standard Gauge trains in the 1980s. Another company by the name of Mike's Train House also made reproductions of Standard Gauge trains.
And Rick from Pawn Stars goes like this:. Well last year at this time the market was hot and this was worth big bucks. But six months ago some old guy died who owned a warehouse full of these. The crazy guy had them under lock and for like 60 years. The family had a giant auction which eventually flooded the market. Now your train is worth next to nothing. I even got caught holding 2 of these. We keep one in the john ontop of the toilet tank. 90 bucks is all I can do. That's 20 for esch of the big cars and 10 dollas for the tank car... cuz I'm in a good mood today
Sadly model trains don't have much interest to younger people these days - the entire hobby is in a sad state ; I know a lot of shops have gone out of business - and internet only hobbies are tough for attracting new people. (Amateur radio is kind of in the same boat in the US, and let's not even bring up stamp collecting)
I heard the reason it is this way is because when the younger start out with their first starter set and want to buy more it's set at these overwhelming high prices. They may have money to buy a few DCC engines and a controller but not make a whole layout. This is why I'm trying to join that club.
What Steve Thomas doesn't realize that there are NO PREMIUM CONDITION Blue Comets available for anything near $3000 to $4000!! This set is only in C7 condition which is far from premium. I have 7 Blue Comet sets, all in like new to mint condition, all with inside and set boxes and the minimum value for any of these Superb examples is $20,000 plus!! It's all about condition, condition, condition to paraphrase the old real estate motto.
I just found one of these while I was cleaning out my grandparents house . Omg
I wish i was that lucky
Lies
@@eighteennakedcowboys why would they lie?
I have that train too!
I’m praying it’s being treated well, this is a bucket list set for all model enthusiasts like myself.
But no one filmed the real one!
The Blue Comet had a 4-6-2 "Pacific" wheel arrangement. I wonder why these models were made with a 4-4-4 arrangement?
Easier for Lionel to mass produce with existing parts. They were not concerned with realism on these engines. Lionel only put realism at the forefront for the likes of the 700E hudson.
I see. Thanks for replying.
To squeeze around these 42 inch diameter curves. I just got a modern Lionel licensed MTH electronic reproduction for $2500 in eBay with baggage car two coaches and observation car.
The actual, for real Temple car is still in existence. It is currently stored in southern New Jersey.
You had to be a kid from a well off family to have a train set like this in the twenties and thirties; especially after 1929! Amazing how many were sold despite the depression.
The depression was only for The Poors. Those with the means of controlling production made a lot of money off people's misfortune
@@tommypetraglia4688 *the slaves.
@@tommypetraglia4688 Very true. Just like whats happening now after the "Cares" act.
I am a Lionel train collector, that engine is probably worth BIG BUCKS. it’s really hard near impossible too find the original Lionel tinplate 400e in this condition let alone at all.
The reason this is going down in value is that the generation that values toy trains is aging out. The center of the generation is boys who were 10 in 1950, when an electric train was the #1 Christmas present. That boy would be 80 in 2020-possibly deceased or having health problems, or at the very least downsizing and less likely to be amassing possessions. Hence, a gradually declining market for toy trains.
Afraid so - old tinplate trains will have value just as antiques, like old toys. Museum stuff.
Rip bobby bacalla
Some Moe and Joe action...
Quasimoto predicted this
RIP Bobby Baccalieri
I was gonna say that's the train Bobby was tried to buy before he got whacked!
Poor guy is going to put in a closet , after he passes his kids going to rifle through and sell to the first buyer on Ebay .
‘ I imagine Atlantic City had a better class of people back then’
Yea. Decades before President Orange Shitstain built his bankrupt casinos there
This is the train set Bobby B was buying on Sopranos when he was killed in the Hobby Shop.
The baby one..not this one
No he was buying the O gauge version
I've been trying to find this train for years. I'm not ready to pay that kind of cash. For most lionel collectors, I strongly recommend the "baby blue comet", or the O scale version of this set which is somewhat easier to find.
lol same about trying to find the video. as for the blue comet, go big or go home lol
the wheels off the track in the front is really bothering me
Bobby Baccalieri Died for this train God bless you baby
On the one hand, it's great that these old toys are valued, but on the other, I'm a bit sad as that train will likely never run again, and certainly no kid will get to play with it.
I'm not trying to pooh-pooh collectors or anything like that, but I think the true value of these trains comes from the joy and pleasure they bring by doing what they were meant to, being run on a layout.
You only get to live once, after all, and I'd rather have fun with my trains now than put them in a vault so my heirs can get rich off them.
Just saying...
Shipwright1918 I totally agree with you! I know someone that has a 1935 Flying Yankee in such great shape he won’t even take it out of the box to show it to anyone let alone use it. I’m sure it’s beautiful but nobody will ever know unless he takes it out to at least show someone. While I can appreciate his wanting to preserve its condition, what good is it?!
To each his own I suppose. I prefer to purchase ones that don’t have the box and are in nice shape. It keeps the price reasonable and I don’t have to worry too much about scratches and dings should they happen!
Truth
I love the trains I play with them more than videogames and while being a teen at this time is tough every one at school thinks its weird when I want to go home and work on my layout
@@matthewthemodelrailroader9497 You can learn many things & develop many skills as a model railroader. If your friends are not interested in the hobby, you can communicate with other high school age modelers on You Tube.
