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Agree. Got7 always were speaking their mind to each other if there was something unconvenient for a members, and often quarreling and fighting among each other publicly, so I don't think they have any untold grudges towards each other unlike all these groups that are always cheerfuly smiling on public keeping their image, but feeling unfair inside.
Gina speaks so articulately and gracefully that it’s mesmerising. Like from the first video itself I could see how she refrained from indulging into gossip and spoke plain facts.
She's a published author, she's clearly super smart. I'm so impressed by her. I feel like we all really missed out from her never debuting, but she'll still accomplish great things.
The bond I feel with mamamoo, bts and got7 feels very genuine to me...like they even admit they fight off stage but they always solve it together...I feel the family feeling from them...
@@dooh no while you're right but the thing is these particular grps esp btsxand mamamoo say things right on the face they can in future part ways but watch them keep meeting lol bc they've seen lows and highs together they don't have any insecurities even if they do you'll see them saying to each other on the face looooool
The way GOT7 talk about their fights in public while laughing like it's nothing explains how much their friendship is. Not only inside the group, all the members are super close with other idols too.
@@benndarayta9156 ikr. Even tho every kpop idol goes through a training together, it doesn't mean everyone will be friends forever. It depends on them.
i dont think people realize enough how close of a bond you would have to have as a group to leave a company together in unity and continue as a group on the outside. thats so incredibly rare
Western girl groups like spice girls, fifth harmony etc.. have openly admitted that they fight over certain things. Also I think most of us know the Camila situation (her being the most favoured member) and the other members being mistreated as a result of it. No doubt that kpop ggs have faced similar situations.
I strongly agree with u!!!!! I do feel like there will always be a fight w/in particular groups. What matter is how they'll respond to it. either leave the group or stay.
I love this kind of conversations coz it gives us a wider perspective about the production, and real stories behind the kpop industry and show business. More of these please Coco and Gina. 😊
i'm actually really thankful that bts worked on their differences. yoongi said before that they fought a lot when they were trainees and even after debut because of their clashing personalities but that made them closer. they're each other's family now. they balance each other out. even if you're not a fan you can really see how tight their bond is
@@leozackdestron1574 well thats your opinion. i can't force you to see things that you don't want to see. but saying that you're not delusional because you can't see their bond is implying that people who can are delusional. that's rude and uncalled for.
I see them talking about this stuff and I keep remembering that there was this video where Rosé seems a bit traumatised and depressed when thinking about trainee days, she literally said it was not a fun time at all and started crying.
@@julinazhang8216 not only YG trainees, but also almost all small companies....because small companies dont have enough money to buy or rent their trainees dorms
@@kylajayhermosa3497 yeah i also think smaller companies are more prone to have weird stuff going on like those mentioned in this video or coco's other vids. esp bc larger companies have more to lose they have to keep it more professional
@@victoriadealba5558 maybe, i've watched so many videos i don't remember where exactly but it was a video of her crying when talking about trainee days and saying it wasnt really that much of a fun time, but it was short, try seeing in the videos they have in their channel, like the 24/365 and others.
This may be taboo for koreans to discuss but I'm curious. Are there lgbt couples that exist within girl groups or boy groups? Does this happen more than usual and how do they handle it?
Tbh, I wouldn’t be surprised. Some idols grow up with each other and at times (like at YG) boys and girls can’t interact with each other. So it’s possible some would experiment or be bicurious with each other.
some idols have opened up about being in a lgbt relationship beforee bc i saw an article once of this ex gg member who revealed that she was bi and in a relationship
I think I read about a first Gen boy group(I can't remember the name - -) where 2 members were in a relationship. But one of them was caught cheating and the other was basically assault him when he discovered so the group end up disbanding. And I remember hearing a rumor about a gay blind item back in 2015/2016 apparently from a A list boy group 🤷♀️ I think there is definitely some LGBT idols but it's probably very hard for them.
Watching vid like this and other confessions of ex-kpop idols, you will never can really conclude the relationship between the members esp off cam. What we see on screen are usually the things that they want us to see. The personality and stuff that we know about them are only a little part of who they really are. However, I still would like to point out there are also groups who seem very close and consider each other more than as colleagues, and concrete evidence for this is when the group disbands or goes to indefinite hiatus, they still see or communicate each other and can freely talk about each other. Example: SNDS [OT8], Sistar, Girl's Day [OT4],.. and most recently GOT7.
...what about 2ne1? Sure they aren't always together but they still talk of or to the old members from time to time.And I'm sure they might talk or interact more without people knowing.
the thing about gg groups having it hard to make friends is so true because when I see videos of some gg together they really don't have any chemistry and just act like colleagues. Like they are comfortable around each other but not enough to say they're friends
Not all group of course, i mean girls generation, 2ne1 maintain that friendship they have, i think whats truly happening is the favoritism within the group like for example your all in the group and you all consider them friends but among those friends you have this best-best friend you always want to be with whether its off work /day off.
if you want to know a groups that have the best chemistry with each other, i think GFriend is one of the sample, since they are no one who want to stand out in that group, and no jealousy, and since they are the only group in their agency
I feel sorry for those trainees that end up for nothing I know it's not easy life but I really have a huge respect of every trainees who debuted whether in a small company or in the big 4 company I know it's not an easy journey by giving up their education and their youth that supposed to be living like in a normal life and lots of sacrifices..
I feel like a group like blackpink is different because when it comes to wadrope, they all have a brand they are representing. When it comes to hairstyles, they all have different tastes. When it comes to parts in a song, rose & jisoo are up for d vocals, jennie & lisa for d raps. Jisoo takes lisa home & sometimes they have dinner dates with their parents. In my opinion, they just kinda work. MAMAMOO feels different too. Whee in & hwasa being friends since high school & moonbyul literally lives in solar's house
Do you think the number of members has anything to do with it? I feel like the more members a group has, the more conflict will happen. It’s the same with friendships, like in a 3-way friendship, one will always be or feel left out.
