That's absolutely the biggest mistake with this unit, premium summonable units like this should not be locked to one single team especially teams that rarely get support.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 IDK if restrictions is the issue considering it's a yellow coin LR, I'd say these have been better than what we're used to, I think it's more so that it specifically should've been like cell max where either special pose OR Terrifying conquerors. However I feel like even then they'd not be enough to make the Frieza team work 😢
@@Zino.57 Yellow coin lrs are still premium summonable units that they're asking you to spend stones/money on. There is no reason that Ginyu should be locked in special pose hell for the rest of time. Under no circumstances should a premium summonable unit be locked to exactly one team. It is unforgivable.
"BEHOLD! This Ginyu Force branded advanced Scouter is the Frieza Force's finest tool of choice! Instantly get a reading within a margin of error of 0.35%! Never be taken by surprise again!"
You can't be serious... The friend toppo just wasn't good because he didn't even have79%... His build could've been more raw defense instead of trying to go full dodge.
@@romajiin8161 Okay but as we can see in this video the team they're locked too sucks. So people who summoned for the ginyu force now just have a unit that's locked to a team that can't even really clear the hardest fight in the game. Premium units should under NO CIRCUMSTANCES be locked to one team.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 If you want to do no item runs all day then yeah they won’t do that well, but guess what? You have 2 Items and a Support Memory to help with stats. It’s your choice to make the game as hard as you want but the unit is just gonna do what they’re designed to do regardless of the difficulty
Wish you would use items late into a showcase video (items like a king Yemma) just so you can get to the part of the fight you want the showcase character to show off in. We already know the units strength's and weakness when you're like 30 minutes into a video.
47:40 truth it’s actually fine if you just get gotenks to 10 ki instead of 11 bc he has his damage reduction as long as his ki is 11 or lower( so 10 ki is fine) the only difference is he’d do more damage with his 11 ki than his 10 ki And also gotenks’ dodge is just in his kit so he’d have his 50% bare minimum there either way
The phy phase is really wierd when it comes to int characters for me. Like both gamma 1 and evo vegeta took massive damage from their normals for me too. (Unless they have high dmg reduction)
8:13 If only it mattered in this phase Edit: 29:46 How did you manage to say this in the in the exact same face where it doesn't matter? 29:56 Did you not say the real problem of this fight was 17 and frieza & 17 NOT the Goku & Frieza phase?
Toppo not having dodge didnt matter in that phase its what comes after. Toppo type disadvantage on the phase after eating every single hit is what mattered
@@eliyan3489 Sorry not sorry but this argument doesn't work when he can't get even get past 17 & Frieza without praying for no super. Need I remind that if Truth gets supered and it's not toppo it's gg's with no counterplay. Also I'm literally using Truth's own words against him about Goku and frieza not being the meat and potatoes of this stage. Lastly I'm calling him out on him ranting about a friend not building their toppo full dodge.... in event where there is a sure hit effect in of the harder phases
29:41 sadly so many people don’t even read kits at all they just pump whatever on their units I’ve seen fpss4 gokus with dodge and crit and I’ve seen beasts with dodge
@@GeoRazer don’t like it cause you’re just risking him dodging early on in the fights and not building up cause you could miss out on both his hits and his guaranteed additional depending on your luck
8:13 did your dodge build on toppo even saved you once ? I'm not talking about dodging a super attack in base in a team where he doesn't have his intro, I'm talking about the whole reason you're argueing that a full dodge build is the only right build on toppo : you say that by having full dodge you can preserve damage reduction once he is transformed, which is true, but did you ever survived a major boss super attack because you transformed your toppo early and he had just enough damage reduction to live the super because you dodged attacks during his previous turn ? If the answer is no ( or once ) as someone who as done hundreds of run with the character, then it means that full dodge build on toppo has pretty much the same value as full dodge build on any defensive units, and as such it's not the "only right build" especially in a fight like goku and frieza where an additionnal super by god toppo can greatly help. ( I'm writing this comment before I watch the end of this video so if what I mentionned happens during it, I'm going to look pretty dumb )
@@Gloobiewoobie kinda true, but isn't datruth the one's who always complains about people overvalueing the potential of some units compared to the performance in pratice ? But when it comes to dodge he defends his build by using a scenario that never actually happens
@@buuduoisontop 50% of the hidden potential additionals are normals, and 50% of them are supers. I have no idea what he's trying to prove here. That his specific game is rigged and has a less than 50% chance for supers? Because overall he does get 50% supers, it's only that he fixates on the negatives rather than the positives.
