Speed, I just finished ruining my game's with Jungle Veno. Now I have to ruin games to re-learn slark pos 4, only to then continue ruining games once I learn how it works? Can we get like a "how to play phoenix" guide anytime soon? Our queue times have increased since offlaners have retired.
@@HasiburRahim Yes. It is exactly the same with me. It was not so long when there were only mid players and mostly I saw mid or feed trends. Now i guess its over
Agree If i have all roles selected you get Support the Most then mid. Aafelane you. Early get never and Sometimes offlane but Not really often@@HasiburRahim
@@legendarynoob4689 veno4 has been autowin with aba3. When were lv 3 enemy can't escape anymore just feed. They can even jungle just not all the time but after and between kills its good. Enemy start ti play more carefull so Im not focused at all.
I'm an ancient player and everytime I try to trade with their pos 5, their carry joins in and they 2v1 me. Also at lvl 1, if they just hug eachother in lane, you literally can't trade properly and you get bullied out so fast, they get lvl 2 before you and gg. Your pos 3 will flame your ass.
With my luck, I will likely have a lot of pos 4 slarks fail hard on my teams for the next month. Yes, he is “broken” if you know wtf you are doing. But this is most heroes given the proper situation.
Thanks for grief suggestion, Speed. But as said before, I'm tired playing "usual" supports that cannot go core late game. Sure, like playing heroes such as Enchantress, Marci, Sniper and even KEZ would fit, this Slark is much considered.
Oh shit I wanna learn this. I had actually smurf signing to my game. Flamed obviously slark as 4 lol I played pos3. Well he got the farm and kills obviously and we won. But playing 3 with slark felt comfortable even that we were both melee. I was dawnbreaker so we had alot of kill potential.
It's game understanding. Reaching 5k is literally just knowing all the basics and using them. Don't play shark 4 please. Understand the basics first. Unless ur above 5k im sorry then lol. Think about it like abstract art. Picasso started from the basics, then he got bored, so he made abstract art. You will see that abstract arts for the most part follows all 7 elements of art. The basics.
@Reilly13445 my problem is again dame old. I gain 500mmr when it hit. Last 4/5 games my sup fed 0/17-23. One was especially boring when I had 3/0 on our lane and at that point my sup was 0/5. 4 of these deaths were fully avoidable. Then people expect me to farm well when 50% of my laning time goes worrying how sup is doing and follow hes movements so I could be able to keep him alive. They do so damn stupid things with heroes who should not do. Go deward deeper on a lane withouth any mobility or stun. I accept now the fact tha I never get out of this rank. Im always out of luck what comes to draft.
I can’t believe this guy shares information to a bunch of 2-4k players and expects them to be able to pull off what immortal players can. He is just baiting them to fail. Kinda like watching Topson play support heroes mid and when you try it you ruin your game.
He is from north america and probably top 100 in europe but Im not sure, but he plays as a position 5 in NA team and they qualified to the tier 1 tournament and I am happy to see speed in tier 1 pro matches soon
A regular dudes that can't even hit and run like that or position themselves, not even mentioning macro... They will be beyond useless on the character, unless they are top 100 rank.
haha true, I also only picked it on unranked match. Slark is pretty good I also play it before this video, but don't expect the same level of impact like this video. Unless you play it that well it will fall off as the game progress
I don't like 9class as a source for new hereos to try, the thing that makes him really good is know his matchup, so that's bad if you have not been spamming dota and don't know the way around the meta Also this is distracting you from learning riki pos 4 which is what you should be doing.
Rain drops allows you to go even in lanes you should lose, if the 225 golf you spend allows you to get 5 last hits you wouldn't have normally, it's a good purchase Plus because they make trades more effective, it allows you to out sustain someone in lane so maybe you get them low enough for a kill, without being low enough you get killed Plus the mana regen can help take creep camps amping your farm more Raindrops in melee Vs ranged match ups is basically a must
:DDDD so stupid. I first see when some picked pos5 chen(very useless hero). Try it vs AM ( sure no ). I think win game with slark 4 +-10%, you can win lane vs melle heroes, but in 5x5 slark very useless.
I like that heroes are so well balanced at the moment that you actually can find alot of crazy sups like muerta and naga wich were surprising to me as a noob that how these even can work.
