@@upphieilyas3586 With all the nee 4 drops that came out since the nerf and coming on, I understand the decision of nerfing him so they dont have to constantly worry about zabu breaking a card
I think his best use case might not be to build around him rather just include him in and if you manage to make him go off then that just makes it snap worthy for your gameplan.
Absolutely agree! It reminds me of people playing a Phoenix Force deck relying ONLY on drawing that card. Throwing in Nimrod as an alternative play helps so much. Now to figure a good alternative play to Wiccan…🧐
Probably Wong on reveal cuz that deck just requires Wong -> BP/WT -> AZ/Odin and our first 2 turns are QS and Domino, turn 3 probably any good cost 3 especially on reveal, also Wiccan can combo with AZ/Odin
I agree with this. Many people are adding cards just for Wiccan but aren't considering trying a deck that would be great with his assistance and not built solely around him.
@JaimeGallegos86 I spent 6k tokens and have 0 regrets doing so. The card is very easy to play and with a little math you can give yourself a 30% chance of getting on turn 3.
Try Wiccan on High Evo. Hear me out, when you are able to Wiccan on 3 or 4, the excess energy is not used anyways so it can be use to power-up Evo Cards, but if you Wiccan't tempo him out then it still fine because it's what the deck strive to do, so either you are able to play him or not is a win-win for the deck.
Luckily I got Wiccan in the first key and have been performing pretty well. I used a sort of blink deck: 1. Quicksilver 2. Domino 3. Electro 4. Crystal 5. Red Guardian 6. Nocturne 7. Iron Lad 8. Wiccan 9. Blink 10. Doom 11. Red Hulk 12. Magneto Basically just cheating out more energy with electro-blink/iron lad if I can't get Wiccan. Had roughly an 70-80% win rate with this deck honestly. Hope this helps!
He could be good in old Loki deck but Wiccan instead of Loki. You shouldn't deny yourself good draws with quicksilver and domino. Just hope to draw Kitty, Quinjet or Snowguard then Thena, Angela, Jeff or Cable. Turn 3 Coulson. Turn 4 Wiccan. Something like this.
I have built 3 different decks that he works very good in. I think his best deck is going to be Cerebro 7 though since the energy requirement is less of a factor. I have also ran him with success in a Destruction deck utilizing Marvel Boy to beef up Deadpool. The other was a Havok/Wiccan deck as long as you play Wiccan before Havok you still get the +2. Another good card to run with Wiccan is Red Hulk.
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616there are so many reasons I think he should be ongoing. One is that your opponent should be able to prevent the added energy. The benefits of +2 energy a turn is just way too good.
@kl3122 I don't think you've really thought about this at all. If you really believe that what about mystique ?? Copying the effect on 5, in most scenarios, you can probably get a board state where you have priority? What about cosmo turn three then into him on 4, then there's not much you can do outside of playing echo I guess, but then what about locations that boost ongoing effects also? We have to wait and see how the stats shape up before we talk about tweaks but I just don't see making him ongoing fixing him if he is broken.
tbh Nina is not a great deckbuilder. I like her a lot but she is not an indicator. If Jeff or Cozy say something is bad, then you can believe it. They are good at deckbuilding.
Someone might correct me, but on ladder, it SEEMS bots always have obvious highest ranks - 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65.............i could be wrong, but it seems to check out. Inf obviously doesnt tell you much though, so only for lower ranks.
Try Quick silver but on turn 2 put Psylocke zabu and Jeff d'or sécure turn 2 after bring couple turn 4 whit wiccam like Wong and Gwen pool for value zabu or Psylocke that m'y thinks
6:30 actually 🤓☝2 wong would be the best scenario, one wong and 3 iron heart would be x6, same with 3 wong and one iron heart, but 2 wong and 2 iron heat would be x8 you get + 12
It will probably take a while to crack this card. Jeff already made a good HE-deck with Wiccan. Sunspot seems core to run with him to make use of the energy
I fought two bots, I think, their Collection levels were 15k and 14k, but their highest ranks are 94 and 93. They even used series 4-5 cards and they used emoji back at me. It made me think they are not bots. But who's in the world with levels 15k and 14k that never reached Infinite?
