Could France FALL To Far Right? - w/. Cole Stangler

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • President Macron's decision to call elections seems suicidal: the far right could form the next French government. But has the left got its act together - or is it all too late, and what about a vicious media smear campaign against them?
    Joined by the brilliant journalist Cole Stangler, author of Paris Isn't Dead (saqibooks.com/..., and articles in outlets such as the New York Times (www.nytimes.co....
    Please like, subscribe, comment, share - and help us take on the right-wing media here: / owenjones84

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  • @OwenJonesTalks
    @OwenJonesTalks  3 місяці тому +30

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    • @Limestone.1
      @Limestone.1 3 місяці тому +7

      Two kids doing FaceTime from their Moms’ basements.

    • @VeniVidiVici456
      @VeniVidiVici456 3 місяці тому +5

      Perhaps the French electorate are coming to their senses. Illegal immigration is ruining western civilization.
      Viva Orban!
      Vive LE PEN!
      Viva Meloni in Italy

    • @jamesunsworth8468
      @jamesunsworth8468 3 місяці тому +2

      Because the left-wing media is perfect and does no wrong.

    • @TheSashapooch
      @TheSashapooch 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@FishAndChipsDude Technical correction: 'The city will fall to the enemy', as in be taken into the control of the enemy. The usage is the same here and is appropriate. The verb 'to lurch' in this context refers to an internal swing one way or the other within a political entity. Always check before you pontificate. BTW ready to take the litmus test for Humanity yet or still running from it?

    • @felixdim3977
      @felixdim3977 3 місяці тому

      @@Limestone.1So why are you watching these kids?
      I guess you don’t have anything better to do!

  • @Snizzle_Fizzle
    @Snizzle_Fizzle 3 місяці тому +63

    This is what happens when a population gets angry on mass. You cant abuse yiur own populations and not see this sort of stuff. I think we'll see this all over europe

    • @Rnankn
      @Rnankn 3 місяці тому

      Marx called it the revenge of the working class. Global finance plays with fire, and we all get burnt.

  • @doon6578
    @doon6578 3 місяці тому +57

    Cela fait des années qu'on le dit, même dans les sphères les plus militantes, mais peu encore aujourd'hui comprennent le danger pour la démocratie que sont des médias aux mains des puissances de l'argent. Et quand on dit parfois aux gens que les médias manipulent, certains répondent : "ah, mais je sais réfléchir, nous ne sommes pas stupides". Il ne s'agit ni d'un problème de réflexion, ni d'intelligence : juste connaître les mécanismes et les ficelles de celles et ceux qui sont derrière, ainsi que leurs buts premiers.

    • @Internetdev
      @Internetdev 3 місяці тому

      Il faut leurs conseiller quelques documentaires
      - La Manufacture du consentement - Chomsky
      où on apprend par exemple, comment les "relations publiques" qui ont été en grande partie inventées par un neveux par alliance de Freud , Edward Bernays, on été une fabrique de la manufacture du consentement:
      Ces manufactures ont , pour le bien, aidé le gouvernement américain a faire approuver l'entrée en guerre ds USA contre Hitler , mais pour le pire, aidé les marché du tabac a conquérir une clientèle féminine à laquelle a été vendu une sorte d'émancipation.
      Nous sommes en plein dasn cette air , plus subtile et en même temps grossière des fabrications aux consentement contre le propre intérêt des populations
      Exemple : "Le travailler plus pour gagner plus" de Nicolas Sarkozy, vendu comme une pseudo liberté, n'a jamais pu e être une , car au final c'est toujours le patron qui choisit le temps de travail . Et on le voit plus encore avec les salariés UBERisés auxquels a été vendu un mirage de liberté , alors qu'ils sont commandés à distances, qu'ils ne négocient pas le prix de leurs courses comme pouvait le faire un coursier avant face à un patron humain.
      La liberté vendu n'a été qu'un mirage couvert pas des propagandes pour un lobbies qui planque, en plus, ces bénéfices dans des pirates fiscaux.
      Fabrice Arfi, l'un des journaliste les plus reconnu en France sur l'importance des affaires qu'il publie (dont les 400 000 000 € offert par Sarkozy au propagandiste Bernard Tapie en échange de son silence et de son retournement en 2007 et ses propagande en 2006) le dit souvent ainsi - "Suivre la trace de l'argent".
      Ce qui pourrait aussi concerner Macron et sa grosse commission offert par Peter Brabeck (Nestlé) à ce pseudo "Mozart de la Finance"

    • @Jupiterloobncj
      @Jupiterloobncj 3 місяці тому +2

      tout est vrai, mais il y a encore des choses essentielles dans la vie : l'attitude, la demande. nous, nos jeunes générations, devrions mettre cela en avant et ne pas reculer.

  • @laurenth7187
    @laurenth7187 3 місяці тому +84

    Emmanuel Todd said : La France n'existe pas. In every sens, cultural, political economical. And we lost our soul by not intervening in Gaza and planning Olympic Games, which is indifference, and indifference is worse than Evil.

