@@Beyond_The_Print you probably need to go towards a high head low flow pelton design, that is if you have actual elevation where you live to work with. Or start working with those gears but they won't really do anything unless you put the water wheel on something else and then run the chain to it. 30 watts isn't that bad though when it's running 24/7
@@PhonePhone-sf8te thank you for this! I have played around with a Pelton turbine before if you havent seen those vids. I am limited to my elevation for the time being but hope I can improve this in the future. I'm currently working on some ideas for just this (separating them via chain drive) stay tuned!
@@Beyond_The_Print Oh cool, no I didn't see them, but I see you've been at it for a while. Keep up the good work, I'm definitely going to be watching them all.
Hey, I just found your site.. it's good, well I see you hit your 1000. Congratulations! You have some funny ads coming up getting to your site. Anyway you asked a few times about suggestions. Another cool water power project is the ram pump. A 3d printed version would be cool. Might be fun designing on CAD. Keep up your creativity, you are on the road to the future . Like computers, video games and mobile phones were in the 80s. Ya in the 1900s. Now is CAD, Design, 3d printing, power generation and eco friendly. You have it all. Good luck kid!
Are you referring to the blog post? If so that's not owned or operated by me In any manner. I really appreciate their post and time it took to write it! Thank you for the kind words on my channel and I've been trying to think of an design to generate power from this as well. I was also considering a wave generator but this is vastly more complex
My first thought was to pick some size drill bit and start with one hole on each side of every bucket. You could dial in exactly the speed you want slowly removing the same amount from each side of every bucket. Until you reach the flow you're looking for
Have the water go over the top, and not under. That should up the power a bit. Also look at pelton wheel designs. They have proven to be the most efficient. It looks like you have a fairly big 3D printer making these water wheels. With some skillful 3D modeling, you could make a pelton wheel design that will show huge improvements.
You should check out my Pelton turbines! I've been working on a few different ideas to try and make this work. Stay tuned, thanks for the suggestions and I'll have to try flipping it over
I teach about hydropower turbine design. Your wheel is indeed limited but not in the way you think. Once the water fills the bucket, it becomes static relative to the wheel. As it leaves the wheel on the otherside the viscosity is slowing down the wheel. Most waterwheels are large and slow to ninimize this issue. They also are designed to maximize the height the water travels in the wheel. You want a crossflow wheel in this application.
Put small holes along the walls and buckets. Air needs to be able to escape when water fills the bucket and the wheel needs to be able to release water as it turns. Fine line between capturing kinetic energy and weight drag. Your original design has no drag, might already be best model
It is not an impeller - not internal. And for the sides: there is no need to waste so much material on a flimsy wall. Get some stiff plastic/foamboard and just cut out that circle. Faster, cheaper, stronger. And the bucketed turbine setup is normally used for when the water is flowing over the wheel. Low velocity, low flowrate and using the height difference to extract as much energy as possible. If you plan on having a turbine right in that high-flow section you might want to test a shape more like a pelton-turbine.
Thanks for the correction and write up! That is correct they often directly function of the weight of the water in the bucket rather than the impulse of water hitting the blades. I've tested a Pelton style before and would like to try it here but the issue would be water hitting the returned water ruining efficiency. I'm looking into better designs currently, thank you again.
@@Beyond_The_Print As you got what essentially boils down to a sheet of water instead of just a thin stream: use half a pelton. Normally it is redirecting the water 180° to get as much momentum out of it. In your case you have way way more water and energy available so just a 90° diversion should be plenty of power and make the water clear the path faster.
What should I try next?
idk but I received a free hoverboard and I'll be gutting it and shrinking whatever stl you make work the best lol
@PhonePhone-sf8te haha good one
@@Beyond_The_Print you probably need to go towards a high head low flow pelton design, that is if you have actual elevation where you live to work with. Or start working with those gears but they won't really do anything unless you put the water wheel on something else and then run the chain to it. 30 watts isn't that bad though when it's running 24/7
@@PhonePhone-sf8te thank you for this! I have played around with a Pelton turbine before if you havent seen those vids. I am limited to my elevation for the time being but hope I can improve this in the future. I'm currently working on some ideas for just this (separating them via chain drive) stay tuned!