@@buuduoisontopjust bc a hipo super doesn't proc doesn't mean he's all of a sudden right. Dodge builds are rng fests too, yet he'll never get mad when a 30 dodge unit doesn't dodge, but he will when a 20 additional character doesn't get the super
It's funny when people act like they're doing something by pointing out that Dokkan is a mobile game, as if that’s not how he makes his money (and a good amount if you check his UA-cam stats).
So I decided to count hipo additionals from attempt 4 onwards. (I'll go back and check 1-3 later and add them into the totals) From what I counted (I may have missed one or two) Truth had 13 HiPO additionals activate in those three attemtps. 11 of which were supers and 2 of which were normals. This is of course well above average but I simply want to tackle truth whining about being always super unlucky with HIPO additionals. He's more than happy to point out the 2+ HIPO normals in a row but fails to even notice the reverse which is feeding into his bias of thinking he's unlucky when in reality he's not super unlucky. He simply notices the bad and ignores the good.
The worst designed and most toxic fight this game has ever released. I got my easy win with Super Heroes (duh) and I'm never gonna touch this fight ever again. The devs need to do better than this.
Idk what is the problem with your units truth but my hidden potential is more often than not supers. Also can you please just hit the little box after you lose a game so that menu doesn’t pop up every time
@@buuduoisontop do you even have one clip ( on datruth's channel or elsewhere ) in which toppo survives a super attack with just enough damage reduction because he dodged some attacks beforehand ? I swear I never saw it happen but everyone keeps bringing it up as the whole reason why toppo should be played full dodge and nothing else. I'm not saying that dodge is bad on toppo, just that it doesn't really have more value on him compared to other defensive units ( especially in this fight were an additional super could be very helpful against goku and frieza )
@@buuduoisontop Yes, toppo should be built full dodge. I agree. But in that particular circumstance, it doesn't matter whether the friend toppo has a dodge build or not because the enemy phase cancels dodge.
How is bro still hung up about messing up his 1st LR Ginyu Force videos. It's ok to make mistakes, dude. There were some opportunities to go for the 50% chance to stack against non-threatening phases (Beast Gohan phase 1) and you missed them. People exaggerate in calling you out for it but that's just the way internet comments are. Yes it's only a 50% chance that you can miss if you have very bad luck, but it's better to try than to just ignore it, especially in a non-threatening phase where you don't need the support. In this video you had supremely bad luck (5 Jeices in a row is a 1.5% chance), which sucks, but it's not like you lost anything by trying.
Complains about 69% friend toppo…..does the dumb play to put his unit in slot 1 and gets blasted…..when the toppo had a better chance of surviving……stop trying to crap on other people’s units it’s not cool.
Can't believe they dropped AFTER FRIEZA and were gated to ONLY SPECIAL POSE
That's absolutely the biggest mistake with this unit, premium summonable units like this should not be locked to one single team especially teams that rarely get support.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 IDK if restrictions is the issue considering it's a yellow coin LR, I'd say these have been better than what we're used to, I think it's more so that it specifically should've been like cell max where either special pose OR Terrifying conquerors. However I feel like even then they'd not be enough to make the Frieza team work 😢
@@Zino.57 Yellow coin lrs are still premium summonable units that they're asking you to spend stones/money on. There is no reason that Ginyu should be locked in special pose hell for the rest of time.
Under no circumstances should a premium summonable unit be locked to exactly one team. It is unforgivable.
I hard disagree I would rather them be good on 1 team than to a team with nothing @haydenmcqueen2503
@@fortmadeofbrassbut why does it have to be those 2 options? Why can’t he be good on 2 or 3 teams?
Take a shot every time truth says “hidden potential system normal” Challenge: FATAL
That ginyu force background looks like ginyu is trying to sell me a scouter.
Must-buy
"BEHOLD! This Ginyu Force branded advanced Scouter is the Frieza Force's finest tool of choice! Instantly get a reading within a margin of error of 0.35%!
