MESHUGGAH Immutable Album Review | BangerTV
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2024
- 2022 brings the release of the Swedish icons’ most fearlessly creative studio album yet. Full of surprises and yet instantly recognizable as the work of metal’s most idiosyncratic force, Immutable redefines and redesigns the MESHUGGAH sound across more than an hour of the most stimulating and absorbing music the band have ever made.
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Shoutout Albums:
Nekorgoblikon - The Fundamental Slimes and Humour
Satan - Earth Infernal
Kublai Khan - The Lowest Form Of Animal
If you Like Meshuggah:
Animals As Leaders - The Joy Of Motion
Intervals - The Shape Of Colour
Stephen Taranto - Permanence
David Maxim Micic - Who Bit The Moon
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It’s actually funny how many bands emulate the style Meshuggah created but still no one actually sounds like them. That’s true greatness
Ah, I see you are also a Jake.
That is greatness.
You are quite correct.
tbh at this point i feel there are 3-4 distinct "meshuggah phases" and the only band that sounds like them it's meshuggah itself, and around those years only
It's because they've never abandoned the death metal part of their sound. All the other bands that emulate them (in many cases probably to their benefit) attack it from different angles or combine it with different sounds. Most djent bands take from the prog side. There's more melody. Sometimes there's clean singing. Animals as Leaders take the sound and add it to shred. LOG of course combined it with elements from hardcore, sludge, Pantera, and Breadwinner. A Life Once Lost took the sound and moved it in a metalcore direction (the funny thing is, I think a lot of people made fun of ALOL for being "Meshuggah for scene kids", myself included. But go back and listen to Hunter now, and songs like "Vulture" are WAAAAAAYYY more aggressive and lacerating than a lot of modern djent bands!)
i used to compose heavy metal, then blues solo, then black metal.. and now i cannot resist but constantly do 000 000 0 0 00 0 000 0 1 1 with a 50 second puking
"They Move Below" is such a fuckin' trip... brings the album to a whole other level. And then the aptly titled "Armies of the Preposterous" is so hilariously heavy, I laughed in metal glee all the way to the end of the album. They never fail. Immutable.
Yah that track stands out big time. I like kaleidoscope it sounds like what a dinosaur would listen to. But your track is so good
Many have tried and attempted.
*But there is just no band in the world that can compare to* Meshuggah.
I tried 10 hours of it and failed. Im honored to be way less interesting than Messhugah. i will still chug weird time signature and note position, cause 000 0 0 00 0 000 1 1 is life
This is so true. There is literally nothing else like it.
true
gojira
Easily Meshuggah's best work since Obzen. Love the bit warmer, more groove oriented sound on this record. Awesome stuff.
Catch 33 vibes, which as a fan is what I was yearning for.
There's always a gap between their albums but when they come round again they show everyone that plays that style how it's done. It's not the BRUTAL sound or how TECHNICAL it is, it's the songwriting. No one writes songs like them IMO. It's so well done , cold and alien. I Genuinely can't think of another band like them and I just love em.
Immutable is an incredible record.
Thanks for mentioning that Obzen came out when you were in high school. I feel like an ancient death-metal loving dinosaur right now.
Why does every Meshuggah album cover look like a Playstation 1 game?
Caught me off guard with the shoutout! Thanks so much. This album is phenomenal 🖤
The comparison to Slayer actually works, in that they never got softer. Whereas a lot of djent core, metal core and a lot of metal bands went full on or partially butt rock, the true OGs keep their sound alive
I think what will always separate them from the copycats is their profound knowledge of jazz theory and harmony! They are just so deep with their rhythmic/harmonic and melodic approach!
Fantastic review...thanks for posting.
Meshuggas new album was a towering achievement and a colossal brick added to the cathedral that is culture. Grattis Sverige och grattis världen.
Finally a Meshuggah album that clicks with me! Have bought a few over the last couple of years but never wanted to listen to them more than a few times but this album is fantastic. 😙👌🏻
This is a great review! Accurate and well represented 🙌🏻
This is my favorite Meshuggah album since obZen. Well done!