@@sUjU91 definitely has something to do with it. Also blackpink had a very long waiting before debut. So they had time to form a friendship before work overtook their lives unlike others that they just put together after a year or two of training together. They trained together for over 4years that explains the bond
@@Samsimple104 it isn't declining, we just don't see them as we used to. They barely have activities together now. They all have various types of solo gigs. They don't live together again except they have a schedule together. Then they are adults now & their popularity is so much more so this makes them a lot more reserved & secretive than before so they can enjoy their private lives with media interference
@@Samsimple104 I feel this to! I don’t think it’s jealousy but I do feel like something happened behind the scenes because every time they are together it just gets awkward sometimes. Like in THE SHOW at the end it just seemed awkward when they were talking about each other’s stages and stuff. But that’s just me
The reality check is soo necessary! The fan base is so young and can be oblivious to so many facts. Crushing as it maybe be to so many fantasies, it is very necessary so people will remember that the most important person on their lives is themselves.
Probably people who surprise they're close didn't know about them, they just know them as general. Also because every GOT7 members have strong individual charms and each of them have solo activities, that's why people not expect that they're really close to each other. But if you're their fans, you know their bond are strong, even their parents close to each others.
If you ain't a fan of that group you'll be surprised. Luckily I'm an ahgase for quite long so I'm not even suprised to see how close they are to each other 😌💚
Not being biased, but they do have the strongest bond I've ever seen among groups (not just kpop). Even Yugyeom was surprised when he found out that there are not many groups whose members hang out as much as them
got7 really has a great bond tho and we can really see their sincerity and honesty cause they really love each other and are never afraid to tell us stories about them fighting over trivial things and always joke about them . i stan amazing ppl
But it's different for boy groups. I feel like they will have way less drama. It's cause girls are girls. For example, in all of my 16 years of life I have witnessed a lot of girl drama and like one guys drama.
I think having a good leader who keeps their members grounded is the most important thing. Also, like what Jaehyun from NCT said *"it's easy to get along* (with so many members) *because we all have the same goal"* like what Gina said ✨
Imagine all the competition WITH THEM ALL BEING DEHYDRATED AND MALNUTRITIONED (from your other video). the hormones imbalance cannot be good for team building.
between all the idols, can you tell which groups have problems and don't get along? and are there rumors about idols in between the idol "community"? (for example, rumors that fans and the public dont see, it's only between the idols and staff.) if so, share a big rumor you remember. Lol you don't have to either! :) and for obvious reasons, keep it anonymous!
Most rumours actually came from staff. Fans like hardcore fans, stalkers or sasaeng mostly know what's going on between idol's but they decided too keep quiet. They know because sasaeng always stalking for like 24/7, and hardcore fans always recording their idol on live event. Peniel from BTOB once said "rumours mostly came from the staff so be good to your staff"
BTS had this talk in one of their movies. They mentioned how they’re so lucky that they genuinely like each other as friends, family and even colleagues. Jungkook mentioned something intriguing, he said some groups don’t even like each other or often fight. That boy knows some tea😳 They were able to stick together for nearly 8 years (debut) and with some it had been a decade (pre-debut) together. All seven have distinct and different personalities, they clashed at first. I mean what do you expect staying with the same members 24/7 in a small cramped apartment while stressing over what will happen to your future?? They were teenage boys, fights are bond to happen. But as a group they lasted long because they THOUGHT about the group first. They are so selfless and ready to hype up a member. This is why they’re so successful as well. As corny as this may sound but its the power of friendship bestie. If you constantly try to one up the other you will not be a big group. Nope. You won’t last long and your impact is none. No wonder most idol groups fail, its because the group itself does not act like a group or the company’s values are so off that competition had ruined the group before it even started. An example of a group that has stuck together for so long is Little Mix. They’re a western girl group not kpop or anything but they’ve been together for nearly 10 years, they’re still active. And guess what they thought was the most important factor in being successful and having longevity? Friendship. Guess what BTS also said that had them still together? Yes bestie its friendship and teamwork. They told TXT (tomorrow x together pronounced as tomorrow by together) that teamwork was so important. Your greed pulls down not only the group but yourself.
I think it's about connections, like if your groupmate has a friend on the other group they can introduce you to their groupmate also and that is where they know each other. I also think like they know who are dating they just don't mind them. As what I remembered, yulhee was introduced to minhwan at the backstage of a music show and I think it is just like other idols. We don't know what is really happening at their waiting areas or backstages during music shows.
@@tishaanabelleferranco7567 i saw an ex-idol explaining how it works and it is basically what you said. her channel is soobeanie (idk if i wrote it right but you probably gonna find it anyway by typing this) and she has a lot of videos called "idol insider" where she talks abt a lot of stuff of when she was part of a girlgroup edit: alsooo there is a podcast channel called "dive studios" where some idols (bm kard, peniel btob, eric nam, jamie, day6 jae, alexa.... and other more that i cant remember the name right now sorry) talks abt a lot of idol stuff too. they talked abt dating in one of the podcasts and said kinda the same things too (and spilled a lot of tea lol) this is a mess, im sorry. english is not my first language
@@periwinkle1590 i was trying to look for it but i really don't remember which video it was... im so sorry. but try to search for "dive studios get real relationships" ("get real" is the name of bm's, ashley choi's and peniel's podcast/"show")
I’m pretty sure SHINee have mentioned they do it like this too It seems like it really helps groups last a long time - like you’re still friends, but it’s a working relationship and you’re there to be colleagues, not besties
@@karregege defnitely, i think for example, Apink been with each others 10 years plus training day. They must have understand each others enough to keep the group moving. at some point, they have to start create their own brand for their name and personal style. but still keeping such a strong bond
1.34 - Lots of people watched the video, because, while they follow K-Pop, they aren't doing so mindlessly. They obviously want to know more about the industry, beyond the "everything is peachy" narrative that is being pushed on them. So, thank you, to you and Gina for speaking up, and sharing your experiences.
