How Good is the BEST Traveler? (Pyro Traveler Prerelease Kit & Teammate Analysis)

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  • @JelloImpact
    @JelloImpact  15 годин тому +51

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    • @TheRedstoneWeb
      @TheRedstoneWeb 15 годин тому +1

      What is the skill duration for pyro traveler? I don't think you mentioned this in the video, only the cooldown

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  15 годин тому +3

      @@TheRedstoneWeb sorry, it's 12 seconds like the pyro archon

    • @TheRedstoneWeb
      @TheRedstoneWeb 15 годин тому +1

      7:23 not sure if pyro traveler can use cinder city to buff navia here since the artifact holder needs to trigger the reaction in order to get the buff; and crystallize is a one way reaction (pyro then geo, not the other way around)

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  14 годин тому +1

      @@TheRedstoneWebyeah that makes sense
      I was thinking mauviiiq works on the team so should he but xilonen is the one on cinder there

    • @gredem4799
      @gredem4799 14 годин тому

      plz give an archon and its lali😶‍🌫

  • @scarlett453
    @scarlett453 14 годин тому +352

    You've called them dreams, you've called them rumours, but now it's predicting with a high degree of accuracy. Beautiful 😂

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  14 годин тому +55

      😅

    • @Michplay
      @Michplay 12 годин тому +8

      I don’t like TikTok for most of the time, but when it comes to leaks, it’s the best place. Mavuika’s motorcycle was already circulating there for weeks before the beta just like Chasca pistol which i thought was a meme skin. After that they showed us in the version preview and i was laughing so hard, i just couldn’t believed it. I thought wtf is this… is this even genshin

    • @izzme5204
      @izzme5204 11 годин тому

      ​​@@Michplay it all comes from "read it" (replace 'a' with 'd' and remove the space). That's the best app for leaks

    • @izzme5204
      @izzme5204 11 годин тому

      ​@@Michplaymost leaks comes from r/genshinimpactleaks. Tiktok vids probably get their videos from there. If you want to stay informed on leaks, you could use that

  • @JelloImpact
    @JelloImpact  15 годин тому +167

    - traveler skill lasts 12s max
    - some are saying I’m highly undervaluing cinder city for double hydro teams, chev teams, and they’re a lot better than I’m saying here
    - also gives a 6% damage bonus, 12% bonus to natlan character
    - someone also mentioned sac sword, so that could be nice for clorinde and maybe some others.
    - cinder won't work with navia

    • @yannischupin7787
      @yannischupin7787 14 годин тому +21

      the cooldown of the pyro travaler was reduced to 18 secs in V3 this monday.

    • @KHFreack
      @KHFreack 14 годин тому +2

      been told that the dmg bonus was upped to 9%(18%) in the cn text but unsure if thats accurate or if the en version is the right one.

    • @Sable813
      @Sable813 14 годин тому +16

      6 second dmg bonus is crazy, don't go too wild mihoyo.
      *sigh* the pyro MC and Mavuika really aren't gonna powercreep xiangling?

    • @ArgosThePeacock
      @ArgosThePeacock 14 годин тому +1

      Why ESPECIFICALLY Navia..??
      (Sorry I haven't seen the whole video)

    • @entropy8634
      @entropy8634 14 годин тому +19

      @@ArgosThePeacockgeo and anemo generally, Navia specifically. Bc there’s no geo or anemo aura for traveller to react with

  • @mon-jp8jt
    @mon-jp8jt 15 годин тому +103

    they better be at the very least decent since we waited this damn long 😂

  • @Benji_S_E
    @Benji_S_E 15 годин тому +153

    Since it's a skill you can use sac sword so it might be better than xiangling

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  15 годин тому +59

      That’s a good thought

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 13 годин тому +13

      ​@@JelloImpactdefinitely, it would save your issues with mualani and 100% would be more comfy and more dmg

    • @Renteka-Bond
      @Renteka-Bond 10 годин тому +5

      That's actually how I've been running her on Dendro Traveler, so it'll be absolutely goated here for her. With the 18s CD, basically becomes the same sitch as Dehya on Sac as well but without circle impact.
      Anything to have a sub for Xiangling.

  • @hazelmaple
    @hazelmaple 13 годин тому +35

    Can’t believe even in natlan Bennett is going to stay the best pyro character in the game

    • @halilibrahim7694
      @halilibrahim7694 5 годин тому +3

      Me too after saw pyro archon leaks get shock even pyro archon need Bennet can you believe this how much ridiculous

    • @EggiRoll
      @EggiRoll 4 години тому +1

      It’s crazy how they’re so scared to power creep Bennet or even Xiangling

    • @DeathTheManiac
      @DeathTheManiac 3 години тому +2

      @@halilibrahim7694 What Pyro Archon leak? Bennet has already been in the game since 1.0. Sure, they've been hyping this Mavuika chick or something for a few patches now but everyone knows she's just warming Bennet's throne

  • @Supre3m3Kai
    @Supre3m3Kai 15 годин тому +154

    They could have at least given them a traversal tool. They literally gave this sucka a pet Saurian.

    • @J.Jolteon
      @J.Jolteon 14 годин тому +9

      A pikachu and a bike

    • @coffeeking9565
      @coffeeking9565 14 годин тому +29

      Mavuika: motorcycle
      Traveler: unicycle 🤡

    • @tyresewilliams7009
      @tyresewilliams7009 14 годин тому +29

      @@coffeeking9565if he had a unicycle I would love it personally lol

    • @lnsflare1
      @lnsflare1 14 годин тому +14

      I mean, lorewise they have all of the traversal tools while in Natlan, since Traveler can indwel any adult Saurian's body, which also lets you talk to Saurians and take them out of a fight without having to hurt them.