Speed, I just finished ruining my game's with Jungle Veno. Now I have to ruin games to re-learn slark pos 4, only to then continue ruining games once I learn how it works? Can we get like a "how to play phoenix" guide anytime soon? Our queue times have increased since offlaners have retired.
u say offlaners retired? in my 2k mmr games mid is near extinct as if exotic tigers. whenever i chose mid and find game its matched before 2 seconds!
@@HasiburRahim Yes. It is exactly the same with me. It was not so long when there were only mid players and mostly I saw mid or feed trends. Now i guess its over
Agree If i have all roles selected you get Support the Most then mid. Aafelane you. Early get never and Sometimes offlane but Not really often@@HasiburRahim
@@HasiburRahimat 2.5 k mmr in europe east if i select wll roles i always get pos 3 and pos 5
So this is where the jungle Veno originated. I reported the one in my game, ruined the lane and game.
YES, finaly after my games being ruined by veno jungle i need something new in my team. Slark pos 4 will suffice. Thanks speed for ruining my games
Let me introduce you to my friend Razor 4.
@@sh3nnanigans79 Well, well, well thats a good ruining idea too.
@@sh3nnanigans79 Honestly sounds better than Slark 4
@@legendarynoob4689 veno4 has been autowin with aba3. When were lv 3 enemy can't escape anymore just feed. They can even jungle just not all the time but after and between kills its good. Enemy start ti play more carefull so Im not focused at all.
I just won today a game, venom jungle on my team, greaves at 14, massive
Thanks for the free MMR speed, i had a Slark on the other team.
Everyone knows where to complain when the Slark pos4 appears on your pubs and ruin your game
Thanks for this guide in my low scrub archon rank, my opponent tried to use pos 4 slark. We easily won the match 😂
I'm an ancient player and everytime I try to trade with their pos 5, their carry joins in and they 2v1 me. Also at lvl 1, if they just hug eachother in lane, you literally can't trade properly and you get bullied out so fast, they get lvl 2 before you and gg. Your pos 3 will flame your ass.
oh no dont let archon watch this video
With my luck, I will likely have a lot of pos 4 slarks fail hard on my teams for the next month.
Yes, he is “broken” if you know wtf you are doing. But this is most heroes given the proper situation.
I will 100% have to hold back the urge to report role abuse for the first 25 minutes.
I got stomped as Timbersaw by a pos5 Slark with Orb of Corrosion rush. I just couldn't catch a break in the lane.
Had a guy abandoned in hero select over this pick, well done
I just tried this, it owns
Thanks for grief suggestion, Speed. But as said before, I'm tired playing "usual" supports that cannot go core late game. Sure, like playing heroes such as Enchantress, Marci, Sniper and even KEZ would fit, this Slark is much considered.
Speed you're the best! I tried using BB w/ facet 2 and it works! I lose mmr because of ur shit. I will now try this slark strat.
Thanks Speed. 😢
Speed makong a video on Slark 4?? This is how we know we need a new patch, people
Oh shit I wanna learn this. I had actually smurf signing to my game. Flamed obviously slark as 4 lol I played pos3. Well he got the farm and kills obviously and we won. But playing 3 with slark felt comfortable even that we were both melee. I was dawnbreaker so we had alot of kill potential.
It's game understanding. Reaching 5k is literally just knowing all the basics and using them. Don't play shark 4 please. Understand the basics first. Unless ur above 5k im sorry then lol.
Think about it like abstract art. Picasso started from the basics, then he got bored, so he made abstract art. You will see that abstract arts for the most part follows all 7 elements of art. The basics.
@Reilly13445 my problem is again dame old. I gain 500mmr when it hit. Last 4/5 games my sup fed 0/17-23. One was especially boring when I had 3/0 on our lane and at that point my sup was 0/5. 4 of these deaths were fully avoidable. Then people expect me to farm well when 50% of my laning time goes worrying how sup is doing and follow hes movements so I could be able to keep him alive. They do so damn stupid things with heroes who should not do. Go deward deeper on a lane withouth any mobility or stun. I accept now the fact tha I never get out of this rank. Im always out of luck what comes to draft.
Thanks❤
I needed a good excuse to try Dark Renegade 👿
I can’t believe this guy shares information to a bunch of 2-4k players and expects them to be able to pull off what immortal players can. He is just baiting them to fail. Kinda like watching Topson play support heroes mid and when you try it you ruin your game.