I have my father's 1931 Lionel 262 with cars. I run it. Nothing like the smell of ozone in the morning. :)
Misinformation on a few levels. No way $8000-$10,000....I own a set and paid less then $4000. Also, ALL Lionel standard and O gauge passenger car roofs were removable in the 20's and 30's. TV Hype!
Markets go up and down, and the Model Train market is in a depression. Hence the higher value from 13 years ago.
that guy on The Soprano's paid $8000 for this...
Condition matters, also I noticed some of the later ones had silver accents instead of gold.
@@timheidel5849 the set used in the show was a reproduction and wouldn't be valued anywhere NEAR that kind of money irl
What? A TV show using "props"? LOL. But, seriously, it looks like the producers of The Sopranos at least did some research to come up with a (possibly) valid price.
That's in amazing condition for a 70 year old toy.
indeed
My grandma has this, It's way more beautiful irl.
Thank God for model the trains, you know? If they didn't have the model trains they wouldn't have gotten the idea for the big trains.
That's cute Elwood, but locomotive manufacturers in the 1800s did make scale models of steam locomotives that salesmen would show to railroad executives.
@@Petemonster62 quote from the movie "A Mighty Wind"
@@ElwoodPDowd-nz2si That's right, " A Mighty Wind "! A movie with a model train layout that has a fast-moving Shay locomotive!
That set is in very nice shape. The eBay listings are for some rougher condition sets.
"Eight to ten thousand? It makes me want to cash in this piece of, er, I mean, treasure it even more."
Jupiter MacWillow I know what you were gonna say, train hater.
lmao
Beautiful Train Set... Love the art-deco look of this Lionel...👍💕🔥🚂
yeah they are incredible trains
Another fake story
Her knowledge is extensive, but a company called the Carlisle & Finch Electric Novelty Company sold the 1st electric trains in 1896. Lionel started with 2&7/8 " gauge trains in 1901 & Standard Gauge in 1906.
Imagine... sitting in that club car sippin on a Negroni
I don't know why people go on AR and say, I'll never sell!!! Then why go on?
That train never had the makings of a varsity locomotive.
Beautiful set!
Great history lesson.
Friend i know online has one
Why do these videos end with what sounds like a few random notes of a bassoon?
Van Monroe they play that when an item has lost value.
Bottom has fallen out of Standard Gauge. That set did have some wear, never bring 4-6K unboxed now....even if it was even better condition.
AWSOME-$$$$$$$$$$$
Congratulations to the first family to the second family to their family and so on beyond that this is a very very of unique train set model just like the same one dad the doors open but no one have seen that the roof open by itself that the inside and there was a dog's right there for many passengers at people that did that well you see it but however time move on anyway but this is a 1 of the kind of well unique made in America since 1930 when the past today the future right now how it is credible everyone
Interesting
Leila is such a joy to listen to.
You can easily take the top off of all prewar Lionel passenger cars.
not really. i believe so for standard gauge but not prewar lionel o gauge cars.
oh wait, never mind lol i was thinking about ives o gauge cars :P
Damm why can Lionel make trains like this anymore
Night Is Right - Lionel did make reproductions of Standard Gauge trains in the 1980s. Another company by the name of Mike's Train House also made reproductions of Standard Gauge trains.
She's cute
My brother always wanted a Lionel Train that my grandfather had because he was an antique collector!
Purty
She does sports memorabilia and model trains too!?
You take the roof off one car and no mohair seats but toilets thanks
One gripe keep politics out of the comments
2:52............what the guy really meeans is....."good heavens makes me wanna....Treeaa(sell)sure it even more"
Frank on American Pickers over paid for one like this because the paint was touched up.
And Rick from Pawn Stars goes like this:.
Well last year at this time the market was hot and this was worth big bucks. But six months ago some old guy died who owned a warehouse full of these. The crazy guy had them under lock and for like 60 years. The family had a giant auction which eventually flooded the market. Now your train is worth next to nothing. I even got caught holding 2 of these. We keep one in the john ontop of the toilet tank. 90 bucks is all I can do. That's 20 for esch of the big cars and 10 dollas for the tank car... cuz I'm in a good mood today
This loco is great
👍👌👏
Noel did not rate this?
Quite a crowd of unlookers there
Boy, how model trains have last value. It’s very depressing.
Sadly model trains don't have much interest to younger people these days - the entire hobby is in a sad state ; I know a lot of shops have gone out of business - and internet only hobbies are tough for attracting new people. (Amateur radio is kind of in the same boat in the US, and let's not even bring up stamp collecting)
I heard the reason it is this way is because when the younger start out with their first starter set and want to buy more it's set at these overwhelming high prices. They may have money to buy a few DCC engines and a controller but not make a whole layout. This is why I'm trying to join that club.
THEY DONT COST THAT MUCH. ALL OVER EBAY YOU CAN GET A NICE SET FOR AROUND 3-4000$
What Steve Thomas doesn't realize that there are NO PREMIUM CONDITION Blue Comets available for anything near $3000 to $4000!! This set is only in C7 condition which is far from premium. I have 7 Blue Comet sets, all in like new to mint condition, all with inside and set boxes and the minimum value for any of these Superb examples is $20,000 plus!! It's all about condition, condition, condition to paraphrase the old real estate motto.
@@martinfolb1205 i just bought a mint cond blue comet and tender , unfortunately no box, on ebay yesterday for $ 499.
I got this same model train set I did not pay the kind of money for this set I got my set for 65.00 at a trainshow what she is say is a ripoff
is it a N gauge ?
Of course it dropped in value by half in 2015. That's when we still enjoying "hope and change".