    • @Internetdev
      @Internetdev 3 місяці тому

      Regardez "les nouveaux chiens de garde" inspiré de l'auteur Paul Nizan dont Emmanuel Todd est petit-fils par sa mère.
      C'est un point d'entrée avec Chomsky , Bourdieux et le realisateur Pierre Carles pour comprendre que le premier des problèmes avant tous les autres et l'information.
      Dans le cas de Gaza (perso j'ai été de me remettre à l'Anglais pour avoir d'autres points de vu , même juifs plus pertinents et plus féroces qu'en France venant même principalement de Juifs comme Norman Finkelstein , Chomsky, Miko Peled - Fils d'un des 6 généraux de la guerre des 6 jours)
      En réalité ca fait longtemps que je sais , et grace à Chomskt, Lordon, Naomie Klen, Assange que les propagandes sont mondiales et parfois même coordonnées mais le conflit Israëlo-palestiniens ou les coups d'état en Amérique du sud et centrale ou en Afriques, démontre que ce mal des propagandes dansl les journaux sont mondialisées, parfois plaquées sur les mêmes stroy-Telling (comme le parallèles des diffamations médiatiques contre les mobilisations des universités - en France, en Angleterre et aux USA)
      Les mêmes prétextes pour virer des journalistes questionnant un peu trop les communicants israéliens (Medhi Hassane d'MSNBC / Mohamed Kaci / et d'autres)

    • @VaucluseVanguard
      @VaucluseVanguard 3 місяці тому +4

      What has Gaza got to do with the French or the UK?

    • @Internetdev
      @Internetdev 3 місяці тому +10

      @@VaucluseVanguard
      1 - Balfour
      2 - Vente d'armes
      3 - Attente que l'Afrique du Sud bouge pour enfin commencer à voir qu'il y avait de gros problème psychiatriques chez Netanyahou.
      4 - Pays qui se dit "Des Droits de l'Homme"
      5
      6
      etc....

    • @domgould5113
      @domgould5113 3 місяці тому

      Eh wai billout.

    • @zaf4155
      @zaf4155 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Internetdev
      Alors une petite correction
      La France est le pays de la Déclaration des Droits de l'Homme.
      Elle n'a jamais été le pays des Droits de l'Homme.
      Et c'est bien regretable.

  • @jameslindsay5889
    @jameslindsay5889 3 місяці тому +19

    Lil napoleon is a clown. May as well move slightly more right. That's what everyone is doing, including Labour.

  • @1848revolt
    @1848revolt 3 місяці тому +39

    Its inevitable. The center has done zero for the people.

  • @mabsfreeman1187
    @mabsfreeman1187 3 місяці тому +101

    Europe really hasn't learnt from its history. The rise of the right wing grifter is the culmination of the idiocracy - AGAIN!

    • @braislorenzo8770
      @braislorenzo8770 3 місяці тому +1

      no, is just traditional nationalism, the left is who doesnt learn. And, as always, thoso who won the war wrote the history...

    • @laurenth7187
      @laurenth7187 3 місяці тому +8

      As a French allow me to say that Israel didn't learn a dim of it's history, and it's the same story in France, it's not about learning anything : We learned our history over millions of years until it became hardwired ! Xenophobia is necessary, and anyone who isn't, died. For Example all the folks exterminated in the USA like the Indians. The Indians where nice people, and they died. That's the history everyone has learned.

    • @TheSashapooch
      @TheSashapooch 3 місяці тому

      Yes, the advance of grifters like Farage spewing faux populism, when he is in it ONLY for himself proves that the lesson is never learned. Throw some R word chum in the water and watch the feeding frenzy of the gullible.

    • @shadowsonicsilver6
      @shadowsonicsilver6 3 місяці тому

      @@laurenth7187No.
      Indigenous People in North and South America were not friendly.
      There are many recorded instances of conflicts between Indigenous Populations, and Colonizers.
      Stop pushing this revisionist history to justify horrible behaviors
      Second: You and I both know calling ANY Indigenous People anywhere around the world “Indians” is extremely offensive to Indigenous people and people from India.

    • @jellybean8167
      @jellybean8167 3 місяці тому

      oh but mainland europe has learnt from its history, it is probably your country that is going backwards not ours!

  • @fabulously695
    @fabulously695 3 місяці тому +26

    I made sure to vote! As an expat, I could vote online starting yesterday! If you're a French expat and see this message before the 27th, please know, you can vote online! Call your consulat ASAP!

    • @titranex
      @titranex 3 місяці тому +2

      And the cherry on the cake, vote RN

  • @dalek604
    @dalek604 3 місяці тому +14

    As for the horseshoe theory, it's called that because you have to be kicked in the head by a horse to believe it.

    • @daronnedemastu2248
      @daronnedemastu2248 3 місяці тому +1

      It’s more the fish hook theory

    • @iordanneDiogeneslucas
      @iordanneDiogeneslucas 3 місяці тому

      Extremists on either side have more in common with each other than with the centre, how is that controversial?

  • @joelharris4399
    @joelharris4399 3 місяці тому +19

    Well, it happened to Germany, some time back in the day. Ergo, oui!

    • @hakanozaslan9571
      @hakanozaslan9571 3 місяці тому

      and unfortunatly many German's haven't learned from this either. ESPECIALLY the ones from the eastern part of the country, who have been living under two dictatorships and now created this hostile environment for anyone thats not white...

    • @Defenderofthefaith4christ
      @Defenderofthefaith4christ 3 місяці тому

      @@hakanozaslan9571 How come the Germans do not like getting stab bed and be aten to de*th on a weekly basis by some peas full ones….?? 🤔

  • @GeorginaHaycock
    @GeorginaHaycock 3 місяці тому +14

    Is the French government also controlled by Israel?

