Hey Lloyd, I’ve just bought an F3 professional and have to say that your video was instrumental on my decision, thank you. I love watching your videos and enjoy them immensely - please keep them coming mate - again, thank you 😀
Lloyd I owed a CG Summit Ascent for several years and recently bought Blaser F 3 Supersport. I have shot the CG Invitus and find that trigger excellent but IMHO the F 3 Blaser Supersport is heads and tails above the CG Invitus. Both the Invitus and Supersport are great shotguns but the German gun the one for me.....Excellent thread on quality sporting clay breaking machines 👍👍
Interesting watching this 5 years on and the discussion on price vs an Invictus - the Blaser has increased in price far more aggressively than the CG since this video was made
Looking to upgrade I've tried the F3 twice now, 1st time on skeet 24/25 the next week 25/25 going back to my gun it felt awful compared to the f3. Needless to say the f3 is now on the shortlist.
Great review! In the handling stakes did you find much difference in the Parcours compared to the F3? Also, any chance you might be interested in reviewing the DT11 Black? Or Perazzi HTS? And for something different - what about looking at cartridges? Cheers! Mitch
Way to go Lloyd..........You know I was waiting for this one......lol. Spot on review of the F3. However, my money would go towards the F3 instead of the CG. Not that the CG is an inferior gun, just that the F3 is just that much more of a gun. Now if you put it up against the DT11, we'd have something to debate. Keep the great reviews coming mate.....enjoying everyone of them. Regards, Frank
The only competitor to Blaser is Krieghoff. Perazzi simply are not reliable enough, nor are the DT11s. There have been a number of people that have to had to borrow K80s to finish shoots in the last several years. The Beretta trucks at the shoots don't have parts for the DT11s and it is tough to fix a loose rib on a Perazzi at a shoot.
hi Lloyd, I'm using the f3 pro 32 at the moment. do you think it's worth a look at the vantage, is the shooting easier with the raised rib? thanks. Brian Dillon
How's it going lloyd. since my last comment I've had a zoli z sport, and shot pretty well with it and overall really liked it. but with more experience of sporting clays you get to know what works for you. anyway, just took the plunge on an f3 vantage. what do ya reckon. am I nuts?
Hi again sir, finally looking at C/G invictus v and Blaser competition -sporting adjustable flat rib both of them. As i highly value your opinion, which one would i choose in terms of building quality ? Blaser is more expencive about 600 d. and its not an issue if this is a better choice. Both fit well and almost have same tech specs. Thank you.
Christina Magou you pay more, you get more. The CG is an excellent gun, the Blaser is better. That’s my opinion anyway. Blaser engineering is impeccable.
Me gusta el video lo que pasa es que esta en inglés y yo no se Nada de inglés tengo 84 años y los miro porque entiendo algo del tema !!!por no decir MUCHO !!!
Hi Lloyd. Very interesting review, only just discovered you on you tube and subscribed straight away, I’m now looking for a new gun and I’m torn between the k80 or the F3 what do you think?
@@lloydyp I’d love to come and shoot sometime, but I live right in the far west off Cornwall 8 miles from lands end so it’s a far trip for me unfortunately. But me and the lads do have a weekend away every now and then so you never know.
Hey Lloyd great channel! What do you think - B725 ProSport or Blaser F3? I know that blaser is a little bit more expensive but I want to know your opinion.
Nice review mate, could you tell me is it possible to buy a medium height rib like whats on the vantage? reason being I actually have a f3 pro myself with the flat rib and wonder could I change it for a medium rib for it like the vantage? I have an adjustable stock so no problem raising that..
Huntertom365 I’m sure if you need a replacement rib, they would sort you out but as far as I know there aren’t a range of ribs for you to choose from. Are you in the U.K. or the US?
I would love to buy this gun, but it is simply outside my price range. Do you know of any affordable guns that have an elevated rib, but parallel to the barrel as with the vantage? Alternatively, are you aware of any aftermarket elevated/adjustable ribs that can be fitted to an existing gun?
Hi lloyd watching uour videos with intrest, im seriously thinking about trap shooting again. Would you recommend the browning grand prix or the berreta 692 many thanks
@@neilpalframan4807 long time since I have seen a Browning GP. I assume you will be able to find one used. However since it's basically a 525 there are plenty of those about. Depends on your style really, either will be fine.
