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The origin of the xenomorph: wave in a rotating ellipse

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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
  • This is a variant of the video • Classics revisited: ci... with a slowly rotating ellipse. The angular speed of the ellipse has been kept rather small, to avoid having too much numerical dispersion. As in the static case, the focal points play a special role, but the rotating boundary creates some extra spinning of the waves.
    The colors indicate the energy, according to the bar on the right. The rotating boundary conditions are implemented in the simplest possible way by setting the wave to zero outside the rotating ellipse. They thus do not take into account any energy that the boundary might transfer to the wave.
    Note: I'll be traveling for a few days, so may not reply to comments right away.
    Don't let the bedbugs bite...
    Render time: 24 minutes 30 seconds
    Color scheme: Magma by Nathaniel J. Smith and Stefan van der Walt
    github.com/BID...
    Music: Inner Sanctum by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 licence. creativecommon...
    Source: incompetech.com...
    Artist: incompetech.com/
    See also images.math.cn... for more explanations (in French) on a few previous simulations of wave equations.
    The simulation solves the wave equation by discretization. The algorithm is adapted from the paper hplgit.github....
    C code: github.com/nil...
    www.idpoisson....
    Many thanks to my colleague Marco Mancini for helping me to accelerate my code!

КОМЕНТАРІ • 116

  • @madkem1
    @madkem1 2 роки тому +109

    I'm a little surprised this didn't become chaotic.

    • @_NEPO_
      @_NEPO_ 2 роки тому +15

      What is mundane for the spider is chaos for the fly.

    • @sundog3247
      @sundog3247 2 роки тому +11

      If the medium is perfect as well as the relative geometries, "chaos" would cost more energy than is in the system.

    • @shoam2103
      @shoam2103 2 роки тому +5

      It didn't?

    • @ryanclarke5621
      @ryanclarke5621 2 роки тому +3

      It did become chaotic

    • @QueenGlory13
      @QueenGlory13 2 роки тому +1

      @@sundog3247 whys that?

  • @moocowpong1
    @moocowpong1 2 роки тому +31

    Oh how fascinating, I love the “whorls” that form around the foci!

  • @paulfoss5385
    @paulfoss5385 2 роки тому +49

    I like how the waves always maintain the symmetries of the container. Like here with the 180° rotational symmetry.

    • @chixenlegjo
      @chixenlegjo 2 роки тому +3

      Well, the starting conditions were symmetrical and there was nothing to change it, so I would expect symmetry.

    • @sahirde
      @sahirde 2 роки тому

      @@chixenlegjo ok, glad you're feeling that way. I think it's cool

    • @akashpatel70239
      @akashpatel70239 2 роки тому

      Interesting insight

  • @andrebartels1690
    @andrebartels1690 2 роки тому +31

    I tried to imagine how fast the ellipse would rotate if you sped the video up to make the waves go at sonic speed.
    Came to the conclusion, that our everyday objects are quite stationary from the perspective of sound waves.

    • @hamjudo
      @hamjudo 2 роки тому +5

      There is a causal relationship. At normal pressure, it takes a whole bunch of energy to keep something moving at any significant fraction of the speed of sound.
      Even little tiny things rotating near the speed of sound are painfully loud.

  • @jonathanwalther
    @jonathanwalther 2 роки тому +16

    "Don't let the bedbugs bite..." Haha, I very much liked this reference!

  • @atomicjay42
    @atomicjay42 2 роки тому +75

    Fantastic! The ellipse never disappoints!
    How did you decide on a rate of rotation? Did you try different speeds until you found one that looked the coolest, only try the one shown in this video, or something else?

    • @furniab4970
      @furniab4970 2 роки тому +1

      i agree

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +17

      I tried 2 or 3 different speeds. The rotation is slower here than in other rotating domains, because I wanted avoid the patterns to blur too quickly. I then chose the speed that produced the best-looking result.

  • @ThePondermatic
    @ThePondermatic 2 роки тому +12

    Interesting that most of the energy ends up being concentrated in the long sides of the ellipse, and furthermore that most of the energy passes through or close to the ellipse's center.

