Engine Teardown on Lycoming O-320 after 20 Years in a Barn! - Airplane Rebuild | Thorp T-18

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  • Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
  • #aviation #lycoming #experimentalaircraft
    This time I tear down the Lycoming O-320 engine from the barn find Thorp T-18. This engine hasn't been started in over 20 years! Follow along and see what we find inside of this engine as we tear it completely down and examine the internals!
    Shout out to my girlfriend for running the camera and getting these awesome close up's!
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  • @ctorresphotography
    @ctorresphotography 6 місяців тому +6

    I love how I'm in my ACMT courses to get my A&P license and currently am tearing this engine down. Never did I think I'd stumble across a video with the exact engine I'm working on (albeit, a much, much nicer one than the one we've got in class). Love how the guys and I are tagging everything the same way you are (Ex cyl. 4, Intake cyl. 2 etc.) Thanks for posting brother!

    • @JakeSpomer
      @JakeSpomer 6 місяців тому +1

      the crankshaft isn’t even bent

    • @ctorresphotography
      @ctorresphotography 6 місяців тому +1

      @@JakeSpomer I know right. Just a beauty.

    • @JakeSpomer
      @JakeSpomer 6 місяців тому +1

      🤝

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  6 місяців тому +2

      Not a lot of UA-cam content on aviation engines. I suspect people are scared of the criticism or something, I'm not sure.

    • @Kakashikush94
      @Kakashikush94 6 місяців тому +1

      I find this video and ur comment top 😂

  • @dabneyoffermein595
    @dabneyoffermein595 29 днів тому

    Lycoming, is the best damn GA Engine maker on the planet.

  • @deani2431
    @deani2431 Рік тому +10

    I have owned an IO320 Thorp for 3 years. It's an awesome plane and turns heads everywhere. You'll see 170+ mph out of it.

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому +2

      That's about what I was thinking for speeds as well. I can't wait to get it flying!

  • @thelong6505
    @thelong6505 Рік тому +2

    I haven't even watched the whole video yet (I will) but your camerawork is immaculate and choice of music is on point!!

  • @Sluf7
    @Sluf7 Рік тому +4

    Man what a score Thorps are great flying machines. Hey if ya Cam is and crank only issue be just WOW. I mean 90% is fine engine wise heres rooting for ya on the Crank. Keep at it carry on. Also love the Tailwind a real sleepercof a Flying machine.

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому

      Yeah the rest of the engine is in good shape, unfortunately crankshafts are scarce at the moment. I'll figure something out though. Thanks for stopping by!

  • @arrow7212
    @arrow7212 Рік тому +4

    Ugg... hope that crank turns out ok. crossing my fingers.

  • @apfelsnutz
    @apfelsnutz Рік тому

    Thanks for that. I've got one in my Darter 100 2400hrs.. It's not run in 8 yrs, in a desert climate, so it's borescope time for the cam which is the determining factor in these engines.

  • @BumbleBee55R
    @BumbleBee55R Рік тому

    I'm in the same process, at the same stage as you are. My crank is good as my plane is flown regularly. I had a visible crack in the engine case. Pulled the engine and the cam did not pass inspection. Used the opportunity to purchase the upgraded cam and have the accessory case upgrade done to accept the one piece cam shaft. Re-assembly should start mid January. I also have chromed cylinders.

  • @jimflammer9370
    @jimflammer9370 9 місяців тому

    Great video, thanks for posting it.

  • @jhaedtler
    @jhaedtler Рік тому +1

    I have always wished that people would store a Lycoming. engine upside down with a couple quarts of oil in it! It would save a couple of cams! Thanks for the videos!

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому +4

      Yeah unfortunately it's usually not planned to be stored for long term and then life gets in their way. The cam is a little easier to swallow than the crankshaft though!

    • @jhaedtler
      @jhaedtler Рік тому +3

      @@MotoFlightGuy I feel your pain!

  • @JK-rv9tp
    @JK-rv9tp 8 місяців тому

    Those engines will run until the cam lobes are down to eccentrics, where you'll finally start to get misfires. I have an O-320 cam in my garage I use as a paper towel holder. It came out of a Citabria in 1979 due to misfires. No oil on it. 40 yrs in my garage, or basement through several moves. It has a bit of fine rust pitting if you look close, in some spots, but is otherwise not that bad considering, except for the lobe worn down. I think the severe pitting you have there is mostly due to acids in the oil. I have an O-290 in my PL2, and if it ever comes out, like if I start getting major metal in the filter, I'm going to have the case cylinder holes bored to a 1/8" radius incr and the case will accept O320 narrow deck jugs. O-290 cylinder parts are impossible to find.