You've mentioned that the you didn't get along with the high rib Super Sport but can you comment on the mid rib vs low. I shoot a low rib and tried a F16 (very nice) but was wondering about the mid rib Vantage. Being in Canada chances of shooting one are slim to none. thanks and good videos.
+Norm W good point, I didn't mention the mid rib because I simply didn't notice it at all while shooting. To me that's a win, good head position and target visibility without being distracting.
Last week my long awaited shotgun came to my hands from factory. A Blaser F3 sporting professional adjustable 32 inch. First impression from it was quite promising. Great wood with great fit on all parts but I have to notice that bluing was not so good. First day at home while cleaning the receiver from factory preservatives the F3 logo came out from the right side. I tried to stay calm. When gun assembled and came to.my shoulder second strike. The mid bid is off center to the right while top rib looked like a bow. The new gun is now back at its first week to the dealer. They said they have to change the top rib and see if the problem will be sorted. If not send the barrels to Germany.The gun came to me after 7 months from order and now I have to wait for a rib replacement for another two months, rib has to come from factory. What do you think? They said I was unlucky. Do you think that this has to do anything with luck? I paid 6.800 euros for God sake and I feel I have lost my confidence in a gun that it should never leave the factory at the first place if they want to keep customers. The funny thing is that it has a certificate in the case that certifies gun passed quality control. Someone at the factory must be blind.
@@lloydyp I did ask the very same question and they said that they never open a case when a gun is to go direct to a customer from factory. I think someone is avoiding responsibilities here. To bad and it seems to be a very good gun. As for the logos on the sides of the receivers on the very new models are with glue and they do come of real easy. The very same thing happens on F16 also. Not sure yet but I might go for another brand. I know this a mass produced gun but I thought at this price range at least quality control would be top notch. So be careful what's you are buying. It's far better to see and inspect the gun before you buy it and do not relay on its reputation. I have photos of all this mess but for the time they asked me not to post. They should have thought that before deliver the gun both factory and dealer.
Good review as always. It's just to bad that Blaser discontinued the F3 Game and Game Competition, if they were still in production i probably would have bought a Game Competition but now I ended up buying a brand new Krieghoff K-80 Parcours, just waiting for the licens to be clear.
have an F16 sporting and the recoil is pretty annoying. Having a F3 bonsi black built this weekend. Selling the F16, it says Blaser on it but it isn't nearly as good as it should be from Blaser.
Coming back to be advised once more............could you comment please the quality oh the patterns that Blaser gives -tight,open,uniformity. Maybe compared to other brands you shot like Guerini Invictus, Beretta 692 or other. Thank you.
Honest answer, I don't pattern the test guns. Patterning is about getting fit and ammo choice right and with a gun I get for a short time to test it's just not worth it. If I can break clays with it, I am happy. I do have some patterns from my F3, but none from any of the other guns.
Christina Magou my f3 patterned beautifully, with pretty much any cartridge although I think Eley select were about my favourite at the time. Now I shoot whatever I can get hands on cheap.
OOFF, now theres a question. Hmmm. Well I owned an F3 before the Kreighoff and I love the aesthetic of german design, the care and attention to detal, the simplicity. But the DT11 is one hell of a gun too, and I would be remiss if I were to ignore it's pedigree, they are superbly engineered too, removable trigger group with trigger pulls only rivalled by Perazzi. There is very little to separate the two in terms of quality and shootability. I think a year ago I would have picked the Blaser in a heartbeat, after spending time with the DT series guns the choice is not so easy. After agonising about this for a while I think the choice would come down to what I could get the best deal on and which had the nicest wood,. I realise that's not an answer but it's that close for me I don't think there is an easy answer.
Hi sir, talking about Blaser enginnering and precision, look at the first minute of your video, freeze the image,.......................a huge gap between forend wood and barrels. Not very encouraging for the status of the gun. Have seen a lot better fits in less expencive guns. Your comment please !!
Why on earth would you want the wood to touch the barrels? Remember fore end is only there so you have something to hold, the barrels float on the fore end iron. The size of the gap means nothing as long as it's consistent.
