2 months ago there were still good players climbing to their natural ranks, so getting to mighty ruler was much more difficult than it is now. Paul isn't that much more difficult to climb with either. It's simply that Eddy is a problem by design cause he's hard to deal with regardless of whether he is busted or not.
It’s been forever since I’ve been consistently watching your channel (DBFZ). It’s so so nice to learn and play the same game as your favorite content creators. (I know this reads as AI I’m just trying to add a comment in appreciation)
It’s funny because so many people are complaining that they can’t learn the matchup without buying him but instantly run away once they see him. Like I get how frustrating that is 100% and it shouldn’t be that way but if you feel that strongly about it you probably SHOULD run the set to get as much experience against him as you can lol.
Honestly, he’s strong but not that strong. I would rank him between high A and low S if imma make a tier list. People just lose against him cause visually, his stance and animations are weird. It’s making them guess if he’s gonna go low or mid.
@@LotusAsakura No because every player play him different like how i play my asuka different from others despite us doing some of the same stuff and it depends on the rank the higher you go the more stuff you will see.
I'm glad that everyone is using the the longer hairstyle version because not only do I not like that they changed it, but it just looked weird from our perspective
It's also easy because of the fact you can't lab him in replays unless you buy him so learning the matchup is literally pay to win in a game that heavily relies on knowledge checks
You can watch replays but you cannot practice any punishes or anything during the replay unless you buy him. It does tell you your punishes however, just can't lab them
THE GOAT SINCE TEKKEN TAG he was the first individual I mastered the combos for on tekken tag tournament 😂😂 man I can stop being sad now eddy is on the roster after soooo long of a wait time
I would agree that some of the characters with lower play rates may have higher win rates as a result of matchup knowledge but would also argue that those same characters have been labbed out and are generally considered to be weaker than most of the cast and that those still playing from that pool may be character loyalists with skills transferred from previous installments which allows for them to secure wins consistently against the strongest, most played characters despite the weaknesses of their own.
the first night eddy came out, I got washed BAD by 2 dudes in particular against my yoshi but im new to tekken and never fought him in t7, im glad others are having trouble bc that night had me tight
I think it’ll be cool if you made a series where you get every character to a certain rank. You get to learn every character while your fans get to see you struggle then succeed.
the sad part for me is that eddy is a big big part of tekkken 7 for me and the reason im buying tekken 8 is because of him being my main and seeing the new fighting way do make want to see a few nefts but i will be a eddy main until i die and i hope to make a mark of my own with eddy in the tekken world
Hopped into a replay to see what these dudes were doing to me. The input history was just going crazy with 3 and down 3. Honest to god still have no idea what's going on with his stances.
Bruh I don't think its ur fault that players don't know how to be patient. Since you played Eddy, a lot of your opponents try to mash after strings instead of waiting. There was a couple of players who actually took their time. I really enjoyed watching the Leroy fight because both of yall were taking your time and adapting to each other‼️. PEAK FIGHTING BROTHER🗣️
Unless you’re a person and is completely new to Tekken. I get Eddy is a little different in this game but at the end of the day it’s Eddy 😂 and I’ve been dealing with and playing Eddy since Tekken 3. Not saying he still isn’t a headache to deal with it but it’s less for me since I know how Eddy works and I understand his play style.
I know its a bit rude but seeing you get a bit tilted was refreshing that even someone as good and chill as you can have this stuff get to you. not something ive seen from you before since tekken 8 is the main reason i found your channel and i dont catch every video.
I had got the 100 dollar Tekken 8 with the year of unlockable characters included. I got him the day before his official release, and I found that yes, he's very easy to use. And no, he's not broken by any means. I've been farming Eddy players for wins due to how punishable his moveset is. Sure, a good player with solid fundamentals in general using him could give me a challenge. But the ones that spam? Needless to say, they don't rematch me. 😂
He's too fluid into his stances, too fast, and far too versatile. Usually you know when your turn is over, but fighting Eddy is a fundamentally different game.
When you lost against Leroy you lost 520 points, when you won the set back you gained 500 points...this is probably why people "one and done" so often.
I don't think he is that broken, but I struggle a lot with him simply because I cannot practice playing against him whatsoever because Namco forces buying the character on you to lab against him. Kinda messed up in my opinion since I have no interest in ever playing him and therefore shouldn't be forced to buy him.
I would like to see those two videos that got deleted if you could redo them. But I totally understand you not wanting to force the feelings you had during the first recording. Up to you, but I would like to see it
eddy is a "scrub killer". so is super oppressive up to a certain level of gameplay. pros and very advance players probably won't struggle that much,but everyone under will straggle against cheap easy mix ups with someone that at least semi competent with the scrub killer.