As being a old k-pop fan I can confidently tell that there is no other gg who is confidential and close to each other like MAMAMOO they are the live example of how the friendship works there're always together having more than 3 tattoos of friendship , kissing ( on lips ) live so many times on official screen and so the list goes on ........ I wish I can get friendship like Wheesa or moonsun 😌
@@preethanadig6252 yeah but don't underestimate moonsun they live together allmost every time They are very wild with eachother other ❤️ tbh in mamamoo they all have very strong ship with all members 😂
Business is business not everyone you meet in life you will get along with or like and that's the case with some idols and some groups energy and vibes can be easily spotted and it seems like in girl groups with so many members tensions and fights will occur on an often bases , but after a while people will accept in the end it's just business not a social call.
Mamamoo does seem really close but I feel like the group has things happening beneath the immediate surface that isn't very noticeable at first. Small hints here and there about the group's chemistry and relationship between the members.
I mean it's lots of different personalities meshing together. BTS are super close but that didn't happen overnight. Everyone has to make the effort and not everyone will want to, some people will just wanna keep it professional and that's honestly understandable.
I also want to say something to those who are not BTS fans or anything. Its one of the things BTS said on how they solve fights and how it kept their teamwork so strong after all these years. They do not let any fight go unsolve. You and that member have to fix whatever issue it was ASAP. If its something that can’t be solved today, then lets solve it tomorrow. Because any fight in between two members affect the WHOLE group. This they knew! Which is why when the two members argument go out of hand they’ll have a group meeting in which they help the two resolve whatever issue it was while hugging it out. They even joked that petty fights were solved by shoving the members who fought in one room and hold hands (developed through the years). My point is, the way you tackle fights will affect the group a lot. There are no place for grudges in BTS, and I hope its the case for more groups. Learning how to put your pride aside and own up to your own mistake is a sacrifice someone has to make. If you let it boil down it will affect the group negatively. There may be group members that won’t ever get along and would only treat each other as colleagues or acquaintances. But at the end of the day, fans will be drawn to groups who are genuinely friends and not only colleagues. So take it with a grain of salt, I conclude that groups who know how to balance friendship and being colleagues are the best while those who keep a cold distance from each other will most likely fail and leave zero impact.
Like when she said they get closer when it's over, I can't help but feel that's the case too for groups where their popularity already peaked, e.g. super successful 2nd gen groups. It's easier to get close when the sense of competition has been dulled by the camaraderie of surviving the best/worst of idol fame. SM for me has the most obvious tension and lack of real friendship at peak activity. It feels like they only learn to enjoy each other's company once the peak passed. I feel like there's a lot of internal competition there lol. JYP seems to be the one where there is greatest effort to get along between members -- leading to a very strong bond like got7 or even very strong professional bonds like 2PM, WG, MissA and, I suspect, Twice. YG, esp the younger gens, can be downright cruel to each other. I get the vibe that not only is there internal competition, there's also some favoritism from up-high. I don't doubt there are true friends there, but Idk that it's always the whole group.
EXID has a great relationship too. The chemistry between the members and how they treat each other like family is what attracted me to stan the group ❤️❤️
MOST kpop idols are chaebols/super rich. I wonder if rich trainees really have more privileges??? Does it make them more likely to debut? Is there a difference in the company's treatment?
talking about the clothing and hair is so interesting bc it makes me wonder if some members pick the outfit they like but it isn’t as flattering 😭 I hope stylists in kpop just try to make everyone unique and gorgeous
the part where she said they act like colleagues & work hard when they need to, that's really true tbh if u stan a lot of older gen groups, u can see which group would still meet each other & who don't lol
Can you tell from vlives and other interactions between a group that they are genuine friends or just for business or just can't stand each other?? I do feel certain vibes from some groups that they aren't close enough (and that's not wrong). It's hard to expect anyway.
The only girl group that I truly believe that have a strong friendship is Twice.. In an interview they said that they preferred the rising of the group instead of the rising of specific members, so yeah it makes sense
Well, TWICE have a few traditions which make it simple to avoid some of the stuff mentioned here, right? They do the majority of their stuff by age order (makeup, styling, even MV shoots), so that gets rid of the fighting over hair and makeup positions. Nayeon (the eldest) also usually takes the Verse 1 'A' part, for valid reasons of face and singing skill as well as age. (Though the younger members all claim that she's ranked #9 or #8 in the internal pecking order of authority, and she plays along with that.) And they all have extremely distinct personalities and characters, which makes it less likely for the members to overlap. So it's a combination of professionalism as well as friendship. And they each also have friends and hobbies outside the group which help to keep things balanced.
I'm loving this inside baseball. All the inside goss. As a side note being a blink that's what I love so much about them, they're all friends, they're close, there's no backstabbing, no scheming. And it shows in the end product. I hope you guys make more content like this. Really love the insight.
You girls are so adorable! Loved this video! It's crazy to hear all those stories, It's really sad that the competition turns some artists into divas or mean girls. Can't wait for the next video! 💗
The only ggs that I believe have strong bonding are Mamamoo and Twice, ofcourse they will have fights and arguments even they spoke about it in variety shows but that shows they're like family, Jihyo too accepted that they've fights but also said that they understand eachother well, I also remember her saying a member's success means my success, my success means their success (you can checkout the documentary "seized the light").
