Its worth filming sometimes as its something people neglect to do as part of a normal service. An automatic will always run better with a clean and polished variator
Hi Mark, exactly what I did mate. New slightly lighter rollers at 6g each and a set of the dampeners. I'll throw them in tomorrow or Saturday morning. I've also got brand new side panels to finish the bike off
@@motorcyclerescuer I never did any shimming back in the day and never had any issues with it. I don't think the varistor actually sits out any further but it allows full movement of the pulley so the belt should use more of the pulley when it closes up. You can still shim it if you want. It will either make it slip the belt or it will make the front pulley smaller for better idle/pulling away
So... I currently have a 125cc longjia trevis, I may now look into this and give it a clean, thank you for the info Charlie, but I gotta know... did the guy go back on the deal? I hate it when people do that!
He added £50 to the agreed price which was annoying and then ignored me for a while even though I had visited and saw the bike a couple of hours before. However, he then did message me and I grabbed the first available van and collected it. So yes I've got a great new mini project dude.
Pretty simple system really. Front pulley adjusts according to engine torque and speed by spinning enough to push the weight of the rollers outwards and pull the pulley gap closer together. That makes the belt travel to the wider edge essentially changing gear. And when that happens the rear pulley opens up making the belt run lower keeping a balance in gearing. The width and length of the belt can alter the idling/pulling away gear ratio And top end. Different weight rollers effect how long it stays in the 'pulling away' gear. So lighter rollers will cause revving out as if you were staying in 1st or 2nd gear longer. Heavier rollers will be like changing into 5th at 1400rpm... There's also a spring in the rear pulley that effects how it changes down during deceleration and how long it holds the rollers back by restricting the belt travel to the outside edge. 👌 Simple see
Its good to see the workings really. I've got 6g rollers to go in now which should help it. And I'm surprised with how well its running considering how bad them rollers were.
They would only ruin the rollers by falling into them and mashing around in there. They are only to minimise rattle really over all. Luckily I've got a set with the rollers. Also got some brand new side panels for rhe bike. Cheers Riley
Another cracking informative video mate ,what a brill lil runaround that will make for someone love it ,yep totally agree with keeping it as a hobby and happy place keeps the passion for what you do alive too . All the best hope that seller saw sense and got back to you .
No a flat headed put one of the bolts back in at the bottom and put the flat headed on the teeth and a socket to get the bolt off no need for a impact drill saves you money if your fussy 😊😊😊😊
I think it’s a fantastic little scooter, make someone very happy. If I was on it I think it would do about 15mph tops, 6ft 2inch and 23 stone doesn’t half slow the buggers down lol, too many pork pies I’m afraid to say lol. I saw a 250 vespa GTS today which was pulling at me but I’ve no more space, and at the front of the bungalow would be too much temptation for the little tinker’s round here. I’ve looked on eBay Charlie and it’s not showing mother’s from any uk sellers, only USA don’t know if I’m not doing it correctly? Or did you send to America for your tub? I’ll leave it unless you can send a link if you get time, I know with work and garage you are took up. I don’t know how you do it Mr Man.
Thsts the uk link David. And if you looking for a vespa I have my blue 300 up for sale at £2250 which is £750 less then its true value mate. 2015 plate low milage.
I’ve ordered the mother’s thanks for the link, I don’t know why I didn’t get the list your search produced, I’m no good at using eBay it would seem. As to the Vespa, and the 250 I saw but won’t proceed with, because I don’t have anymore room to keep one plus the 250 was very cheap because it was bodily very tatty looks like someone had problems keeping upright on it. I enjoyed doing my Vespa PX 200efl like I said but that’s in the garage just sat there I’m keeping it because I did it all myself bar for some quality welding of new steel into the frame. Had I done that it would have stayed rough, it’s been around 7 years since I completed it and nothing is coming through because it was new steel where it needed it. But if I had the room a 300 would be great I’ve had two of them before, one of mine was a 2015 model that was red, the first one was a 2007 in yellow, they are fantastic commuter’s, good on fuel and excellent away from lights (compared to cars) and great fun for filtering. May pee’d off car drivers around Nottingham
It's not that simple I'm afraid. First of all you would need to de restrict the cdi, have you done that yet? I've got a vid that shows you how to. Then you ideally would want a better variator in that aims for speed rather then restriction. Once you did them 2 changes you would test different roller weights. The new racing variators normally come with a bunch of weights which is helpful
Iv weight the old ones and tried to guess as best but the only other thing iv got is when I ride for a bit it bogs and cuts off iv replaced the carb for a brand new one new fuel filter change the oil still the same any suggestions would you think new battery
I would suggest re setting the valves first. These have to be done why the bike is cold. So after sitting for a few hours. The battery shouldn't make much difference. A new coil wouldn't hurt just incase the old is playing up. But valve setting would be my next step.
I wouldn't bother. It's restricted in the ecu so wouldn't matter what you did to it. If you can de restrict the cdi then I would put a racing variator on first.