  • @user-nx6qr1mt6f
    @user-nx6qr1mt6f 3 місяці тому

    I think Lycoming says to overhaul their engines every 12 years, whether sitting on a shelf or being used.
    But, if you’re part 91, you don’t have to follow that recommendation.
    Btw, the crankshaft nose plug is to hold oil pressure into the crank for fixed pitch props, or removed for constant speed props to send oil pressure to operate the prop governor/pitch change mechanism..
    A&P/IA

    • @user-nx6qr1mt6f
      @user-nx6qr1mt6f 3 місяці тому

      Great vid!
      The case has “bearing saddles”, for the mains, not journals…

  • @TheRoguelement
    @TheRoguelement 3 місяці тому

    I'm going to take a swing at it and tell you engine is vital the quality of the engine oil is paramount ...

  • @dbk24601
    @dbk24601 Рік тому

    Hey, I know I am a bit late to the party but if you'd like the dimensional specs or that engine I might be able to hook you up. Thank you by the way for bringing those ad's to my attention. I'm currently overhauling an o-320-e2g and I must've overlooked those.

  • @geterpleyer
    @geterpleyer Рік тому +1

    I need to come hang out when your at the hangar sometime.

  • @thepurpleufo
    @thepurpleufo Рік тому

    Nice video...thank you.

  • @jhaedtler
    @jhaedtler Рік тому +1

    Save you old oil pump gears, They are perfect for a home made engine pre oiler. This saves your engine life. Most of your pipe line patrol planes use aftermarket pre oilers!

    • @kczbluesman
      @kczbluesman Рік тому

      Any idea as to what other parts are used in the homemade engine pre oiler?

  • @anandshukla8782
    @anandshukla8782 Рік тому

    Great thanks

  • @JFirn86Q
    @JFirn86Q 3 місяці тому

    Amazing how expensive these parts are for very old low technology engine parts.

  • @goldrivers598
    @goldrivers598 8 місяців тому

    What kind of cleaning do you do on these cases? Thanks for sharing, very interesting video.

  • @soconnoriv
    @soconnoriv Рік тому

    I’ve come to realize that any lycoming with that blue paint is of the problem era for all of those corrosion issues

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому

      I think they still have corrosion issues even modern ones don't they?

  • @davejones542
    @davejones542 Рік тому

    these engines seem so complex (lots of precise machines parts) but also primitive. yet we trust our lives to these machines. when we gonna get 3d printed replacements

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому

      You aren't wrong. They are derived from 1940s technology. The tolerances are fairly loose and the design is very basic. They have proven themselves, however the longevity between overhauls is pitifully low compared to anything of modern design

  • @alanaspurling6469
    @alanaspurling6469 Рік тому

    Sorry about the late response. There’s an STC to install 160hp pistons in the 150hp jugs. But that being said as an experimental you can install any compression pistons you desire…

    • @kczbluesman
      @kczbluesman Рік тому +1

      Any idea of the STC number?

    • @alanaspurling6469
      @alanaspurling6469 Рік тому +1

      @@kczbluesman STC SE367CH 288E is what was on the tag

    • @kczbluesman
      @kczbluesman Рік тому +1

      @@alanaspurling6469 Much appreciated.

    • @alanaspurling6469
      @alanaspurling6469 Рік тому

      @@kczbluesman the STC is for a Piper Cherokee PA-28/140 as offered by Penn Yan Aero, which was the source of this particular engine.

  • @robjohnson8522
    @robjohnson8522 8 місяців тому

    Wow! @4:59 they sure left the inside of that crank rough cut! Heck those tooling marks would cause cracking and fatique corrosian or no. Is such a poor finish normal for the inside of a crank?

  • @gabrielkwaku253
    @gabrielkwaku253 Рік тому

    You are powerful 🙏👍♥️♥️👊💪

  • @RamblerMan68
    @RamblerMan68 Рік тому

    Fingers crossed on the crank Daddio 🤞🙏. Hope it's machinable to spec. What's a new or serviceable 320 crank going for now? 😳

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому +1

      It's hard to say since they are so hard to find. Machine shops don't have them, and when you send a used one to them for inspection they are months backed up. Just sucks all around

    • @RamblerMan68
      @RamblerMan68 Рік тому

      Soooo, I guess the Tailwind sale is on hold? 🤔

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому +1

      No it's still for sale 😁

    • @BumbleBee55R
      @BumbleBee55R Рік тому

      @@MotoFlightGuy Yup, Divco has had my Engine case and cam since early June. Just today was notified with the tracking number for shipment.