@@PervySage723 Devil Jin is very much up there with characters that need to do back into the thinking board because a launching hell sweep and a full range heat smash got the greenlit and i know that shit was not thought out.
Half of Eddie is just going into his 50/50 but I think if you just backdash once after he goes into negativa the low sweep only chips you. And the other option you can block?
I dont think he is broken at all, a lot of his stuff you can counterplay with knowledge like out of handstand when you throw that plus frame overhand punch you can actually jab him out before he hits the punch
I was excited to play Eddy and I went on a 10 win streak. I did not deserve it and even if I start learning the combos I can sleep while doing them. It just feels wrong to play him. That's why I love playing Raven and I want to love playing Leroy but that is basically self torture at this point
Man all Eddy players use the same 3 moves... I come across Eddy so much. He is fairly easy to parry and punish. Most people just mash 3 and 4 and hope for the best.
@ONIGIRIKINGU that's fair but you have to agree that I am right to an extent. His negative frames make him easy to punish and his lows are easy to read for a parry punish.
@@jaredlyons3940 oh yea hes so easy to punish but people refuse to block or learn to punish his unsafe moves. Hes better than his tk 7 version but not broken
Having a 30 win streak and only being able to move from Mighty Ruler to Battle Ruler says a lot about the ranked system 😭 But my real question is why Lotus hates my main so much 😂 like what did Nina do 😭
I feel with Eddy the match up knowledge is not their yet. Once people learn how to fight him and read his strings he will level out to about B/A tier .
I wouldn't say Eddy is OP, he's just tricky to go against if whoever is using him knows what they're doing, especially if they're patient. A patient Eddy is nightmare fuel. 😅
even on intermediate or higher ranks, most eddy players still spam the same strings and 1 button combo starters over and over again and get away with it. sucks having to throw matches online and lose points just to practice defending this character's attacks if you're not willing to dish out the extra bucks.
He is easy to pick up I'm not going to say he broken but he got some good Mix-Ups from his stance is where you can go in and out of negativa and it's kind of like a built-in side step i I got a little video on my UA-cam showing how it works
I wanna see you do some Zafina matches tbh. I wanna see how you customize her and play her. I like her concept but I haven't tried playing her since T6. XD
Df 3 is -18 on block it used to be -23 in older games this is why the best eddy players are cracked because you can’t afford to Fuck up your punishment 💯
I’m not really doing anything special with him. Most other people playing him just haven’t actually tried to learn anything other than mashing 33333333 lol.
@@Seigo20 Almost none of the 15 frame launchers are punished for full combo you wanted to say? Most of standing 15 launchers -13 or -14, or safe but dont launch crouching.
Notice you’re using heat smash immediately as eddy Leverage his qcf3 and 3+4 in heat, moves are absolutely fcking bonkers. Qcf3 has ridiculous range, leave you plus on block, and does insane damage on hit. It’s a neutral monster. 3+4 is hella good, but doesn’t have nearly as much range. Use that shit at the wall for pressure as it leaves u hella plus. Eddy’s mixup is super counter able, and honestly feels a bit underwhelming. His negative basically dies to backdash. However his heat moves kinda redeem him.
It’s funny af. People defend Eddie but the devs would probably admit that he’s MEANT TO BE the worst scrub of all time… Do you really think that in the meetings they were saying “we want to design a totally legit character who is strong but fair” and they’re confused af when people dislike him?
The fact it took 2 months to get my Paul to Mighty Ruler, while it took me 2 days with Eddy says a lot
Could mean u learned
@@kelldaking5043 "Learning" and "Eddy" being in the same sentence is crazy
Naw you just didn’t Demo Man enough, you being too nice in this game 😂
2 months ago there were still good players climbing to their natural ranks, so getting to mighty ruler was much more difficult than it is now. Paul isn't that much more difficult to climb with either. It's simply that Eddy is a problem by design cause he's hard to deal with regardless of whether he is busted or not.
Not surprised. Paul hasn't changed in 20 years, everyone knows how to fight him.