Can't hold yourself on Violent Sleep of Reason I see
Best Meshuggah albums Destroy, Nothing, Obzen, I, Catch 33 and Immutable in that order 🔥🔥🔥
“Koloss”…followed by “Violent Sleep of Reason”.
This is a huge step backwards imo but I know old school fans will love this album.
I prefer when “Meshuggah” ups their production and writing style.
“Nekorgoblikon” - what a name! 😂 Definitely gonna cop this new Meshuggah album. 🤘
Destroy Erase Improve is my favorite of theirs. Not because I’m a hipster, but because I’m old
Old guy here too hahaha
One can be old and not a doomer. ;)
Me 2
Same 😂
Koloss is my favourite, then obzen, then destroy erase improve BUT i have a feeling this album is not what we think it is and could just be their best, God mode groove! I am also old.
some of the harmonic guitar soundscapes for example about 2 minutes into " I am that thirst" ,are gorgeous with a really otherworldly sound to it. also "past tense" is brilliant composing with this sound to it as well. its nothing they haven't attempted before but they really expanded there melodic and harmonic writing I think.
I was not huge on the violent sleep of reason but this seems way better from what i've heard so far, picking it up tomorrow
let's appreciate that it's a metal album in 2022 that actually has drums on it. Not programmed shit, actual drums
Dylan, you are the perfect guy to review Meshuggah for Banger. If you are looking for something on the more chill side of prog, if you have not listened to Pattern-Seeking Animals' album Only Passing Through I cannot recommend it enough! Also, to anyone who is looking for prog in the vein of Between the Buried and Me, I urge you to check out Without Waves' album Comedian.
They don’t rely on the 8th string grooves so much on this album which adds to the more melodic and ambient content. Yet somehow the mix is heavier than ever.
Phantoms is definitely my favorite track from the album
Don't know why but I couldn't help but laugh with every Meshuggah shout
I feel like the reason why no one can match shuggah's sound and get to their level is honestly their way of thinking. If you've ever seen people make visual representations of meshuggah riffs, you know what I mean when I say these guys are the masters of syncopation. They break free from the traditional "riff" and create something new by taking a simple pattern, putting it over a square back beat and filling in the gaps with drums, bass, and variation of that pattern. The very way by which these guys write their material is what makes them unique because no one understands the hypnotic effect of syncopated rhythm like these guys. So many moments throughout the album, its hard to "get" what they're doing until it just clicks and you're IN the music.
I came to Meshuggah late from King Crimson.
It's a different sound, but a lot of the prog metal polyrhythms come from the Discipline era. A very demented new wave that's groovier than most of the mainstream at the time.
I've also enjoyed Johnny Kleggs stuff for a more afrobeat polyrhythm.
Nothing as heavy as shugg tho
The thing I love about Meshuggah is the same thing I love about lamb of god. In that when you get a new album from either, you know what you're getting because they are the masters of their respective subgenres.
havnt heard enough zeros yet so i keep listening 0000 00 0 000 0 00 0 0 1 1 1 bend bend harmonic
Lamb of God peaked at Sacrament bud.
Destroy Erase Improve is not a solid album, it is a fucking masterpiece.
it's the only essential Meshuggah album.
Agree! Whoever says otherwise does not have an idea of what was going on in 1995…
DESTROY ERASE IMPROVE!
Futile Bread Maker is still a banger to this day.
This album is more atmospheric and organic then Violent Sleep. Love it so far. Meshuggah is my favorite band to exercise to. Already hit the weights, ran, and will snowboard to Immutable this weekend. Putting it through its paces. Loving it.
Dylan my dude where's the Animals as Leaders review??
I'm counting on you guys to vote for it when we do the "What we missed video." I would love to talk about it.
I met Tomas Haake a few years ago, nicest dude. Really down to earth, I told him he was a huge inspiration and he was like, "really, me?"
This was my experience when I met him like a decade ago. Ridiculously humble.