@@motorcyclerescuer yes i did the de restrict cutting the green wire as show in your video and the racing variator can be just the polini hi speed one? Thank you for the fast response
It probably wouldn't be worth it. It's to restricted in its airbox and exhaust to bother doing really. For now it's best to de restrict it like you did and put a better variator on. Then just wait until you move to a 125cc
The variator is always OK to change. Manufacturers have to create fairly gentle ones but a slightly better designed aftermarket variator can bring even a little bike to life. I only bought rollers and bumpers in the end rather then a racing one
He called me back later and said i could view. I don't know what was going through his mind. I think he thought it was worth more, but it wasn't, proce was about right.
Yes I collected later that day. I think its done as a project really as i spend last Sunday on it. I'll see how much footage I have left from last week, if I've got plenty I'll show the new project vid tonight, otherwise it will be tomorrow Anthony. You have seen a pick lucky enough lol
Ped looking good and moted mint hope you got new project sorted and he's not messing with you
I got it collected Brian. Done some bits and pieces to it and if I'm lucky ut will he up for sale this weekend mate
This is your main job Charlie, keeping us entertained!! 👍👍
I have a whole other world I work in Carl.
This is my therapy time. My hobby. It keeps me sane mate.
Thanks for the info on the variators
Its worth filming sometimes as its something people neglect to do as part of a normal service. An automatic will always run better with a clean and polished variator
Great little project someone will be very happy with that kudos to you
I've just got new rollers and brand new side panels for it. Then someone will get a stunner for £500 or £600. Its pokey enough aswell to be fair
Good vid Charlie, i'd just buy the roller kit too to maxamise your profit
Hi Mark, exactly what I did mate. New slightly lighter rollers at 6g each and a set of the dampeners. I'll throw them in tomorrow or Saturday morning. I've also got brand new side panels to finish the bike off
That's a good little 50cc scoot now . Another one resurrected .
Peace and love brother ✌ 💚
Yes it came up so nice I think. I really didn't think it would look or run like this
wow the rollers !
Crazy right, worst I've seen ever.
I used to take the plate off my varistor to derestrict it. The plate stops the full expansion of the cage. 👍👍
I always thought that if you tool the plate off you were to shim behind anyway so the belt was still running straight?
Thats what I've always done.
@@motorcyclerescuer I never did any shimming back in the day and never had any issues with it. I don't think the varistor actually sits out any further but it allows full movement of the pulley so the belt should use more of the pulley when it closes up. You can still shim it if you want. It will either make it slip the belt or it will make the front pulley smaller for better idle/pulling away
I'll try both I think Laguna. Thanks for the tip mate. I'll let you know how both feel.
@@motorcyclerescuer all good mate 👍 have fun
So... I currently have a 125cc longjia trevis, I may now look into this and give it a clean, thank you for the info Charlie, but I gotta know... did the guy go back on the deal? I hate it when people do that!
He added £50 to the agreed price which was annoying and then ignored me for a while even though I had visited and saw the bike a couple of hours before.
However, he then did message me and I grabbed the first available van and collected it.
So yes I've got a great new mini project dude.
All new to me the variators, so im still learning ,seems to go alright for a 50cc and looks ok without the sidepanels👍
Pretty simple system really. Front pulley adjusts according to engine torque and speed by spinning enough to push the weight of the rollers outwards and pull the pulley gap closer together. That makes the belt travel to the wider edge essentially changing gear. And when that happens the rear pulley opens up making the belt run lower keeping a balance in gearing.
The width and length of the belt can alter the idling/pulling away gear ratio And top end.
Different weight rollers effect how long it stays in the 'pulling away' gear. So lighter rollers will cause revving out as if you were staying in 1st or 2nd gear longer.
Heavier rollers will be like changing into 5th at 1400rpm...
There's also a spring in the rear pulley that effects how it changes down during deceleration and how long it holds the rollers back by restricting the belt travel to the outside edge. 👌 Simple see
@@MaNNeRz91 Thanks for that explanation ,that must have been what all the elastic band jokes were about 🤔😀👍cheers
Its good to see the workings really. I've got 6g rollers to go in now which should help it. And I'm surprised with how well its running considering how bad them rollers were.
The rubber mounts on mine fell out and that’s what ruined the rollers, didn’t think I needed them and the new rollers were awful after 3 rides.
They would only ruin the rollers by falling into them and mashing around in there. They are only to minimise rattle really over all.
Luckily I've got a set with the rollers. Also got some brand new side panels for rhe bike.
Cheers Riley
Another cracking informative video mate ,what a brill lil runaround that will make for someone love it ,yep totally agree with keeping it as a hobby and happy place keeps the passion for what you do alive too . All the best hope that seller saw sense and got back to you .