    • @Tomy_Lightning
      @Tomy_Lightning 14 годин тому +1

      ​@@J.Jolteonmore like sandshrew

  • @eldreyte
    @eldreyte 13 годин тому +27

    One thing to keep in mind about burning is that while the enemies burn, applying additional pyro will not retrigger any reactions, so there will be issues with activating hero set after the first rotation in teams with permanent burning uptime. Once enemies stop burning it leaves behind pyro aura, which prevents applying clean dendro aura for the traveler to be the burn trigger. Adding a character of a third element can fix this tho, so kinich-furina-mc trio should be functional

  • @Madalyonunun_iki_yüzü
    @Madalyonunun_iki_yüzü 13 годин тому +27

    I want a version of Bennet where we don't depend on the circle

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 13 годин тому +12

      So does every single soul on the community

  • @watenalrawaliy3389
    @watenalrawaliy3389 14 годин тому +16

    Finally! I have been waiting for someone to talk about pyro travler for ages!

  • @alfredxsiv
    @alfredxsiv 9 годин тому +5

    There are a few things missing in the dreams.
    - Skill has 2 versions Tap & Hold. Tap will create a ring around the active char that will deal damage every 1s if near an enemy (has standard ICD), hold will summon an orb that follows the active char that will deal coordinated attacks once every 3s (has standard ICD).
    - Burst has the highest nuke motion value traveler has (the 2nd closest is dendro MC burst if you hit it with pyro) this is also not mentioning it can vape/melt, and it also gives total 28 nightsoul points.
    For those curious, yes it has higher motion value than hutao's burst even with low hp, but this is not taking into account that hutao gets a massive atk buff during her skill.
    personal analysis:
    Support - Basically the next best thing you have for off-field pyro application in a solo pyro situation (cause xiangling in solo pyro is very cringe to use). The tap version "can" also be better at applying pyro than dehya, this comes at the cost of you need to be near enemy. (Cinder City is also a given in this scenario)
    Burgeon/curry/oven - with tap version, they should be just as good as thoma C0/C1 if not better (thoma has 5s downtime in his burst at c0/c1 while also needing alot of energy to burst, C2 thoma makes it so it has 2s downtime, C4 makes it so the energy is much more manageable but still needs a lot in solo pyro). If pyro trav really has 12s max, it has 6s downtime, but given the advantage of not being burst reliant making stacking EM easier. Though you're also losing the defensive utility that thoma gives in this team, so you're kinda forced to bring a healer or other sustain (Charlotte, C6 Diona, Kuki-Zyoxntr iykyn, Layla, Dori, qiqi, prot amber nahida + prot amber lisa, barbara, etc.)
    On Field DPS - PMC's C6 gives 40crt dmg and pyro infusion that can't be overridden for the max 12s duration of skill. Yup plunge trav can actually be decent, the "less" pyro app of their skill hold version is actually a blessing in this scenario as you don't want it to steal too much hydro aura in (furina, xianyun, pmc, ororon/benny/yelan) team.

  • @reactiondavant-garde3391
    @reactiondavant-garde3391 14 годин тому +34

    Hear me out. C6 Pyro Traveler Burgeon team! He would be able to trigger burgeon with normals and skill, he generate energy by triggering reactions and he would be able to use Nahdia EM buff. Maybe you can even build him as a hybrid dps.

    • @I.disagree
      @I.disagree 12 годин тому +6

      Yeah I wonder why Jello didn't talk about burgeon being a possibility. Cinder city support is fine but that's not the only playstyle this kit can have

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 12 годин тому +10

      @@I.disagree Yeah, when I saw thet he generate energy by triggering burgeon it is immadietly made me think. Thoma big problem is energy and the fact thet you waste Nahida EM buff most of the time so why not use on-field PMC? He will have lower energy need then Thoma most probably and he will use Nahida's buff as well. I think this is genuinly can be a pretty good burgeon or hybrid team.

    • @Dummymosa
      @Dummymosa 10 годин тому +2

      Yea the fact that his pyro is on skill makes it so he doesn't need to build 2000% ER like Thoma
      So you can just use triple EM for maximum burgeon damage, with nahida and xingqiu I think it'll be a pretty strong low investment team

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 10 годин тому +1

      @@Dummymosa Yes, sounds like a good option. He can be on-fielded as well for extra pyro if the burgeon trigger is too slow for extra EM from Nahida. I think he have some potential to be pretty interesting unit.

  • @charroboo
    @charroboo 13 годин тому +8

    Bro! youre so good at guessing character kits! Holy cow!!

  • @4.0GPA
    @4.0GPA 14 годин тому +22

    You are the most likable genshin cc on the platform.

    • @ipsumlorem3076
      @ipsumlorem3076 13 годин тому +2

      agreed

    • @phatiesha5949
      @phatiesha5949 12 годин тому +2

      definitely.

    • @chilairearts4238
      @chilairearts4238 10 годин тому +4

      What about dish

    • @drawerkidviet9867
      @drawerkidviet9867 7 годин тому +5

      ​@@chilairearts4238after the whole McDonald thing, not really. To keep it short Dish was called out when she bought a McDonald meal because of the Genshin collab and at the time(don't know if it still going) McDonald is a supporter for the Palestine genocide, when she was called out she say the they no longer do it so it's fine. Overall complicated situation but alot of people don't like her anymore after that

    • @starbiiy
      @starbiiy 6 годин тому

      Personally I think Rednas is too!

  • @flamezforthegamez1056
    @flamezforthegamez1056 12 годин тому +4

    Id also like to point out that Pyro Traveler for overload will be incredible because it will be able to slot Ororon in, who can gain nightsoul points from electro attacks present in overload, and he can trigger his A1 when pyro traveler's attacks in their nightsoul state hits enemies. So Ororon can be on Cinder City and Pyro Traveler can be on Tenacity, a 4pc Gilded full Em build, OR as a main dps with Obsidian Codex.
    Im thinking a Chevreuse, Fischl, Ororon, and Pyro Traveler team should go pretty well. Can swap Fischl for Yae, Raiden, Beidou, or Lisa.