Finally!
I’ve been listening to Meshuggah for over 23years now. They are a rare breed of machine I tell ya. They keep getting heavier and heavier with each album. How do we get heavier, hmm add a string and tune lower lol.
No but immutable for me is taking Chaosphere and Nothing and making it Heavier, Warmer, Calculated, and gave it a Soul. It them being Immutable, but more organic at the same time.
The album is hard AF. It's been on constant rotation for the past 3 weeks. So fn good. Cannot wait to see them in September 🔥🔥🔥
Only a few weeks until the Bristol gig!!
Throwing first names around everywhere in this review I see. I, too, am a big fan of Tomas.
i think we've come full circle to the iconic introduction of Dylan teaching Brad how to play the drums on Bleed to this. :)
Yes, spread the word on David Maxim Micic
I would strongly argue that you could in fact be surprised by new Meshuggah albums! I remember being way deep into all their earlyer work, with Future Breed Machine and New Millenium Cyanide Christ as two of their absolute masterpieces (they still are in my opinion). But then out of left field they release Nothing. That sound shocked me, and is still one of the absolute best soundscapes I’ve heard, given its impact at the time!
Then, again, would anyone argue that hearing Bleed for the first time wasn’t a plesant surprise, even for long-time ‘shuggah fans?
As for Immutable, I won’t say it had quite the same effect as my two other examples, but the track Black Cathedral cought my off guard. Hearing Meshuggah approacing black metal was kind of interresting! It certainly got my attention, wondering where they would go with it. But I was kind of disappointed when it didn’t go anywhere at all.
Anyways, it’s a great album that I will surely play over and over again. Not their best album, in my opinion, but absoutley not the least! And it will more than likely grow a lot on me in the next weeks and months! 🤘😬
I still think Future Breed Machine is the platonic ideal Meshuggah song and it’s never been topped. It’s everything there is to love about the band in one song and it moves fast.
I felt like Immutable was simply more Meshuggah-- nothing groundbreaking, but at the same time nothing to complain about. Enjoyable listen from front to back, and looking forward to seeing some of the new songs on their upcoming tour!
It wasn't groundbreaking like obzen. However, they did get melodic a few times and introduced new sounds. I was pleasantly surprised.
@@mintgumornot a little more black metal influence in this one too
Immutable is better than Violent Sleep of Reason and Koloss by a long shot though. obZen and Catch Thirtythree will always be my favs though. Nothing is awesome too.
David Maxim Micic's Who Bit the Moon album is one of my favorite albums ever. It's crazy good and creative and just different. So great.
Happy birthday, Tango!
I rediscovered Meshuggah after 12 years. I felt for a long time they ruined metal and their music was just a thoughtless mundane exercise on putting a riff into the random number generator. Years later, I was trying to think of a band that was a combination of Tool and Swans' last three albums but metal. Incessant and repetitive, hypnotic, mesmerizing, symmetrical but asymmetrical; in the same manner that DNA replicates itself or the mathematical geometric inflections of nature, it is symmetrical but becomes infinitesimally asymmetrical with every duplication, propagating the building blocks innate to all life. Does that band even exist? Lo and Behold I rediscovered Meshuggah through a completely different lens. Not from a "check out this sick riff" perspective"(nothing wrong with that) but from a more Buddhist Kali Ma Sith Lord meditative perspective.
I love the atmosphere of Koloss, it’s so eerie and creepy. The hurt that finds you, the title track, Marrow, break those bones, and behind the sun. Much more moody than their other releases. Took me awhile to get into but the brooding monolithic atmosphere kept drawing me back in. I felt like I was getting a glimpse at these gargantuan vaporous creatures from beyond the abyss where flesh and time don’t exist; their maws drip with the saliva embedded in the universe. Koloss is a grower much like tvsor. Takes awhile to digest.