Maybe i am wrong but it was always a pleasure to me if there was no gap between forent wood and barrels-not firmly,just with no gap- It seems like a better quality job. And if wood to forend iron has a gap it doesnt mean that it is a real problem but it sure is at least aesthetically not good. And a comment for the 18.7 bore, isnt that too big? why the change ? Its better now?
Christina Magou overboring is pretty common for competition guns, only a problem if you are shooting fibre wads. Little or no gap between the wood and the Barrels just means you wear off the blueing or in this case the Nitride.
Being at my shooting club on Sunday, curious on this forend thing. I shot my brothers XS Prestige Browning. Got in my hands exept that in a DT 11 , a 692 , a guerini invictus. No F3 available. None of them had a gap on forend wood-barrels, at least i could see. No bluing loss for them, maybe cause they are fairly new. Just wondering........ whats the better approach in this matter.
Very nice review. It seems like a very promissing shotgun. There are complains that these guns do pierce primers. Have you ever heard of that issue or from your experience with the gun? Thank you.
Not personally no, I actually heard the same thing while I was an F3 owner and I made a point of checking primers every time I changed cartridges for a while and I never once saw a pierced primer. Of course that's my experience with my guns and the guns I have tested, I cant speak for every gun that comes off the production line.
Would you give us the shell brand you used with the gun? The primers were steel or brass? Thanks again. You are making great reviews-videos, keep up, i think i watched all of them.
Αναστασία Χατζησούκου thank you :). At the time I was shooting a lot of eley superb, and game bore velocity. Don’t know what the primer composition was though.
Hi love the video ,l have not been shooting that long so l don't understand the comment about fibre wads as that's all l can shoot where I go and would love to have an F3
+bromkin 12ga nominal diameter is 18.4mm, so if a gun is overbored to say 18.7 and you shoot fibre wads that do not expand there is potentially a tiny gap around the wad. To be honest unless you are shooting at a really high level I doubt you will notice a loss of muzzle velocity.
You mentioned that the depreciation on the vantage is not a lot. I have seen a lot of 2017 models selling for between £4750 and £5500. Most are in superb condition. To me, that is a hefty loss for a premium gun. I have actually enquired about one but this is a bit off putting.
@@lloydyp hello again. Yes, I understand what your saying. Don't get me wrong, I am still considering upgrading to one. It's just that, for example, I have a Browning Ultra XS and was offered only £100 less for it a year after I bought it and that was from a dealer so the 2 year old Blaser prices compared to new is quite a loss. Having said that, like I said I will still be looking into investing in one given their build quality and reviews. Thanks for your video reviews . They are a great help.
@@colincassie1 I think you are basing your opinion off too small a sample size, you lose 20% of a guns value as soon as you walk out of a gun room on a new gun. Some guns when in high demand will be really strong but across the board you will lose money buying new trading in. If you buy a gun at 5k, use it then trade up to say something at 7k, expect the dealer to bid you 3.5 to 3.7 to sell your old gun between 4 to 4.5. dealers have to make margin or they won't be dealers for long.
Hey Lloyd, I’ve just bought an F3 professional and have to say that your video was instrumental on my decision, thank you. I love watching your videos and enjoy them immensely - please keep them coming mate - again, thank you 😀
Thanks Rick, glad to hear it :)
Lloyd Pattison please keep the videos coming mate - thank you
After watching your reviews lloyd I have just bought a supersport f3 looking forward to dusting a few ! Thanks for a great review
Thanks Tim.
I have shot both CG and Blaser both are great shotguns if it is all about the money I would go with CG. Plus in USA CG has lifetime warranty.
Thank you Charles.
This weekend was very nice and enjoyable for me. Thank you Liloyd.
Glad to hear it 😉
I e shot a cg invictus ascent for 3 yrs. everytime I’ve shot a Blaser it feels a tad more easy to move. Should I change ???
Lloyd I owed a CG Summit Ascent for several years and recently bought Blaser F 3 Supersport. I have shot the CG Invitus and find that trigger excellent but IMHO the F 3 Blaser Supersport is heads and tails above the CG Invitus. Both the Invitus and Supersport are great shotguns but the German gun the one for me.....Excellent thread on quality sporting clay breaking machines 👍👍
Thanks Charles.