  • @cecilecrozatier7979
    @cecilecrozatier7979 Годину тому

    Thanks for the vid, I live the format about possible teammates. It is super helpful to follow your thought process and you get to have insights and questions from viewers as well for an even more relatable video!!

  • @J.Jolteon
    @J.Jolteon 15 годин тому +11

    Thanks for the video, been waiting for it since you announced it yesterday.
    I actually plan to skip Mavuika for now and hope the pyro traveler will be at least good.
    Would love to play the MC more in general.

  • @domgk-rx5ih
    @domgk-rx5ih 14 годин тому +63

    i can on field Lumine with that C6 i don’t care how viable it is or isn’t im doing it😭😭

    • @horstrolf9230
      @horstrolf9230 14 годин тому +8

      Do her with c2 xilonen, furina and a flexslot.
      You will have fun 😂

    • @domgk-rx5ih
      @domgk-rx5ih 14 годин тому +5

      @@horstrolf9230 maybe yelan or Xingque for more vapes and sub dps, Bennett for the ATK buff or Kazuha to group and shred res, there's a decent amount of options the more i think about it😂

    • @StanTheWoz
      @StanTheWoz 13 годин тому +3

      Based

    • @studiesinflux1304
      @studiesinflux1304 13 годин тому +3

      I’m doing Pyro main character (MC) DPS attempt as well since I have no limited 5 star pyro DPS and depleted my primos and welkin crystals on chasing Ororon C6. I’ve already used Yanfei for 36 starring a few Abysses, so I can’t imagine Pyro MC would be worse than Yanfei.
      As you mentioned, there are many options. MC is an attack scaling Pyro DPS that can use normal attacks (i.e. not crippled like Dehya’s punching) and can apply a bit of Pyro before their main damage window (so Viridescent swirl and Xilonen are easy compared to Hu Tao). Even Xianyun plunge is possible.
      The other option I was thinking would be to spam Overloaded. Pyro MC’s skill alone is Pyro every 3 seconds and if you are spamming normal attacks with MC’s relatively quick normal attack string, that’s an additional 2 Pyro applications every 5 seconds. Build MC full EM and slot them with off field electros. Thanks to version 5.2 Overloaded buff, it should be good for 40k team DPS so around that of a version 1.x National team. Higher if your Electro is a really well built Yae Miko or similar.

    • @infrnlmssh9719
      @infrnlmssh9719 12 годин тому +2

      You can on-fieldd Loomie without that C6 too. If you're brave enough.
      Much Love. The MC Gang.

  • @kevael6132
    @kevael6132 14 годин тому +29

    From my understanding of the cinder city set, it only activates if the character holding it triggers the reaction. And pyro cannot be the trigger in swirl or crystallize. Hence, I think that characters like Navia cannot receive the set buff by the PMC whatsoever
    edited for clarity

    • @ArgosThePeacock
      @ArgosThePeacock 14 годин тому +1

      Actually.. I believe Jean can apply a bit of Anemo in her ult so maybe Traveler can react with that anemo to trigger Cinder City buff for Anemo
      As for Geo.. maybe Pyro Traveler's [E] acts milisseconds before infusions like Chiori's and Navia's so it can cristallize (yet Kachina should be worthier in this case)

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 13 годин тому +9

      ⁠​⁠@@ArgosThePeacockJean only applies Anemo to the on field character, and it only works as the trigger as usual. This is how Jean Bennett Sunfire teams work. Geo and Anemo just can’t exist as auras creatable by the player character, they can only be the trigger element. There’s no frame perfect timing you can do to stop this

    • @SCL_POP
      @SCL_POP 13 годин тому +1

      @@ArgosThePeacockNope doesn’t work

    • @izzme5204
      @izzme5204 11 годин тому +1

      Not to mention the weird interaction of pyro in burning. They should really fix it.

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 11 годин тому

      @izzme5204 What weird interaction?

  • @rishabhbhatnagar9632
    @rishabhbhatnagar9632 3 години тому +1

    Man i m really happy seeing how poeple are giving different ideas on how to use pyro travler.its awesome here.😊

  • @Zarya.
    @Zarya. 14 годин тому +6

    I think to put this into context with 4star constellations becoming so hard to get, if you dont have c4 xiangling with a 3 month worth farmed emblem and a 12 hour farmed catch: Pyro traveler is going to be an upgrade in EVERY team meta players would want to use xiangling.
    My second account is ar59 with a c1 xiangling and i have lots of characters like ganyu and kinich that would want her but)))) you know how it is, so FINALLY we are getting an alternative, either way for 90% of players who started playing less than 2 years ago this is an S tier character

  • @nereas_gaming
    @nereas_gaming 10 годин тому +4

    To me the best thing about pyro traveler is that we finally have a traveler who can be a functional onfield carry or decent off field support for people who like to play traveler during story quests and events. I don't really care much if traveler is top meta for abyss. I spend ~95% of my time in Genshin playing non-meta teams including abyss clears. I'm glad we can finally put traveler on a lot more than just hyperbloom teams without effectively playing a 3 man team carrying traveler around contributing nothing.

    • @Not_SARU
      @Not_SARU 4 години тому

      without running meme dps id not even go inside abyss more than once
      haitham one side arle the other in and out 20 minute adventure

  • @mr.cat.6284
    @mr.cat.6284 12 годин тому +4

    From my knowledge traveler has 2 forms of skill the interesting one hits once every second (can trigger burgeon more often than pyro archon) which is important for burgeon teams because you dont need to build er which makes her better than thoma.

  • @sherifffruitfly
    @sherifffruitfly 14 годин тому +3

    Good - literally what I was wondering re: XL replacement!

  • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
    @ascreamingarcticfox5395 13 годин тому +6

    i'd like to see you cover main dps traveler! a lot of people have wanted an actual dps traveler for a long time and this traveler finally allows that. could he be competitive with any other pyro dps's like klee, yanfei, or yoimiya? etcetc
    if pyro mc could at least be klee-level i would be impressed

    • @trickmonster7905
      @trickmonster7905 8 годин тому

      Klee is amazing so that prob won’t happen. Yoimiya level maybe.

    • @OrumaitiO
      @OrumaitiO 7 годин тому

      @@trickmonster7905 Both are incredibly strong. Yoi still does amazing dmg.

    • @ascreamingarcticfox5395
      @ascreamingarcticfox5395 6 годин тому

      @@trickmonster7905 id say yoimiya is better than klee, but they both are around the same level

  • @zferolie
    @zferolie 14 годин тому +4

    So funny story. While going for c6 chev, i got c6 raiden way before that lol....😢 but now i can fully take advantage of c6 raiden with pyro travler. Super hyped for this

  • @gabrielbezerra8261
    @gabrielbezerra8261 14 годин тому +4

    Since the Mavuika leaks points towards her being a DPS (another Pyro DPS supposably) I've decided to pull for Chasca instead and get her on the rerun.
    I do not regret, first of all, Chasca is very fun to play, but in any case I hope traveller is at least better than Xiangling in *some* teams. I can't keep playing with her and Bennett everywhere 😅

  • @kingdoom5022
    @kingdoom5022 15 годин тому +33

    Dendro MC is the best by far

    • @Light_Zee
      @Light_Zee 14 годин тому

      Agreed 💯

    • @KingArokh
      @KingArokh 14 годин тому +16

      If we pretend Cinder City does not exist yes. All things considered, PMC does seem to be the better unit.

    • @Light_Zee
      @Light_Zee 14 годин тому +2

      @@KingArokh
      He doesn't exist yet
      And that is the effect of Cinder City not PMC
      I think Ororon can do the same, if so then Ororon should be better
      But yeah he would be better MC

    • @cadeemmusgrove7791
      @cadeemmusgrove7791 14 годин тому +1

      @@KingArokhto be fair, that’s because the bar is so low with us lacking pyro units from natlan.
      He should be good in burgeon though so by default he’ll have that niche if you’d rather play him over Thoma.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 14 годин тому +1

      @@KingArokh In practice both of them pretty niche buffers/appliers.

  • @dear_totheheart
    @dear_totheheart 13 годин тому +1

    "Do it myself" more often ;) Love it, great coverage Angelo
    Lets hope for the best, so far between Pyro Traveler and Mavuika, super disappointed and don't like the lack of versatility/BIS and advancement beyond circle impact/Bennet I had assumed these supposed highly awaited and hyped Pyro units are in game! So far for me Natlan has been such a waste

  • @Shane_A_M
    @Shane_A_M 15 годин тому +7

    If the skill cooldown was 16 seconds he would be good for Clorinde Overload, since that’s how long Clorinde’s skill cooldown is.

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  15 годин тому +10

      Someone mentioned sac sword so we will try that

    • @PuneetSharma-uw1kd
      @PuneetSharma-uw1kd 12 годин тому

      The cd has been buffed to 18 sec seconds in v3

    • @PuneetSharma-uw1kd
      @PuneetSharma-uw1kd 12 годин тому

      ​@JelloImpact Hey, I think you missed the v3 update, but the skill's cd has been reduced to 18s. Not great, but much more manageable.

    • @TheRoleplayer40k
      @TheRoleplayer40k 8 годин тому +2

      My rotations are so bad that I won’t even notice the difference lol

    •  6 годин тому

      ​@@TheRoleplayer40k same 😘

  • @tyresewilliams7009
    @tyresewilliams7009 14 годин тому +2

    @1:52 “20s cooldown, ouch”
    Me, coped out: Sooooo he works with Barbara 🎉🎉😁

  • @k5nz15
    @k5nz15 12 годин тому +2

    i think c6 crit on field is going to work really well.
    free c1 buff, free 20 pyro dmg bonus, free 40 crit dmg from c6, 40 crit rate from obsidian. you can also top that with an r5 harbinger of dawn that will give even more crit stats.
    i'm gonna try Furina-Bennett-Xilonen. the classic.
    well, i'm also preparing a support cinder city set too 😅

    • @meikkuikamuzu5869
      @meikkuikamuzu5869 8 годин тому

      Yes, but muivaka will be 100x better lol but I’m glad traveler zan finally do good damage!

  • @amphiptered.5355
    @amphiptered.5355 9 годин тому +2

    Finally, I am more hyped for the pyro traveler than anything in the next patch (including the pyro archon)
    Edit: If we doompost about pyro MC will we get buffs. I just want a great Traveler for once.

    • @crem44
      @crem44 8 годин тому

      ask the cn players to do that, they dont care about us

  • @hugedeal8611
    @hugedeal8611 9 годин тому +1

    After the hydro traveler Hoyo owes us a pyro MC that is pretty much furnia on cocaine but pyro

  • @haydenz0
    @haydenz0 12 годин тому +1

    One interesting thing about the tap version of the skill is that its a Burgeon trigger that can work with driver Yaoyao. I dont know if Yaoyao will actually be good, but the characted titled "burgeoning grace" who gives herself dendro res on burst, will finally have a burgeon team option.
    Yaoyao, Pyro MC/Mavuika, Nahida, Furina
    Notably I think this might be a team where Nahida wants to be on Golden Troupe and possibly crit stats (EM sands) because Yaoyao will be using deepwood to shred and Nahida doesnt need to be max EM like Alhaitham or electro quickbloom teams where those onfielders can use Nahidas EM buff for more damage (yeah unfortunately Nahida burst doesnt buff off field character EM).