C33 is a masterpiece. The lyrics are incredible. Whether it’s intentional or not the lyrics seems to draw from Eastern theological/ontological concepts on the metaphysical cycles of rebirth and death in the ether. The quieter moments especially at the end of in death is death sounds like swirling into a weightless void of infinite dislocation where shards of glass give way to reflections of dimensions that are perpetually dismantled and forged simultaneously. Probably heavily referencing the Eastern Book of the Dead or the Bardo Thodol. I've noticed other people seem to make similar observations here. I seems to come from the perspective of an omniscient "omnicidal" being that obtains the power to reverse the streams of life mixed with themes of profound introspection and neurosis. I have a sneaking suspicion the band did DMT around the time of I and Catch 33.
Very ambiguous review...
Even though I liked their newest record, a part of me wished that they could have experimented more with their sound
awesome band love meshuggah they have progressive death metal elements as well defintely buying it
I was in the middle of downloading the album, turning volumes down....
And then I saw Dylan's smiling face.
Changed my day again.
THANKS!
Great review. I'll highly recommend to check out what Bill Bur thinks of Meshuggah.
I never even considered what kind of music Burr listens to but I thought about it and it makes sense.
I've been hoping to hear his thoughts on the new shit. Hope he shares some.
That riff from "the faultless" is just absolutely savage
Great recommendations, especially David Micic (that's pronounced "mee-tseetsh" btw :P)!
Thank you for watching! My mispronunciation of his last name is an old habit i'm trying to break. A friend of mine recommended his albums and he pronounced his last name like that and it stuck with me. I'll give him another shout out in the future cause his work deserves to be heard!
It's a good album, but I don't love it yet.
I do miss their experimental days and this album in regards to the heavy parts is safe, not bad, but nothing I haven't heard done better on previous albums.
Where I think this album excels is the melody. I know the word isn't synonymous with the name Meshuggah, but when they have added melody in the past I have always thought it sounded unique and added a dimension to their sound. The use of melody across this album is great, it creates interesting sound scapes and lifts this from being just another Meshuggah album. The ending of Ligature Marks really stands out to me, as well as the final track is very reminiscent of Catch 33 which I love.
Good review as always 👍
Are there any tuplets other than triplets on this album? Like quintuplets or septuplets? If so, where?
I'm just gonna say it, this is the strongest Meshuggah release since Catch 33. It's nice to see them go back to a songwriting approach that is centred more strongly around atmosphere and experimentation than the past two albums.
On par with Bolt Thrower for doing the same thing perfectly?
Nice pause for effect
yea they are delicious
I think this is one of their best albums and honestly I think it's better after a few listens. Kaleidoscope is my favorite track! One of their best grooves ever!
Ey, i know nobodys gonna believe me but im best friends with Mårtens son, and let me tell you Mårten is one hell of a dungeon master.
Edit: His son (wont say name for privacy reasons even tho his name is prob already public) says that Mårten also wrote 8/13 songs. I don't listen to this band or genre so i can't confirm it at all but a round of applause for Mårten, eh?
Halfway through and it's cool. I don't think Haake has used the hi-hat once yet though (!?) Will always respect these guys, but I do miss their more experimental days.
That thought hit me too, I realized I'd just been listening to crash cymbals the whole time.
the drums sound worse than the samples from the Nothing era
Listen more closely and you’ll hear that he‘s stomping on it most of the time
I’m continuing to listen to the album, but I’m not finding many songs that are sticking out to me like some of their past ones. Some of their older stuff just had an energy about it that I’m not getting from this album. It may just be something that grows over time with this one. For me at least
@@KGTv123 IMO this album doesn't have any god tier tracks, but aside from the interlude and outro, it is doesn't any tracks worse than great. I like it a bit more than TVSOR
5:11 YES!!!
Savvy review, found myself nodding again and again. Commenting to help the Algo promote this
Contradictions Collapse/ Psycic Testbild to this. Crazy. Shout out to Ryan White for showing me Destroy Erase Improve in 97.
Great album
If you want recommended some records with a strong Meshuggah vibes, then go to listen the chilean band Octopus, and look for the song Slussen
Even if you arent big on them, they are a MUST SEE live band. Legit.