I feel like most of the cases are just misunderstandings and the classmates start to spread rumors for clout and out of jealousy because the accused idols are successful u never see that happening with the smaller groups so that says a lot For example for soojin's case the "victim " says in her post that because she saw that soojin is getting more famous each day and gaining fans she couldn't handle seeing her on TV and she thought that soojin didn't deserve the attention she was getting because of her past actions that's why the girl chose to expose her
You mean the human beings that were once idiots kids and then joined the entertainment industry? 🤔. Unless these people are still bullies I think we gotta understand even if we don't forgive them that once upon a time these guys were stupid kids.
@@Rilaccoco for sure i'll be on the look out for it. I will share it on my youtube channel for my subscribers to see and get to know a little bit about you as well :).
Actually this made me also kinda curious about members relationships in boybands or co ed groups too. Like I know they have to keep it professional too so do they tend to pair up two of the most famous or I guess shiped members for interactions? I feel like the more maintained friendships in groups are the ones that don’t have a lot of interaction on screen.
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GOT7 left their company together and stayed as a group. That's the strongest bond right there
Agree. Got7 always were speaking their mind to each other if there was something unconvenient for a members, and often quarreling and fighting among each other publicly, so I don't think they have any untold grudges towards each other unlike all these groups that are always cheerfuly smiling on public keeping their image, but feeling unfair inside.
genuinely hoping blackpink are able to do this too.
will always have great respect for the sevens for being the most sincere and honest ppl
I'm so proud of them 🤧
@@TheHadaweenHallaween yeah right
Gina speaks so articulately and gracefully that it’s mesmerising. Like from the first video itself I could see how she refrained from indulging into gossip and spoke plain facts.
true!
She's a published author, she's clearly super smart. I'm so impressed by her. I feel like we all really missed out from her never debuting, but she'll still accomplish great things.
Imagine NCT with 23 members and counting... kudos to the people behind their styling, hair & makeup, drivers, etc 😭
But since they are divided in 4 sections it's not that much of a problem
@@mitalijagetia867 But when they're all together...
tripleS with their 24 members ^^''
Imagine fighting for a hairstyle just for fans to make fun of you 💀💀
😭✋🏽 i can't lol
I imagined how a 12 member Izone would handle wardrobe, hair styling, and recording. wow
Right😭😂
I dont wanna believe this, but I think they didn't go along that well
@@hanchoeun7265 oh really I didn't know that
I see it as well
they prob played rock paper scissor or something, it really doesn't look like they would start fighting. Don't know about other groups tho
The bond I feel with mamamoo, bts and got7 feels very genuine to me...like they even admit they fight off stage but they always solve it together...I feel the family feeling from them...
Yup cause they worked on it and it's kept them together for a long time. But that's not gonna be for everyone
you never know.. "feeling" is not knowing..
@@dooh but unnecessarily questioning something like you just did is just a waste of time so enjoy what you get or feel 😊😊
Exo and twice too
@@dooh no while you're right but the thing is these particular grps esp btsxand mamamoo say things right on the face they can in future part ways but watch them keep meeting lol bc they've seen lows and highs together they don't have any insecurities even if they do you'll see them saying to each other on the face looooool
Not me focusing on coco's bread the whole video 🤤
I thought I was the only one😂😂
😂😂😂😂
It looked so yummy!
Lmao same
Do you know what type it is?
The way GOT7 talk about their fights in public while laughing like it's nothing explains how much their friendship is. Not only inside the group, all the members are super close with other idols too.
That's what training together for years does
@@benndarayta9156 ikr. Even tho every kpop idol goes through a training together, it doesn't mean everyone will be friends forever. It depends on them.
i dont think people realize enough how close of a bond you would have to have as a group to leave a company together in unity and continue as a group on the outside. thats so incredibly rare
10:37 “they don’t know each other’s phone number..” this kinda like every episode of NCT it’s awkward but it’s okay.. lol 😂
Ouch exclude WayV from that tho
Hahahaha it's true. Tbh, i also don't know most of my closest friends number and house address but I can go there I just don't know the exact address.
i don't even know my closest friends' birthdays 😭
Western girl groups like spice girls, fifth harmony etc.. have openly admitted that they fight over certain things. Also I think most of us know the Camila situation (her being the most favoured member) and the other members being mistreated as a result of it. No doubt that kpop ggs have faced similar situations.
I strongly agree with u!!!!! I do feel like there will always be a fight w/in particular groups. What matter is how they'll respond to it. either leave the group or stay.
I love this kind of conversations coz it gives us a wider perspective about the production, and real stories behind the kpop industry and show business. More of these please Coco and Gina. 😊
thank you for watching! :) please stay tuned for part 3 next week!
i'm actually really thankful that bts worked on their differences. yoongi said before that they fought a lot when they were trainees and even after debut because of their clashing personalities but that made them closer. they're each other's family now. they balance each other out. even if you're not a fan you can really see how tight their bond is
I can't see it. And I don't believe them, I am an army by the way oops, but I am not a delusional army.
@@leozackdestron1574 well sweetie that is a very you-opinion without any evidence to support your 'non-delusion'
@@leozackdestron1574 well thats your opinion. i can't force you to see things that you don't want to see. but saying that you're not delusional because you can't see their bond is implying that people who can are delusional. that's rude and uncalled for.
@@leozackdestron1574 lmao stfu you’re not an army. Or maybe you are and you’re completely blind.
@@leozackdestron1574 that’s sad😩you probably don’t have friends so you don’t know real friendship.
I see them talking about this stuff and I keep remembering that there was this video where Rosé seems a bit traumatised and depressed when thinking about trainee days, she literally said it was not a fun time at all and started crying.
I feel YG trainees in particular go through hell before debuting ... of course only a few get to debut
@@julinazhang8216 not only YG trainees, but also almost all small companies....because small companies dont have enough money to buy or rent their trainees dorms
@@kylajayhermosa3497 yeah i also think smaller companies are more prone to have weird stuff going on like those mentioned in this video or coco's other vids. esp bc larger companies have more to lose they have to keep it more professional
Was that of the documental Netflix released?