Never be taken by surprise again!"
the sax in toppos intro always goes hard
It's so good. I wonder who's behind all the music in the game
Just like me because of how damn smexy it sounds
54 mins!!! Them boys got diddled
diddled is crazy💀
Woah diabolical
Burter failing everytime had me dying
bro is horrible at rock paper scissors, he loses every 1 in 3 you can find
I love how they buffed the hell out of the category for an entire celebration only for it to become not good enough a couple of months later 🥶
These are no item attempts. The devs balance the game around items I think, with items he obviously wins easily.
@@sonodv1709 yeah that's fair I am just referencing something Truth said in the video, but still the power creep is crazy this year lmao
Awesome video Truth! Really was looking forward to this one
Was a commentor on the original Ginyu vid, you played perfectly here compared to back then. Thing is, YOUR LUCK SUCKS APPARENTLY
I think you’re one of the first honest commenters I’ve seen here in years lmfao
The goat uploads again with the GOATYU FORCE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jiren not being on special pose when he is constantly turning around and crossing his arms feels like a massive oversight
That Budokai OST in the beginning is so nostalgic 😊 remember hearing it in them menus where you'd pick your character
Goat Force 🕺
More like Zesty force 😂
Correct me if I'm wrong, did this dude bitched about a 69% toppo's build always in the turns of dodge cancelling?
toppo has a secret mechanic that nullify dodge cancelling if he’s full dodge
You can't be serious... The friend toppo just wasn't good because he didn't even have79%... His build could've been more raw defense instead of trying to go full dodge.
@@spy_magicthing8347bro went for full additional not full dodge
I know Truths' reaction to the early USS EZA announcements for Global is gonna be funny 😂
It took Truth nearly 50 minutes to get Burter once LMAO
A premium unit shouldn’t be restricted to full categories
I disagree, if you’re gonna be restricted then be powerful and that is what the Ginyu Force team are
@@romajiin8161 Okay but as we can see in this video the team they're locked too sucks. So people who summoned for the ginyu force now just have a unit that's locked to a team that can't even really clear the hardest fight in the game.
Premium units should under NO CIRCUMSTANCES be locked to one team.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 If you want to do no item runs all day then yeah they won’t do that well, but guess what? You have 2 Items and a Support Memory to help with stats. It’s your choice to make the game as hard as you want but the unit is just gonna do what they’re designed to do regardless of the difficulty
THE OST IN THE INTRO OF THE VID, MEMORIESSSSSSS
Kinda random but I think truth should use the new UI goku fight for showcases or at least include that fight in long videos.
Ginyu force was the most fun team when Dokkanfest Captain Ginyu came out!
Wish you would use items late into a showcase video (items like a king Yemma) just so you can get to the part of the fight you want the showcase character to show off in. We already know the units strength's and weakness when you're like 30 minutes into a video.
Had Ssbe been a newer release with a 200% leader i feel like truth would straight up block my 15 dodge Ssbe Vegeta 💀
LR JIREN EZA IS COMING TO GLOBAL FOR PART 3 HOOOOOLY
47:40 truth it’s actually fine if you just get gotenks to 10 ki instead of 11 bc he has his damage reduction as long as his ki is 11 or lower( so 10 ki is fine) the only difference is he’d do more damage with his 11 ki than his 10 ki
And also gotenks’ dodge is just in his kit so he’d have his 50% bare minimum there either way
Me when hidden potential system additional normal 🗣️
8:15 yap again every time
Toppo with dodge build is so good he would’ve surpassed the dodge cancel and dodge anyway
How is Jiren not on special pose that arm cross is the hardest pose bro does
Complaining about the friend units dodge in a phase u can't dodge LMAO
We need a new ssb vegeta, like an evolved one. Him and toppo would have been a great tanabata
The diddy force, kris, diddy, Dr. Disrespect edp& drake
THE ALLEGATION FORCE 😤👾👺🫥🤤
L Kris w rest
Jk
@@devaxionrl8189👀
What did DiddySauce do
What is that song at 30:08
A Full 2024 team can't beat it. Nice!
The phy phase is really wierd when it comes to int characters for me. Like both gamma 1 and evo vegeta took massive damage from their normals for me too. (Unless they have high dmg reduction)
Omatsu trying not to make a great yellow coin or hyper restricted to one mid team(Cell max is the only exception)
ginyu force tank really fucking well holy shit
What is the pink button in the teams selection?
Truth has a top tier beard
Truth’s famous words: WE LOST 😂
i saw ginyu force and clicked
we need the sync bad. i just want to be playing the same game as y’all
25:38 thats crazy
Its insane that global gets 3 more ezas !