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 12 годин тому +2

      That team won't work because Furina's hydro app isn't that fast, although you can go Yelan/ Xingqiu and they might be enough but Furina def isn't.

  • @reactiondavant-garde3391
    @reactiondavant-garde3391 14 годин тому +8

    I would be happy if he is really an up-grade for the Raiden-Chevreuse teams. Waiting around 3-2 seconds with Xiangling is so painfull and her energy needs stilll too high even with Raiden in the team.

    • @keithcruz8932
      @keithcruz8932 13 годин тому +1

      PMC will only be a buffer for Raiden-Chev teams and you still need to use XL for her damage. So yeah, no one can escape XL.
      One thing to note is if PMC can efficiently battery XL so she can burst every rotation.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 12 годин тому +1

      @@keithcruz8932 I am not entirly sure. It is depend on how high Raiden investment, no? I can imagine sutations where having Kujou or Bennet as the 4th option will be good.

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 12 годин тому +2

      @@keithcruz8932 XL damage is NOT that high in those teams with no vape or melt, honestly PMC will probably be a sidegrade, offering damage bonus to Raiden and Fishcl/Sara.

    • @flamezforthegamez1056
      @flamezforthegamez1056 12 годин тому

      He could be especially if you move Ororon into the team. This is since Pyro Traveler does nightsoul aligned damage triggering Ororon's A1 and Pyro Traveler can be on full EM for overloaded damage, or can be on 4pc Tenacity, or even a co-dps build with Raiden with a Codex build.

    • @keithcruz8932
      @keithcruz8932 10 годин тому

      @@cybersaber877 Jokes on you because my XL deals 60k Pyronado Damage per hit on my Raiden-Chev teams.
      If your XL can't do that then it's your loss. Build her more efficiently I guess.

  • @Grimmy-mm8mx
    @Grimmy-mm8mx 14 годин тому +3

    Dropped the ball for this one, he's basically a good cinder city holder for any chevruse comps and is pretty decent in hutao double hydro, buffing literally everyone on that team, better than sucrose and kazuha for that slot

    • @JelloImpact
      @JelloImpact  14 годин тому +2

      Yeah I can see me undervaluing cinder city for sure. I’ll research more and correct as needed for the next beta video and pinned comment

    • @Grimmy-mm8mx
      @Grimmy-mm8mx 14 годин тому

      Besides that, he also can be a decent pick in arle overload, moreover pyro traveller's application isn't crazy enough to steal any vapes so he'd be good in most vape comps both, currently and in the future
      A couple characters you didn't consider he would be an upgrade for in your list
      Arle, hutao, klee, tartaglia (sucrose/kazuha side grade), yoimiya, diluc, beidou (in overload)

    • @Grimmy-mm8mx
      @Grimmy-mm8mx 14 годин тому

      @@JelloImpact sounds good, i apologise if i sound a little rude, english isn't my first language, all love, i fw ur videos heavy

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix 13 годин тому +2

      I mean u don't exactly wanna run kaz/sucrose in double hydro hutao teams anyway

    • @Grimmy-mm8mx
      @Grimmy-mm8mx 13 годин тому

      @@ISMythix most used options i see in those teams besides fischl for overvape and zhongli for comfort, that last slot is still up for grabs, i probably should've clarified early but im not talking about double hydro with furina, i was referring to xinque/yelan double hydro

  • @sahilsultan5267
    @sahilsultan5267 12 годин тому +3

    its like 'Another Disappointment'

  • @michitariru
    @michitariru 11 годин тому +1

    I more than anything wouldve wanted to see pyro traveler be a Xiangling upgrade so we actually had better off field application. Being a contender for a f2p alternative to Mavuika wouldve been amazing since Im on the fence about pulling for her after seeing the motorcycle be part of her combat (just not exciting for me I like it for her for exploration not combat) but I have so much Cinder City sitting around while still trying to perfect Kinich's build I might as well just build pyro Lumine to help buff Kinich and Wriothesley more

  • @MechbossBoogie
    @MechbossBoogie 7 годин тому +1

    If Pyro Traveler gets a mode of mobility with all of this, I'm switching away from Dendro.

  • @rtxchimkin
    @rtxchimkin 10 годин тому

    My favorite youtuber giving out my favorite natlan characters 🎉

  • @summoner0005
    @summoner0005 14 годин тому +4

    Doesn't one of the constellations give a small buff to party damage?

    • @kailebdv
      @kailebdv 12 годин тому +2

      There is its really low tho it's like 6% for non natlan chars and 12% for natlan chars

  • @shadowrkz2525
    @shadowrkz2525 14 годин тому +1

    Let's hope things will change since we have like a month left before 5.3 release.

  • @jayrpar
    @jayrpar 9 годин тому +1

    Make traveler great again!

  • @leukos22
    @leukos22 13 годин тому

    I do feel like PMC's biggest strengths are of course that Cinder City artifact set but also the fact that he doesn't really need to use his burst - his skill is what's providing the off-field Pyro damage and in that context I imagine that he's probably going to be better than most of our expectations are - so long as they're grounded in the reality that it's the Genshin MC and not Star Rail's.
    I do gotta wonder if going full EM for Burgeon and Overload is the play for him if his damage is lackluster though because he can get away with running low ER% he's free to load up on 800-1000 EM and drop occasional 20k+ Overloads in Chevreuse teams or 30k Burgeons in teams where Thoma typically is used in. It's just that the current landscape for Burgeon is kind of untapped at the moment with Kinich being the only real character that runs Burgeon these days and only rarely. Here's hoping we get more reasons to play Burgeon in the future!

