Wax vs Oil | What is the best leather treatment for holsters and sheaths?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- I had so many question, comments, and concerns from my last wax dipping video, I had to make a follow up. Many of you had strong opinions about what your favorite leather treatment was. I personally like to stick to 100% pure animal derived oils and waxes. In this video, I try a beeswax-tallow mixture. Below you can see some of the links with informations about temperature effects on veg tan leather:
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This video has an ASMR quality. I love the background noise.
Yeah that’s the fridge and the heater in my garage. Glad you like it because it’s the only space I have :)
Very cool! Wax and oil finishes are a strange obsession of mine🤣. I’ve used wax, both pure and mixed with oils, as a wood finish to good effect. I’ll have to try on some of my leather work.
Well done. I think you are onto something with that mixture. Your leatherwork is top notch as well.
I would say, however, if you added a couple carrots and some onions, it could have also been dinner! 😄
Thanks! It sure smelled good
You did a great job at that, the reason why you’re getting so much resistance is that it took time to do it that means somebody actually has to stop playing a video game or watching TV or doing something that is absolutely non-productive and doing this particular task. Everybody is so accustomed to just grabbing a bottle of something and wiping it on there and hoping for the best. This is nothing more than just pure laziness.
I tried the wax/tallow finish on a wet formed fixed blade sheath. The result was outstanding! Hard as plastic and a beautiful color. Thanks.
I’m glad it turned out well! Thanks for the comment!
as mentioned below the 70% 30% mix of beeswax and boiled linseed oil is also used in blacksmithing for dipping the finished product
Great job, looks awesome! I’m not sure, but I would just make sure that the beef tallow doesn’t go rancid as I know that is a risk with some oils. However, I don’t know if beef tallow does or not. But either way you just educated yourself without college tuition!
Well done! Looks great!
Thank you for the Great video, I'm a science and Outdoor writer in Oregon. Once I soaked my horse's Headstall in Neatsfoot oil to soften, and right in the middle of archery Elk season, the new Headstall tore!! Did I soak it too long, or is there a better oil for softening leather?! Thank You so much 😊
The unused portion wax and beef tallow how long will it keep ? Will it go rancid ?
I put oil on first and seal with wax! It works!
The way I get SnoSeal, a solid beeswax based boot waterproofing, to soak into leather boots is to park my truck in the sun (only works in the summer), roll the windows up, put some newspapers on the seat, and then put the waxed boots on the newspaper and let it sit for a couple of hours. It gets hot enough that the wax melts and soaks into the leather nicely but you don't have to worry about getting the boots too hot.
That works!
11:50 Ouch!
Nice Video !!!
Love the video,I am a fan of leather goods do you have a product line
Not really, but I do make sheaths on request. wyomingwright@gmail
Try using cooked linseed oil instead of beef fat. The oil will polymerize under the influence of oxygen, in combination with beeswax it gives a really durable finish. You can try it with a ratio of 70/30 (wax / oil), you will be satisfied. The best is natural, cooked linseed oil, it is simply linseed oil that is exposed to high temperatures, without the addition of harmful chemicals. You can also just use linseed oil, but it will harden very slowly.
I will definitely give it a try. Thanks for commenting!
Is “cooked” linseed oil the same as “boiled”?
@@wyomingwright Sold as "polymerized".
@@wyomingwright Technically speaking yes, it's exactly the same. I wrote this because most of the "boiled linseed oil" available in stores is actually ordinary oil with additives of heavy metal salts (for example, lead salts) that accelerate polymerization. This is called siccative, an additive to e.g. oil paints. I prefer my products to be as natural as possible, so I found an oil that was only heat treated.
@@michawojtaszek2052 An excellent point! In using a compound of wax and linseed, I think it would be crucial to ensure that the linseed oil was pure and unadulterated. That is the problem with Neats Foot oil "compounds" which contain petroleum distallates.
Master Sir, Go the Tallow! I could see it in the colour of the leather. I apprecate the thaught and research you put into your process. Likewise giving temperature in both units, whilst i can relate inches ect o Fahrenheit i must convert. On one traditional sailing ship we used wax and tallow (often with a bit of Stockholm tar) to good efect. The only drawback for me is wax is expensive and difficult to get, but in a pinch i can get beef dripping at the supermarket for a few $. But the wax dose give it a shine! Great video i learnt a lot! Only suggest ion is give a hair dryer a go as some might not have a fancy dryer. Fair Winds Scotty
Thanks! I am lucky. I have bees, and they share their wax with me. I have cows too, but they are more reluctant to share
@@wyomingwright 🤣🤣 guess im lucky ive got a bit of fat too!
Been using a mixture of Sellari’s Stitching Wax and neatsfoot oil (50/50) heated for over 40 years for knife sheaths with good results. Not shiny, but holds up well. Learned from late Bob Loveless.
Learning from your experience, is something I can build on. As for the revolver case dip, it was something, that we would be likely to experience so that too waswell illustrated.
I like the wax treatment. Is there any reason that you prefer beeswax to paraffin?
Paraffin is a little more brittle, it’s not as strong so it doesn’t reinforce the leather fibers as well as bees wax. I think it off gasses faster so it won’t last as long.
To improve your formula use different types of waxes with different characteristics. The secret is the ratios
Good video. I suggest that, out of an abundance of caution, when you are handling a gun that you quickly show that it is unloaded before handling it and putting it into your beautiful sheaths.