@@Beyond_The_Print Oh cool, no I didn't see them, but I see you've been at it for a while. Keep up the good work, I'm definitely going to be watching them all.
Awesome video dude! Just subscribed
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Powering a couple heaters? Pretty dang good if you ask me.
I think so too!
Hey, I just found your site.. it's good, well I see you hit your 1000. Congratulations! You have some funny ads coming up getting to your site. Anyway you asked a few times about suggestions. Another cool water power project is the ram pump. A 3d printed version would be cool.
Might be fun designing on CAD. Keep up your creativity, you are on the road to the future . Like computers, video games and mobile phones were in the 80s. Ya in the 1900s. Now is CAD, Design, 3d printing, power generation and eco friendly. You have it all. Good luck kid!
Are you referring to the blog post? If so that's not owned or operated by me In any manner. I really appreciate their post and time it took to write it! Thank you for the kind words on my channel and I've been trying to think of an design to generate power from this as well. I was also considering a wave generator but this is vastly more complex
Maybe you could add some hooks to the top poles of your ladder. So you can hang it without having to hold it and let it do it's thing.
I actually tried letting the emergency hooks hold the weight it seemed to do alright!
My first thought was to pick some size drill bit and start with one hole on each side of every bucket.
You could dial in exactly the speed you want slowly removing the same amount from each side of every bucket. Until you reach the flow you're looking for
This is a good idea too! If you haven't seen the open style one check that out. We were able to get a little more power out of that one
@Beyond_The_Tint I watched that first. Still your closed buckets allows you to slowly cut away now and figure out the optimal water flow.
Have the water go over the top, and not under. That should up the power a bit. Also look at pelton wheel designs. They have proven to be the most efficient. It looks like you have a fairly big 3D printer making these water wheels. With some skillful 3D modeling, you could make a pelton wheel design that will show huge improvements.
You should check out my Pelton turbines! I've been working on a few different ideas to try and make this work. Stay tuned, thanks for the suggestions and I'll have to try flipping it over
I teach about hydropower turbine design. Your wheel is indeed limited but not in the way you think. Once the water fills the bucket, it becomes static relative to the wheel. As it leaves the wheel on the otherside the viscosity is slowing down the wheel. Most waterwheels are large and slow to ninimize this issue. They also are designed to maximize the height the water travels in the wheel. You want a crossflow wheel in this application.
I just looked into the crossflow wheel turbines and I love it! Thank you and I see what you're saying in this test. Thank you for this input
I just came here because i just watch at one of your videos
the paddles need to be spoon shaped with no sides when you perfect it maybe then create a diverter to funnel more water into the paddles.
This is great advice thank you!
Put small holes along the walls and buckets. Air needs to be able to escape when water fills the bucket and the wheel needs to be able to release water as it turns. Fine line between capturing kinetic energy and weight drag. Your original design has no drag, might already be best model
That's a great idea! I hadn't considered this at all and I agree seems like the original may have been the optimal design in this location.
It is not an impeller - not internal.
And for the sides: there is no need to waste so much material on a flimsy wall. Get some stiff plastic/foamboard and just cut out that circle. Faster, cheaper, stronger.
And the bucketed turbine setup is normally used for when the water is flowing over the wheel. Low velocity, low flowrate and using the height difference to extract as much energy as possible.
If you plan on having a turbine right in that high-flow section you might want to test a shape more like a pelton-turbine.
Thanks for the correction and write up! That is correct they often directly function of the weight of the water in the bucket rather than the impulse of water hitting the blades. I've tested a Pelton style before and would like to try it here but the issue would be water hitting the returned water ruining efficiency. I'm looking into better designs currently, thank you again.
@@Beyond_The_Print As you got what essentially boils down to a sheet of water instead of just a thin stream: use half a pelton. Normally it is redirecting the water 180° to get as much momentum out of it. In your case you have way way more water and energy available so just a 90° diversion should be plenty of power and make the water clear the path faster.
@@ABaumstumpf I like it, time to get designing
can you make the fins pointed in ward
That's an awesome idea! Im going to look into this further!