@@victoriadealba5558 maybe, i've watched so many videos i don't remember where exactly but it was a video of her crying when talking about trainee days and saying it wasnt really that much of a fun time, but it was short, try seeing in the videos they have in their channel, like the 24/365 and others.
This may be taboo for koreans to discuss but I'm curious. Are there lgbt couples that exist within girl groups or boy groups? Does this happen more than usual and how do they handle it?
Tbh, I wouldn’t be surprised. Some idols grow up with each other and at times (like at YG) boys and girls can’t interact with each other. So it’s possible some would experiment or be bicurious with each other.
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As a bi i was curious about this too
some idols have opened up about being in a lgbt relationship beforee bc i saw an article once of this ex gg member who revealed that she was bi and in a relationship
I think I read about a first Gen boy group(I can't remember the name - -) where 2 members were in a relationship. But one of them was caught cheating and the other was basically assault him when he discovered so the group end up disbanding.
And I remember hearing a rumor about a gay blind item back in 2015/2016 apparently from a A list boy group 🤷♀️
I think there is definitely some LGBT idols but it's probably very hard for them.
@@sUjU91 sis, is just normal to find homosexual people, is not an experiment lol
Watching vid like this and other confessions of ex-kpop idols, you will never can really conclude the relationship between the members esp off cam. What we see on screen are usually the things that they want us to see. The personality and stuff that we know about them are only a little part of who they really are. However, I still would like to point out there are also groups who seem very close and consider each other more than as colleagues, and concrete evidence for this is when the group disbands or goes to indefinite hiatus, they still see or communicate each other and can freely talk about each other. Example: SNDS [OT8], Sistar, Girl's Day [OT4],.. and most recently GOT7.
take sister out of that group. and got7
@@JenCruz. ???? wdym
@@JenCruz. what?
...what about 2ne1?
Sure they aren't always together but they still talk of or to the old members from time to time.And I'm sure they might talk or interact more without people knowing.
@@JenCruz. She said the D word But also said on hiatus which is the case of GOT7 rn
the thing about gg groups having it hard to make friends is so true because when I see videos of some gg together they really don't have any chemistry and just act like colleagues. Like they are comfortable around each other but not enough to say they're friends
Don’t be shy name a group 😂 (I want to know)
@@blueharmony3096 omg who?
Not all group of course, i mean girls generation, 2ne1 maintain that friendship they have, i think whats truly happening is the favoritism within the group like for example your all in the group and you all consider them friends but among those friends you have this best-best friend you always want to be with whether its off work /day off.
dont be shy spill the tea
if you want to know a groups that have the best chemistry with each other, i think GFriend is one of the sample, since they are no one who want to stand out in that group, and no jealousy, and since they are the only group in their agency
I feel sorry for those trainees that end up for nothing I know it's not easy life but I really have a huge respect of every trainees who debuted whether in a small company or in the big 4 company I know it's not an easy journey by giving up their education and their youth that supposed to be living like in a normal life and lots of sacrifices..
I feel like a group like blackpink is different because when it comes to wadrope, they all have a brand they are representing. When it comes to hairstyles, they all have different tastes. When it comes to parts in a song, rose & jisoo are up for d vocals, jennie & lisa for d raps. Jisoo takes lisa home & sometimes they have dinner dates with their parents. In my opinion, they just kinda work.
MAMAMOO feels different too. Whee in & hwasa being friends since high school & moonbyul literally lives in solar's house
Yes and i dont no it’s sad «just for the work » sorry for my bad english i am french
Do you think the number of members has anything to do with it? I feel like the more members a group has, the more conflict will happen. It’s the same with friendships, like in a 3-way friendship, one will always be or feel left out.
@@sUjU91 definitely has something to do with it. Also blackpink had a very long waiting before debut. So they had time to form a friendship before work overtook their lives unlike others that they just put together after a year or two of training together. They trained together for over 4years that explains the bond
@@Samsimple104 it isn't declining, we just don't see them as we used to. They barely have activities together now. They all have various types of solo gigs. They don't live together again except they have a schedule together. Then they are adults now & their popularity is so much more so this makes them a lot more reserved & secretive than before so they can enjoy their private lives with media interference
@@Samsimple104 I feel this to! I don’t think it’s jealousy but I do feel like something happened behind the scenes because every time they are together it just gets awkward sometimes. Like in THE SHOW at the end it just seemed awkward when they were talking about each other’s stages and stuff. But that’s just me
The reality check is soo necessary! The fan base is so young and can be oblivious to so many facts. Crushing as it maybe be to so many fantasies, it is very necessary so people will remember that the most important person on their lives is themselves.
I know it's not related but you both are so gorgeous
aww thank you so much!
No wonder people are surprised about how close Got7 members actually really were?
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Probably people who surprise they're close didn't know about them, they just know them as general. Also because every GOT7 members have strong individual charms and each of them have solo activities, that's why people not expect that they're really close to each other.
But if you're their fans, you know their bond are strong, even their parents close to each others.
They fought it out and became really close 😂
If you ain't a fan of that group you'll be surprised. Luckily I'm an ahgase for quite long so I'm not even suprised to see how close they are to each other 😌💚
Not being biased, but they do have the strongest bond I've ever seen among groups (not just kpop). Even Yugyeom was surprised when he found out that there are not many groups whose members hang out as much as them
got7 really has a great bond tho and we can really see their sincerity and honesty cause they really love each other and are never afraid to tell us stories about them fighting over trivial things and always joke about them . i stan amazing ppl
But it's different for boy groups. I feel like they will have way less drama. It's cause girls are girls. For example, in all of my 16 years of life I have witnessed a lot of girl drama and like one guys drama.