    • @claudemadrid4950
      @claudemadrid4950 3 місяці тому +9

      Yes.

    • @VaucluseVanguard
      @VaucluseVanguard 3 місяці тому +1

      No Mr Himmler, it’s not.

    • @claudemadrid4950
      @claudemadrid4950 3 місяці тому

      Important thing to know... Vaucluse is one of the craddle of far-right in France... so it’s no surprise that they know Himmler well and call him "Mr".

  • @SimonLee-y1j
    @SimonLee-y1j 3 місяці тому +39

    Light-weight political leaders, such as Macron and Starmer are a gift to the far right. We live in dangerous times.

    • @PaulHirst-og4uk
      @PaulHirst-og4uk 3 місяці тому +1

      I would love it if you explained just why we live in dangerous times.
      I will bet you right now that you can't answer my question with any intelligence.
      I'll give you a week to reply.

  • @otho69AD
    @otho69AD 3 місяці тому +28

    Commenting for the algorithm before all the rightoids infest the comments section

    • @braislorenzo8770
      @braislorenzo8770 3 місяці тому +3

      is the people who speaks

    • @daronnedemastu2248
      @daronnedemastu2248 3 місяці тому

      @@braislorenzo8770they is some geostrategic bot in the internet from a certain war country

  • @anabnoor1374
    @anabnoor1374 3 місяці тому +16

    Well done owen Jones👍👋🤗

  • @Shira1976
    @Shira1976 3 місяці тому +71

    And here we are again, 100 years later, we learnt nothing as humanity😭

    • @dr.zoidberg8666
      @dr.zoidberg8666 3 місяці тому

      The function of F***ism is to protect capitalism in times of vulnerability & dissatisfaction. It crushes any potential challenge to capitalism & then fades away, returning the normal order.
      It is a cycle that will persist as long as capitalism does.

    • @Humanbeing-sb7vp
      @Humanbeing-sb7vp 3 місяці тому +4

      We pay for our sins - we will not free until Palestine is not free.

    • @IsraeldoublestandardsIsraeldou
      @IsraeldoublestandardsIsraeldou 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Humanbeing-sb7vp i don't know what you mean, but in my religion calamities wipe out sins but that doesn't mean we should genocide others and claim it's because we are paying for the sins of whoever was there before we were born

    • @zenster1097
      @zenster1097 3 місяці тому

      Yeah. YOU haven't.

    • @Humanbeing-sb7vp
      @Humanbeing-sb7vp 3 місяці тому

      @@zenster1097 see and tell the truth bring justice, but before it’s hurt

  • @Kan09138
    @Kan09138 3 місяці тому +9

    Macrons plans have back fired.

  • @laurensargent9471
    @laurensargent9471 3 місяці тому +55

    Please let’s not do the 1930s again.

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 3 місяці тому +2

      @@FishAndChipsDude lol, what?

    • @budselectgoesoff
      @budselectgoesoff 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@adrien5834he meant the idf

    • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
      @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 3 місяці тому +9

      ​@@FishAndChipsDudeIsrael never had any morality.

    • @JulieLevinge
      @JulieLevinge 3 місяці тому +1

      @@adrien5834He’s talking about the Greek delicacy humous!🤤

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 3 місяці тому +2

      @@JulieLevinge As far as I know, it's Lebanese. Also, what's the connection with the 1930s?

  • @kardy12
    @kardy12 3 місяці тому +4

    This could easily play out in the UK in the next election in 5 years’ time. The Tories as a party are unlikely to recover in a very long time, and Starmer’s Labour Party is just a continuation of Tory economic policies that have impoverished millions. That means that just like in France, there won’t be a “centrist” alternative for failed economic policies (LibDems do not really represent much of a change either), and the only place people can go to protest will probably be Reform.
    And the hostility to the left from the media establishment is driven by the fact that the owners represent neoliberal interests. If they have to choose between supporting a left or right wing protest vote, given the far right for all it’s populism tends to support the interests of capital they will swallow their dislike of the far rights populism and support it.

  • @tshawtshi3040
    @tshawtshi3040 3 місяці тому +2

    Melanchon, Melanchon, Melanchon ❤

  • @acecleaning8317
    @acecleaning8317 3 місяці тому +3

    There is no chance that the far right will win a majority of seats in the assembly neither will the coalition of the left- we will end up with a big mess for one year ( as the president can’t dissolve the assembly for one year). The prime minister doesn’t have to come from the party with the most seats, the best option would be a compromise PM to handle day to day french affairs.its not the first time the president has not a PM from his party

  • @yelbuck
    @yelbuck 3 місяці тому +5

    Shouldn't they be more concerned about falling to humans? France 'fell' many decades ago. The real question is how have they lasted this long.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      France will still be here long after you passed, buddy :)

    • @MrEssedis
      @MrEssedis 2 місяці тому

      ​@@assassindelasaucisse.4039 we'll see

  • @kaizen960
    @kaizen960 3 місяці тому +2

    Owen Jones is one of the best independent journalist in the world.
    F mainstream media!

  • @MichaelMcNulty-n9x
    @MichaelMcNulty-n9x 3 місяці тому +8

    If that happened in England half of the English football team you would lose over night.
    The NHS is full of immigrates who had children in England how does that work.
    My parents came form Ireland like thousands & thousands to build up the UK how does that work too.
    We are going backwards.