I’ll take a number 333 combo
That'll be $3.33
@@Pwnr145 I got 333 pennies
@@famusp1991Would you like 3 sauces with that? Or maybe you would like to donate 33 cents to dell children's hospital and help save 3 lives 😂😂😂
I absolutely will, because if they use that on me, it's gonna be 3-0 victories all day for me. Hey! 👆 Another 3! 😂
As a Leroy main i highly enjoyed your loss 😂. And i learned some new Leroy combos
The Leroy matches were fun to watch cus I never see that character. The rage after was funny too😂
Kinda cathartic for me after me and my Leroy got the sh*t kicked outta us in low ranks lol
It’s been forever since I’ve been consistently watching your channel (DBFZ). It’s so so nice to learn and play the same game as your favorite content creators. (I know this reads as AI I’m just trying to add a comment in appreciation)
The best way to learn the matchup is to play against him and fix your mistakes, it’s sad a lot of tekken players don’t have that mentality
It’s funny because so many people are complaining that they can’t learn the matchup without buying him but instantly run away once they see him. Like I get how frustrating that is 100% and it shouldn’t be that way but if you feel that strongly about it you probably SHOULD run the set to get as much experience against him as you can lol.
Honestly, he’s strong but not that strong. I would rank him between high A and low S if imma make a tier list. People just lose against him cause visually, his stance and animations are weird. It’s making them guess if he’s gonna go low or mid.
@@LotusAsakura No because every player play him different like how i play my asuka different from others despite us doing some of the same stuff and it depends on the rank the higher you go the more stuff you will see.
@@KleinMoretti-pm4poyou can't press any buttons against him. Thats my problem with him.
I haven't checked myself but is it true you actually can not utilize him in replay mode if you dont have him unlocked?
I just imagine there's a spot in the ranks where it's all the Eddie players just matching up against themselves
The beginning lmao
I'm glad that everyone is using the the longer hairstyle version because not only do I not like that they changed it, but it just looked weird from our perspective
I’m drunk watching this, but I love you Lotus you’re the goat you always come through with a great video
It's also easy because of the fact you can't lab him in replays unless you buy him so learning the matchup is literally pay to win in a game that heavily relies on knowledge checks
You can watch replays but you cannot practice any punishes or anything during the replay unless you buy him. It does tell you your punishes however, just can't lab them
@@dickardcuriczak8631 that sucks.
Tbh any ranked video would do, it’s just nice to get some classic ranked UA-cam games
THE GOAT SINCE TEKKEN TAG he was the first individual I mastered the combos for on tekken tag tournament 😂😂 man I can stop being sad now eddy is on the roster after soooo long of a wait time
I just realized based on how Eddie fights you can customize him into the black guy from Tenjo Tenge
Thank you for giving me my next customization
I’ve never liked eddy but he’s dope on T8. I’ve been using him and it’s better to learn him. Makes it easier to know how to play against him.
The Feng association don't appreciate the strays 🤣🤣
I would agree that some of the characters with lower play rates may have higher win rates as a result of matchup knowledge but would also argue that those same characters have been labbed out and are generally considered to be weaker than most of the cast and that those still playing from that pool may be character loyalists with skills transferred from previous installments which allows for them to secure wins consistently against the strongest, most played characters despite the weaknesses of their own.
Eddy players eat more crayons than Kid Buu
No, that's what Eddy players trigger you to eat after beating your ass so many times, scrub
As a budding Leroy main, I feel inspired 😂
I got too much pride to mash 3 to win. I need to learn a few combos before I run with him. Never been a cheap player. That’s just me tho
Respect
🌽
the first night eddy came out, I got washed BAD by 2 dudes in particular against my yoshi but im new to tekken and never fought him in t7, im glad others are having trouble bc that night had me tight
I think it’ll be cool if you made a series where you get every character to a certain rank. You get to learn every character while your fans get to see you struggle then succeed.
I like seeing you play a lot of different characters
I'd love to see you play a few different characters. It's be cool to see your journey learning and ranking a new character.
That leroy man😂bro was cooking
Hes blocking was ass yes but bro
lars alexanderson awaits your mastery.
kinda nice to finally see Eddy shine
He never stays relevant in any more modern tekken
the sad part for me is that eddy is a big big part of tekkken 7 for me and the reason im buying tekken 8 is because of him being my main and seeing the new fighting way do make want to see a few nefts but i will be a eddy main until i die and i hope to make a mark of my own with eddy in the tekken world
Hopped into a replay to see what these dudes were doing to me. The input history was just going crazy with 3 and down 3. Honest to god still have no idea what's going on with his stances.
Bruh I don't think its ur fault that players don't know how to be patient. Since you played Eddy, a lot of your opponents try to mash after strings instead of waiting. There was a couple of players who actually took their time. I really enjoyed watching the Leroy fight because both of yall were taking your time and adapting to each other‼️. PEAK FIGHTING BROTHER🗣️
That leroy spamming rage pissed me off 😂😂😂
“God this character’s corny.”