Exactly. A weekend thing keeps is happy. Completely agree
Cheers Tuck
No a flat headed put one of the bolts back in at the bottom and put the flat headed on the teeth and a socket to get the bolt off no need for a impact drill saves you money if your fussy 😊😊😊😊
Impact is so helpful though.
do you have to remove whole headlight on keeyway rkv to change front indicators
I'm not sure Ads although I feel like you do because they are integrated if I remember rightly mate
3 days is pretty good, my vids are 2 - 3 weeks behind.
Oh really, I normally film on a Saturday and Sunday and get the 4 vids out of it
🏍👍
I think it’s a fantastic little scooter, make someone very happy. If I was on it I think it would do about 15mph tops, 6ft 2inch and 23 stone doesn’t half slow the buggers down lol, too many pork pies I’m afraid to say lol. I saw a 250 vespa GTS today which was pulling at me but I’ve no more space, and at the front of the bungalow would be too much temptation for the little tinker’s round here. I’ve looked on eBay Charlie and it’s not showing mother’s from any uk sellers, only USA don’t know if I’m not doing it correctly? Or did you send to America for your tub? I’ll leave it unless you can send a link if you get time, I know with work and garage you are took up. I don’t know how you do it Mr Man.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254995070946?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AMmYTjE1THC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=CDLOYQ8UQj-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Thsts the uk link David.
And if you looking for a vespa I have my blue 300 up for sale at £2250 which is £750 less then its true value mate. 2015 plate low milage.
I’ve ordered the mother’s thanks for the link, I don’t know why I didn’t get the list your search produced, I’m no good at using eBay it would seem. As to the Vespa, and the 250 I saw but won’t proceed with, because I don’t have anymore room to keep one plus the 250 was very cheap because it was bodily very tatty looks like someone had problems keeping upright on it. I enjoyed doing my Vespa PX 200efl like I said but that’s in the garage just sat there I’m keeping it because I did it all myself bar for some quality welding of new steel into the frame. Had I done that it would have stayed rough, it’s been around 7 years since I completed it and nothing is coming through because it was new steel where it needed it. But if I had the room a 300 would be great I’ve had two of them before, one of mine was a 2015 model that was red, the first one was a 2007 in yellow, they are fantastic commuter’s, good on fuel and excellent away from lights (compared to cars) and great fun for filtering. May pee’d off car drivers around Nottingham
I agree, stunning bikes David. I'll be using this one while the adverts still up over the summer
hey variator rollers how many grams should they be
Absolutely depends on the bike mate. What bike are you talking about?
Iv got a peugeot v clic 2011 what weight rollers should they be
It's not that simple I'm afraid. First of all you would need to de restrict the cdi, have you done that yet? I've got a vid that shows you how to.
Then you ideally would want a better variator in that aims for speed rather then restriction. Once you did them 2 changes you would test different roller weights. The new racing variators normally come with a bunch of weights which is helpful
Iv weight the old ones and tried to guess as best but the only other thing iv got is when I ride for a bit it bogs and cuts off iv replaced the carb for a brand new one new fuel filter change the oil still the same any suggestions would you think new battery
I would suggest re setting the valves first. These have to be done why the bike is cold. So after sitting for a few hours.
The battery shouldn't make much difference.
A new coil wouldn't hurt just incase the old is playing up.
But valve setting would be my next step.
Hi Charley. Do you know what's happened to Danny DTS Essex his videos have all gone, hope he's ok.
No way? Let me check and get back to you Bob.
His channel is still live Bob
ua-cam.com/users/DTMotorcyclesEssex
@@motorcyclerescuer
Now that's weird I can't find him in search but your link works fine.
You tube having a hissy moment I quess.
Thanks Charlie 👍
It happens sometimes. It will go back to normal soon Bob.
What racing kit would you recommend for the v-clic
I wouldn't bother. It's restricted in the ecu so wouldn't matter what you did to it.
If you can de restrict the cdi then I would put a racing variator on first.
@@motorcyclerescuer yes i did the de restrict cutting the green wire as show in your video and the racing variator can be just the polini hi speed one?
Thank you for the fast response
And do you know if its possible to change it from 50cc to 70cc
@user-py2sx6mu4z yes exactly, that variator makes a big difference on its own.
It probably wouldn't be worth it. It's to restricted in its airbox and exhaust to bother doing really.
For now it's best to de restrict it like you did and put a better variator on.
Then just wait until you move to a 125cc
Good with scooter never a good idea to change from standard
The variator is always OK to change. Manufacturers have to create fairly gentle ones but a slightly better designed aftermarket variator can bring even a little bike to life.
I only bought rollers and bumpers in the end rather then a racing one
Hate when people mess u about not cool
He called me back later and said i could view. I don't know what was going through his mind. I think he thought it was worth more, but it wasn't, proce was about right.
@@motorcyclerescuer So are u buying?
Yes I collected later that day. I think its done as a project really as i spend last Sunday on it.
I'll see how much footage I have left from last week, if I've got plenty I'll show the new project vid tonight, otherwise it will be tomorrow Anthony.
You have seen a pick lucky enough lol
@@motorcyclerescuer nice 1 Charlie look forward to the vid