  • @Asterism_Desmos
    @Asterism_Desmos 2 роки тому +11

    This sounds like disc_11 on steroids.

  • @sososan2257
    @sososan2257 2 роки тому +1

    I like how the oval turns slowly throughout the video

  • @cocolasticot9027
    @cocolasticot9027 2 роки тому +2

    Fascinating. Let's put this on Ripley

  • @pimplepickerton
    @pimplepickerton 2 роки тому +1

    I have no idea what I am looking at, even after reading the description, but I am still enjoying it. Very interesting stuff.. I think.

  • @oscill8ocelot
    @oscill8ocelot 2 роки тому +2

    I love the vortices around the ellipse foci :3

  • @floydjunior7916
    @floydjunior7916 2 роки тому +2

    I love the symmetries produced by the devolving wavelengths

  • @codyramseur
    @codyramseur 2 роки тому +1

    You reach a new level with every video. It’s magnificent.

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 2 роки тому

    I don't know why I love these so much, I just do.

  • @simon-peter8895
    @simon-peter8895 2 роки тому +1

    I'm here for the music!

  • @Fleck2011
    @Fleck2011 2 роки тому +3

    This is so trippy.

  • @infiniteplanes5775
    @infiniteplanes5775 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like I never really knew what the term “hauntingly beautiful” meant until I heard this.

    • @infiniteplanes5775
      @infiniteplanes5775 2 роки тому +1

      This is the feeling of existential dread in sound. That feeling of being mortal, of being limited by the ticking clock, made manifest in audio.

  • @Marison85
    @Marison85 2 роки тому +8

    Beautiful! How about using fourier transform to translate wave patterns to audio? The music is fantastic tho.

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +2

      I haven't tried it for this shape, but see www.idpoisson.fr/berglund/isospectral.html for some different ones.

  • @Red-Brick-Dream
    @Red-Brick-Dream 2 роки тому +1

    I love these animations! Reminds me of my 4th-year in maths: solitons, dynamical systems, and computational ergodic theory 🥲

  • @indigoviolet_
    @indigoviolet_ 2 місяці тому

    You cannot comprehend the true form of Giygas’s attack!

  • @jonarmani8654
    @jonarmani8654 2 роки тому +1

    Hypnotizing

  • @sohamsengupta6470
    @sohamsengupta6470 2 роки тому +3

    Mesmerizing stuff

  • @asdf8asdf8asdf8asdf
    @asdf8asdf8asdf8asdf 2 роки тому +2

    Mitosis echoes

  • @r60d23
    @r60d23 2 роки тому +6

    spoooky

  • @quetzalcoatl6189
    @quetzalcoatl6189 2 роки тому

    The universe is a torus and so is everything inside of it. As above so below.

  • @upstairsdave
    @upstairsdave 2 роки тому +1

    I like the music in this one.

  • @mhungd7390
    @mhungd7390 2 роки тому

    Cool. This got on my recommendation page.

  • @scottgastauerjr4445
    @scottgastauerjr4445 2 роки тому

    Sounds like an LSD trip. Awesome math!

    • @BrnW1893
      @BrnW1893 2 роки тому

      Watch it at 2x speed.

  • @treesandstuff2068
    @treesandstuff2068 2 роки тому +1

    Stuff getting deeper

  • @algorithminc.8850
    @algorithminc.8850 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent ... like the sound too ... hahaha ... cheers ...

  • @eldjoudhi
    @eldjoudhi 2 роки тому +1

    Give it one billion years and it will become alive ;))

  • @its.thered
    @its.thered 2 роки тому +1

    This music is freaking me out

  • @erickmarin6147
    @erickmarin6147 2 роки тому +8

    How hard would it be to make the bounds rotation reactive to energy dissipated on it?