  • @lunifikateur6524
    @lunifikateur6524 3 місяці тому +4

    Merci pour vos analyses très justes sur la situation actuelle en France.✌

  • @No1floatsting
    @No1floatsting 3 місяці тому +3

    If France 🇫🇷 goes "far right" that "flava" will finally match its foreign policy...

  • @fuckbankers
    @fuckbankers 3 місяці тому +3

    Wouldn't be the first time.

  • @aliwatson9860
    @aliwatson9860 3 місяці тому +12

    I live in Toulouse and it is very depressing to read and listen to the rhetoric

    • @geekdesprairies
      @geekdesprairies 3 місяці тому

      La même. Militer peut aider à se sentir moins impuissant·e !

    • @Internetdev
      @Internetdev 3 місяці тому

      @@geekdesprairies
      Vous serez toujours impuissant. Pas de votre fait mais du fait des manipulations de la masse.
      La gauche fait face à des accusations massives infondées.
      Mais si répéter mile fois un mensonge ("comme le Front populaire est antisémite") reste un mensonge, il infiltre dans la tête des gens les moins informés un petit venin de la peur de se tromper, du doute (si tout le monde le dit , c'est peut-être vrai ?)
      C'est comme ça que sont manipulées toutes les elections
      Melenchon pourra prouver mille fois qu'il n'est pas anti-sémite, face à des écrans télé qui se permettent , même sur le service publique, de l'entacher d'une telle faute, de façon récurrente massive et continue (même quand personne de ses détracteurs ne portera plaintes parce qu'ils savent qu'il perdront comme il s ont perdu dans leurs qualification du Front Populaire à l'Extrême gauche devant le conseil d'Etat) fera toujours son oeuvre propagandiste.
      ils ont fait la même chose en Allemagne en diffament Varoufakis et le recteur de l'université de Glasgow d'antisémitisme sans la moindre miette de preuve autre que l'allégation fausse suivante:
      - "critiquer le gouvernement israélien == antisémitisme"

  • @nejlaalagic7165
    @nejlaalagic7165 3 місяці тому +3

    And where is France today? Left? 😂😂😂 the right question is will France become more right my dear Owen.

    • @hazelwray4184
      @hazelwray4184 3 місяці тому +2

      Macron is not "left"
      I presume you're saying he is, despite the question mark.

    • @nejlaalagic7165
      @nejlaalagic7165 3 місяці тому

      @@hazelwray4184 you did not get my comment. The video is called "will France move right" that implicates that France is left or in the middle today which it os NOT.

    • @Internetdev
      @Internetdev 3 місяці тому

      La France ??
      Non, l'oligarchie et les medias de masse, sont de droite et les résultat des dividendes le montre autant qu'il n'y a pas de "ruissellement" parce que l'économie n'a jamais été une science physique mais une sorte d’algorithme qui peu , soit détecter des cellules cancéreuses, soit filller le COVID à la planète entière par ces bugs.
      Le problème actuel de l’algorithme français c'est qu'il a mis, à la tête d'un état, un type, qui a été corrompu pour que l’algorithme (les lois) servent ceux qui ce le sont payé d'avance et ont négocier des passations.
      Pour que ces arnaques "électorales" foncionent, l'entourage de Macron n'a rien trouvé de mieux que d'assuré la création d'un entonnoir posé devant les électeurs: Faire monter le repoussoir RN (extrême droite) par les médias, pour que la finale obligent même les électeurs de gauche à voter pour le moins à droite.
      C'est ce qu'il se passe aussi en Angleterre contre Corbyn et aux USA contre Sanders.

    • @hayleyanna2625
      @hayleyanna2625 3 місяці тому

      At the moment with Macron still in power they are in the middle which is the problem with the left at the moment. There is no real progressive socialist party. Unfortunately France will probably vote the far right in. Unfortunately they offer very little. It's all wrapped up in racist rhetoric and very little substance. We must educate ourselves politically. The problem is the system which is structured so big corporations avoid paying significant taxes and billionaires avoid paying altogether. I'm not sure what your problem is with the title.

  • @anabnoor1374
    @anabnoor1374 3 місяці тому +3

    Thank you owen Jones

  • @dine9244
    @dine9244 3 місяці тому +22

    Votez Nouveau Front Populaire 🎉❤

    • @VaucluseVanguard
      @VaucluseVanguard 3 місяці тому

      Vive La Gulag, vive La KGB!

    • @titranex
      @titranex 3 місяці тому

      Rêve

    • @dine9244
      @dine9244 3 місяці тому +4

      @@titranexje parle pas aux racistes / fachos ciao

    • @jonmould2946
      @jonmould2946 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dine9244You are the right type we should be letting in😊Bonne!

    • @jonmould2946
      @jonmould2946 3 місяці тому

      ​@@VaucluseVanguardwho's great idea was it to open the borders?

  • @FosaEvbomwan
    @FosaEvbomwan 3 місяці тому

    They say far right like they are not people's choice, what of the far left? maybe Owen should talk about the dangerous views of some of the candidates of the far left.dont hold your breath

  • @BoloSparks
    @BoloSparks 3 місяці тому +1

    I cant see france going right. I see the place in flames first, and it would be the french setting it alight. Does anyone remmeber their history?

  • @sabahetful
    @sabahetful 3 місяці тому +1

    Could you ask why Sunak and Macron have made this move? Why exit stage left simultaneously, from two men who have spent their lives working towards this role? The bigger question is, what do these two impromptu elections have in common? Who is really prompting it, and why?