Says the guy playing Eddy 🤣
Unless you’re a person and is completely new to Tekken. I get Eddy is a little different in this game but at the end of the day it’s Eddy 😂 and I’ve been dealing with and playing Eddy since Tekken 3. Not saying he still isn’t a headache to deal with it but it’s less for me since I know how Eddy works and I understand his play style.
I know its a bit rude but seeing you get a bit tilted was refreshing that even someone as good and chill as you can have this stuff get to you. not something ive seen from you before since tekken 8 is the main reason i found your channel and i dont catch every video.
I swear anyone that runs him is intellectually lost
Agreed
No, you're intellectually lost
@@OdelyxRaDisagreed
I had got the 100 dollar Tekken 8 with the year of unlockable characters included. I got him the day before his official release, and I found that yes, he's very easy to use. And no, he's not broken by any means.
I've been farming Eddy players for wins due to how punishable his moveset is. Sure, a good player with solid fundamentals in general using him could give me a challenge. But the ones that spam? Needless to say, they don't rematch me. 😂
Mileage outta the character indeed 👊🏾
He's too fluid into his stances, too fast, and far too versatile. Usually you know when your turn is over, but fighting Eddy is a fundamentally different game.
When you lost against Leroy you lost 520 points, when you won the set back you gained 500 points...this is probably why people "one and done" so often.
Yeah eddy’s been giving me trouble in ranked. every match is a close match with a eddy man. Mostly due to me not understanding the character.
his 333 combo you can frame trap it into his low throw his 4,d,3 also will do it and his 2,d,3
Leroy a sleeper goat gotta respect him
Yh play Both love ur Eddie and Hwarang
I don't think he is that broken, but I struggle a lot with him simply because I cannot practice playing against him whatsoever because Namco forces buying the character on you to lab against him. Kinda messed up in my opinion since I have no interest in ever playing him and therefore shouldn't be forced to buy him.
Bro, Fujin already 😂
Eddy = Big Carried
Would love to see some Hwourang (probably butchered the spelling lol) ranked gameplay!
Change the 'u' into an 'a' and you're golden. Better than I would've done.
would love to see how far you get with eddy
I would like to see those two videos that got deleted if you could redo them. But I totally understand you not wanting to force the feelings you had during the first recording. Up to you, but I would like to see it
i knew something was up when i saw that sample combo that just had uf3 then 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,... all the way to the end
I don’t play tekken, don’t care about tekken, but for whatever reason I’ve been watching this dude semi religiously. Not complaining just confused.
Run up the like button guys I wanna see more Eddy!!!!
Literally just gotta move right on his strings even his heat smash will whiff
eddy is a "scrub killer".
so is super oppressive up to a certain level of gameplay.
pros and very advance players probably won't struggle that much,but everyone under will straggle against cheap easy mix ups with someone that at least semi competent with the scrub killer.
Def play more eddie!
Feng is a Baki character in tekken.
no shit tajin
Hwoarang is the easiest character. Eddie is second. I've yet to see you play well without either one because your characters carry you.
4:30 that actually went Hella Far!!! I'm MORE THAN SURE he didn't touch you WHATSOEVER!!!
Wait how the fuck did that reach
As a fellow feng player that guy was hilarious 😭😭😭😭bro hating while playing eddy
Eddy took advice from Katerina’s 3333.
Eddy is absolutely op. Hes a pos to fight and has a constant 50 50
Who you main
@@YungBl3ss94 kazuya and devil jin
@@PervySage723 Devil Jin is very much up there with characters that need to do back into the thinking board because a launching hell sweep and a full range heat smash got the greenlit and i know that shit was not thought out.
@@じゅんヒロイン父 i def do agree with that. His heat smash is the best in the game for sure
@@PervySage723 Eh its between King, Jun or Devil jin.
Did you look into recovering the files? It might still be possible.
Lotus make sure you use the mandinga charges as well
Is it just me or did he make his eddy look like heavenly controller?
Fuck that rap i s t
Half of Eddie is just going into his 50/50 but I think if you just backdash once after he goes into negativa the low sweep only chips you. And the other option you can block?