Do you take custom work?
Not currently. If something changes, I’ll let you know.
Our crockpot is oblong shaped-would allow longer sheaths for your dipping method
Yeah the crockpot was just slightly too small for my holster…and I needed a bit more wax in there. It was a mess 😬
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Your dip method is better for coating the interior but ive had great results using wax as a rub. Warm the leather with a blowdrier and rub on a mixture like you used. The leather will draw it right in with only a small amount of heat. Works great for waterproofing boots and sealing up gear like holsters
Done that.
But how do you manage with the sticky texture afterwards????
I unexpectedly inherited my dads dan Wesson 715 in 2019. Its been sitting in my safe but i wanna make a good holster so i can carry that man gun . Life is too short to not open carry wheel guns
what about leather conditioner as softner and leather protection?
Ive been kinda retarded about making my holsters too tight. I need to start making them with a bigger outline
Good job!
Save some of that tallow for fries!
I think it looks like it would hold up to the elements well and be easy to clean and your pistol snaps into it and stays put nice job thanks for sharing
Thanks, Lance. Did you see in my most recent video that you won the giveaway. I’ve got a buck 110 sheath with your name on it. Can you email me your shipping address at wyomingwright@gmail.com
Have you been able to test it by laying it on a car seat in the heat of the summer to see if it weeps out on your car leather?
I have not with the holster but I’ve had the knife sheaths in the hot car. I haven’t had any problems with wax weeping onto other materials
Very Interesting, I’ve not used wax as a treatment, always pure Neatsfoot oil with good results.
Have you thought about using Turpentine and beeswax? Turpentine is from a tree and not a petroleum.
I have never considered that, but it would be interesting to try
I have used beeswax linseed oil and turpentine mix on leather for many projects. The only down side is you get a strong turpentine odor from it. This is not good when your belt gives of a strong turpentine odor.
Hey, all worked out good in the end. Holster looks great and you demoed a great learning experience for all to see. Thumbs up. Good video.
I like the results
I made a leather canteen and used beeswax on the outside and pine resin on the inside and I really like how that looks on the outside
I’m going to do this on future projects
Thanks for the Video
Those are the best crockpots. Love that classic look
The best leather treatment is one that you do consistently
Excellent..very informative. Thank you.
With a compound of beeswax and beef tallow, my guess is that the odor would attract bears to your camp at night. ... My holstered revolver always goes into my tent with me at night. That's not an optimal place to meet a big, hungry bruin. ... I guess I could hang the holster up in a tree, well away from my tent, and just take the wheelgun into the tent at night. ... Decisions, decisions. ... Great videos. I like the way you think outside of the box. New subscriber.
It’s actually not very odorous at all. I live in grizzly country and I wouldn’t hesitate to take it with me anywhere. They’d smell me before they’d smell my holster 😊
Great work, great vids. Have you looked into how long things take to go rancid? Any chance you can do experiments with mineral oil?
I have not ever experienced any of my leather treatments going rancid. The tallow is rendered and purified and then mixed with wax and heated to 170 F before using on leather. My mixtures are usually 60-80% bees wax. With the tallow filtered, heated, and dispersed in that much bees wax, I don't expect it will go rancid anytime soon if at all
Thank you can you please tell me what holster so I can order the exact holster I have that model 60 and I just bought it and want a perfect fit holster for it thank you again
Thanks for the comment. This is a holster I built. Unfortunately, I am not selling at this point. I may in the future, but I’m not quite ready yet….It’s hard to find holsters and sheaths that fit your needs isn’t it? That’s why I started leather working.
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Well, I’m glad you made it
Some leather treatments include lanolin--any thoughts on that?
Lanolin is a really cool oil. It seems very durable and is solid-ish at room temperature, so you might have to warm it or warm the leather to get good penetration. But I think it could be a good treatment. I guess one disadvantage might be finding 100% lanolin in good quantity at an affordable price…but I’ve never tried 🤷♂️. I like the idea
I had made a combo sheath for my Buck 110 and my Leatherman. I did as you did in the previous video. I used the wax I've collected from my wife's Candles and such. Seem to work very well for me. Everything fit's tighter but I imagine that will ease over time. No problem here. Will do it again. Thanks for the Video.
Thanks, I’ve been surprised how well it’s kept the fit. Seems to keep shape longer than without wax.
@@wyomingwright I would have never thought of it w/o your video. I appreciate it.
would you treat like this on a 80s knife sheath?
Maybe. As long as the wax/tallow mixture isn’t too hot, I don’t think it would hurt anything. Keep in mind it will make the leather a lot stiffer and darker.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I'm trying to get up enough courage to treat a very old Safariland shoulder holster. In the past, I've been accused of being a little bit strange. So it's probably not a surprise that I found the time lapse clip of the beeswax melting fascinating.
I’ve been accused of the same :)
What’s “strange”.?.?We’re all strange..Thank god.
Can lard be used to soften or condition leather?
I don’t see why not. Tallow is beef fat. Lard is pork fat. It is possible for fats and oils to go rancid, but that wouldn’t affect the condition of the leather at all, although it might affect the smell. Mixing with beeswax will help protect it from going rancid. I do think lard is softer than tallow at room temperature so that might change the stiffness of the leather…just stuff to think about.
@@wyomingwright thanks