Interesting watching this 5 years on and the discussion on price vs an Invictus - the Blaser has increased in price far more aggressively than the CG since this video was made
Blaser F3 Vantage, i own one, Just love IT!
Good choice, Thanks Paul
Love that word....."GERMANIC"......spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
My son shoots a F3 super trap he loves it
Thank you.
Looking to upgrade I've tried the F3 twice now, 1st time on skeet 24/25 the next week 25/25 going back to my gun it felt awful compared to the f3. Needless to say the f3 is now on the shortlist.
Now that's you've shot a DT11 would you prefer the F3 vantage over DT11?
Honestly? I don't know, I would need to shoot both again. It's been a while and they are both excellent guns.
Great review! In the handling stakes did you find much difference in the Parcours compared to the F3?
Also, any chance you might be interested in reviewing the DT11 Black? Or Perazzi HTS?
And for something different - what about looking at cartridges?
Cheers!
Mitch
Parcours is faster. DT11 review will be coming in a few weeks. Cart reviews might happen, but need more traffic to interest the manufacturers.
Way to go Lloyd..........You know I was waiting for this one......lol. Spot on review of the F3. However, my money would go towards the F3 instead of the CG. Not that the CG is an inferior gun, just that the F3 is just that much more of a gun. Now if you put it up against the DT11, we'd have something to debate. Keep the great reviews coming mate.....enjoying everyone of them. Regards, Frank
Thank you Frank.
Top job again mate.
Not sure if something your willing to do, but i would be interested in a gun cleaning video.
Thanks man, I think I can do something like that for you.
Lloyd Pattison 👍 thank you
Cleaning video on the way with an expert guest star, keep your eyes peeled for this upcoming episode.
The only competitor to Blaser is Krieghoff. Perazzi simply are not reliable enough, nor are the DT11s. There have been a number of people that have to had to borrow K80s to finish shoots in the last several years. The Beretta trucks at the shoots don't have parts for the DT11s and it is tough to fix a loose rib on a Perazzi at a shoot.
Now a few years on and shot a dt11 which would you go for.?
K80.
hi Lloyd, I'm using the f3 pro 32 at the moment. do you think it's worth a look at the vantage, is the shooting easier with the raised rib? thanks. Brian Dillon
Nope. I don't think you will notice a difference.
cheers lloyd.
How's it going lloyd. since my last comment I've had a zoli z sport, and shot pretty well with it and overall really liked it. but with more experience of sporting clays you get to know what works for you. anyway, just took the plunge on an f3 vantage. what do ya reckon. am I nuts?
@briandillon8823 I guess we will find out. If you dig the German engineering, I get it, it’s why I bought one.
Lloyd, would you have to float the bird? or just stay on the target line?
Sorry man you are going to have to elaborate, I am not sure what you are asking me?
Good review on the F3. I would like to know if you anticipate reviewing a Sildiz SME STEEL 12 ga. In the near future.
No plans at the moment Mark, but that doesn't mean I won't get t it eventually.
Hi again sir, finally looking at C/G invictus v and Blaser competition -sporting adjustable flat rib both of them. As i highly value your opinion, which one would i choose in terms of building quality ? Blaser is more expencive about 600 d. and its not an issue if this is a better choice. Both fit well and almost have same tech specs. Thank you.
Christina Magou Blaser all day for my money.
So, Blaser must be more of a gun than Ceaser Guerini invictus v if you dont mind the price difference. Is that right ?
Christina Magou you pay more, you get more. The CG is an excellent gun, the Blaser is better. That’s my opinion anyway. Blaser engineering is impeccable.
Thank you sir, I will go for the Blaser, keep up the good work, regards from Greece.
Me gusta el video lo que pasa es que esta en inglés y yo no se Nada de inglés tengo 84 años y los miro porque entiendo algo del tema !!!por no decir MUCHO !!!
Hi Lloyd. Very interesting review, only just discovered you on you tube and subscribed straight away, I’m now looking for a new gun and I’m torn between the k80 or the F3 what do you think?
Personally, K80 all the way.
thanks for subscribing ;)
@@lloydyp thank you for your advise, you may have just made my mind up. I travel the country shooting, I’m a mean skeet shooter.