Ed, Edd,and Eddy
Street fighter has Ed, Tekken has Eddy, now someone needs an Edd in their fighting game 😂
😂
I dont think he is broken at all, a lot of his stuff you can counterplay with knowledge like out of handstand when you throw that plus frame overhand punch you can actually jab him out before he hits the punch
you can cntrl + z on you folder on desktop if you accidentaly delete a file
I was excited to play Eddy and I went on a 10 win streak. I did not deserve it and even if I start learning the combos I can sleep while doing them. It just feels wrong to play him. That's why I love playing Raven and I want to love playing Leroy but that is basically self torture at this point
Man all Eddy players use the same 3 moves... I come across Eddy so much. He is fairly easy to parry and punish. Most people just mash 3 and 4 and hope for the best.
Not me
@ONIGIRIKINGU that's fair but you have to agree that I am right to an extent. His negative frames make him easy to punish and his lows are easy to read for a parry punish.
@@jaredlyons3940 oh yea hes so easy to punish but people refuse to block or learn to punish his unsafe moves. Hes better than his tk 7 version but not broken
Having a 30 win streak and only being able to move from Mighty Ruler to Battle Ruler says a lot about the ranked system 😭
But my real question is why Lotus hates my main so much 😂 like what did Nina do 😭
Eddy is crazy bc highs look like lows
seems like its another character that you need to build up 3 flowcharts with and you can be tekken emperor
I feel with Eddy the match up knowledge is not their yet. Once people learn how to fight him and read his strings he will level out to about B/A tier .
I wouldn't say Eddy is OP, he's just tricky to go against if whoever is using him knows what they're doing, especially if they're patient. A patient Eddy is nightmare fuel. 😅
even on intermediate or higher ranks, most eddy players still spam the same strings and 1 button combo starters over and over again and get away with it. sucks having to throw matches online and lose points just to practice defending this character's attacks if you're not willing to dish out the extra bucks.
sure you can win just doing few stuff but if you really want to learn and squeeze as much as possible in the combos its not just 333 spam
He is easy to pick up I'm not going to say he broken but he got some good Mix-Ups from his stance is where you can go in and out of negativa and it's kind of like a built-in side step i I got a little video on my UA-cam showing how it works
W vid
Saying feng not cool is like saying ice cream isn’t good just something that can’t be😂
I wanna see you do some Zafina matches tbh. I wanna see how you customize her and play her. I like her concept but I haven't tried playing her since T6. XD
Lost 3-0 to a random spamming, eddy
Hold dat
Df 3 is -18 on block it used to be -23 in older games this is why the best eddy players are cracked because you can’t afford to Fuck up your punishment 💯
i wanna see sum more hwaorang ranked vids
🔥🔥🔥
What’s the counter play for 333?
Jab, side step, heat smash, blocking and punish as its unsafe on block
You're fluid with Eddy. The others are just spammers lol
I’m not really doing anything special with him. Most other people playing him just haven’t actually tried to learn anything other than mashing 33333333 lol.
@@LotusAsakura Fr lol.
I honesty think Eddy is honesty fair at purple rank and above hes very risky and linear just my opinion though
yessss mooorreee
I really like Eddy but I kinda wish we got Christy instead
More eddy vids please.
Any 15 frame launcher can be launched on block. Steve is the only exception, as he has no 15 frame launcher. 😢
Nah that’s not entirely true. There are characters with safe 15 frame launchers. Like Hwoarang’s DF2 for example.
@LotusAsakura yeah, you right. I should have said almost every launcher can be launch punished. That woulda been more accurate to say.
@@Seigo20 Almost none of the 15 frame launchers are punished for full combo you wanted to say? Most of standing 15 launchers -13 or -14, or safe but dont launch crouching.
Notice you’re using heat smash immediately as eddy
Leverage his qcf3 and 3+4 in heat, moves are absolutely fcking bonkers.
Qcf3 has ridiculous range, leave you plus on block, and does insane damage on hit. It’s a neutral monster.
3+4 is hella good, but doesn’t have nearly as much range. Use that shit at the wall for pressure as it leaves u hella plus.
Eddy’s mixup is super counter able, and honestly feels a bit underwhelming. His negative basically dies to backdash. However his heat moves kinda redeem him.
It’s funny af. People defend Eddie but the devs would probably admit that he’s MEANT TO BE the worst scrub of all time…
Do you really think that in the meetings they were saying “we want to design a totally legit character who is strong but fair” and they’re confused af when people dislike him?
Easy right now because it is a new character people don't know the match up
I absolutely hate playing against this character.
Nah I wanna see more ranked videos
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta in Tekken?
if you made it to fujin ,.. then you have completed the tutorial ..
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The ironic part is Eddy is mid tier at best. Only reason hes stomping is because you cant lab him.