    • @k5nz15
      @k5nz15 12 годин тому +2

      you kinda want to use burst actually.
      it refunds night soul points. which directly increases the E duration

  • @haydenz0
    @haydenz0 14 годин тому +1

    Lets not forget the 6% (or 12% if natlan) buff that Constellation 1 gives to the active character

  • @ArgosThePeacock
    @ArgosThePeacock 14 годин тому +1

    Let me get this straight:
    Mualani, Kinich, Chasca: Obsidian Codex
    Kachina, Xilonen, Ororon, Pyro Traveler and Citlali:
    Cinder City
    Mavuika:
    Both
    Lan Yan:
    None

  • @haroonafridi231
    @haroonafridi231 53 хвилини тому

    I just hope the traveler's final kit is amazing

  • @AevyCh
    @AevyCh 5 годин тому +1

    Pyro MC is significantly better than Thoma for Burgeon:
    1. Thoma's Shield can't even withstand Burgeon's self damage. So unlike Kuki, you're still forced to bring a healer with you.
    2. Thoma's Pseudo Interruption Resistance doesn't exist since Burgeon will break the shield instantly.
    3. In terms of buffing, Cinder City is not only stronger than C6 Thoma, but also partywide & not locked to NA/CA/Plunge only.
    4. Pyro MC is absolutely *FREE*.

  • @baguette_connoisseur
    @baguette_connoisseur 14 годин тому +1

    Just once I wanted meta Traveler. But I guess Hoyo would rather turn in their grave than give us a meta Traveler kit.

  • @TheJH1015
    @TheJH1015 11 годин тому +1

    wait why did you put Wriothesley in decent teammate but Ganyu in bad/maybe fun? Wouldn't Ganyu be better because she doesn't attack as often, so the slightly slower off field application from PyroMC wouldn't be that big of an issue? or am I overlooking something?

  • @Raykushi
    @Raykushi 13 годин тому +2

    "we are going to be predicting with...a high degree of accuracy"
    Bro lmao
    While we're here, a lot of your team analysis doesn't take into account the alternative version of PMC's skill which is the ring. This ring applies pyro every second with the same cooldown and duration but less damage, so that version of the skill would be really good for characters like Neuvilette, with the only caveat being that you'd have to be in melee range. That traveller would also be good for Burgeon assuming the ring hits the cores.

    • @TheJH1015
      @TheJH1015 11 годин тому +1

      that's the tap version right? which would be pretty good for Ganyu Melt as well I would assume?

    • @Raykushi
      @Raykushi 6 годин тому

      @@TheJH1015 Yeah so basically it's
      Tap: Ring - must be melee range to hit, but hits opponents every second, less damage.
      Hold: Threshold - Is a coordinated attack, can be used at range, every 3 seconds, higher damage.
      I actually really like this approach because some teams prefer more or less application, and have different behaviour for applying pyro(you're not gonna be going melee with Kinich for example).

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix Годину тому

      @@Raykushi the pyro travelers tap skill has a standard icd of 2.5 secs idk where u got that they can apply pyro every1 sec that's literally xiangling level pyro app but even better since it would target the enemy

  • @icefish17
    @icefish17 12 годин тому +1

    Maybe I'll go Pyro Traveler DPS, like I do now in my Electro Traveler taser team xD. It's just fun to use. Not strong, but fun.

  • @lastadmiral4432
    @lastadmiral4432 6 годин тому

    I feel like we're all ignoring the burgeon team that she enables with the tap version that applies pyro every 3 seconds but hits with pyro every 1 second

  • @Bharathsimhareddyellanki
    @Bharathsimhareddyellanki 12 годин тому +1

    0:42 when did traveller become good enough to skip an archon, Actually the question we should ask is Will traveller be good enough to compete with good 4 stars

  • @matheusbispo7252
    @matheusbispo7252 10 годин тому

    I think the traveler will be just a walking bar breaker for the new enemies from Natlan and nothing else

  • @reactiondavant-garde3391
    @reactiondavant-garde3391 14 годин тому

    For Cinder City the character who hold it need to trigger an elemental reaction of the element you want to buff. Meaning only Anemo units can buff other Anemo units with Cinder City.

  • @soorajkadnor4642
    @soorajkadnor4642 15 годин тому +3

    He could rival Bennett. 🔥 Since Mavuika rivals Xianhling. 🔥

    • @crwn_clwn
      @crwn_clwn 15 годин тому +10

      the copium is strong on this one

  • @darkdude1996ify
    @darkdude1996ify 2 години тому

    Reminder Cinder City requires the wielder to trigger a reaction. Because Traveler is Pyro, it doesn't work with Geo, doesn't work with Anemo, and can be really annoying to set up in some teams

  • @itshorizon3233
    @itshorizon3233 6 годин тому +1

    Only dendro traveler is usable

  • @mushyeye
    @mushyeye 11 годин тому

    im do sosos excited for mauvika and citlali, been wating fr pyro travler, second pyro sword user lmaoo

  • @julestorres6544
    @julestorres6544 10 годин тому +1

    Sac sword! Just let me swap out Xiangling! 😭😂

  • @vinzegcs
    @vinzegcs 3 години тому

    We will always have Dendro Traveler to fall back on.

  • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
    @DragonoftheDarknessFlame 14 годин тому +1

    Burgeon here I go~

  • @labellpepper6840
    @labellpepper6840 13 годин тому +2

    Pyro mc will be best in slot in kinich teams bc you can give him cider city and Emile deepwood give kinich a massive buff while Emile says around the same damage and pyro mc c1 buffs everyone

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 12 годин тому +1

      burning keeps the pyro aura so PMC won't be the one procing burning there so no CC buff sadly.

    • @manilarome9600
      @manilarome9600 6 годин тому

      ​@@cybersaber877yeah. Adding Furina might solve the burning issue though. It'll be a burgeon team. Though it sounds weird, Furina could hold deepwood

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 5 годин тому

      @@manilarome9600 Baizhu holds deepwood, he'll apply it consistently

    • @manilarome9600
      @manilarome9600 4 години тому

      @@cybersaber877 Could YaoYao work since she can heal too? I don't have Baizhu yet, but I'm planning to pull for him on his rerun. Bennett would be better, but putting deepwood on him sounds wrong.