@@jonstephens682 good skeet layouts at bywell, let me know if you want to shoot sometime.
@@lloydyp I’d love to come and shoot sometime, but I live right in the far west off Cornwall 8 miles from lands end so it’s a far trip for me unfortunately. But me and the lads do have a weekend away every now and then so you never know.
Hey Lloyd great channel! What do you think - B725 ProSport or Blaser F3? I know that blaser is a little bit more expensive but I want to know your opinion.
+Aleksander Popiołek if money is no object get the Blaser. The pro sport is brilliant for the money but it’s not a Blaser.
Yesterday I compared b725 prosport with ultra xs sporter prestige and I chose the "xs". I hope this will be the right decision :)
Funny you mention that, someone else asked me to look at the Ultra XS pro today. Will have to see if I can get a demo gun.
So I am waitintg for review...
Ha, I dont know if I can get one yet. I can only try :)
Nice review mate, could you tell me is it possible to buy a medium height rib like whats on the vantage? reason being I actually have a f3 pro myself with the flat rib and wonder could I change it for a medium rib for it like the vantage? I have an adjustable stock so no problem raising that..
They don’t sell ribs separately as far as l know.
You could buy a set of vantage barrels, but they arent cheap.
ok cheers mate didn't realize that they don't sell ribs separate, I was hoping to avoid paying 3.5k for barrels
Huntertom365 I’m sure if you need a replacement rib, they would sort you out but as far as I know there aren’t a range of ribs for you to choose from. Are you in the U.K. or the US?
I would love to buy this gun, but it is simply outside my price range. Do you know of any affordable guns that have an elevated rib, but parallel to the barrel as with the vantage? Alternatively, are you aware of any aftermarket elevated/adjustable ribs that can be fitted to an existing gun?
Are you in the UK?
@@lloydyp Yes
@@mrsmith9079 check out the Caesar Guerini summit ascent. Or a used invictus ascent if you can find one.
@@lloydyp Thanks, I'll have a look
The profile really resembles the Ruger Red Label O/U, nice and low!
No ruger shotguns in the UK, never seen one.
Hi lloyd watching uour videos with intrest, im seriously thinking about trap shooting again. Would you recommend the browning grand prix or the berreta 692 many thanks
@@neilpalframan4807 long time since I have seen a Browning GP. I assume you will be able to find one used. However since it's basically a 525 there are plenty of those about. Depends on your style really, either will be fine.
You've mentioned that the you didn't get along with the high rib Super Sport but can you comment on the mid rib vs low. I shoot a low rib and tried a F16 (very nice) but was wondering about the mid rib Vantage. Being in Canada chances of shooting one are slim to none. thanks and good videos.
+Norm W good point, I didn't mention the mid rib because I simply didn't notice it at all while shooting. To me that's a win, good head position and target visibility without being distracting.
Good to know - must try now - thanks
Last week my long awaited shotgun came to my hands from factory. A Blaser F3 sporting professional adjustable 32 inch. First impression from it was quite promising. Great wood with great fit on all parts but I have to notice that bluing was not so good. First day at home while cleaning the receiver from factory preservatives the F3 logo came out from the right side. I tried to stay calm. When gun assembled and came to.my shoulder second strike. The mid bid is off center to the right while top rib looked like a bow. The new gun is now back at its first week to the dealer. They said they have to change the top rib and see if the problem will be sorted. If not send the barrels to Germany.The gun came to me after 7 months from order and now I have to wait for a rib replacement for another two months, rib has to come from factory. What do you think? They said I was unlucky. Do you think that this has to do anything with luck? I paid 6.800 euros for God sake and I feel I have lost my confidence in a gun that it should never leave the factory at the first place if they want to keep customers. The funny thing is that it has a certificate in the case that certifies gun passed quality control. Someone at the factory must be blind.
Wow that sucks, I have never heard of a gun arriving in a state like that before. Surely the dealer should have checked it before handing it over?
@@lloydyp I did ask the very same question and they said that they never open a case when a gun is to go direct to a customer from factory. I think someone is avoiding responsibilities here. To bad and it seems to be a very good gun. As for the logos on the sides of the receivers on the very new models are with glue and they do come of real easy. The very same thing happens on F16 also. Not sure yet but I might go for another brand. I know this a mass produced gun but I thought at this price range at least quality control would be top notch. So be careful what's you are buying. It's far better to see and inspect the gun before you buy it and do not relay on its reputation. I have photos of all this mess but for the time they asked me not to post. They should have thought that before deliver the gun both factory and dealer.