  • @poplife123
    @poplife123 3 місяці тому +2

    I think its only a matter of time

  • @albarrany-ny2ol
    @albarrany-ny2ol 3 місяці тому +1

    The French far right was introduced by Miiterrand, promoted by Sarkozy and led by Macron.

  • @doctortoomuch
    @doctortoomuch 3 місяці тому +1

    it will be the first domino and at least half eu will follow and then its just a matter of time until eu fascists will fight each other.

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 3 місяці тому +4

    "L'État, c'est moi"

  • @Canonymousness
    @Canonymousness 2 місяці тому

    Cole looks truly devastated by the situation. I believe the sincerity of every word he says.

  • @livetoalove
    @livetoalove 3 місяці тому +1

    appreciate you for organizing this interview, Owen. appreciate Cole Stangler's important words.

  • @yanivush87
    @yanivush87 3 місяці тому +10

    Far left is having meltdown

    • @ComradeCatpurrnicus
      @ComradeCatpurrnicus 3 місяці тому +4

      Describe what "far left" means to you...

    • @yanivush87
      @yanivush87 3 місяці тому +6

      @@ComradeCatpurrnicus communists who cooperate with jihadists to destroy the west societies

    • @fidomusic
      @fidomusic 3 місяці тому +1

      Eh? The "far left" did well, coming not far behind NR and beating Macron. 28% if I remember rightly - better than expected.

  • @lestrem11
    @lestrem11 3 місяці тому +5

    They are having elections , child. It’s allowed.👍

  • @antoinemozart243
    @antoinemozart243 3 місяці тому

    I am french and Cole's analysis is brilliant and spot on.

  • @masc2855
    @masc2855 3 місяці тому +1

    Very very worrying

  • @fundidoarrojo269
    @fundidoarrojo269 3 місяці тому +6

    I hope the Nouveau Front Populaire wins on the second round, otherwise I'd prefer to try luck fighting Le Pen than continue fighting Macron.

    • @Minimmalmythicist
      @Minimmalmythicist 3 місяці тому +5

      @@ignaciom8906 I agree, if people think Macron is bad, Le Pen is a whole new level of awfulness

  • @roshellboudreaux6263
    @roshellboudreaux6263 3 місяці тому +1

    Is that not what you have been pushing for?

  • @Luke77h
    @Luke77h 3 місяці тому +4

    French president likes guys like you, Owen Jones! His also a putty pusher!

  • @DeanThompson-e3h
    @DeanThompson-e3h 3 місяці тому +4

    She is no more radical than Owen jones 😮

  • @katherinecollins4685
    @katherinecollins4685 2 місяці тому

    Very informative

  • @jameelaahmed5239
    @jameelaahmed5239 3 місяці тому +2

    💯

  • @osheaeimear83
    @osheaeimear83 3 місяці тому +1

    Europe will Europe

  • @andrewlesterthomas5581
    @andrewlesterthomas5581 3 місяці тому +6

    How about looking at the far left 'YOU' as being the cause!

  • @jeanpierrefouchard421
    @jeanpierrefouchard421 3 місяці тому +1

    Capitalism prefers fachisme vs real democracy

    • @Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
      @Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 2 місяці тому

      Wrong. They are the polar opposite and Fas cism strictly opposed Capitalism.

  • @johnvaccaro7489
    @johnvaccaro7489 3 місяці тому +2

    I hope France do go right wing don’t you agree

  • @stephencalder1583
    @stephencalder1583 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Owen & Cole xx

  • @saqibsiddiqui9578
    @saqibsiddiqui9578 3 місяці тому +5

    Anyone still discussing left/right in Western democracies is a con or extremely naive. At the leadership level, it is right on one hand and a right playing left (and center) on the other.

    • @fundidoarrojo269
      @fundidoarrojo269 3 місяці тому +2

      There's life outside the USA.

    • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
      @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 3 місяці тому

      But no morality anywhere.

    • @libran58
      @libran58 3 місяці тому +1

      True, but this false dialectic is known and the language of democratic politics, if it breaks down, it can break down to the fascists or not.

  • @ssehe2007
    @ssehe2007 3 місяці тому +8

    YES! My French friends are now far right. Been moving there for ten years now.

  • @zeesalameh
    @zeesalameh 3 місяці тому

    Owen, please do a video (if you haven’t already) on Melanie Phillips and the absolute nonsense she continually spreads.

  • @art-of-techno
    @art-of-techno 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm french. The far right wants to change our values liberté, égalité, fraternité to the ultra conservative Vichy values of travail, famille, patrie... (work, family, country)

    • @zaf4155
      @zaf4155 3 місяці тому +1

      Macron already did.
      It is even in one of his pompous speech.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      @@zaf4155 Yeah, Macron is far right in disguise.

  • @AndrewAwad-l9j
    @AndrewAwad-l9j 3 місяці тому

    'scourge of islamo leftism' lol sounds like a mtg trading card!

  • @GrinGillis
    @GrinGillis 3 місяці тому +6

    London 😀 London fell to heathens long ago.

  • @greedyyawgoo5635
    @greedyyawgoo5635 3 місяці тому +2

    😅😅😅😅Sorry “Free Palestine” Cult, not this time…

  • @FuadMohamed-k7o
    @FuadMohamed-k7o 3 місяці тому +4

    The World will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch without doing anything.