I think having a good leader who keeps their members grounded is the most important thing. Also, like what Jaehyun from NCT said *"it's easy to get along* (with so many members) *because we all have the same goal"* like what Gina said ✨
I really love these videos. It really shows how not everything is perfect and like what we see in kpop
glad to give you a different perspective :)
@@Rilaccoco thank you🤗🤗💜💜
I’m so very curious about a boys perspective as well. Do you have any boy ex trainee friends to join in?
Imagine all the competition WITH THEM ALL BEING DEHYDRATED AND MALNUTRITIONED (from your other video). the hormones imbalance cannot be good for team building.
She seemed so wise that we believed her to be 55 Oml 😂
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between all the idols, can you tell which groups have problems and don't get along? and are there rumors about idols in between the idol "community"? (for example, rumors that fans and the public dont see, it's only between the idols and staff.) if so, share a big rumor you remember. Lol you don't have to either! :) and for obvious reasons, keep it anonymous!
Most rumours actually came from staff. Fans like hardcore fans, stalkers or sasaeng mostly know what's going on between idol's but they decided too keep quiet. They know because sasaeng always stalking for like 24/7, and hardcore fans always recording their idol on live event. Peniel from BTOB once said "rumours mostly came from the staff so be good to your staff"
@@eyedressdrivin obviously no names :) im not a messed up fan lol
BTS had this talk in one of their movies.
They mentioned how they’re so lucky that they genuinely like each other as friends, family and even colleagues.
Jungkook mentioned something intriguing, he said some groups don’t even like each other or often fight. That boy knows some tea😳
They were able to stick together for nearly 8 years (debut) and with some it had been a decade (pre-debut) together.
All seven have distinct and different personalities, they clashed at first. I mean what do you expect staying with the same members 24/7 in a small cramped apartment while stressing over what will happen to your future?? They were teenage boys, fights are bond to happen.
But as a group they lasted long because they THOUGHT about the group first. They are so selfless and ready to hype up a member. This is why they’re so successful as well.
As corny as this may sound but its the power of friendship bestie. If you constantly try to one up the other you will not be a big group. Nope. You won’t last long and your impact is none.
No wonder most idol groups fail, its because the group itself does not act like a group or the company’s values are so off that competition had ruined the group before it even started.
An example of a group that has stuck together for so long is Little Mix. They’re a western girl group not kpop or anything but they’ve been together for nearly 10 years, they’re still active. And guess what they thought was the most important factor in being successful and having longevity? Friendship.
Guess what BTS also said that had them still together? Yes bestie its friendship and teamwork. They told TXT (tomorrow x together pronounced as tomorrow by together) that teamwork was so important.
Your greed pulls down not only the group but yourself.
Do idols know who other idols are dating? Is it easy to make idol friends as an idol?
I think it's about connections, like if your groupmate has a friend on the other group they can introduce you to their groupmate also and that is where they know each other. I also think like they know who are dating they just don't mind them. As what I remembered, yulhee was introduced to minhwan at the backstage of a music show and I think it is just like other idols. We don't know what is really happening at their waiting areas or backstages during music shows.
btw, is she a traineeee or and she's saying whats been happening? im confused.
@@tishaanabelleferranco7567 i saw an ex-idol explaining how it works and it is basically what you said. her channel is soobeanie (idk if i wrote it right but you probably gonna find it anyway by typing this) and she has a lot of videos called "idol insider" where she talks abt a lot of stuff of when she was part of a girlgroup
edit: alsooo there is a podcast channel called "dive studios" where some idols (bm kard, peniel btob, eric nam, jamie, day6 jae, alexa.... and other more that i cant remember the name right now sorry) talks abt a lot of idol stuff too. they talked abt dating in one of the podcasts and said kinda the same things too (and spilled a lot of tea lol)
this is a mess, im sorry. english is not my first language
@@tais6398 hi, do u mind giving me the link of the dive studios video? 😅
@@periwinkle1590 i was trying to look for it but i really don't remember which video it was... im so sorry. but try to search for "dive studios get real relationships" ("get real" is the name of bm's, ashley choi's and peniel's podcast/"show")
I think Apink is the kind of group who keep it very business like
which has helped them last a long time.
Brown eyed girls straight up admitting they do that lol. Apink also i think is one of those but they never made it clear that they did
I’m pretty sure SHINee have mentioned they do it like this too
It seems like it really helps groups last a long time - like you’re still friends, but it’s a working relationship and you’re there to be colleagues, not besties
i think so too but at the same time they are close and care for eachother aswell, maybe more so that they separate their business and their friendship
@@karregege defnitely, i think for example, Apink been with each others 10 years plus training day. They must have understand each others enough to keep the group moving. at some point, they have to start create their own brand for their name and personal style. but still keeping such a strong bond
Might sound biased but GOT7 get the best friendship and bond ever.
agreed
spitting facts right here
My impression of kpop idols just fell to the floor and my dreams just got shattered.
1.34 - Lots of people watched the video, because, while they follow K-Pop, they aren't doing so mindlessly.
They obviously want to know more about the industry, beyond the "everything is peachy" narrative that is being pushed on them.
So, thank you, to you and Gina for speaking up, and sharing your experiences.
Watching this makes me really realize how precious Mamamoo’s relationship with each other is. Just too precious 😭
The vid i didnt know i needed so much. I was so entertained through the whole vid!!! looking forward to next parts.
i love this series so much! so excited for future updates!
part 3 will be up next week!
omg the teaaaaa. you both are so well spoken, makes it even better. i cant wait for part 3
gfriend car sitting position is they'll play rock paper scissors and they playfully play it haha
This video kinda reminds me of a quote "women's worst enemies are women"
Ok, replies, i just wanna say that it just reminded me of that quote, relax
True. Thats scary
@@sophiebloom7211 & sad
Yes
It's more with girls than with boys...
@Rhea Singh trust me. Y'all fight with out the help of society
Gina and Coco are stunning, real and well articulated. This is the first video I watch from them, one of many...