Well one of the biggest problems is the fact you are playing both quicksilver AND domino. You do understand that that reduces your chances of drawing wiccan significantly. Just play one or the other, depending on your deck type and energy curve based on the cost of the rest of the deck. It also means you are less likely to draw other win conditions or useful cards on the first two turns. Remember, two guaranteed turns to draw domino and quicksilver are two guaranteed turns to not draw wiccan and he isn't super useful on the last turn obviously. Magic is a waste of 3 energy to get an extra turn to maybe draw wiccan, which is not a good trade. And because of those first two turns of not drawing a useful card, you are also increasing the chances to draw the dud magik on the last turn, which sucks. Deck building issue not a card issue
Zabu? Now that's not a name I've heard in a long time. Long time.
too much nerf :'v
@@upphieilyas3586 With all the nee 4 drops that came out since the nerf and coming on, I understand the decision of nerfing him so they dont have to constantly worry about zabu breaking a card
Zabwho?
@@aesirloki4833 I'm pretty sure that it was said that Zabu is being reworked to be better.
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Wiccant 😔
I think his best use case might not be to build around him rather just include him in and if you manage to make him go off then that just makes it snap worthy for your gameplan.
Absolutely agree!
It reminds me of people playing a Phoenix Force deck relying ONLY on drawing that card.
Throwing in Nimrod as an alternative play helps so much.
Now to figure a good alternative play to Wiccan…🧐
@@remylebeau077there doesn't seem to be one. Wiccan is ramp, so either you Electro or you Wiccan
Probably Wong on reveal cuz that deck just requires Wong -> BP/WT -> AZ/Odin and our first 2 turns are QS and Domino, turn 3 probably any good cost 3 especially on reveal, also Wiccan can combo with AZ/Odin
I agree with this. Many people are adding cards just for Wiccan but aren't considering trying a deck that would be great with his assistance and not built solely around him.
Testing him out in Agatha right now. Pretty fun.
Thought he might be good with Agatha but didn’t want to use up keys just to try
@JaimeGallegos86 I spent 6k tokens and have 0 regrets doing so. The card is very easy to play and with a little math you can give yourself a 30% chance of getting on turn 3.
Try Wiccan on High Evo. Hear me out, when you are able to Wiccan on 3 or 4, the excess energy is not used anyways so it can be use to power-up Evo Cards, but if you Wiccan't tempo him out then it still fine because it's what the deck strive to do, so either you are able to play him or not is a win-win for the deck.
Thanks for the vid nina, i think the only reason i want to get him is to get that awesome spotlight variant for him😅
I’ve saved up enough resources to get the Flaviano variants of all the new cards because Flaviano>everything else in the game. Ok thanks bye
The spotlight variant is gorgeous!! I’m tempted myself even though I only have 2 keys left 😭
Luckily I got Wiccan in the first key and have been performing pretty well. I used a sort of blink deck:
1. Quicksilver
2. Domino
3. Electro
4. Crystal
5. Red Guardian
6. Nocturne
7. Iron Lad
8. Wiccan
9. Blink
10. Doom
11. Red Hulk
12. Magneto
Basically just cheating out more energy with electro-blink/iron lad if I can't get Wiccan. Had roughly an 70-80% win rate with this deck honestly. Hope this helps!
He could be good in old Loki deck but Wiccan instead of Loki. You shouldn't deny yourself good draws with quicksilver and domino. Just hope to draw Kitty, Quinjet or Snowguard then Thena, Angela, Jeff or Cable. Turn 3 Coulson. Turn 4 Wiccan. Something like this.
i was thinking of skipping, now I am sure of it
I have built 3 different decks that he works very good in. I think his best deck is going to be Cerebro 7 though since the energy requirement is less of a factor. I have also ran him with success in a Destruction deck utilizing Marvel Boy to beef up Deadpool. The other was a Havok/Wiccan deck as long as you play Wiccan before Havok you still get the +2. Another good card to run with Wiccan is Red Hulk.
Wiccan seems like Spider-Man 2099. Good Stats, good ability but awkward to play
not similar in any way. Spiderman 2099 is awful, meanwhile Wiccan is just complex and takes time to figure out
1:30 Huh, I never knew about the Domino and Time Theatre interaction
His text should read:
ongoing: if you spent all your energy this turn +2 energy next turn.
What??? Why??