    • @claudemadrid4950
      @claudemadrid4950 3 місяці тому +1

      What a silly sentence ! The world will be destroyed by the ones who are already destroying it without any regard to the ones who are not destroying it but can’t do anything to stop the ones who have the power and are actually destroying the world.

    • @danielthomas4082
      @danielthomas4082 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes that is a very stupid sentence. The world will be destroyed by those who do evil, and those who watch without doing anything are complicit.

    • @claudemadrid4950
      @claudemadrid4950 3 місяці тому

      @@danielthomas4082 It’s much better because the ones who are destroying the world are somewhat guilty, I think.

  • @jamesledger2742
    @jamesledger2742 3 місяці тому

    It’s in man’s instinct to destroy himself

  • @michaelbarnes3212
    @michaelbarnes3212 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant piece of work yet again Owen. Disturbing this far right stuff though mate

    • @mr.thegreat557
      @mr.thegreat557 3 місяці тому +3

      Is it? What exactly have the far left done for France because it’s an ultra violent mess?
      Look forward to your answer.

  • @stefrost4029
    @stefrost4029 3 місяці тому

    Cole is a bit bloody beautiful... 😇

  • @ChrisPatrick-q6k
    @ChrisPatrick-q6k 3 місяці тому

    I'm on Owens side here.

  • @tshawtshi3040
    @tshawtshi3040 3 місяці тому

    No there is no birthrights in France. The f is he talking about.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      There is.

    • @tshawtshi3040
      @tshawtshi3040 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 no birthrights. You have to be born in France and live for 13 years to get nationality. Hardly birthright

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      @@tshawtshi3040 So a right given at birth. AKA a birthright...

    • @tshawtshi3040
      @tshawtshi3040 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 I see ur point but my understanding of birthright is you get the nationality at birth if you are born in that country

  • @martindimmock4820
    @martindimmock4820 3 місяці тому +4

    Let's hope so

  • @Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
    @Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 2 місяці тому

    There is no Far-Right in France though.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому +1

      Username not checking out.

    • @Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
      @Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 : People having no clue what Far-Right even means, checks out.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. FN/RN is far right, no matter how much it hurts your feeling.

    • @Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
      @Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 : Again, they have nothing to do with Far-Right of any kind, and there is no Far-Right movement in mainstream European politics to begin with.

  • @sam1503cd
    @sam1503cd 3 місяці тому

    Loved the interview

  • @Andy-kj1rc
    @Andy-kj1rc 3 місяці тому +8

    Hopefully go le pen

  • @domgould5113
    @domgould5113 3 місяці тому

    Vive la evolution,,Vive la Chance!!

  • @IainFrame
    @IainFrame 3 місяці тому +10

    "Far right" as if they're actual neo-fascists 🤣

    • @ianskelly6911
      @ianskelly6911 3 місяці тому +7

      I agree. Labelling everyone far right cheapens the term and people become fed up of being talked down to so they start to fight back and this is why France / Netherlands /germany is likely to vote nationalist .

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 3 місяці тому +1

      Very true, they're neo-liberal grifters just like Macron, with a coat of racist paint.

    • @benfisher1376
      @benfisher1376 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ianskelly6911Possibly Britain too quite soon.

    • @ianskelly6911
      @ianskelly6911 3 місяці тому

      Quite possibly

    • @bramobin
      @bramobin 3 місяці тому +3

      they are, they've just followed a policy of looking more moderate to be more electable. But their ideas are still there, the people are still there. If they get absolute majority, they will show who they truely are.

  • @braislorenzo8770
    @braislorenzo8770 3 місяці тому +17

    We have to stop masive migrationm, we have to defend our people first

    • @shortclip9382
      @shortclip9382 3 місяці тому +1

      Stop meddling in other countries,No one will migrate to your country

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 3 місяці тому

      Oded Yinon Plan 1982
      _"We will deceive the Americans after we have deceived all the rest"_

    • @TheSashapooch
      @TheSashapooch 3 місяці тому +18

      Do something about existential climate change then, Lorenzo, and stop fomenting wars in the Global South and Middle East. If you don't, you ain't seen nothing yet.

    • @quatreraberbawinner2628
      @quatreraberbawinner2628 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@TheSashapoochare you using immigration as a threat? Wow that's really telling

    • @farazvfx
      @farazvfx 3 місяці тому +1

      stop bombing their countries then

  • @yvonneparmenter9251
    @yvonneparmenter9251 3 місяці тому

    Votez Nouveau Front Populaire

  • @oliverorchard2296
    @oliverorchard2296 3 місяці тому +4

    Vote reform the socialist dystopia is over.

  • @adairjanney7109
    @adairjanney7109 3 місяці тому +6

    france NEEDS some far right, less it demographically disappears, if it doesnt already.

    • @adrien5834
      @adrien5834 3 місяці тому +1

      Nah.

    • @gtrdxz
      @gtrdxz 3 місяці тому +1

      Access to European majority nations is not a human right.

    • @Rnankn
      @Rnankn 3 місяці тому

      France is a civic nation, not an ethnic nation. It exists as long as its institutions endure. For example, the Roman Empire did not vanish because of demographic change, after all the Empire was built by extending citizenship to others. Rome vanished because its institutions failed to adapt to changing circumstances. When being Roman, or French, becomes elite and anachronistic, as the far right propose, nobody will show up to defend the institutions which make it real.