As being a old k-pop fan I can confidently tell that there is no other gg who is confidential and close to each other like MAMAMOO they are the live example of how the friendship works there're always together having more than 3 tattoos of friendship , kissing ( on lips ) live so many times on official screen and so the list goes on ........
I wish I can get friendship like Wheesa or moonsun 😌
They are good with each other..but wheein n hwasa are super close
@@preethanadig6252 yeah but don't underestimate moonsun they live together allmost every time
They are very wild with eachother other ❤️ tbh in mamamoo they all have very strong ship with all members 😂
Facts🤗
Is hwasa close with moonbyul? Im not a fan but i like to follow some of their videos..
I am not a fan of them but I can tell they are so close with each other
The way she talks about the recordings, I have heard BTS talk about this before. So it's like this for a lot of groups.
They had 700 comments and questions....and they got through one.....
There is enough content here for hundreds of videos. Lol.
sipping on the tea while waiting for your upcoming iced americano of a music video 😊👌
aww thank you ren!
I accidentally read “simping on tea” and I was confused because I didn’t know what that meant, but then I realized you wrote “sipping on tea”
Omg I literally just watched pt.1 yesterday as I just found your channel and was like "man, I cant wait for pt.2"
part 3 will be up next week :)
Business is business not everyone you meet in life you will get along with or like and that's the case with some idols and some groups energy and vibes can be easily spotted and it seems like in girl groups with so many members tensions and fights will occur on an often bases , but after a while people will accept in the end it's just business not a social call.
MAMAMOO and Twice seem like two girl groups who are actually really really close
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True, like I can see them still being friends even after their idols life
Facts I agree
Mamamoo does seem really close but I feel like the group has things happening beneath the immediate surface that isn't very noticeable at first. Small hints here and there about the group's chemistry and relationship between the members.
And here I thought that groups are actually close to each other.
I mean it's lots of different personalities meshing together. BTS are super close but that didn't happen overnight. Everyone has to make the effort and not everyone will want to, some people will just wanna keep it professional and that's honestly understandable.
this is the content I am living for!!!! 😭❤️
Just finished watching part 1 and found this!! 🤩
welcome!! :)
I LOVE THIS SERIES 💖💖🙏💖💖💖💖😭 this really helps those that idolize the life of a kpop trainee/idol
I also want to say something to those who are not BTS fans or anything. Its one of the things BTS said on how they solve fights and how it kept their teamwork so strong after all these years.
They do not let any fight go unsolve. You and that member have to fix whatever issue it was ASAP. If its something that can’t be solved today, then lets solve it tomorrow.
Because any fight in between two members affect the WHOLE group. This they knew! Which is why when the two members argument go out of hand they’ll have a group meeting in which they help the two resolve whatever issue it was while hugging it out.
They even joked that petty fights were solved by shoving the members who fought in one room and hold hands (developed through the years).
My point is, the way you tackle fights will affect the group a lot. There are no place for grudges in BTS, and I hope its the case for more groups.
Learning how to put your pride aside and own up to your own mistake is a sacrifice someone has to make. If you let it boil down it will affect the group negatively.
There may be group members that won’t ever get along and would only treat each other as colleagues or acquaintances. But at the end of the day, fans will be drawn to groups who are genuinely friends and not only colleagues. So take it with a grain of salt, I conclude that groups who know how to balance friendship and being colleagues are the best while those who keep a cold distance from each other will most likely fail and leave zero impact.
You're keeping us hydrated with all of this tea, THANK YOU ❤❤
A trainee watching this 👁️👄👁️ going straight to make a plan of knowing ever tea in the agency and have a plan to spill the tea if they didn't make it
shhhh.
Like when she said they get closer when it's over, I can't help but feel that's the case too for groups where their popularity already peaked, e.g. super successful 2nd gen groups. It's easier to get close when the sense of competition has been dulled by the camaraderie of surviving the best/worst of idol fame.
SM for me has the most obvious tension and lack of real friendship at peak activity. It feels like they only learn to enjoy each other's company once the peak passed. I feel like there's a lot of internal competition there lol.
JYP seems to be the one where there is greatest effort to get along between members -- leading to a very strong bond like got7 or even very strong professional bonds like 2PM, WG, MissA and, I suspect, Twice.
YG, esp the younger gens, can be downright cruel to each other. I get the vibe that not only is there internal competition, there's also some favoritism from up-high. I don't doubt there are true friends there, but Idk that it's always the whole group.
EXID has a great relationship too. The chemistry between the members and how they treat each other like family is what attracted me to stan the group ❤️❤️
MOST kpop idols are chaebols/super rich. I wonder if rich trainees really have more privileges??? Does it make them more likely to debut? Is there a difference in the company's treatment?
yes this one im curious too
YG has some of those chaebols. Like that Naver founder’s son.
@@zehrasufian who ? Is he debut yet ?
@@itarayou207 lorenisalone on Instagram. He’s the guy in BP’s Lovesick Girls
@@zehrasufian ah that guy is under the blacklabel and he’s more like music producer and songwriter too.
Every time Coco says 'oh my gawd' take a shot
Coco and Gina!!! My otp, tbh. I'm soo haply I found both of your channels!
thank you so much :)
I literally just wanna be your guys' best friend, you two seem like such sweethearts ❤️❤️
😍😍 I love your profile pic, so cute 😍😍💜💜
i’m in love with that new video series, already excited for the next part. 🥰🤍
will be up next week! :)
talking about the clothing and hair is so interesting bc it makes me wonder if some members pick the outfit they like but it isn’t as flattering 😭 I hope stylists in kpop just try to make everyone unique and gorgeous
the part where she said they act like colleagues & work hard when they need to, that's really true tbh if u stan a lot of older gen groups, u can see which group would still meet each other & who don't lol
Can you tell from vlives and other interactions between a group that they are genuine friends or just for business or just can't stand each other?? I do feel certain vibes from some groups that they aren't close enough (and that's not wrong). It's hard to expect anyway.