  • @jjjwin1
    @jjjwin1 Рік тому +1

    I want a ride !

  • @terryterry1655
    @terryterry1655 Рік тому

    is there any engine overhaul in USA that will allow the owner of engine to overhaul onsite and get certificate thereafter so can open an overhaul centre backk home..me from KL,Malaysia.Thx. mine is d3g 161hp Lycoming

  • @WalterBarber-fg6jq
    @WalterBarber-fg6jq 4 місяці тому

    What is the certification process involved in working on one of these airplane engines?

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  4 місяці тому

      If it's for an experimental aircraft none. If it's going in a certified aircraft, you need to be an A&P

  • @jorgemartinez566
    @jorgemartinez566 Рік тому

    Question, I need to talk to someone about aircraft engines, I'm building an experimental airplane, and I have a ton of questions about the engine I can use. Also how much of the work I can do my self etc. Do you guys have any recommendations?

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому +1

      If you are in the United States then you should join EAA. They have all kinds of information for home builders.

    • @dabneyoffermein595
      @dabneyoffermein595 29 днів тому

      if it's experimental, you do not need a medical certificate, correct?

  • @msstaceystento
    @msstaceystento 5 місяців тому

    Is this the 140HP configuration or 160?

  • @wesleywilkinson4355
    @wesleywilkinson4355 Рік тому

    All those years in the barn the starter bracket was safety wired backwards 🤦🏻‍♂

  • @TXMURF
    @TXMURF 11 місяців тому +1

    I think that is a serious mistake not having the cases worked!

  • @user-nd8dc5nf6o
    @user-nd8dc5nf6o 4 місяці тому

    Would like to know how to change a 150hp to a 160hp.

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  4 місяці тому

      I believe it's different pistons which have an offset wrist pin hole, so it increases compression, don't quote me on that though. Then, you must have the heavier front crankshaft main bearing to support the extra HP.

  • @gregdowd939
    @gregdowd939 10 місяців тому

    Not an airplane mechanic...I stick with engines that stay on the ground ...one question..wat do u mean by AD?

    • @malakov5
      @malakov5 8 місяців тому

      Airworthiness Directives (ADs) are legally enforceable regulations issued by the FAA in accordance with 14 CFR part 39 to correct an unsafe condition in a product. Part 39 defines a product as an aircraft, engine, propeller, or appliance.

  • @jamesharkness1058
    @jamesharkness1058 6 місяців тому

    Was your crank serviceable?

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  6 місяців тому

      Yes it was! They were able to turn it, and plate the prop flange

    • @jamesharkness1058
      @jamesharkness1058 6 місяців тому

      @@MotoFlightGuy nice!

    • @dabneyoffermein595
      @dabneyoffermein595 29 днів тому

      @@MotoFlightGuy WHOA!!!!!!!!! What a relief !!!!!! Care to say what it was going to cost you for a new one?

  • @oneninerniner3427
    @oneninerniner3427 Рік тому +1

    So you must be an A&P? Or else you have experience on legacy engines.

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому +1

      Not an A&P. I just have been messing with engines since high school. Rebuilt a lot of motorcycle engines back in my younger days, and these aircraft engines are easier to do than those. There's not a lot going on inside of these old Lycomings and continentals

    • @oneninerniner3427
      @oneninerniner3427 Рік тому

      that's great! I can tell you know your way around machines. Not many people do anymore! My Dad had an FBO, so I've always been interested. I started my flight training long ago but I never finished my private ticket, wish now that I had. I am semiretired mechanic with a small shop and basically do it all myself. I do automotive, auto trans, and some motorcycle & small engine stuff. Can I hire you? Ha ha. Also, I was always intrigued with the Tailwinds, a feller that flys freight out of our regional airport has one. Fly safe man

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому

      @@oneninerniner3427 nice! You should definitely finish your PPL! Best thing I ever did!

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 Рік тому

    What specific model of 0320 is it?

    • @MotoFlightGuy
      @MotoFlightGuy  Рік тому

      E2C

    • @jergixrguy
      @jergixrguy Рік тому

      @@MotoFlightGuy Hope your rebuild goes well! Appreciate the well done video. Iam getting ready to start reassembly on my O320-A2B. My lastest snag was the connecting rod Service Instruction 1183; my rods needed to have the countersink increased to accept the newer style connecting rod bolts. Fingers crossed we are both back in the sky soon. My Lyc is going back in our RV6

  • @johnbowen2963
    @johnbowen2963 3 місяці тому

    kill the bloody music