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 4 години тому

      @@manilarome9600 Yea you can use YaoYao since Kinich on-field time is short enough you can even do a short YaoYao burst to stack fanfair faster.

  • @anonymousmouse7161
    @anonymousmouse7161 10 годин тому

    Traveller being the only possible cinder city set user in a Chevreuse team is actually immeasurably good. Ororon is technically an option but his DPS is just absurdly low compared to Xiangling or Fischl.

  • @spyderx6
    @spyderx6 14 годин тому

    I don't enjoy leveling all the skills on all the elements for Traveler, however, I love Lumine, so she's 9,9,9 in all the current elements :D

  • @StanTheWoz
    @StanTheWoz 13 годин тому +1

    If nothing else, I appreciate having a cope option that doesn't require a ton of ER for Chasca and Clorinde. Lame that it's just worse than Mavuika in a lot of teams though
    Also I feel like in practice almost all of my rotations end up being 20-21 seconds, even if you can go faster on paper it just doesn't work out in practice most of the time

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 12 годин тому

      I wouldn't make a free character better than a limited time archon lol, I wish they were too though

  • @Ugawugaman
    @Ugawugaman 6 годин тому

    So is this just more Raiden Mei supremacy? They make Chevy tied to her banner and also kinda look like her little sister and now make a traveler spec that goes really well with said comp.

  • @Tirriou94
    @Tirriou94 12 годин тому

    I hope the cinder city buff makes up for Xiangling's damage for Raiden/Yae/Chevreuse team

  • @Redshot-w9m
    @Redshot-w9m 13 годин тому +1

    So basically they made xiangling traveller but worse? Im gonna be positive and say at least they tried.... But why cant they just change the normak chain a bit like why do i have to ascend my normals everytime and its the same. Anyway great videon man thanks for the info

  • @KHFreack
    @KHFreack 14 годин тому

    im mostly curious if a burgeon setup can work with pyro mc,you have 12 sec of uptime and can onfield the mc with c6 to have a pretty high amount of proc rate in terms of burgeon cores.
    doh i probs use mc in my chasca team as a pyro unit for the dmg buffs and so my ororon can use a different set(i assume golden troupe given that as far as i know his offield passive still counts as elemental skill dmg)

  • @haydenz0
    @haydenz0 14 годин тому +1

    Im a bit worried about Kinich because with how burning works, Pyro application can't trigger the burning reaction after the first rotation on an enemy. (This is because Burning reaction creates a pyro aura, meaning new pyro application can't trigger burning.) This will hurt Cinder City uptime and probably make noblesse Bennett better

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix 14 годин тому

      yes this is an issue that would be solved by either one rotating the enemy (unrealistic) or swapping emilie for a hydro/electro/cryo, even geos like zhongli and chiori could consume the burning aura pretty sure

    • @haydenz0
      @haydenz0 13 годин тому

      ​@@ISMythix yeah but you don't want to consume Burning aura since Kinich passive want burning to fuel is nightsoul points.

    • @cybersaber877
      @cybersaber877 12 годин тому

      @@haydenz0 He also gets points from burgeon, Kinich, Baizhu Furina, PMC, will allow for there to be forward vapes on Furina, still burning with PMC triggering it, Furina buff on Kinich and herself and maybe PMC if their damage is good enough raw, and maybe some burgeons/burning damage with a full em PMC

    • @ISMythix
      @ISMythix 3 години тому

      @@haydenz0 these teams will be burnvape, crystal burn, burgeon, overburn, quickburn etc

  • @6XR-KRATOS
    @6XR-KRATOS 3 години тому

    W intro with thanos lmao

  • @Estrio21
    @Estrio21 14 годин тому +1

    Im kicking Xiangling to the Curb in my Childe team regardless of it being worse lol. So sick of her. Planning on getting mavuika for a double carry team With her and Childe.

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 12 годин тому

    Since I'm getting Mavuika anyway, I'm wondering if it's better to just use PMC for Kinich Team. Kinich, Bennett, Furina and PMC. Instead of relying on triggering burning for Kinich to get Nightsoul for Kinich, it would rely on Burgeon. Burgeon doesn't have ICD so as long as traveler skill procs frequently, might be able to get more consistent cannon shots even if with Furina. And this is at least better than Dehya and Thoma.

  • @exploreevery
    @exploreevery 10 годин тому

    😳 bro covering unreleased content that we mostly like

  • @CoachAlexandreChamberland
    @CoachAlexandreChamberland 14 годин тому

    Are there any Klee teams which you feel are now, or will soon be, very competitive, and easy to clear with, if not necessarily amongst the best teams at large? I mean teams where you specifically want Klee to be in that slot, not just one where she works as a possible on-field character.

  • @razgriz-007
    @razgriz-007 Годину тому

    traveler is actually better in burgeon, not because c6 provides infusion, but the skill tap version is the fastest trigger (1s) in pyro and works like kuki shinobu ring (a burgeon version of kuki), doesn't need too much ER due to his passives and able to use sac sword to refresh skill, the burst is not only for damage but also for night soul point recovery (gives total of 28 nightsoul in 4s) which means extended skill duration
    additionally traveler has good supporting synergy with mavuika as night soul battery in case player doesnt have xilonen

  • @ronaldoribeiro4306
    @ronaldoribeiro4306 8 годин тому

    Predicting with a high degree accuracy it's funny

  • @abukhaliiil1211
    @abukhaliiil1211 14 годин тому

    If i’m not mistaken, cinder city buff only applies if the holder of the does a reaction. so mono pyro and animo dps characters aside from chasca won’t get the buff because ideally, the pyro traveler is not causing a reaction in those teams.