  • @KBo-wd7lw
    @KBo-wd7lw 3 місяці тому

    👍👍

  • @tobytilsed5333
    @tobytilsed5333 3 місяці тому +8

    I don't think it's an accurate nomenclature to describe the supporters of these rising parties "far right" when they are representing a typical conservative or even moderate perspective of 30-40 years ago

    • @kko5779
      @kko5779 3 місяці тому

      The difference is that those people were actual conservatives but current far right is a reactionary movement with malicious and violent intents

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      More like 80 years ago. Skulls on caps included.

    • @tobytilsed5333
      @tobytilsed5333 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 I'm waiting...come at me

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      @@tobytilsed5333 Lol, you have issues...

    • @tobytilsed5333
      @tobytilsed5333 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 ad hominem...another tactic to delegitimise and avoid nuance
      For someone that's anti dehumanisation it's interesting that that's your go to move

  • @kingofcards9516
    @kingofcards9516 3 місяці тому +2

    Let's hope so.

  • @grillerg
    @grillerg 3 місяці тому +1

    "Far right" lol
    Well done France 🇫🇷

  • @IndependenceCityMotoring
    @IndependenceCityMotoring 3 місяці тому +12

    "Far right" is always part of your vocabulary but NEVER "far left". You have ZERO credibility other than with the Palestine issue. Signed, a political independent.

    • @W0olf938
      @W0olf938 3 місяці тому +6

      Tell me where the far left are!!

    • @eman67rp
      @eman67rp 3 місяці тому

      Because far right has always caused the most problems Far right gave US Hitler,Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.

    • @NitwitsWorld
      @NitwitsWorld 3 місяці тому

      @@W0olf938hiding with their boyfriends on the far right 😂

    • @astroidexadam5976
      @astroidexadam5976 3 місяці тому +5

      Name a country in Europe that has the far-left as the sole governing party or, has more than 50 seats in a lower house parliament

    • @fundidoarrojo269
      @fundidoarrojo269 3 місяці тому

      @FullOfSh¡tDude projection 101

  • @RightWingAlliance
    @RightWingAlliance 3 місяці тому +15

    I hope so...every country should fall to the Far Right...

    • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
      @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 3 місяці тому

      Again? That's what brought Hitler to power. Congratulations on your smarts.

  • @alanstech3724
    @alanstech3724 3 місяці тому +15

    Yeah. Who would've thought the silent majority are weary of unlimited protest and illegal immigrants

    • @fundidoarrojo269
      @fundidoarrojo269 3 місяці тому +3

      🥱

    • @gtrdxz
      @gtrdxz 3 місяці тому +3

      Access to European majority nations is not a human right.

    • @pietjan3314
      @pietjan3314 3 місяці тому

      @@gtrdxzit should be

  • @NitwitsWorld
    @NitwitsWorld 3 місяці тому +1

    France in a nutshell 😂

  • @aboucard93
    @aboucard93 3 місяці тому +4

    I feel like he was black mailed and that's why he dissolved the government.

    • @zinghao131
      @zinghao131 3 місяці тому +4

      A couple of my French friends say that he's banking on all the ones that find politics boring and didn't vote last time. It appears that in France there's always a higher turn out when s**t hits the fan, like the second rounds of presidential elections, usually. That's not exactly the most promising outlook, but I can see where they're coming from.

  • @thormidthagahast8914
    @thormidthagahast8914 3 місяці тому +9

    You mean saved by the far right.

  • @thelordofgifts5343
    @thelordofgifts5343 3 місяці тому +1

    Marine le pen is center left

  • @quatreraberbawinner2628
    @quatreraberbawinner2628 3 місяці тому +9

    I can't remember who said it, but you can have the social welfare system or mass immigration, you can't have both

    • @ThePsycoDolphin
      @ThePsycoDolphin 3 місяці тому

      Remind me again when Windrush happened? Remind where the welfare state was being forged?
      Funding your services is a matter of wealth redistribution, not people.
      Try againvdumb dumb

    • @4R53Hole
      @4R53Hole 3 місяці тому +8

      Was it someone stupid? Plenty of money about, it's just that a few ultra-rich have most of it.

    • @lyndah5374
      @lyndah5374 3 місяці тому

      It's funny, because in the 60's , France was very eager to bring mass migration , and it contributed to the development of the French economy. Now, 60 years later all this is forgotten, the descendants of the "white " immigrants (polish, Italians, Portuguese) are considered as "fully French "; however the descendants of the "non-white" immigrants are still considered as foreigners. Unfortunately this unfair treatment and racist biais will always bring more hate, more violence. Now, We can also see a lot of french young professionals (from northnafrican descend) leave France due to this unfair treatment.

    • @SpirosPagiatakis
      @SpirosPagiatakis 3 місяці тому +1

      @@4R53Hole What you don't understand is that the person you replied to loves and looks up to the ultra-rich. Don't ask me why. I am still trying to figure out this insanity.

  • @Hide_and_silk
    @Hide_and_silk 3 місяці тому +7

    We moved to France a few years ago. If Le Pen wins we leave. We are white Christian, highly educated and well off but we won't stay in a blatantly racist country.

    • @frankshailes3205
      @frankshailes3205 3 місяці тому +1

      Did you miss DeGaulle?

    • @bramobin
      @bramobin 3 місяці тому +4

      i'm french and i understand you. The environment is getting ever more hostile and bigotted. I want to leave too if it happens.