Day 35 asking for CM carry
what mmr is speed and what region does he play on?
He is from north america and probably top 100 in europe but Im not sure, but he plays as a position 5 in NA team and they qualified to the tier 1 tournament and I am happy to see speed in tier 1 pro matches soon
@@turuukaito6156 so currently he plays in eu? cus i play on na its just a bunch of peru win traders. How does he get good ping on eu?
@@turuukaito6156 so how does he get good ping on eu?
A regular dudes that can't even hit and run like that or position themselves, not even mentioning macro... They will be beyond useless on the character, unless they are top 100 rank.
I was actually playing it as pos3
States not a good pub strategy, states not good at team fighting. But broken? Sounds situationaly good if anything.
Bro. If i pick support slark. Ez 9 reports for me. Plzz stop . Sea server cant accept this 😅😅
haha true, I also only picked it on unranked match. Slark is pretty good I also play it before this video, but don't expect the same level of impact like this video. Unless you play it that well it will fall off as the game progress
Wdym? 5 core drafts are essential in sea
i am not rank 100 player here
I just found pos 5 slark and he's actually good! I'm lucky not reporting him immediately 😂
Way better would be to analize 9class gameplay instead of telling me to play slark 4 honestly
Slark, NS, and Zues will permanently stay on my ban lists. Vision jerks gotta go.
I don't like 9class as a source for new hereos to try, the thing that makes him really good is know his matchup, so that's bad if you have not been spamming dota and don't know the way around the meta
Also this is distracting you from learning riki pos 4 which is what you should be doing.
Just had a game against
1.np
2.spectre
3.tb
4.slark
5 veno..(jungle)
game ended in 21 mins.........
Maybe people will learn for what wards are, cause all wards that i saw slark deward in this game were 100%useless and feed
Use musics as well
Oh god, please no, you should've stopped at venom jungle. My pubs can't take it anymore
hide this video for members only sir, my rank will go mad for this
Chen is the best checks dotabuff and dota plus chen has a 43 winrate 😑
Pos 4 invoker
DuBu Weng the Chinese
It's time to spam Slark Pos 4 and then got reported😂
Did someone have problems with game lile just freze and shut down while match going,with pc is everthing fine
He made a Slark 4 video again? This is honestly the biggest cringe if your non 10k teamate does this.
thanks for free mmr to enemy
we are done xd
DO A CHEN REVIEW/GUIDE BRO. PEOPLE HERE NOT BELIEVING YOU!
I tried it, compared to a decent support it's total shit
U know why people dont buy rain drops ?? Cuz it has no follow up u cant build anything with it
It literally dissapears, how u rebuild after that
Tango's also have no follow up :) i kinda treat it like a consumable. I buy em almost every game and love em.
Rain drops allows you to go even in lanes you should lose, if the 225 golf you spend allows you to get 5 last hits you wouldn't have normally, it's a good purchase
Plus because they make trades more effective, it allows you to out sustain someone in lane so maybe you get them low enough for a kill, without being low enough you get killed
Plus the mana regen can help take creep camps amping your farm more
Raindrops in melee Vs ranged match ups is basically a must
what is the benefits of slark in support.?
why no peace?
can we please get normal videos lol?
good player - but he is TOXIC AF
:DDDD so stupid. I first see when some picked pos5 chen(very useless hero). Try it vs AM ( sure no ). I think win game with slark 4 +-10%, you can win lane vs melle heroes, but in 5x5 slark very useless.
Love these theorycraft vids, meta is so stale right now
I like that heroes are so well balanced at the moment that you actually can find alot of crazy sups like muerta and naga wich were surprising to me as a noob that how these even can work.
stop this
Yo speed guess my rank real quick, gameplay on my channel
no. stop encouraging this shit. youre legitimately ruining games at this point.
Trash hero as carry..ao lets ruined with pos 4
This shenanigan will never work in a pro match.
lol xtreme gaming already plays it and has won with it
As long as carry players are like this gyro… such shit will work easy…
eff u for uploading this video and ruining my games
these videos lately are so trash..
First
First view
9class is wintrading I just spectated 2 back to back games where it's a 5 stack throwing against another 5 stack. Match ID: 8115005748
Another wintrade ID: 8115025407
Another one: 8115044484