    • @erickmarin6147
      @erickmarin6147 2 роки тому +1

      Maybe making the energy dissipated a torque and starting the wave off center

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +1

      In principle, I believe one could compute the torque from the velocity of the waves near the boundary. Some modelling is required, but this has certainly be done by people modeling the effect of moving fluids on various objects (planes, boats, bridge pillars...)

  • @gte717v
    @gte717v 2 роки тому

    Looks like those pics of cosmic background radiation.

  • @PeterWMeek
    @PeterWMeek 2 роки тому

    Is the rotation speed related to the propagation time from focal point to focal point? (Is the time to rotate the ellipse180º a simple multiple of the time for the wave to propagate from one focal point to the other? All paths would be the same length in a stationary ellipse.) The closer the relationship, the more I would expect to see some resolution after a number of "propagation-time-units".

  • @Vlow52
    @Vlow52 2 роки тому +1

    This is beautiful. Have you tried the 3d simulations similar to this? Eg the Platonic solids

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому

      3d would be far too costly in terms of computer time with the method I'm using here, with that resolution. There may be other ways of achieving that (e.g. using a GPU, Fourier decomposition).

  • @jorgeestebanmendozaortiz873
    @jorgeestebanmendozaortiz873 2 роки тому +3

    What does a numerical simulation have anything to do with the xenomorph?

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +2

      Just an association the visuals created in my brain ;)

    • @JohnDlugosz
      @JohnDlugosz 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I was expecting it to end with a picture emerging, but I don't see anything clear where it stopped.

  • @eregorn8
    @eregorn8 2 роки тому

    Is this system integrable? In principle, you should be able to derive the stationary modes of an ellipse, and the rotation will add extra non-inertial terms into the Hamiltonian. This should allow, in principle, a solution without needing numerical integration. Very neat channel!

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому

      Thanks! For a non-rotating ellipse, the system is indeed integrable. I'm not quite sure what if this remains the case when it rotates, because the equation in an ellipse is not separable in polar coordinates, you have to use another set of coordinates.

  • @larrycarter1192
    @larrycarter1192 2 роки тому

    Looks like cosmic background radiation that people have been stuck on since the beginning of the big bang theory except there is no room for explaining the popcorn effect that made it suddenly expand. LOL.

  • @StormTheSquid
    @StormTheSquid 2 роки тому +4

    I don't quite get how this is the origin of the xenomorph? Is there a reference or joke I'm missing?

    • @ThePondermatic
      @ThePondermatic 2 роки тому +4

      I think it's simply that there's something weirdly alien about the wave patterns that appear, and the colors were chosen to emphasize that weirdness.

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, the shapes kind of reminded me of H.R. Giger's style :)

    • @codyramseur
      @codyramseur 2 роки тому +1

      It’s like if you let this continue, the emerging complex structure would have life and intelligence. That and the ellipse is shaped like an egg. Gotta extrapolate a bit. Nils may not have the CPU power and resources to produce a 100 million year simulation for us on UA-cam. That is the scale that I would imagine these complex evolutions to exist in, especially if we are talking true “origins.”

  • @d.lawrencemiller5755
    @d.lawrencemiller5755 2 роки тому

    Are all the ripples accurate depictions of interference patterns, or are they artifacts of a imperfect computation? I barely understand these simulations and have no idea how you make them. Do you have videos explaining this? Would you consider publishing an FAQ?

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому

      Ripples are already present in the initial state. They are probably amplified by discretization errors in the numerical simulation.
      I'm thinking of making some tutorials when I find the time. Meanwhile, you may want to have a look at the overview article hplgit.github.io/fdm-book/doc/pub/wave/pdf/wave-4print.pdf

  • @beaclaster
    @beaclaster 2 роки тому +3

    yay

  • @jacobcowan3599
    @jacobcowan3599 2 роки тому

    I'm curious what output might look like if one painted the values of waves at the point of reflection over this whole animation. Between the inscribed circle and circumscribed circle, I wonder if any interesting patterns might appear like hotspots of reflection or even continuous paths?