Should of just got your money back and let it be someone else's problem. I would not entertain that at all.
Which one you prefer more, k-80 or f3?
Now there's a question. In truth, I prefer the ergonomics and the design of the F3, but for whatever reason I shoot the K gun better than I did my F3.
Good review as always.
It's just to bad that Blaser discontinued the F3 Game and Game Competition, if they were still in production i probably would have bought a Game Competition but now I ended up buying a brand new Krieghoff K-80 Parcours, just waiting for the licens to be clear.
F16 Game is a nice gun, wish I hadn't sold mine.
Yeah i guess you right, but they only come in standard configuration which i think make some people look elsewhere.
If it´s me you asking I haven't got it yet, but i do know the weight is 3.6kg
Some F16's are giving alot of trouble , I'd prefer the F3 over the F16 in my opinion
have an F16 sporting and the recoil is pretty annoying. Having a F3 bonsi black built this weekend. Selling the F16, it says Blaser on it but it isn't nearly as good as it should be from Blaser.
Did I miss the Price?..in US Dollars..please! We don't have UK concurrency here..
And we do not have US Dollars here.
Coming back to be advised once more............could you comment please the quality oh the patterns that Blaser gives -tight,open,uniformity. Maybe compared to other brands you shot like Guerini Invictus, Beretta 692 or other. Thank you.
Honest answer, I don't pattern the test guns. Patterning is about getting fit and ammo choice right and with a gun I get for a short time to test it's just not worth it. If I can break clays with it, I am happy. I do have some patterns from my F3, but none from any of the other guns.
Then how do you find Blasers F3 patterning ? Very interested!!!!
Christina Magou my f3 patterned beautifully, with pretty much any cartridge although I think Eley select were about my favourite at the time. Now I shoot whatever I can get hands on cheap.
Thank you once again sir. I keep reading that F3 has very open patterns and thats something that drows me back from the final decision on buying one.
Rubbish, get one bought.
Any chance of a review on Browning Maxus please chap?
I'm waiting on one from Browning to review. 😁
Cool, thank you,
HI LIOYD WHICH ONE YOU PREFER F3 OR DT11. THANK YOU
OOFF, now theres a question. Hmmm. Well I owned an F3 before the Kreighoff and I love the aesthetic of german design, the care and attention to detal, the simplicity. But the DT11 is one hell of a gun too, and I would be remiss if I were to ignore it's pedigree, they are superbly engineered too, removable trigger group with trigger pulls only rivalled by Perazzi. There is very little to separate the two in terms of quality and shootability.
I think a year ago I would have picked the Blaser in a heartbeat, after spending time with the DT series guns the choice is not so easy. After agonising about this for a while I think the choice would come down to what I could get the best deal on and which had the nicest wood,. I realise that's not an answer but it's that close for me I don't think there is an easy answer.
LIoyd Thank You .
Hey Lloyd, can you do a review of the Fabarm RS12?
Almost certainly.
Hi sir, talking about Blaser enginnering and precision, look at the first minute of your video, freeze the image,.......................a huge gap between forend wood and barrels. Not very encouraging for the status of the gun. Have seen a lot better fits in less expencive guns. Your comment please !!
Why on earth would you want the wood to touch the barrels? Remember fore end is only there so you have something to hold, the barrels float on the fore end iron. The size of the gap means nothing as long as it's consistent.
Maybe i am wrong but it was always a pleasure to me if there was no gap between forent wood and barrels-not firmly,just with no gap- It seems like a better quality job. And if wood to forend iron has a gap it doesnt mean that it is a real problem but it sure is at least aesthetically not good.
And a comment for the 18.7 bore, isnt that too big? why the change ? Its better now?
Christina Magou overboring is pretty common for competition guns, only a problem if you are shooting fibre wads. Little or no gap between the wood and the Barrels just means you wear off the blueing or in this case the Nitride.
Thank you once again for your help, sir.