I'm no aficionado on Meshuggah, but would love to know what they changed with the guitar tonality and whether this is new for them. There's a tendency with prog metal to have that super brittle, almost single coil sound, but this is thick and warm, yet still clear and brutally heavy and tight. It sounds organic, I.e. amped, not digital modelling.
This album absolutely kicks ass. A band that has never let me down.
🙏🏿
I first heard meshuggah in the 90s, when I received a magazine called "huh?" They included VHSs with the magazine. I heard of machine head, paradise lost, and meshuggah from those magazines.
Nice! I first heard Future Breed Machine on 89.5 WSOU in 96 and then got the None Ep. Been hooked on Meshuggah ever since.
🤘🤘
This album is absolutely nuts.
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
This album is incredible to me. They had put so many new things. They had borrowed a few elements from Death Metal and Black Metal, the album is very melodic, they had used Quake basses (which are an octave lower than an 8 string guitar) and Jens Kidman is using spoken vocals again (the last time he did so was in Shed from Catch 33). This is the next logical step for Meshuggah and I am all in for it with no questions asked.
At the same time, I can completely understand why people don't like it. Despite the new elements, it is _so much_ Meshuggah and nothing new. There is nothing groundbreaking and none of the tracks stand out. There is no "Bleed" or "Demiurge" of this album. All are about equal to each other. I would go as far as to say that this album is great to new listeners to get the Meshuggah sound and familiarize with it, because this album is _very_ Meshuggah.
That being said, I absolutely love this album. Worth 4.5 skulls out of 5 definitely.
Last time Jens used "spoken" words was, never. It is always Tomas who does them on the albums; Dancer's to a Discordant system, the ones on C33 and in Spasm. And, it is Tomas again on Broken Cog, if have understood it correctly.
I would disagree about nothing standing out. Broken Cog, Phantoms, Ligature Marks (this will fucking destroy live), Black Cathedral, The Faultless, I am That Thirst all stands out to me. But, this is the cool thing about music, the different opinions. There is nothing wrong, nothing correext and I really agree that this is the logical step. I think this record is like a time stamp of their career and bringing them into the future.
Also, I don't really get it, what do people expect? What on earth do Meshuggah owe us? They are doing their thing, get over it. They. Are. Fucking. Legends. For what they have done, they have earned their right to just do whatever they do, whenever they want it.
@@hakkenarsk No, it _really was_ Jens on Shed. Everything else was Tomas but Jens Kidman really did use spoken vocals on Shed. In simplest proof, check the wiki.
You should put "Fishing for an Apparition" on Spotify!
Carbomb is definitely my favorite meshuggah inspired band, check em out
what is the band of the shirt?
You'd think as a huge Prog Nerd, his inner Rush geek would know how to pronounce Kublai Khan (XA-NAAAAAA-DUUUUUUU)
The first half of this album, for the most part, went in one ear and out the other. But then they had that 9 1/2 minute instrumental and created a really solid second half. My favorite song on the record was The Faultless, simply because the opening riff was the most memorable thing on the entire release. I did enjoy Past Tense, Phantoms, Black Cathedral, and I Am That Thirst as well.
Exactly how I felt! Actually searched comments for some critical opinions since reviews overall have been so very positive, which mine is not. First half feels like a lot of filling material, occasionnally nice but really not memorable, and sometimes just feels like one really long song. Several times i felt like I have heard similar riffs of Meshuggah before. Not surprising, given there are only so many variations of classic meshuggah riffs: dum-dumdumdum- dum - ding; dum - dumdumdumdum - ding ding [repeat]. (The part at minute 3 of Phantom must be on purpose, though, right? Isn't that from some song of the Nothing album?)
It's like (I know an uncommon comparison) Kings of Convenience just reached the maximum number of chords/arrangements that give their signature sound - so anything "new" sounds similar to earlier work.