20:56 my GOATMAS lived with only 2 orbs for 400k my king tanks all
The tanabata EZA units are coming
8:13 If only it mattered in this phase
Edit: 29:46 How did you manage to say this in the in the exact same face where it doesn't matter?
29:56
Did you not say the real problem of this fight was 17 and frieza & 17 NOT the Goku & Frieza phase?
🤪👈
Toppo not having dodge didnt matter in that phase its what comes after. Toppo type disadvantage on the phase after eating every single hit is what mattered
@@kokane0exactly how are some people so stupid not to understand that 😭 one phase isn't the entire fight
@@eliyan3489 Sorry not sorry but this argument doesn't work when he can't get even get past 17 & Frieza without praying for no super. Need I remind that if Truth gets supered and it's not toppo it's gg's with no counterplay.
Also I'm literally using Truth's own words against him about Goku and frieza not being the meat and potatoes of this stage.
Lastly I'm calling him out on him ranting about a friend not building their toppo full dodge.... in event where there is a sure hit effect in of the harder phases
@@crowofjudgement4718because the second phase you need dodge you actual kulak
this unit literally needs burter stacks lol. It turns them into a completely different unit but truths luck in this video was just horrendous
29:41 sadly so many people don’t even read kits at all they just pump whatever on their units I’ve seen fpss4 gokus with dodge and crit and I’ve seen beasts with dodge
Beast with dodge actually isn't bad when you think of Bosses that seal and stun
@@GeoRazer don’t like it cause you’re just risking him dodging early on in the fights and not building up cause you could miss out on both his hits and his guaranteed additional depending on your luck
Transforming beast gohan incoming!!!
These were some interesting run`s. But the real question here is....what about LR PHY giny force? Can they survive? Are you afraid of a challenge?
HE SAID TOPPO, NOT TOP🗣
WE GETTING THE TANABATA EZAS PART 3 JESUS IS REAAAAAAAAAL🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣
I never get as many normals as Truth. Just get better
Is it me or the total hp for this team is lower than normal
22:25 And if we're going to play this game dodge does nothing and I repeat nothing here
turles world tour when?
whats better 70% chance to guard or 50% chance for burter
27:45 sa 10 Jiren level’s of thinking
8:13 did your dodge build on toppo even saved you once ? I'm not talking about dodging a super attack in base in a team where he doesn't have his intro, I'm talking about the whole reason you're argueing that a full dodge build is the only right build on toppo : you say that by having full dodge you can preserve damage reduction once he is transformed, which is true, but did you ever survived a major boss super attack because you transformed your toppo early and he had just enough damage reduction to live the super because you dodged attacks during his previous turn ? If the answer is no ( or once ) as someone who as done hundreds of run with the character, then it means that full dodge build on toppo has pretty much the same value as full dodge build on any defensive units, and as such it's not the "only right build" especially in a fight like goku and frieza where an additionnal super by god toppo can greatly help.
( I'm writing this comment before I watch the end of this video so if what I mentionned happens during it, I'm going to look pretty dumb )
it doesnt need to actually work, datruth just needs to think it works
@@Gloobiewoobie kinda true, but isn't datruth the one's who always complains about people overvalueing the potential of some units compared to the performance in pratice ? But when it comes to dodge he defends his build by using a scenario that never actually happens
45:41 who heard that fart?
I want the facecam truth
I think the teams needs some way besides orbs to gain hp
Global is getting rep 7 EZA too
Wish jiren was on special pose
Hidden Potential System Normal
Is it me or truth has the worst luck I ever seen.
Truth every five second “Hidden potential additional normal”. Like let it go it’s a fucking mobile game dude
proving he is right about full additional and crit build with this comment
@@buuduoisontopsame thing with not dodging its a rng game so go with your preference
@@buuduoisontop 50% of the hidden potential additionals are normals, and 50% of them are supers. I have no idea what he's trying to prove here. That his specific game is rigged and has a less than 50% chance for supers? Because overall he does get 50% supers, it's only that he fixates on the negatives rather than the positives.