Being at my shooting club on Sunday, curious on this forend thing. I shot my brothers XS Prestige Browning.
Got in my hands exept that in a DT 11 , a 692 , a guerini invictus. No F3 available. None of them had a gap on forend wood-barrels, at least i could see. No bluing loss for them, maybe cause they are fairly new. Just wondering........ whats the better approach in this matter.
There is a big similarity with the K80, I think the barrels are made at the same factory ? Correct ?
No.
Hi LIoyd when Kolar Max Lite .Thank You
Hey Wolverine, I would love to look at a Kolar but they are like hens teeth in the UK, if I can get one I will for sure review it.
thank you
beauty
Thanks for watching.
Very nice review. It seems like a very promissing shotgun. There are complains that these guns do pierce primers. Have you ever heard of that issue or from your experience with the gun? Thank you.
Not personally no, I actually heard the same thing while I was an F3 owner and I made a point of checking primers every time I changed cartridges for a while and I never once saw a pierced primer. Of course that's my experience with my guns and the guns I have tested, I cant speak for every gun that comes off the production line.
Would you give us the shell brand you used with the gun? The primers were steel or brass? Thanks again. You are making great reviews-videos, keep up, i think i watched all of them.
Αναστασία Χατζησούκου thank you :). At the time I was shooting a lot of eley superb, and game bore velocity. Don’t know what the primer composition was though.
Having the opportunity to test so many shotguns, what's your prefered barrel lengh of a sporting o/u? It's personal i know but it gives an idea.
Depends on the gun to be honest, there isn't a magic barrel length that works, it's about how the gun balances and how you like it to feel.
Can you do a review on a Zoli z sport hr11
I would need to get hold of one first, I've been waiting a year so far.
@@lloydyp really!!! Cause I'm deciding whether to go for f3 vantage or zoli hr11
This, dt11 or k80?
What are you shooting at the moment?
Lloyd Pattison DTL and olympic trap. Started with DTL and are transitioning to Olympic trap atm
And what gun?
Lloyd Pattison I have a 525 sporting because I used to shoot sporting, but I have done trap for some time now and saved up some money for a new gun
Buying new or second hand?
Hi Lloyd you got a supersport video 😬
I don't actually, never reviewed the supersport.
Lloyd Pattison want to borrow mine?!
@@gazunkafonegazunkafone3492 Nah, I'll get hold of one eventually.
Lloyd Pattison no worries! Love the videos think they are super informative 👍🏻
Hi love the video ,l have not been shooting that long so l don't understand the comment about fibre wads as that's all l can shoot where I go and would love to have an F3
+bromkin 12ga nominal diameter is 18.4mm, so if a gun is overbored to say 18.7 and you shoot fibre wads that do not expand there is potentially a tiny gap around the wad. To be honest unless you are shooting at a really high level I doubt you will notice a loss of muzzle velocity.
Cheers for getting back to me I see what you mean now . I would love to know your opinion of a DT 11 if you get the chance to review it.
Funny you should say that but I have a DT11 for review right now. Stay tuned to see the review :)
haw much Rop
You mentioned that the depreciation on the vantage is not a lot. I have seen a lot of 2017 models selling for between £4750 and £5500. Most are in superb condition. To me, that is a hefty loss for a premium gun. I have actually enquired about one but this is a bit off putting.
I'm afraid I don't get your point, the vantage new is 6k, that's pretty strong second hand money to my mind.
@@lloydyp hello again. Yes, I understand what your saying. Don't get me wrong, I am still considering upgrading to one. It's just that, for example, I have a Browning Ultra XS and was offered only £100 less for it a year after I bought it and that was from a dealer so the 2 year old Blaser prices compared to new is quite a loss. Having said that, like I said I will still be looking into investing in one given their build quality and reviews. Thanks for your video reviews . They are a great help.
@@colincassie1 I think you are basing your opinion off too small a sample size, you lose 20% of a guns value as soon as you walk out of a gun room on a new gun. Some guns when in high demand will be really strong but across the board you will lose money buying new trading in. If you buy a gun at 5k, use it then trade up to say something at 7k, expect the dealer to bid you 3.5 to 3.7 to sell your old gun between 4 to 4.5. dealers have to make margin or they won't be dealers for long.