Me too
Which group?
@@pagulu9987 since it's a rookie type of a group. I will cut some slack. I have so many in mind btw
Name some
@@pagulu9987 cix,purple kiss,aespa.
The only girl group that I truly believe that have a strong friendship is Twice..
In an interview they said that they preferred the rising of the group instead of the rising of specific members, so yeah it makes sense
Well, TWICE have a few traditions which make it simple to avoid some of the stuff mentioned here, right? They do the majority of their stuff by age order (makeup, styling, even MV shoots), so that gets rid of the fighting over hair and makeup positions. Nayeon (the eldest) also usually takes the Verse 1 'A' part, for valid reasons of face and singing skill as well as age. (Though the younger members all claim that she's ranked #9 or #8 in the internal pecking order of authority, and she plays along with that.) And they all have extremely distinct personalities and characters, which makes it less likely for the members to overlap. So it's a combination of professionalism as well as friendship. And they each also have friends and hobbies outside the group which help to keep things balanced.
Cecilia Sanduay yeahhhh for me TWICE , red velvet, gfriend has the best friendship
& Red Velvet & GFriend
And Mamamoo, even they work solo activities they celebrate each other wins 👍
ITZY toooo
you are so sweet and wise :) I look forward to see yours next video.
Coco going after the pastry is totally me 🤣 Can’t wait for the next part!
I'm loving this inside baseball. All the inside goss. As a side note being a blink that's what I love so much about them, they're all friends, they're close, there's no backstabbing, no scheming. And it shows in the end product.
I hope you guys make more content like this. Really love the insight.
Is there a deciding factor for when you’ll sing live or lip sync?
we should cover this question in the future! time to spill some more teaaaa
@@Rilaccoco yes coco! I can’t wait :)
@@Rilaccoco yes I subscribed because of that video
I thought it was up to the show. Singing live adds complications.
jdbskdja I love this series. You are a good duo!
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Coco just getting wowed and having an epiphany with every sentence from Gina 😂😂
I can't believe how well produced this all is. So slick! And they do it all by themselves. No professional production needed!
Do companies sometimes bribe or cause scandals for groups in other companies that are their own artists competition?
Woah this is such a good question. I never thought about this...how scandalous 😯
I only watched this kind of situations in kdramas so I'm really curious about this too if this happens in real life too...
Up!
Totally enjoying the tea y’all giving us! Love itttt!!!
You girls are so adorable! Loved this video! It's crazy to hear all those stories, It's really sad that the competition turns some artists into divas or mean girls.
Can't wait for the next video! 💗
aww thanks so much for watching! stay tuned for part 3 next week! :) 💗
The only ggs that I believe have strong bonding are Mamamoo and Twice, ofcourse they will have fights and arguments even they spoke about it in variety shows but that shows they're like family, Jihyo too accepted that they've fights but also said that they understand eachother well, I also remember her saying a member's success means my success, my success means their success (you can checkout the documentary "seized the light").
waiting patiently for part 3 now :)
What are your thoughts on the bullies who became celebrities? Are some idols being framed or just them finally getting their karma?
I feel like most of the cases are just misunderstandings and the classmates start to spread rumors for clout and out of jealousy because the accused idols are successful u never see that happening with the smaller groups so that says a lot
For example for soojin's case the "victim " says in her post that because she saw that soojin is getting more famous each day and gaining fans she couldn't handle seeing her on TV and she thought that soojin didn't deserve the attention she was getting because of her past actions that's why the girl chose to expose her
You mean the human beings that were once idiots kids and then joined the entertainment industry? 🤔. Unless these people are still bullies I think we gotta understand even if we don't forgive them that once upon a time these guys were stupid kids.
Great Video. I enjoyed listening to your conversation. Also, sounds like things are starting to get better for you and your music career. Best wishes.
thanks so much! check out my release on all music platforms on the 21st of February!
@@Rilaccoco for sure i'll be on the look out for it. I will share it on my youtube channel for my subscribers to see and get to know a little bit about you as well :).
You two have a really good conversation vibe! I enjoy listening to you both.
at 14:14 gina and coco turn their head at the same time and were like "where's the logic??"
the way korean people voice change when they speak korean is ........ 😶
the insights were super interesting!
Yeey part two ! Thank you for making this video and have a nice weekend everyone !
So happy to see Gina 🌻
Yay! Gina's back ☺ the way you both answered these questions was very insightful.
I think I remember shinee saying that they keep professional and they’ve been together for along time lol
Thank you so much for the Information, now i know more that the KPOP Business is really hard.
So basically.. being a trainee is like having 100 siblings.. fighting over clothes, who ever gets what first, basically having dibs for everything
Except you still love your siblings underneath all that. Trainees probably don't have those same feelings.
@@Zeighla fax
i love the way gina speaks. so eloquent.
I came here for tea and I’m not disappointed ❤️💜
please check out part 1 as well! :) part 3 coming up next week!
rilaccoco 코코로 I can’t wait!! I love your videos💜
Actually this made me also kinda curious about members relationships in boybands or co ed groups too. Like I know they have to keep it professional too so do they tend to pair up two of the most famous or I guess shiped members for interactions? I feel like the more maintained friendships in groups are the ones that don’t have a lot of interaction on screen.
Please talk about how things are after debut. Are the companies still bias and how are the idols really treated
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Legend says if ur early Coco will reply to u :O
what legend :O
@@Rilaccoco :O hi coco! u a legend loving your content recently keep it up :)
you two have a really good conversation vibe! Enjoy listening to you both.
I love these informative videos honestly!!! ❤️❤️ thank you coco for the content!
aww thank you! wait for part 3 :)
Waiting for the next part and the song!!!