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 13 годин тому

      You can add a character that help you triggering a reaction, Usually mono pyro means 3 pyro characters

    • @abukhaliiil1211
      @abukhaliiil1211 5 годин тому

      @@lafeechloe6998 You can’t play mono pyro with a reaction. At best you need swirl or crystallize which can only be triggered by anemo and geo characters. Pmc is a pyro character and he can’t react with mono pyro, geo and anemo characters. Making him absolutely useless in them.

  • @Pootier276
    @Pootier276 4 години тому

    Would Pyro Traveler be a good replacement for bennet in a Chev Raiden team if Kujou Sara is already providing an atk buff?

  • @matheuscopercini6498
    @matheuscopercini6498 12 годин тому

    How many times will the Pyro Traveller enable Kinich to shot with their night soul recharge passive?

  • @Vickiraytive
    @Vickiraytive 12 годин тому

    Honestly, Traveler is pretty good when well invested. Yes, it takes a lot of investment to make them good. Yes, they get gapped by basically every limited 5 star. Yes Starrail is a different game.
    If you like a character enough, you can make them work. I've seen some pretty good abyss runs by MC mains who like the challenge. Also have seen some pretty cool challenges to play MC with region locked allies. [Meaning you can only use characters from whatever region you're in]
    My all time favorite was a run done by TarZBlammo getting 36 stars using only 1% usage or lower characters.
    Whales would probably have zero reason to ever play MC. But if they did, they'd probably be pleasantly surprised and actually stop complaining content is too easy.

  • @bushy9780
    @bushy9780 10 годин тому

    cinder city set will not work on navia team because pyro is the aura that geo reacts with

  • @harshil9270
    @harshil9270 14 годин тому

    best traveller for real

  • @theparthpoint
    @theparthpoint Годину тому

    Actually what u forgot is pyro traveler has a skill tap version too where he does a pyro dmg every second yes it will not apply pyro to enemy every second, but to bloom core so a much better burgon teammate and burgon is better then hyperbloom coz it has a aoe

  • @KingOfMalevolence
    @KingOfMalevolence 14 годин тому +5

    After the Hydro Traveller literally anything that's remotely usable is good

  • @Midnight_May474
    @Midnight_May474 14 годин тому

    GUYS, I NEED SOME HELP!
    How good is Mavuika pyro application? I need an off-field Pyro character thats not Xialing. So want the Archon for this reason. The debate comes in because I want Citlali,too . I really like Citlali I think her playstyle is cute! I really can't decide on who I want more 😭. Also, I refuse to build Xiangling.

  • @karma_kun9833
    @karma_kun9833 14 годин тому

    Can be used with hydro dragon?

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 12 годин тому

    Important question: is the pyro traveler's global ICD 3 seconds? Or just their skills?
    Because if their E has 3 seconds and their Q is 3 seconds you should be able to stack these effects by doing Q/E or E/Q, with a charged hit between them to space out their ICDs, and the bet efdect would be pyro app every 1.5 seconds.
    Does this not work? If not why not?

    • @studiesinflux1304
      @studiesinflux1304 8 годин тому

      The pyro MC bursf seems to just replenish the skill a bit and give one extra hit with separate ICD at least for now, similar to how Kachina’s constellation 2 gives you 2 extra Turbo Twirly hits and also allows one extra geo reaction from the burst’s hit itself. I haven’t seen anything about skill and burst being separate damage over time.
      If you want to spam more than 3 pyro applications per second from MC, you should be able to combine the skill with pyro infused normal and charged attacks.
      The only character I know who has a strange ICD nerf across attack types is Lisa, that has tap skill and normal attack sharing an ICD. Most other characters have separate ICDs for normal attack, skill, charged attack, plunge attack, and burst. (Some abilities have special ICD, but only on that one ability.)

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 3 години тому

      @studiesinflux1304 not more than 3 per second, more than 1 per 3 seconds.
      And I didn't say 2 DOTs. The E is a dot.. The Q appeared to be a coordinated attack at an interval.

  • @dwfrias2970
    @dwfrias2970 15 годин тому

    YEEESSSS LETS GOOOO!!!!!

  • @Light_Zee
    @Light_Zee 15 годин тому +1

    That's the Burst name???
    I thought you forgot it 😅

  • @pulledporc5334
    @pulledporc5334 11 годин тому

    Nothing could be more diappointing than Hydro traveler, lol.

  • @jazzios
    @jazzios 7 годин тому

    if u go full EM pyro traveler wouldnt they almost always be better in overload teams? especially after the overload buffs

  • @KoiinuNe
    @KoiinuNe Годину тому

    0:48 there's no way anyone would skip an archon for the budget version of them. and not even a good budget version xDD

  • @youll.befine
    @youll.befine 14 годин тому +1

    Is traveller even the real MC in Genshin or is there some other MC we don't know about. Please show some consideration to the traveller Genshin. WTH.

  • @danamb9124
    @danamb9124 10 годин тому

    hey new player and also kinda an idiot but wondering how pyro traveler can work with lyney, how do u prock cinder city if its mono pyro? don't u need to prock a reaction? Cuz its not like u can swirl or crystallize it, cuz then traveler wont own the reaction. right?

    • @studiesinflux1304
      @studiesinflux1304 8 годин тому

      You would need another element that Pyro MC triggers from, so you start by applying hydro, cryo, electro, or dendro and have the MC hit the afflicted enemy with their Pyro before switching to Lyney

  • @irltiger
    @irltiger 10 годин тому

    wanderer cant use the cinder city buff if the pyro traveler cant swirl himself

  • @torbjornlindholm4098
    @torbjornlindholm4098 3 години тому

    12:08
    Doesn’t work with Wanderer since Anemo can’t be an aura.