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616there are so many reasons I think he should be ongoing. One is that your opponent should be able to prevent the added energy. The benefits of +2 energy a turn is just way too good.
@kl3122 I don't think you've really thought about this at all. If you really believe that what about mystique ?? Copying the effect on 5, in most scenarios, you can probably get a board state where you have priority? What about cosmo turn three then into him on 4, then there's not much you can do outside of playing echo I guess, but then what about locations that boost ongoing effects also? We have to wait and see how the stats shape up before we talk about tweaks but I just don't see making him ongoing fixing him if he is broken.
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616 😂 I will agree to disagree. Maybe Wiccan could be changed to a 4/0….
@kl3122 4 0 is crazy, 🤣🤣 waste turn 4 just to get sandman'd and you've got no stats on the board lol.
Domino being playable is more compelling to me than Wiccan
"Oh, you son of a crap ass!!" 🤣🤣🤣
you know its bad when not even Nina is click baiting by saying the card is SO BROKEN
It looks promising, not bad at all.
@@looplooplooplooploopis that you Scarlet Witch? Cuz Wiccan is a card only a mom could love
@@JamestheKilljoy This comment won't age well lmao
To be fair a lot of times when a new card comes out nina doesn't click bait. Plenty of cards she says isn't good in her title or is underwhelming
tbh Nina is not a great deckbuilder. I like her a lot but she is not an indicator. If Jeff or Cozy say something is bad, then you can believe it. They are good at deckbuilding.
Someone might correct me, but on ladder, it SEEMS bots always have obvious highest ranks - 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65.............i could be wrong, but it seems to check out. Inf obviously doesnt tell you much though, so only for lower ranks.
I wouldnt say a dud more like a stud amiright
Dropping Domino for Psylocke and Zabu to play him turn 3, maybe?
I wasn’t really excited for Wiccan to begin with, so it’s even more of an easy skip for me. Thanks for the video Nina😊
Try Quick silver but on turn 2 put Psylocke zabu and Jeff d'or sécure turn 2 after bring couple turn 4 whit wiccam like Wong and Gwen pool for value zabu or Psylocke that m'y thinks
6:30 actually 🤓☝2 wong would be the best scenario, one wong and 3 iron heart would be x6, same with 3 wong and one iron heart, but 2 wong and 2 iron heat would be x8 you get + 12
Use all your energy is easy with zoo/early decks, but wiccan doesn't fit in that type of decks, and also its rewards is for high cost heavy cards
It will probably take a while to crack this card. Jeff already made a good HE-deck with Wiccan. Sunspot seems core to run with him to make use of the energy
Did Jeff pay for this comment?
@@JamestheKilljoyDude… Jeff is an exceptionaly good player / deckbuilder. Wheter you like him or not, he is.
Bipbopbot my butt is my new mantra 🙏
I fought two bots, I think, their Collection levels were 15k and 14k, but their highest ranks are 94 and 93. They even used series 4-5 cards and they used emoji back at me.
It made me think they are not bots. But who's in the world with levels 15k and 14k that never reached Infinite?
Well one of the biggest problems is the fact you are playing both quicksilver AND domino. You do understand that that reduces your chances of drawing wiccan significantly. Just play one or the other, depending on your deck type and energy curve based on the cost of the rest of the deck.
It also means you are less likely to draw other win conditions or useful cards on the first two turns.
Remember, two guaranteed turns to draw domino and quicksilver are two guaranteed turns to not draw wiccan and he isn't super useful on the last turn obviously. Magic is a waste of 3 energy to get an extra turn to maybe draw wiccan, which is not a good trade. And because of those first two turns of not drawing a useful card, you are also increasing the chances to draw the dud magik on the last turn, which sucks. Deck building issue not a card issue
Like your true honest videos nina keep it going and yeah the new card does suck ass 😊
OK, but where is my baby filter? 💔
Is Wiccan Wegan or is Viccan Vegan? 🤔
cool
This is bad deck you basically just put wiccan into a top meta deck
Wdym bad deck
What part of this deck is top meta? The quicksilver and domino? 😂
😀
The strategy is boring around him
He's more of an ongoing effort rather than a reveal. Second, dinner should probably fix that.
So glad I didn't buy this pos lol
I tried him in a different deck and he felt better but that’s probably because that deck had Loki in it 🤣
He's good