I feel they need to go off the brakes more often. Has been an issue that let me gradually lose interest in Meshuggah after ObZen. Technicality and progressiveness should be a means to an end (= an awesome song), not and end in itself. I guess overall, it's a focus on "interesting" rhythms that, for me, often does not serve the songs too much.
Second half has plenty of treats however, and reminded me why I loved Meshuggah! They should have focused on their most awesome riffs and cut the number of songs by 1/3.
MESHUGGAH !!!!!!! The new album is POWER!!!
I'm going to a concert in October. If Jens keeps his beard I might confuse people mistaking me for him. We have the same exact faces and bald head. Anyways, I love this album. I get a lot of Chaosphere and Nothing vibes from it, which are my favorites.
Agreed! It feels like they are taking a venture from their career and packaging it smartly and delivering something that is a natural sequel to TVSOR and pushing it to times to come. I think this is their best *album* yet, even if they have made more complex and groundbreaking things in the past. But as an album, this fucking hurts.
Same! Dallas show!!!!
Seeing them in Cleveland!!
atlanta for me.
Y’all gonna do Voivod or what?
I'm waiting too!
Haven't they? It's been out for a month or so? (awesome release)
Another suggestion:
Car Bomb
When you gave it a half skull I almost shit my pants. Well done.
Meshuggah is what got me started. Periphery got me HOOKED. There's other bands that got me started on the groove metal before these guys in the 90s-2000s
You're the only person ever to go Meshuggah then Periphery
Once again, here I am, in the comments, praising Dylan. I love Meshuggah, but I might actually love Dylan talking about Meshuggah, even more. Always thoughtful, offering his insights as a professional musician. You rule dude. Solid review. \m/
This album is elegant.
I’ve said it a bunch of times but Meshuggah is one of the most important and influential heavy bands in modern music and I dare to say they are also one of, if not the greatest musical export from Sweden regardless of genre.
I don't know, ABBA are pretty great.
Hmmm, I don't really disagree, but Sweden have some pretty big musical exports, both in metal and music in general.
Refused are pretty good too!
I've never been a fan of these guys (just not my thing), but I've always respected them. And, of course, I'll watch pretty much anything Banger does. Thanks for the video, Dylan! Happy Birthday, Tango.
Meshuggah is a band that I love, have the upmost respect for, and one that is truly mindblowing in their rhythm section. But also one that I never wanna listen to. Or I should say, when I do, I only last a little while. I dunno what it is, I’ve been listening to super heavy shit for 25 years. It’s their song structure I think, I must require less challenging songs on my day to day
The predecessors who walked and ran so the copy cats can crawl. Fan since 05. Love this band
Ulcerate and Gorguts say hello!!!
Lightyyearssssss ahead of everyone. We don't even deserve this band.
Immutable is a fucking masterpiece. Top 5 of 2022 for sure.
So much amazing stuff on this album. Blending nothing with chaosphere and koloss to me…
I definitely hear a little Catch 33 in a few of the songs, too
@@DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE phantoms definitely had some of that
@@adrianmurillo8778 For sure and parts of They Move Below reminded me of that album. Especially the clean guitar in the intro.
i'm happy they are going back to chaosphere style ☺️
I remember hearing in the mid 90's and being blown away. Never heard time signatures like that. Changed my drumming style.
What's funny i think most signatures are standard 4/4, just with insane rhythm patterns.
@@Golipillas I know right? Dude was way ahead of his time.
One of the best ever behind the kit for sure!
Kublai Khan, the Mongol! Xanadu and what have you
Fans of Meshuggah should check out car bomb and vildhjarta. That's the stuff right there.
You missed the NeckroKublaiKhan joke. and omitted the TX from the name but hey...
Obzen and Chaosphere? Im certain you meant Catch 33 and Nothing.
Messhugah is Tool but make it thrash, and I'm okay with that.
This is an oversimplification, but I believe it works.
Meshuggah is Tool except it not sucks as*.
Yeah I think this one's just awesome, I keep getting yelled at by my teenage kids to turn the stereo down, ha ha.