  • @FractalNinja
    @FractalNinja 2 роки тому

    3:20 oh yeah, its all coming together 😏

  • @aidancaldwell1266
    @aidancaldwell1266 2 роки тому +2

    you should make a chamber shaped like a human

  • @NugisBiboSchicken
    @NugisBiboSchicken 2 роки тому +1

    The Egg

  • @AtlasReburdened
    @AtlasReburdened 2 роки тому

    I'd love to see this arrangement, but with the ellipse rotating much more quickly, and whether or not any energy is able to propagate to the furthest points. I think it could be quite interesting if the rotation speed were set such that the velocity of the foci matched 'c' for the simulation.

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому

      You're probably right, but that would be quite challenging to simulate correctly, because the moving boundary causes a lot of numerical errors, which increase with the speed of rotation.

  • @anywallsocket
    @anywallsocket 2 роки тому

    The way the waves diffract as they pass one another implies an interaction beyond addition? Is there any such thing in your code? A residue? A slight stickiness to the media? Or is this just an illusion of sorts?

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +1

      The simulation (approximately) solves the linear wave equation, so there is no interaction intended. Whatever you see beyond interference must be either an optical illusion, or a numerical dispersion phenomenon. Also keep in mind that the colors show the energy, which is a sum of two quantities squared (proportional to variation of the wave in time and space).

  • @stephenweigel
    @stephenweigel 2 роки тому

    Trippy

  • @cara-seyun
    @cara-seyun 2 роки тому +1

    What is that background music?

  • @BlackSoap361
    @BlackSoap361 2 роки тому +1

    Have you tried rotating it about other points, other than the center?

  • @davidodwyer6673
    @davidodwyer6673 2 роки тому

    Hmmm, that's funny. Now I feel like watching some old-school Dr.Who eps. Wonder why? 🤔

  • @gmonorail
    @gmonorail 2 роки тому

    backlit/underlit water pond with overhead parasol display. landscaping water feature design and installation company

  • @awkwardturtle20xx84
    @awkwardturtle20xx84 2 роки тому +1

    It multiplied *_*

  • @h-Films
    @h-Films 2 роки тому

    aaaaaeeeeaaaaeeeoooooouuueeeaaaiiiiiiyyyeeeaa

  • @fakestory1753
    @fakestory1753 2 роки тому +2

    fuzzy

  • @shiddy.
    @shiddy. 2 роки тому

    very good

  • @jesussantander6511
    @jesussantander6511 2 роки тому

    What simulation tool do you use?

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому +1

      I code these in C, with some OpenGL libraries. The code is open source, there is a link in the description to my GitHub page.

    • @jesussantander6511
      @jesussantander6511 2 роки тому

      @@NilsBerglund cool. Thanks.

  • @matiasdominguez598
    @matiasdominguez598 2 роки тому

  • @monkerud2108
    @monkerud2108 2 роки тому

    Why don’t you make it interesting and make the ellipse react to the wave ;). Give it a small mass and let the waves have some momentum, that actually more interesting, it will speed up, slow down and so on in interesting ways.

  • @ttuljo
    @ttuljo 2 роки тому

    Very nice. But the background music is not nice. It's scary.

  • @Cutesticles
    @Cutesticles 2 роки тому

    Where is the xenomorph?

    • @NilsBerglund
      @NilsBerglund  2 роки тому

      Lurking in the dark somewhere, ready to jump on you...

  • @Beatsbasteln
    @Beatsbasteln 2 роки тому

    this must be how the universe was formed

  • @sivahkalloe6889
    @sivahkalloe6889 2 роки тому +2

    You should make some NFT’s

  • @TheBoojah
    @TheBoojah 2 роки тому

    Now do something non-linear!

  • @ezcreations777
    @ezcreations777 2 роки тому

    Thank God I got yet another blessed cheatcode in order to advance my brains neural network to the next level beyond the apex of human experience into the realm of the unique and unknown now known yet shrouded from view, blessed be thine resonator 🙏🙏

  • @vineethonkan
    @vineethonkan Рік тому +1

    So...alien?