    • @user-bo6xk8ws7e
      @user-bo6xk8ws7e 3 місяці тому +2

      So go out mister!! Thank you🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵

  • @laurenth7187
    @laurenth7187 3 місяці тому +7

    By the Wait, the Brexit happened for the same reason as we vote far-right : you didn't want immigration, think about it.

    • @xavierh658
      @xavierh658 3 місяці тому +10

      And look how it didn't change a thing about immigration...

    • @W0olf938
      @W0olf938 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@xavierh658 it was never about immigration for tories

    • @fundidoarrojo269
      @fundidoarrojo269 3 місяці тому +7

      Yeah, Brexit has worked extremely well for the average Britt. 😂

    • @stewie7338
      @stewie7338 3 місяці тому +1

      @@xavierh658 Hi - but isn't that the point? People engaged in the democratic process in order to affect a new policy and then got their votes ignored and called far right and fascists by people that won't listen to democratic will. Who are the fascists?

    • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
      @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 3 місяці тому

      A little education is a dangerous thing...

  • @jeaniebottle6758
    @jeaniebottle6758 3 місяці тому +6

    Long live "Liberty, Equality & Fraternity" ❤🤍💙

    • @frankshailes3205
      @frankshailes3205 3 місяці тому +1

      That's been dead since 1940.

    • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
      @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 3 місяці тому

      ​@@frankshailes3205Dead since 1809 when Tom died.

    • @bramobin
      @bramobin 3 місяці тому

      :'(

    • @zaf4155
      @zaf4155 3 місяці тому

      @@frankshailes3205 That is the beauty of the full motto
      Liberté égalité fraternité ou la mort.

  • @galegordan
    @galegordan 3 місяці тому +12

    Far right? Are you serious? Thought you have someting in your head

    • @fundidoarrojo269
      @fundidoarrojo269 3 місяці тому +2

      Apparently you don't

    • @bramobin
      @bramobin 3 місяці тому +1

      They are factually far-right

    • @A123-u7z
      @A123-u7z 3 місяці тому

      ​@@bramobinThey are RIGHT.

  • @mr.thegreat557
    @mr.thegreat557 3 місяці тому +4

    Well the far left haven’t done France or Europe any favours. So maybe it’s time to give normal people... err.. I mean the far right a go. 👍🏻

    • @gjthomas9770
      @gjthomas9770 3 місяці тому +1

      The XL Bully dog is being destroyed by the far left 😪

    • @zaf4155
      @zaf4155 3 місяці тому

      Far right vs Left
      Shoah vs Social wellfare
      Tough choice indeed

    • @fidomusic
      @fidomusic 3 місяці тому

      The far left has never been in power.

  • @Jamie-qt5yo
    @Jamie-qt5yo 3 місяці тому +3

    Better than far wrong.

  • @DudeX2004
    @DudeX2004 3 місяці тому +6

    Wow no Israel bashing today . Well done

    • @PeaceForIsrael122
      @PeaceForIsrael122 3 місяці тому +2

      Look at the video stats/ views: no „Israel“, no reach. Next OJ video will be about Israel again, for sure. The word „Israel“ alone pays all his bills.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      @@PeaceForIsrael122 Peace for Palestine :)

    • @PeaceForIsrael122
      @PeaceForIsrael122 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 For 2000 yrs until 1948 „Palestine“ was the ANCIENT name for JEVVISH holiland. So yes, „Peace for Palestine 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱“= „Peace for Israel 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱“.

    • @PeaceForIsrael122
      @PeaceForIsrael122 2 місяці тому

      @@assassindelasaucisse.4039 Guugle „flag of palestine 1924“ for reference.

    • @assassindelasaucisse.4039
      @assassindelasaucisse.4039 2 місяці тому

      ​@@PeaceForIsrael122 You're clutching at straws.

  • @keuwakestata7469
    @keuwakestata7469 3 місяці тому +3

    Hi from France my feeling is that the far right in power for the moment is an unlikely hypothesis

    • @295Phoenix
      @295Phoenix 3 місяці тому +3

      What makes you think ALL the polls are wrong?

    • @keuwakestata7469
      @keuwakestata7469 3 місяці тому

      @@295Phoenix Do you believe in the accuracy of polls? Sometimes oriented? Do you know how these surveys are made?
      I made it clear that it was my feeling, I am French, I live in France
      In 2022, there was same election, the parliament is divided into 3 blocks, each around 30%
      See you on 07/07

    • @bramobin
      @bramobin 3 місяці тому +2

      t'es optimiste toi, le danger est réel

    • @keuwakestata7469
      @keuwakestata7469 3 місяці тому

      @@bramobin Optimiste pas vraiment non
      On verra si les "ni ni" se maintiennent, vu le cataclysme annoncé h24 , vont peut-être se réfugier sous l'aile protectrice de Macron & consorts.....Mais t'as raison aucune certitude

    • @295Phoenix
      @295Phoenix 3 місяці тому

      @@keuwakestata7469 LOL, I'm sure I'll have something to say to you on July 1! 😄

  • @AH--173
    @AH--173 3 місяці тому

    Nice tan, Owen. Must be enjoying the nice weather in London. But it will we be gone if we blink so enjoy while you can.

  • @turbanheadless
    @turbanheadless 3 місяці тому

    It is far right, not far roight

  • @alanconway94
    @alanconway94 3 місяці тому

    Why not? It did in 1940.