@@buuduoisontopjust bc a hipo super doesn't proc doesn't mean he's all of a sudden right. Dodge builds are rng fests too, yet he'll never get mad when a 30 dodge unit doesn't dodge, but he will when a 20 additional character doesn't get the super
It's funny when people act like they're doing something by pointing out that Dokkan is a mobile game, as if that’s not how he makes his money (and a good amount if you check his UA-cam stats).
So I decided to count hipo additionals from attempt 4 onwards. (I'll go back and check 1-3 later and add them into the totals)
From what I counted (I may have missed one or two)
Truth had 13 HiPO additionals activate in those three attemtps.
11 of which were supers and 2 of which were normals. This is of course well above average but I simply want to tackle truth whining about being always super unlucky with HIPO additionals. He's more than happy to point out the 2+ HIPO normals in a row but fails to even notice the reverse which is feeding into his bias of thinking he's unlucky when in reality he's not super unlucky. He simply notices the bad and ignores the good.
The worst designed and most toxic fight this game has ever released. I got my easy win with Super Heroes (duh) and I'm never gonna touch this fight ever again. The devs need to do better than this.
54 mins you say
Idk what is the problem with your units truth but my hidden potential is more often than not supers. Also can you please just hit the little box after you lose a game so that menu doesn’t pop up every time
It doesn't work
@@reign1594 gotcha I have no idea I’m global player it’s Just an annoying screen
@@Captainwaffles2 🫡
25:27 yes but it's not 100% though.
day 31 (video 152) of asking truth to play on a bigger device
Time for fun
Bruh can't believe prt 3 has all the universal survival saga lrs @datruth
Video is long just because he is taking his time in stacking their defense 🗣🗣🗣
8:22 it doesnt matter how he's built tho? You can't dodge frieza & 17
but you can dodge gofrieza lmao. dodge is deadass the only build for toppo and nothing else
@@buuduoisontop do you even have one clip ( on datruth's channel or elsewhere ) in which toppo survives a super attack with just enough damage reduction because he dodged some attacks beforehand ? I swear I never saw it happen but everyone keeps bringing it up as the whole reason why toppo should be played full dodge and nothing else. I'm not saying that dodge is bad on toppo, just that it doesn't really have more value on him compared to other defensive units ( especially in this fight were an additional super could be very helpful against goku and frieza )
@@buuduoisontopany unit that relies on potential system dodge is a dog shit unit
@@buuduoisontop Yes, toppo should be built full dodge. I agree. But in that particular circumstance, it doesn't matter whether the friend toppo has a dodge build or not because the enemy phase cancels dodge.
@vfdioxy4257 He should be built full dodge because every attack he gets hit with, he loses a significant amount of damage reduction.
How is bro still hung up about messing up his 1st LR Ginyu Force videos.
It's ok to make mistakes, dude. There were some opportunities to go for the 50% chance to stack against non-threatening phases (Beast Gohan phase 1) and you missed them. People exaggerate in calling you out for it but that's just the way internet comments are.
Yes it's only a 50% chance that you can miss if you have very bad luck, but it's better to try than to just ignore it, especially in a non-threatening phase where you don't need the support.
In this video you had supremely bad luck (5 Jeices in a row is a 1.5% chance), which sucks, but it's not like you lost anything by trying.
Complains about 69% friend toppo…..does the dumb play to put his unit in slot 1 and gets blasted…..when the toppo had a better chance of surviving……stop trying to crap on other people’s units it’s not cool.
He gets to crap on other peoples units because his are literally just better because he's a domain whale with 100% everything
Broly trio>>>>>
finally no same units over and over again
@JustinMedina-ro8dustay mad that using 5% of the game over and over is boring as fuck
Day 652 of asking Truth to twerk on facecam.
called it i knew the most likely thing for an "EX" was global dropping team u7 and 17 & Golden Frieza ezas
Cant get Burter to win a game of rock paper scissors? Sounds like an ill skissue.
Ginyu balls
best unit this year
The bait is real
Can confirm, beast gohan is barely top 10 in the face of this unit
Int pride troopers are too trash for this
UNC HAS GONE CRAZY WITH THIS ONE 🗣️📈📈
Truth Is Amazing!!!
My GOATS 🙏
beasts at 55% doesnt gap the game
THE GINYU FORCE !! 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Get good please
THE GINYU FORCE!!!
Just run Jiren and or other non SP characters on a different rotation
RIP ginyu
Wow this team sucks👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Goatyu force 🗣️
how tf they gon do damage
The goatyu FORCE
Best